Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
I made several changes to GAMEd, so those that downloaded it, please, update your GIT repository and compile it again to ensure that you have all the changes. Thanks. El 08/11/12 22:47, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff escribió: FYI, there's also AutoNiceD that does roughly the same thing, but it's a little more advanced. Should work too. Does GAMEd require root permissions to renice things? 2012/11/9 Sergio Costas rasters...@gmail.com Hi all: I created a little daemon to set priorities. It's called GAMEd. You can download and install it just opening a terminal and typing: git clone https:/**/github.**com/rastersoft/**gamed.githttps://github.com/rastersoft/gamed.git cd gamed make sudo make install Now, to set the priority, just type renice_gamed -20 This will set the priority of both Xorg and Gala to -20 Now, each time you enter your session, GAMEd will automatically set the priority to that value. If you change it again, the new value will be remembered between sessions. You can also edit /etc/gamed.conf and add more executables to the list (like unity or gnome-shell), allowing to use it with other desktops. Of course, this is just a temporary hack, until ulatencyd gets fixed. One last note: it seems that the effect in games needs some seconds before working, so after setting the priority, wait some seconds before launching the game. Enjoy! El 05/11/12 00:51, Dane Henson escribió: I have the same issue. I attempted to install Limbo (yes, it's in a wine wrapper) on my MacBook with Intel graphics. The fps is terrible, the keystrokes are laggy. Not sure what the issue is, just thought I'd mention that it affected me too. On Nov 4, 2012 5:40 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804)ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
Hi all: I created a little daemon to set priorities. It's called GAMEd. You can download and install it just opening a terminal and typing: git clone https://github.com/rastersoft/gamed.git https://github.com/rastersoft/gamed.git cd gamed make sudo make install Now, to set the priority, just type renice_gamed -20 This will set the priority of both Xorg and Gala to -20 Now, each time you enter your session, GAMEd will automatically set the priority to that value. If you change it again, the new value will be remembered between sessions. You can also edit /etc/gamed.conf and add more executables to the list (like unity or gnome-shell), allowing to use it with other desktops. Of course, this is just a temporary hack, until ulatencyd gets fixed. One last note: it seems that the effect in games needs some seconds before working, so after setting the priority, wait some seconds before launching the game. Enjoy! El 05/11/12 00:51, Dane Henson escribió: I have the same issue. I attempted to install Limbo (yes, it's in a wine wrapper) on my MacBook with Intel graphics. The fps is terrible, the keystrokes are laggy. Not sure what the issue is, just thought I'd mention that it affected me too. On Nov 4, 2012 5:40 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
FYI, there's also AutoNiceD that does roughly the same thing, but it's a little more advanced. Should work too. Does GAMEd require root permissions to renice things? 2012/11/9 Sergio Costas rasters...@gmail.com Hi all: I created a little daemon to set priorities. It's called GAMEd. You can download and install it just opening a terminal and typing: git clone https:/**/github.**com/rastersoft/**gamed.githttps://github.com/rastersoft/gamed.git cd gamed make sudo make install Now, to set the priority, just type renice_gamed -20 This will set the priority of both Xorg and Gala to -20 Now, each time you enter your session, GAMEd will automatically set the priority to that value. If you change it again, the new value will be remembered between sessions. You can also edit /etc/gamed.conf and add more executables to the list (like unity or gnome-shell), allowing to use it with other desktops. Of course, this is just a temporary hack, until ulatencyd gets fixed. One last note: it seems that the effect in games needs some seconds before working, so after setting the priority, wait some seconds before launching the game. Enjoy! El 05/11/12 00:51, Dane Henson escribió: I have the same issue. I attempted to install Limbo (yes, it's in a wine wrapper) on my MacBook with Intel graphics. The fps is terrible, the keystrokes are laggy. Not sure what the issue is, just thought I'd mention that it affected me too. On Nov 4, 2012 5:40 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804)ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
BTW: What do you know about this? DO NOT SET THIS TO -20, OR YOU WILL SEVERELY AND PERMANENTLY DAMAGE YOUR SYSTEM! Setting the priority too high causes your program to interfere with very important system tasks (like the swapper or the RAID daemons). Messing with the RAID daemons is a *VERY* bad idea! If this is true, I should add a protection in GAMEd... El 08/11/12 22:47, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff escribió: FYI, there's also AutoNiceD that does roughly the same thing, but it's a little more advanced. Should work too. Does GAMEd require root permissions to renice things? 2012/11/9 Sergio Costas rasters...@gmail.com Hi all: I created a little daemon to set priorities. It's called GAMEd. You can download and install it just opening a terminal and typing: git clone https:/**/github.**com/rastersoft/**gamed.githttps://github.com/rastersoft/gamed.git cd gamed make sudo make install Now, to set the priority, just type renice_gamed -20 This will set the priority of both Xorg and Gala to -20 Now, each time you enter your session, GAMEd will automatically set the priority to that value. If you change it again, the new value will be remembered between sessions. You can also edit /etc/gamed.conf and add more executables to the list (like unity or gnome-shell), allowing to use it with other desktops. Of course, this is just a temporary hack, until ulatencyd gets fixed. One last note: it seems that the effect in games needs some seconds before working, so after setting the priority, wait some seconds before launching the game. Enjoy! El 05/11/12 00:51, Dane Henson escribió: I have the same issue. I attempted to install Limbo (yes, it's in a wine wrapper) on my MacBook with Intel graphics. The fps is terrible, the keystrokes are laggy. Not sure what the issue is, just thought I'd mention that it affected me too. On Nov 4, 2012 5:40 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804)ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
I've been checking AutoNiceD, and it says that it does exactly the opposite: put lower priority to several process. Also, AutoNiceD keeps running periodically, while GAMEd runs only when launching the window manager, or when manually setting the priority. The rest of the time it is sleeping. El 08/11/12 22:47, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff escribió: FYI, there's also AutoNiceD that does roughly the same thing, but it's a little more advanced. Should work too. Does GAMEd require root permissions to renice things? 2012/11/9 Sergio Costas rasters...@gmail.com Hi all: I created a little daemon to set priorities. It's called GAMEd. You can download and install it just opening a terminal and typing: git clone https:/**/github.**com/rastersoft/**gamed.githttps://github.com/rastersoft/gamed.git cd gamed make sudo make install Now, to set the priority, just type renice_gamed -20 This will set the priority of both Xorg and Gala to -20 Now, each time you enter your session, GAMEd will automatically set the priority to that value. If you change it again, the new value will be remembered between sessions. You can also edit /etc/gamed.conf and add more executables to the list (like unity or gnome-shell), allowing to use it with other desktops. Of course, this is just a temporary hack, until ulatencyd gets fixed. One last note: it seems that the effect in games needs some seconds before working, so after setting the priority, wait some seconds before launching the game. Enjoy! El 05/11/12 00:51, Dane Henson escribió: I have the same issue. I attempted to install Limbo (yes, it's in a wine wrapper) on my MacBook with Intel graphics. The fps is terrible, the keystrokes are laggy. Not sure what the issue is, just thought I'd mention that it affected me too. On Nov 4, 2012 5:40 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804)ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
Great! I hope https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1034099 gets fixed till Luna beta2 so we'll be able to integrate ulatencyd by default that will assign these priorities automatically. Ubuntu doesn't seem to be interested in fixing that; perhaps we should catalyze the activity by bisecting the change that caused this bug. 2012/11/5 Sergio Costas rasters...@gmail.com: Hi again: Sorry, I wanted to say about 5-7 fps, not 20. But I found the solution! I gave maximum priority (-20) to both X and Gala, and now it works like a charm. If I only give priority to Gala there's no change; if only give priority to X it has a little improvement; but giving to both makes the game run smoothly. El 05/11/12 00:40, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff escribió: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
If I remember correctly, Limbo runs inside of WINE (it's bundled with it, I think). So, I think the problem may very well lie with WINE, but I'm not sure. Sincerely, kroq-gar78 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Sergio Costas rasters...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all: I installed Limbo (an OpenGL game), and found that the animation is extremely bad: there's a big delay between keystrokes and the FPS are quite low. I changed to gnome classic desktop (without desktop effects), and it worked like a charm. I presume that this is due to the well-known composite desktop problem, where the window manager has to re-render each frame. The question is: is there a way for fixing this in Gala, like KDE and Gnome people did (AFAIK, by reparenting the full screen windows in order to make them not-composite managed)? Thanks. -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
I have the same issue. I attempted to install Limbo (yes, it's in a wine wrapper) on my MacBook with Intel graphics. The fps is terrible, the keystrokes are laggy. Not sure what the issue is, just thought I'd mention that it affected me too. On Nov 4, 2012 5:40 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
Hi Sergey: I'm not using the Catalyst driver (but yes, it's an AMD/ATI graphic card). With the Catalyst there are, in addition, glitches in the picture (like when a celluloid film jumps between frames). I'm using the free Radeon drivers. The problems whith it are two: * slow FPS: the animations are jerky, I think about 20 fps or so. I suspect this is due to the XWindows protocol, that produces a very big delay when sending the XDamage signal. * big delay between a keypress and the reaction of the sprite: again, I blame to the need of receiving the XDamage signal in the window manager and render the whole frame from the application buffer into the screen. El 05/11/12 00:40, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff escribió: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] OpenGL performance with Gala
Hi again: Sorry, I wanted to say about 5-7 fps, not 20. But I found the solution! I gave maximum priority (-20) to both X and Gala, and now it works like a charm. If I only give priority to Gala there's no change; if only give priority to X it has a little improvement; but giving to both makes the game run smoothly. El 05/11/12 00:40, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff escribió: Sergio, what GPU and driver do you have? If it's an AMD GPU with the proprietary driver, this is likely caused by the multitude of vsync bugs in catalyst, where vsync either doesn't work or causes a slideshow-like performance, e.g. on moving windows in Gala. According to http://limbogame.org/news/, Limbo runs via a WINE wrapper, and that causes even more issues with Catalyst, namely... vsync again. Unreal and Skyrim in WINE have terrible tearing under Unity2D (metacity) on my HD6770, for example. -- Nos leemos RASTER(Linux user #228804) ras...@rastersoft.com http://www.rastersoft.com -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
