Re: [Elementary-dev-community] ElementaryOS meets Productivity Suite
I am pretty sure LibreOffice does the job, at least I use it on a daily basis and I love it. There's GWoffice if you're into Google Docs (made by Tom). Right now, we have other, more important priorities, than a productivity suite. If you really want to work on one, I recommend LibreOffice, I think they're moving in the right direction. David Munchor Gomes On Feb 26, 2013 3:53 AM, Nikos Vasilakis nikos.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Great work! I fell in love with eOS from the very first contact:) I have a question though: how does elementaryOS plan on attacking the productivity suite issue (e.g., word processing, spreadsheet and presentation tools)? Are there any developers working towards a vala-based solution or are there any plans? How can we help? Thanks! NIkos -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] ElementaryOS meets Productivity Suite
Apparently Google bought and is porting QuickOffice to NaCl, which is interesting. I don't know if it'll be wrapped up as part of Google Drive or of they'll leave it as its own thing. Either way, it will run on Linux with Chromium; I wonder of there are any other efforts for running NaCl code on Linux without requiring a whole other browser. But as David was saying, we don't have the manpower for creating our own office suite at this point in time. It might be something we look into down the road, but honestly there are some pretty decent well-established solutions out there already. It seems that the LibreOffice designers like elementary, so maybe we will have some increasing design influence there down the road. Regards, Cassidy James On Feb 26, 2013 6:45 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: I am pretty sure LibreOffice does the job, at least I use it on a daily basis and I love it. There's GWoffice if you're into Google Docs (made by Tom). Right now, we have other, more important priorities, than a productivity suite. If you really want to work on one, I recommend LibreOffice, I think they're moving in the right direction. David Munchor Gomes On Feb 26, 2013 3:53 AM, Nikos Vasilakis nikos.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Great work! I fell in love with eOS from the very first contact:) I have a question though: how does elementaryOS plan on attacking the productivity suite issue (e.g., word processing, spreadsheet and presentation tools)? Are there any developers working towards a vala-based solution or are there any plans? How can we help? Thanks! NIkos -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Taking SVG screenshots is real
I made a screencast, hope it explains everything: http://youtu.be/1ibJ7iv-TCE 2013/2/23 Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com: BTW, I haven't tested it yet, Sergey. Can you tell me how the precess of the shot takes place? Do you have to execute gtk-vector-screenshot or the normal screenshots are automatically modified to use the package? Regards, Alfredo. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Taking SVG screenshots is real
Great, I see it's a separate launcher, which is nice. Thanks for the video; that's all I wanted to know. Regards, Alfredo. On 26 Feb 2013 21:08, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: I made a screencast, hope it explains everything: http://youtu.be/1ibJ7iv-TCE 2013/2/23 Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com: BTW, I haven't tested it yet, Sergey. Can you tell me how the precess of the shot takes place? Do you have to execute gtk-vector-screenshot or the normal screenshots are automatically modified to use the package? Regards, Alfredo. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Taking SVG screenshots is real
This could be really useful for screenshots where we want to focus in on a certain thing without pixelating it. ;) I've seen Google do something similar in their TV ads and it works well. On Feb 26, 2013 2:18 PM, Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com wrote: Great, I see it's a separate launcher, which is nice. Thanks for the video; that's all I wanted to know. Regards, Alfredo. On 26 Feb 2013 21:08, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff ser...@elementaryos.org wrote: I made a screencast, hope it explains everything: http://youtu.be/1ibJ7iv-TCE 2013/2/23 Alfredo Hernández aldomann.desi...@gmail.com: BTW, I haven't tested it yet, Sergey. Can you tell me how the precess of the shot takes place? Do you have to execute gtk-vector-screenshot or the normal screenshots are automatically modified to use the package? Regards, Alfredo. -- Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] ElementaryOS meets Productivity Suite
Thanks a bunch guys, I fully agree (and use LibreOffice mysleft). I was wondring though, could someone point to the priority list for elementary? If someone was to spend time, where would you prefer this time being spent? Thanks! Nikos On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.org wrote: Apparently Google bought and is porting QuickOffice to NaCl, which is interesting. I don't know if it'll be wrapped up as part of Google Drive or of they'll leave it as its own thing. Either way, it will run on Linux with Chromium; I wonder of there are any other efforts for running NaCl code on Linux without requiring a whole other browser. But as David was saying, we don't have the manpower for creating our own office suite at this point in time. It might be something we look into down the road, but honestly there are some pretty decent well-established solutions out there already. It seems that the LibreOffice designers like elementary, so maybe we will have some increasing design influence there down the road. Regards, Cassidy James On Feb 26, 2013 6:45 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: I am pretty sure LibreOffice does the job, at least I use it on a daily basis and I love it. There's GWoffice if you're into Google Docs (made by Tom). Right now, we have other, more important priorities, than a productivity suite. If you really want to work on one, I recommend LibreOffice, I think they're moving in the right direction. David Munchor Gomes On Feb 26, 2013 3:53 AM, Nikos Vasilakis nikos.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Great work! I fell in love with eOS from the very first contact:) I have a question though: how does elementaryOS plan on attacking the productivity suite issue (e.g., word processing, spreadsheet and presentation tools)? Are there any developers working towards a vala-based solution or are there any plans? How can we help? Thanks! NIkos -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Cassidy James cass...@elementaryos.org wrote: Apparently Google bought and is porting QuickOffice to NaCl, which is interesting. I don't know if it'll be wrapped up as part of Google Drive or of they'll leave it as its own thing. Either way, it will run on Linux with Chromium; I wonder of there are any other efforts for running NaCl code on Linux without requiring a whole other browser. But as David was saying, we don't have the manpower for creating our own office suite at this point in time. It might be something we look into down the road, but honestly there are some pretty decent well-established solutions out there already. It seems that the LibreOffice designers like elementary, so maybe we will have some increasing design influence there down the road. Regards, Cassidy James On Feb 26, 2013 6:45 AM, David Gomes da...@elementaryos.org wrote: I am pretty sure LibreOffice does the job, at least I use it on a daily basis and I love it. There's GWoffice if you're into Google Docs (made by Tom). Right now, we have other, more important priorities, than a productivity suite. If you really want to work on one, I recommend LibreOffice, I think they're moving in the right direction. David Munchor Gomes On Feb 26, 2013 3:53 AM, Nikos Vasilakis nikos.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Great work! I fell in love with eOS from the very first contact:) I have a question though: how does elementaryOS plan on attacking the productivity suite issue (e.g., word processing, spreadsheet and presentation tools)? Are there any developers working towards a vala-based solution or are there any plans? How can we help? Thanks! NIkos -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Granite and Geary
Hi Jim, Sorry for the late response! In regard to your question, I would like to start working on the welcome screen because it's easier to implement and doesn't require adding many new abstractions. I'd also work on Granite to add the features needed by Geary, as I had already mentioned in the respective issue/ticket. Adding code to have Geary use Granite's Source List (A.K.A. sidebar) implies a lot of work, since the APIs are very different. You can have a look at Granite's API here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5559185/. Being the developer who implemented Granite's Source List, I know how to make Geary's sidebar have an elementary-like look on top of your current API, and I'm already familiar with Geary/Shotwell's Sidebar implementation, but I doubt this is the approach you want elementary to take here. Before jumping into coding I would like to have a technical discussion regarding the design implications of these changes in order to gather all your opinions and suggestions. I know that you are very busy, and I don't want to take a lot of time away from you. So, is there any specific time when I can meet you up, introduce myself, and discuss this? Have a nice day and thank you for your time, Victor. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Jim Nelson j...@yorba.org wrote: Hi Victor, No one else has come forward, so it looks like you have the field! I don't think more than 2 days a week are necessary here. Mostly it's about maintaining a few slight changes to the code, not a big overhaul. Let's start by discussing what Granite changes you (or the Elementary team) want to see in Geary. We can prioritize those and go from there. These are the outstanding Granite tickets in our Redmine tracker: About Box - http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6089 Welcome Screen - http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6090 DecoratedWindow for composer - http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/6112 I'm sure there's more, this is just a starting list. Anyone want to pitch in more ideas? -- Jim On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Victor victoredua...@gmail.com wrote: Nice suggestions Jim. This champion will need to check in from time to time, either adding additional Granite support or patching Geary to work with changes to the Granite API I would not like to assume this responsibility alone, but I'd definitely like to contribute; count on me for this. I am only available two days per week though: Wednesday and Thursday. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Hakan Erduman ha...@erduman.de wrote: Hello Jim, First, I'm not involved in the development of granite, midori or any elementary project. As a bystander and developer I wonder why you did not try to reap the experiences of the midori project first. Midori pre-dates elementary and yet there is full integration - I wonder how they achieved it and so should you, I think. Secondly, as a fellow developer of a small and notoriously underpowered free software project, I used to track every ubuntu release and found that a six month cycle is often too narrow. Tracking the LTS releases only is a very sound decision of the elementary project, I think. Please consider the decision. Just my $0.02, no offence meant. Regards, Hakan Jim Nelson schrieb am 06.02.2013 22:16: Hello all, I'm Jim Nelson, executive director of Yorba and technical lead of Geary. I've been communicating a little bit with Daniel about the future of Geary. He asked I share my thoughts with all of you. First of all, I'm excited that Geary is the default mail app for Elementary, the first distro to adopt, which is always an honor. It also represents the kind of risk-taking that smaller distros will take, and I appreciate that. However, as much as Yorba values what Elementary is bringing to the open desktop, we can't target Geary solely for it. More specifically, I'm uncomfortable targeting Geary for Granite. The Granite API seems to be fluid right now. Yorba's policy for all our apps is to build on the current release of our dependencies, as well as the prior release, in the GNOME six-month cycle. In practice, this means depending on the libraries in the current release of Ubuntu and the prior one. For example, right now Geary builds on Precise and Quantal. (It may build on older versions, but we don't guarantee that.) At some point in this cycle we'll move to Raring. Geary *may* build on Precise indefinitely, but if we need something in a library that wasn't available in Precise, then so be it. This model means that our users don't have to be using the absolute latest-and-greatest, but also means we can take advantage of more-or-less the newest stuff. It also means we don't fill our code base with conditionally-compiled patches to support newer library features while maintaining support for older ones. Another policy Yorba adheres to is that we want trunk (master) to build, always. This is quite important to me. So here's our conundrum: Geary today has a
