[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2017-07-02 Thread 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss
On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:06:58 PM UTC+1, Christopher Roe wrote:
>
> Just in case this conversation is still active .. and following on from 
> OverMind's suggestion that the Dialog interface be redrawn to match the 
> current need for user input via a dialog ... If I have 2 buttons visible on 
> the screen at the same time, how can I tell which button was pressed when 
> rendering the dialog?  There does not seem to be any opportunity to update 
> the model... or is there?  It feels like I should open the dialog via 
> something like  a command on the back of handling a message in update.  
>

Buttons are distinguished by passing different values for the Index 
parameter to Button.render:

http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/debois/elm-mdl/8.1.0/Material-Button#render

Then to create a Cmd that is triggered when the button is clicked, use 
Button.onClick, with some Msg type that you have created to receive these 
events.

For multiple dialogs, you'd use different Index parameters and .onClick 
events. Hope that makes sense?

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2017-07-01 Thread Christopher Roe
Just in case this conversation is still active .. and following on from 
OverMind's suggestion that the Dialog interface be redrawn to match the 
current need for user input via a dialog ... If I have 2 buttons visible on 
the screen at the same time, how can I tell which button was pressed when 
rendering the dialog?  There does not seem to be any opportunity to update 
the model... or is there?  It feels like I should open the dialog via 
something like  a command on the back of handling a message in update.  


On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:43:24 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>
> I noticed this in the package docs:
>
>- The elm-mdl library currently support only one dialog pr. 
>application. Installing more than one dialog will result in a random one 
>showing.
>
> http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/debois/elm-mdl/7.6.0/Material-Dialog
>
> Is this still true? Is there a workaround, I am planning on using quite a 
> few dialogs...
>

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 8:24:01 PM UTC+1, OvermindDL1 wrote:
>
> > I also notice in the Elm demo that the dialog gets hoisted out of the 
> Dialog tab and placed at the top of the page, something to do with the 
> limitations of the dialog polyfill. 
>
> Polyfill stuff yep, dialogs need to be 'global'.  HTML5 dialogs are odd, 
> and would be less odd if browsers followed the spec, but eh...
>

Not sure it really needs to be 'global' at the top of the page. The 
limitations also say you can set "position: fixed" on it:

https://github.com/GoogleChrome/dialog-polyfill#limitations

But yeah, thanks for your input, just changing the contents of the one 
dialog sounds like what I should try next.

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread OvermindDL1
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 12:47:33 PM UTC-6, Rupert Smith wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:44:39 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:50:30 PM UTC+1, OvermindDL1 wrote:
>>>
>>> It is because you should 'switch' the interface within your dialog to be 
>>> whatever it needs to be at the time.  It is in my opinion a design 
>>> consideration to prevent multiple dialogs from even being capable of 
>>> appearing at the same time, which often breaks sites that do that.
>>>
>>> But yeah, just inside the dialog just draw whatever type of interface is 
>>> appropriate at the time.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, could try that. I suspect that it was not a deliberate design choice 
>> though - just something awkward about implementing dialogs?
>>
>
> Perhaps I am wrong about that: 
>
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19051408/jquery-dialog-opening-multiple-dialogs
>  
>

Unrelated, that is pure class based not element based.  :-)

`mdl` (and thus `elm-mdl`) uses real html5 dialog: 
 http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_dialog.asp

However many browsers are crappy enough to not support html5 that well yet, 
so there is a polyfill you can add (which you probably should), and the 
polyfill has some limitations: 
 https://github.com/GoogleChrome/dialog-polyfill#limitations

And elm-mdl would have to connect a dialog with its id somehow, which is 
'string'y and easy to break (much more easy to break with more than one elm 
app too, hard problem to solve), however the elm style already has the 
concept of 'views' of a single thing that mutate, so they went the realm of 
that you mutate the dialog to contain whatever it should contain.  :-)

> I also notice in the Elm demo that the dialog gets hoisted out of the 
Dialog tab and placed at the top of the page, something to do with the 
limitations of the dialog polyfill. 

Polyfill stuff yep, dialogs need to be 'global'.  HTML5 dialogs are odd, 
and would be less odd if browsers followed the spec, but eh...

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss


On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 7:44:39 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:50:30 PM UTC+1, OvermindDL1 wrote:
>>
>> It is because you should 'switch' the interface within your dialog to be 
>> whatever it needs to be at the time.  It is in my opinion a design 
>> consideration to prevent multiple dialogs from even being capable of 
>> appearing at the same time, which often breaks sites that do that.
>>
>> But yeah, just inside the dialog just draw whatever type of interface is 
>> appropriate at the time.
>>
>
> Ok, could try that. I suspect that it was not a deliberate design choice 
> though - just something awkward about implementing dialogs?
>

Perhaps I am wrong about that: 

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19051408/jquery-dialog-opening-multiple-dialogs
 

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:50:30 PM UTC+1, OvermindDL1 wrote:
>
> It is because you should 'switch' the interface within your dialog to be 
> whatever it needs to be at the time.  It is in my opinion a design 
> consideration to prevent multiple dialogs from even being capable of 
> appearing at the same time, which often breaks sites that do that.
>
> But yeah, just inside the dialog just draw whatever type of interface is 
> appropriate at the time.
>

Ok, could try that. I suspect that it was not a deliberate design choice 
though - just something awkward about implementing dialogs?

I also notice in the Elm demo that the dialog gets hoisted out of the 
Dialog tab and placed at the top of the page, something to do with the 
limitations of the dialog polyfill. 

So instead I just recode that as hoisting out some fragment of the 
interface and placing that within this top-of-the-page dialog instead? 

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 6:07:49 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:59:59 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:43:24 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed this in the package docs:
>>>
>>>- The elm-mdl library currently support only one dialog pr. 
>>>application. Installing more than one dialog will result in a random one 
>>>showing.
>>>
>>> http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/debois/elm-mdl/7.6.0/Material-Dialog
>>>
>>> Is this still true? Is there a workaround, I am planning on using quite 
>>> a few dialogs...
>>>
>>
>> Actually, in this case I just wanted a delete / are you sure ? type of 
>> interaction. A better way might be to add a div below the delete control 
>> that shows something like "delete 5 items are you sure ? confirm" where the 
>> confirm is a button, but to just make that part of the page and not a modal 
>> dialog. Or just make the  "delete" button change to "are you sure?" but 
>> that runs the risk of an accidental double click.
>>
>> Anyway, it would still be nice to have >1 dialog in an application. 
>>
>
> I suppose the question is, is this some inherent limit because of the way 
> Elm works? or is it just because something was hacked together for dialogs 
> that is not really complete yet?
>
> I notice the way to open a dialog is:
>
> Dialog.openOn "click"
>
> I'd expected to find something more like
>
> Button.onClick DialogMsg dialog1
>
> to create a Msg for opening the dialog and then in the 'update' function 
> to respond to that by opening the particular dialog that was selected, 
> something like this
>
> DialogMsg ->
>Dialog.open dialog
>

Or perhaps it would be better if Dialog had properties for 'open' and 
'closed' and they could be chosen appropriately from the model when 
rendering the view:

dialog
 [ if model.showDialog then Dialog.open else Dialog.close ]
 [ ... ]

?

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread OvermindDL1
It is because you should 'switch' the interface within your dialog to be 
whatever it needs to be at the time.  It is in my opinion a design 
consideration to prevent multiple dialogs from even being capable of 
appearing at the same time, which often breaks sites that do that.

But yeah, just inside the dialog just draw whatever type of interface is 
appropriate at the time.


On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 11:07:49 AM UTC-6, Rupert Smith wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:59:59 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:43:24 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed this in the package docs:
>>>
>>>- The elm-mdl library currently support only one dialog pr. 
>>>application. Installing more than one dialog will result in a random one 
>>>showing.
>>>
>>> http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/debois/elm-mdl/7.6.0/Material-Dialog
>>>
>>> Is this still true? Is there a workaround, I am planning on using quite 
>>> a few dialogs...
>>>
>>
>> Actually, in this case I just wanted a delete / are you sure ? type of 
>> interaction. A better way might be to add a div below the delete control 
>> that shows something like "delete 5 items are you sure ? confirm" where the 
>> confirm is a button, but to just make that part of the page and not a modal 
>> dialog. Or just make the  "delete" button change to "are you sure?" but 
>> that runs the risk of an accidental double click.
>>
>> Anyway, it would still be nice to have >1 dialog in an application. 
>>
>
> I suppose the question is, is this some inherent limit because of the way 
> Elm works? or is it just because something was hacked together for dialogs 
> that is not really complete yet?
>
> I notice the way to open a dialog is:
>
> Dialog.openOn "click"
>
> I'd expected to find something more like
>
> Button.onClick DialogMsg dialog1
>
> to create a Msg for opening the dialog and then in the 'update' function 
> to respond to that by opening the particular dialog that was selected, 
> something like this
>
> DialogMsg ->
>Dialog.open dialog
>

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:59:59 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>
> On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:43:24 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>>
>> I noticed this in the package docs:
>>
>>- The elm-mdl library currently support only one dialog pr. 
>>application. Installing more than one dialog will result in a random one 
>>showing.
>>
>> http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/debois/elm-mdl/7.6.0/Material-Dialog
>>
>> Is this still true? Is there a workaround, I am planning on using quite a 
>> few dialogs...
>>
>
> Actually, in this case I just wanted a delete / are you sure ? type of 
> interaction. A better way might be to add a div below the delete control 
> that shows something like "delete 5 items are you sure ? confirm" where the 
> confirm is a button, but to just make that part of the page and not a modal 
> dialog. Or just make the  "delete" button change to "are you sure?" but 
> that runs the risk of an accidental double click.
>
> Anyway, it would still be nice to have >1 dialog in an application. 
>

I suppose the question is, is this some inherent limit because of the way 
Elm works? or is it just because something was hacked together for dialogs 
that is not really complete yet?

I notice the way to open a dialog is:

Dialog.openOn "click"

I'd expected to find something more like

Button.onClick DialogMsg dialog1

to create a Msg for opening the dialog and then in the 'update' function to 
respond to that by opening the particular dialog that was selected, 
something like this

DialogMsg ->
   Dialog.open dialog

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[elm-discuss] Re: elm-mdl only one dialog per application?

2016-09-08 Thread 'Rupert Smith' via Elm Discuss
On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 4:43:24 PM UTC+1, Rupert Smith wrote:
>
> I noticed this in the package docs:
>
>- The elm-mdl library currently support only one dialog pr. 
>application. Installing more than one dialog will result in a random one 
>showing.
>
> http://package.elm-lang.org/packages/debois/elm-mdl/7.6.0/Material-Dialog
>
> Is this still true? Is there a workaround, I am planning on using quite a 
> few dialogs...
>

Actually, in this case I just wanted a delete / are you sure ? type of 
interaction. A better way might be to add a div below the delete control 
that shows something like "delete 5 items are you sure ? confirm" where the 
confirm is a button, but to just make that part of the page and not a modal 
dialog. Or just make the  "delete" button change to "are you sure?" but 
that runs the risk of an accidental double click.

Anyway, it would still be nice to have >1 dialog in an application. 

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