Re: [Orgmode] Re: Linux Journal
On Jan 20, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Leo wrote: On 2007-11-08 17:05 +, Dale Smith wrote: Great. Any chance that people in this list could read it *somewhere*, even if not Linux Journal subscribers? I'm not sure. There is this link, but you need to be a registered print or digital subscriber: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9116 -Dale This is now open to public. Shall we include it in orgmode.org? There is now a link to this article on the tutorials page. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Small documentation change regarding Agenda View
Hi, There is, I believe, a small mistake in the documentation for org-mode v5.19 (although it's been there since the change was made to the code). PDF Manual page 69, section 10.5, Agenda Views PDF Reference Card (2/2), Agenda Views, Change display Both list the toggle time grid key as 'g', whereas it's now 'G'. -- Chris Randle ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Documentation request
On Jan 19, 2008 10:44 PM, Sven Bretfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all Org mode is powerful. This well-known, almost trivial, statement contains a problematic dimension that is so far not solved in neither the documentation nor in the various howtos all over the web: How do newbies learn to make optimal use of all it's power? Hear Hear Sven! I too must confess to increasing depression at the fact that -- in my little world -- the imminent marriage of GTD with org is far from consummated. Two months back I told my friends Give me 2 days of 'leave-me-alone' and I'll grok this org-thing and soon have my life in order. 2 months on and I am yet to figure out how to match the org notion of agenda with the corresponding GTD lists. Not yet figured out how to use remember... Just 2 examples... Much else that has me at sea... I read quite a few descriptions of how to use org mode for GTD, day-planning, even LaTeX-writing. But when reading this list I have the impression that many members use org mode in a much more creative way than I can imagine from reading what is to be found on the web. I'm sure that I don't use the possibilities of org mode in an optimal way, and that my concept of ordering data and using features is not the best suitable for me. The major problem is as follows: - Even if one knows what features are available in org-mode, it's hard to imagine what fine things you can actually do with them and how they could be used to complement each other in order to build up a meaningful overall concept. This may be so Sven but I see the problem as more basic: I never learnt how to be organized I do not know the intricacies of orgmode The use of org for organizing (a la GTD or anything else) is clearly a second order problem In other words, it's a problem of imagination. This might be *my* problem, but yet I believe that many users will have this same difficulty, especially the new ones. John Wiegley's and Charles Cave's howtos are fine and most instructive in this respect, but I have different needs. I need more of these suggestions in order to pick out ideas for my own style. On the org mode homepage there are several descriptions of setups (Lisp code), but AFAIK only these two explanations of concepts. We had many postings that gave a glimpse on some concepts, but this is piecemeal. What I would really like to see -- and now I come to my suggestion -- are some snapshots of org files by other users. What features are they using and what for? What is the underlying concept of their organization structure? What I need is the: Aah, you are doing it that way ... Of course this would be useful. Also would be useful to see the lisp setups, makefiles/shell scripts people are using showing how remember, diary, bbdb and much else hang together How do you think about making a space on the tutorial page of the org mode homepage where people can upload example org-files, maybe together with a short description of their concepts? Of course these files have to be prepared in order to disguise their personal tasks and dates, which are (of course) of no concern to the public, but they should have to be recognizable as snapshots of a work-in-progress (project A, project B isn't very instructive, I think. Writing chapter 4 of my dissertation thesis would be much more informative). I think this could be a valuable source for ideas how to optimize the use of org mode, and it could give newbies (as well as experts) a major clue to orientate themselves in the world of org mode. I hope this request is not too silly. Of course, I would be willing to become the first person to submit a file, although I believe that there is not much to be learned from it. Thanks for considering my request (and for reading this long message) Sven Sorry if Ive sounded grumpy. When I saw the mail talking of the need to rewrite org-mode I thought I know lisp better than many people and I may even be able to round up some ex-students of mine to chip in to this rewrite. Then I thought-- knowing Scheme is one thing whereas the intricacies of elisp something else. Each time the emacs version bumps up I find I understand it less and less So for now will have to stay as a user rather than contributor. :-( ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Small documentation change regarding Agenda View
Fixed, thanks. - Carsten On Jan 20, 2008, at 11:03 AM, Chris Randle wrote: Hi, There is, I believe, a small mistake in the documentation for org-mode v5.19 (although it's been there since the change was made to the code). PDF Manual page 69, section 10.5, Agenda Views PDF Reference Card (2/2), Agenda Views, Change display Both list the toggle time grid key as 'g', whereas it's now 'G'. -- Chris Randle ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] optimising the selection of alternatives in remember templates
Hi Rainer, I am not sure how this is supposed to work in a practical way. Are these for filling in 3 different places in a tempate, or just one? In the latter case, how about setting up a syntax company1/customer name1|company1/customer name2 | company2/ customer name4... and then just using completion to go throough from company to name? - Carsten On Jan 19, 2008, at 12:13 AM, Rainer Stengele wrote: Imagine using remember to write down a note about a telephone call. These days I have a remember template with the most possible customers company name, the most possible customer names and then subjects and the types. This adds up to a lot of alternatives in the template. For choosing the correct one I have to switch through a lot of alternatives which are uninteresting as soon as I have chosen the first alternative, here the company name. I find the remember templates are an awesome feature! They could be optimised in terms of usability if I could define the alternatives hierarchically like for example (company1 - ((customer name1|customer name2|customer name3) (project name1|project name2|project name3) (incident type1|incident type2|incident type3|))) (company2 - ((customer name4|customer name5|customer name6) (project name1|project name4|project name4) (incident type1|incident type3|incident type4|))) ... This would help speeding up the selection of the correct alternatives in a remember template depending on the selection first made while a customer is just beginnning to talk on the phone. I hope this was clear enough. Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Remember and then refile
On Jan 18, 2008 10:19 PM, Steven Lumos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and minibuffer with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously? I haven't made up my mind about org-refile yet, but I'd like to speak in defense of org-goto. In my setup, when you start typing in org-goto, it automatically enters the isearch mode that searches only headlines, which is very useful for refiling and kind of achieves what you are asking for. This requires some additional elisp code; I can repost it if somebody is interested. As for completion, both org-refile and org-goto should work with icicles but I haven't tried it extensively yet (icicles provides general-purpose extensive completion support for emacs). My main point is that I'd rather vote for making org-mode work well with otherspecialized modes (eg icicles) than for reimplementing the features. Thanks, Piotr ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Remember and then refile
On Jan 18, 2008, at 11:19 PM, Steven Lumos wrote: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jan 18, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Steven Lumos wrote: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This will be in 5.19. Thanks for the proposal!. - Carsten Hi. Have you considered somehow merging the tree selection and minibuffer with completion methods so that both are available simultaneously? Could you please be more specific? Thanks. - Carsten Maybe. :-) Currently, C-u C-c C-c in remember uses this Select a destination location for the note mode where you navigate the org tree in the usual way and then RET to select a headline. On the other hand, org-refile uses the minibuffer and you type a headline, with completion and history. So recently I've been thinking it should be possible (though only arguably desirable) to allow both of these modes to be active at once, so movement commands would navigate the tree and typing commands would append to the minibuffer. There are key conflicts that need to be worked out, but I think it could be done. For one example, TAB could do completion if there is text in the minibuffer, and tree navigation otherwise. Hmm, this sound like over-complx to me. I would use the interface that makes sense most of the time and then move by hand in the remaining cases. Or do you think tat the interface you want is dependent on the template you are using? - Carsten Steve Steve On Jan 7, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote: Hello everyone! I know Remember allows one to select where we want to file an entry with C-u C-c C-c, but now that we have org-refile (great!), it would be really nice to be able to call org-refile after the text is inserted on it's default place (mine is the Tasks tree on todo.org) Now, I couldn't find a way to insert this nicely into the code, since that is done via the remember command. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Hugo ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Remember and then refile
On 2008-01-20 14:31 +, Piotr Zielinski wrote: As for completion, both org-refile and org-goto should work with icicles but I haven't tried it extensively yet (icicles provides general-purpose extensive completion support for emacs). My main point is that I'd rather vote for making org-mode work well with otherspecialized modes (eg icicles) than for reimplementing the features. But the problem with icicles is that it might never be included in Emacs. -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. Use the best OS -- http://www.fedoraproject.org/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: BUG?: repeat items disappears in agenda
Hi Dennis, thanks for the patch. I am not sure yet if you are using the right condition though. It seems to me that extending the late-warning-period makes sens only for repeating *tasks*, where the base date keeps changing each time you mark this entry as DONE. So maybe the condition should be that it is today *and* that the item is a task marked by a TODO keyword. Or: maybe for Scheduled, we should no relate to the *nearest* match of the repeater, but to the most recent one. This way you would get over- due warnings right up to the day where the next occurrence of this item is scheduled. So you would never loose sight on the item. H. More discussion please! - Carsten On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Dennis J Lin wrote: Salutations! Please post your code, you can always do this, the copyright question only star when we decide to use it. And even then, 4 lines is very little. Sure, please see it below :-) Dennis Lin Basically, in org-agenda-get-scheduled, we call org-time-string-to-absolute passing in d1 (the day that we're trying to get agenda items for.) The problems is that if d1 is today, we will get the closest day, which may be in the future, leading to the problem. The patch that I've found was to not pass in d1 if todayp is true. I have a 4 line patch implementing this (and I probably should write another one to fix a similar problem with deadlines), but I've not signed a FSF release, so I don't know if you want me to post my code here. Now, this patch is now quite old (it was for 5.08) but it should still apply cleanly. Looking at it, it might be whitespace damaged, and there should be a similar change for the get-deadline. However, I think it gets the idea across (and seems to fix the problem for me.) Dennis Lin --- old/org.el 2007-09-05 03:16:41.0 -0500 +++ new/org.el 2007-09-09 00:50:36.0 -0500 @@ -18676,7 +18676,9 @@ (org-agenda-skip) (setq s (match-string 1) pos (1- (match-beginning 1)) - d2 (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1) d1) + d2 (if todayp + (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1)) + (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1) d1)) diff (- d2 d1)) (setq pastschedp (and todayp ( diff 0))) ;; When to show a scheduled item in the calendar: ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Remember and then refile
I use ido all day, and I find ido-completing-read much nicer/cooler than the default. If anyone wants to try, just change the sexp (completing-read ...) inside org-refile for something like: (if (fboundp 'ido-completing-read) (ido-completing-read Refile to: tbl nil t nil 'org-refile-history) (completing-read Refile to: tbl nil t nil 'org-refile-history)) ... and the good thing is that ido comes with emacs22. Cheers, Hugo On Jan 20, 2008 12:44 PM, Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-01-20 14:31 +, Piotr Zielinski wrote: As for completion, both org-refile and org-goto should work with icicles but I haven't tried it extensively yet (icicles provides general-purpose extensive completion support for emacs). My main point is that I'd rather vote for making org-mode work well with otherspecialized modes (eg icicles) than for reimplementing the features. But the problem with icicles is that it might never be included in Emacs. -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. Use the best OS -- http://www.fedoraproject.org/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org-batch-store-agenda-views - bug or functional change?
Hi, yes, there was a change in this function, some time ago. But org- batch-store-agenda-views calls `org-agenda-normalize-custom-commands' to offset this change. Maybe you have something odd in org-agenda- custom-commands? - Carsten On Jan 20, 2008, at 12:03 AM, wasyst wrote: First of all - org-mode is a great peace of software which I use everyday now. Thanks! I'm not sure if this is the place for bug reports, but I could not find other link. It might be a change in functionality, but I could not find anything relevant in the changelog or in the documentation. My custom defined agenda views stopped to export and I tracked the problem down to a change in org-batch-store-agenda-views function (after version 5.16 I believe ) in the following fragment: (setq cmd (pop cmds) thiscmdkey (car cmd) opts (nth 4 cmd) files (nth 5 cmd)) The function used to look in the 3rd and 4th element of the list for opts and files before. Changing the last two lines to opts (nth 3 cmd) files (nth 4 cmd)) fixes the problem for me. Was there a change in the parameters list? Thanks! ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: BUG?: repeat items disappears in agenda
I'm using the agenda to keep my important tasks 'in my face' so they get dealt with. This is normally the only place my repeating tasks show up. If I miss a repeating task for a few days for some reason the worst thing (for me) that can happen is it falls off the agenda for some time without being completed. In that case I lose it until it comes up again and now it's really late. It's fine if the date resets on the next repeating date if it remains undone that long but I'd really prefer the task to stay on the agenda no matter what - until it is completed (and moves to some future date). Just my two cents :) Bernt Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dennis, thanks for the patch. I am not sure yet if you are using the right condition though. It seems to me that extending the late-warning-period makes sens only for repeating *tasks*, where the base date keeps changing each time you mark this entry as DONE. So maybe the condition should be that it is today *and* that the item is a task marked by a TODO keyword. Or: maybe for Scheduled, we should no relate to the *nearest* match of the repeater, but to the most recent one. This way you would get over- due warnings right up to the day where the next occurrence of this item is scheduled. So you would never loose sight on the item. H. More discussion please! - Carsten On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Dennis J Lin wrote: Salutations! Please post your code, you can always do this, the copyright question only star when we decide to use it. And even then, 4 lines is very little. Sure, please see it below :-) Dennis Lin Basically, in org-agenda-get-scheduled, we call org-time-string-to-absolute passing in d1 (the day that we're trying to get agenda items for.) The problems is that if d1 is today, we will get the closest day, which may be in the future, leading to the problem. The patch that I've found was to not pass in d1 if todayp is true. I have a 4 line patch implementing this (and I probably should write another one to fix a similar problem with deadlines), but I've not signed a FSF release, so I don't know if you want me to post my code here. Now, this patch is now quite old (it was for 5.08) but it should still apply cleanly. Looking at it, it might be whitespace damaged, and there should be a similar change for the get-deadline. However, I think it gets the idea across (and seems to fix the problem for me.) Dennis Lin --- old/org.el 2007-09-05 03:16:41.0 -0500 +++ new/org.el 2007-09-09 00:50:36.0 -0500 @@ -18676,7 +18676,9 @@ (org-agenda-skip) (setq s (match-string 1) pos (1- (match-beginning 1)) - d2 (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1) d1) + d2 (if todayp + (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1)) + (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1) d1)) diff (- d2 d1)) (setq pastschedp (and todayp ( diff 0))) ;; When to show a scheduled item in the calendar: ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] [PATCH] Fix typo
conveiently - conveniently
---
org.texi |2 +-
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/org.texi b/org.texi
index 3583009..2734e6f 100644
--- a/org.texi
+++ b/org.texi
@@ -3409,7 +3409,7 @@ application of properties, imagine keeping track of one's
music CD's,
where properties could be things such as the album artist, date of
release, number of tracks, and so on.
-Properties can be conveiently edited and viewed in column view
+Properties can be conveniently edited and viewed in column view
(@pxref{Column view}).
Properties are like tags, but with a value. For example, in a file
--
1.5.4.rc3.24.gb53139
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: BUG?: repeat items disappears in agenda
Salutations! Hi Dennis, thanks for the patch. I am not sure yet if you are using the right condition though. It seems to me that extending the late-warning-period makes sens only for repeating *tasks*, where the base date keeps changing each time you mark this entry as DONE. So maybe the condition should be that it is today *and* that the item is a task marked by a TODO keyword. Hmm, that may be -- every entry that has a date is a TODO for me. I would think that a non-todo entry (repeating or not) should only occur on the day(s) where it's scheduled, since there is no way to mark it done and get it off of today's agenda. Or: maybe for Scheduled, we should no relate to the *nearest* match of the repeater, but to the most recent one. This way you would get over-due warnings right up to the day where the next occurrence of this item is scheduled. So you would never loose sight on the item. However, if we do this, we lose information on *how* overdue a particular item is. I tend to keep things on the agenda and let the large numbers shame me into getting things done... Dennis Lin ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] BUG? starting org-agenda-list from .emacs
Carsten, I live in the agenda view. I'm always wanting to look at that as the first thing I do when I start Emacs. If I add (org-agenda-list) as the last thing in my .emacs I get an error when I try to switch to day view the very first time. Am I missing some other setup or is this a bug? If I don't call org-agenda-list from .emacs and display the agenda normally via C-a a a then d it works fine every time so I think some initial setup is missing when going straight to org-agenda-list at startup. Here's the error I get: , | org-agenda-check-type: Not allowed in nil-type agenda buffers ` The second time I hit 'd' it works fine. , | Rebuilding agenda buffer...done | Switched to day view ` ,[ minimal.emacs ] | (setq inhibit-splash-screen t) | (global-font-lock-mode t) | (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name ~/git/org-mode)) | (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org$ . org-mode)) | (require 'org-install) | (define-key global-map \C-ca 'org-agenda) | (custom-set-variables | '(org-agenda-files (quote (~/org/test.org | (setq org-use-fast-todo-selection t) | | (org-agenda-list) ` ,[ test.org ] | * one | | SCHEDULED: 2008-01-20 Sun | | * two | | SCHEDULED: 2008-01-19 Sat | | * three | | SCHEDULED: 2008-01-17 Thu | | *** TODO One Two Three | ` | Key Sequence | Notes | |--+| | d| Go to day view | |--+| You know I can't live without org-mode anymore... My desk is clean and my notes are all in org-mode :) Thanks again! Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] BUG: column view in agenda -- marker does not point anywhere
Hi Carsten,
It seems today is bug reporting day :)
,[ minimal.emacs ]
| (setq inhibit-splash-screen t)
| (global-font-lock-mode t)
| (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name ~/git/org-mode))
| (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org$ . org-mode))
| (require 'org-install)
| (define-key global-map \C-ca 'org-agenda)
| (custom-set-variables
| '(org-agenda-files (quote (~/org/test.org
| (setq org-use-fast-todo-selection t)
|
| (setq org-global-properties '((Effort_ALL . 0 0:10 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00
4:00 5:00 6:00 7:00 8:00)))
| (setq org-columns-default-format %40ITEM(Task) %17Effort(Estimated
Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM)
|
| (org-agenda-list)
`
,[ test.org ]
| * one
| SCHEDULED: 2008-01-20 Sun
| * two
| SCHEDULED: 2008-01-19 Sat
| * three
| SCHEDULED: 2008-01-17 Thu
| *** TODO One Two Three
`
| Keystroke | Notes |
|---+-|
| C-c C-x C-c | Enter column view in the agenda |
| down arrow| to task |
| right arrow | to Estimated Effort field |
| S-right arrow | to set the value|
|---+-|
Each time I set the value I get the error:
org-columns-update: Marker does not point anywhere
but it does work and update the task property so it's not harming
anything in org-mode data that I can see - it just beeps and displays
the message which is confusing.
This also breaks C-x ( macros which I use alot when repeating the same
actions on multiple tasks. When the error displays the macro recording
terminates which is a little inconvenient.
With the cursor on a task in the agenda
| Keystroke | Notes |
|---+---|
| C-x ( | Start macro recording |
| right arrow | to Estimated Effort field |
| S-right arrow | to set the value (displays error) |
| C-x ) | to stop recording |
|---+---|
This issues the error
kmacro-end-macro: Not defining kbd macro
Regards,
Bernt
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: BUG?: repeat items disappears in agenda
I prefer the same way. I wish to have full confidence that anything scheduled but not done will show up in my agenda. Thanks. Wanrong Bernt Hansen wrote: I'm using the agenda to keep my important tasks 'in my face' so they get dealt with. This is normally the only place my repeating tasks show up. If I miss a repeating task for a few days for some reason the worst thing (for me) that can happen is it falls off the agenda for some time without being completed. In that case I lose it until it comes up again and now it's really late. It's fine if the date resets on the next repeating date if it remains undone that long but I'd really prefer the task to stay on the agenda no matter what - until it is completed (and moves to some future date). Just my two cents :) Bernt Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Dennis, thanks for the patch. I am not sure yet if you are using the right condition though. It seems to me that extending the late-warning-period makes sens only for repeating *tasks*, where the base date keeps changing each time you mark this entry as DONE. So maybe the condition should be that it is today *and* that the item is a task marked by a TODO keyword. Or: maybe for Scheduled, we should no relate to the *nearest* match of the repeater, but to the most recent one. This way you would get over- due warnings right up to the day where the next occurrence of this item is scheduled. So you would never loose sight on the item. H. More discussion please! - Carsten On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:55 PM, Dennis J Lin wrote: Salutations! Please post your code, you can always do this, the copyright question only star when we decide to use it. And even then, 4 lines is very little. Sure, please see it below :-) Dennis Lin Basically, in org-agenda-get-scheduled, we call org-time-string-to-absolute passing in d1 (the day that we're trying to get agenda items for.) The problems is that if d1 is today, we will get the closest day, which may be in the future, leading to the problem. The patch that I've found was to not pass in d1 if todayp is true. I have a 4 line patch implementing this (and I probably should write another one to fix a similar problem with deadlines), but I've not signed a FSF release, so I don't know if you want me to post my code here. Now, this patch is now quite old (it was for 5.08) but it should still apply cleanly. Looking at it, it might be whitespace damaged, and there should be a similar change for the get-deadline. However, I think it gets the idea across (and seems to fix the problem for me.) Dennis Lin --- old/org.el 2007-09-05 03:16:41.0 -0500 +++ new/org.el 2007-09-09 00:50:36.0 -0500 @@ -18676,7 +18676,9 @@ (org-agenda-skip) (setq s (match-string 1) pos (1- (match-beginning 1)) - d2 (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1) d1) + d2 (if todayp + (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1)) + (org-time-string-to-absolute (match-string 1) d1)) diff (- d2 d1)) (setq pastschedp (and todayp ( diff 0))) ;; When to show a scheduled item in the calendar: ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Documentation request
Hi Adam and all others From time to time my emails don't reach the list. Maybe I made a mistake and sent my answer to Adam personally this afternoon. Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your request is right on the money; in fact Bastien's already ahead of you - http://search.gmane.org/search.php?group=gmane.emacs.orgmodequery=worg In fact, I didn't realize that worg is exactly for that purpose. A good idea, although the Name reminds me on the MAD Magazine ;-) Thank you very much, Bastien. I will send you my request for registration soon. Greetings Sven pgpSl6t8pRVq9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] BUG? starting org-agenda-list from .emacs
Hi Bernt, this happens because the command needs a variable that is set by the post-command-hook in the agenda buffer. Normally you are issuing a command to get to the buffer, so the hook is run. However, in your case no command has been called yet. As a work-around, just press d twice, or execute any command, like a cursor motion first. I will have this fixed in the next version, thanks for the report. - Carsten On Jan 20, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: Carsten, I live in the agenda view. I'm always wanting to look at that as the first thing I do when I start Emacs. If I add (org-agenda-list) as the last thing in my .emacs I get an error when I try to switch to day view the very first time. Am I missing some other setup or is this a bug? If I don't call org-agenda-list from .emacs and display the agenda normally via C-a a a then d it works fine every time so I think some initial setup is missing when going straight to org-agenda-list at startup. Here's the error I get: , | org-agenda-check-type: Not allowed in nil-type agenda buffers ` The second time I hit 'd' it works fine. , | Rebuilding agenda buffer...done | Switched to day view ` ,[ minimal.emacs ] | (setq inhibit-splash-screen t) | (global-font-lock-mode t) | (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name ~/git/org-mode)) | (add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org$ . org-mode)) | (require 'org-install) | (define-key global-map \C-ca 'org-agenda) | (custom-set-variables | '(org-agenda-files (quote (~/org/test.org | (setq org-use-fast-todo-selection t) | | (org-agenda-list) ` ,[ test.org ] | * one | | SCHEDULED: 2008-01-20 Sun | | * two | | SCHEDULED: 2008-01-19 Sat | | * three | | SCHEDULED: 2008-01-17 Thu | | *** TODO One Two Three | ` | Key Sequence | Notes | |--+| | d| Go to day view | |--+| You know I can't live without org-mode anymore... My desk is clean and my notes are all in org-mode :) Thanks again! Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
