Re: [Orgmode] Docs submitted (Was Re: Advice sought on managing decision alternatives.)

2009-02-10 Thread Manish
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:
[...]
 OK, I've add comments, keywords, and some docstrings I forgot to
 org-choose.el, and I wrote a standalone doc. Both are attached.

This is very intriguing functionality.  I tried to follow your and Casten's
earlier exchanges but could understand only a little.  So I tried to follow
your tutorial but I am getting stuck at switching the `choosenness' of items.
I get following error when I try to switch to any state from no state.  Once
I assign a state by typing it out manually (as opposed to using state
switching commands), I can then switch between states but the error repeats
when I try to switch to MAYBE state.

,
| save-excursion: Symbol's function definition is void: outline-up-heading-all
`

And the test file:

--8---cut here---start-8---
#+CHOOSE_TODO: NO(n,-) MAYBE(m,0) YES(y,+)

* Which bike to buy?
*** Ducati
*** Honda
*** Kawasaki
--8---cut here---end---8---

So far, my understaning is that only one item can be in YES state.  If I try
to switch another item to YES then the existing YES will be demoted
to MAYBE.  So for a two-state choosenness only one item can be in CHOOSE
state while all others will switch to NOT_CHOOSEN state.. is that
understanding correct?

Thanks again.
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Setting recurring deadlines

2009-02-10 Thread Tassilo Horn
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

Hi Nick,

 I was curious how to get that done, but I couldn't find a diary for
 each last day of a month in diary, too.  Each second thursday in a
 month is on emacswiki, but all those complex dates I found are wired
 to a specific day of the week...

 Bah, how hard can that be? - famous last words, now eaten (I did
 choke on them along the way) ...

 Here's my attempt (tested *very* lightly):

 %%(let ((lastday (calendar-last-day-of-month (calendar-extract-month date)
   (calendar-extract-year date)))
  (day (calendar-extract-day date)))
 (= day lastday)) last day of month

Using `calendar-last-day-of-month' is unfair. ;-)

Bye,
Tassilo


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Re: [Orgmode] Docs submitted (Was Re: Advice sought on managing decision alternatives.)

2009-02-10 Thread Manish
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Feb 10, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Manish wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:
 [...]

 OK, I've add comments, keywords, and some docstrings I forgot to
 org-choose.el, and I wrote a standalone doc. Both are attached.

 This is very intriguing functionality. I tried to follow your and
 Casten's
 earlier exchanges but could understand only a little. So I tried to
 follow
 your tutorial but I am getting stuck at switching the `choosenness' of
 items.
 I get following error when I try to switch to any state from no state.
 Once
 I assign a state by typing it out manually (as opposed to using state
 switching commands), I can then switch between states but the error
 repeats
 when I try to switch to MAYBE state.

 ,
 | save-excursion: Symbol's function definition is void:
 outline-up-heading-all
 `

 Hmm, not sure if I messed up there - so I fixed this bug. Tom,
 please check if I did this right.

This issue is gone for me.  Thanks.

 So far, my understaning is that only one item can be in YES state. If I
 try
 to switch another item to YES then the existing YES will be demoted
 to MAYBE. So for a two-state choosenness only one item can be in CHOOSE
 state while all others will switch to NOT_CHOOSEN state.. is that
 understanding correct?

With three choices for choosenness, it works as I expected (only one item in
CHOSEN state at a time) but for more choices like:

#+CHOOSE_TODO: REJECTED(r) NOT_CHOSEN(n,-) MAYBE(,0)
LEANING_TOWARDS(l) CHOSEN(c,+)

it allows multiple items to be in CHOSEN state.  How do we interpret that?

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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.22

2009-02-10 Thread Ben Alexander

Hi Saurabh,

I had fancy ideas once, and I've gone nowhere with them.  I used org- 
map-entries to convert an org-mode file into an acceptable input file  
for ledger.  See my note to the org-mode list at :


http://groups.google.com/group/ledger-cli/browse_thread/thread/cba54edf065c7623

I haven't followed up on my new year's resolution because I had to  
move overseas instead.  Any org-mode users in Romania?


-Ben


On 2009-Feb-10, at 12:05, Saurabh Agrawal wrote:




Just yesterday night, I was thinking of an extension for basic double
book accounting, wherein we can use TODO type keywords for
Debit/Credit and Tags for account names.

For each accounting entry to succeed, there should be two entries
compulsorily, as is the rule for double book keeping.

Then, there should be a pane on the left side maybe, updating
different accounts (such as cash, bank, food, books etc.) real time.

Finally, some report to show the transaction for a particular a/c (ie
Tag) can be generated.




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Re: [Orgmode] agenda formatting

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi John,

I believe the reason for this problem is that, when you
run Emacs in batch mode, it has no display and therefore
no colored faces, so that HTMLIZE will pick up simpler
versions of the faces and use those.  So the solution you
are choosing is exactly the right one, defining the faces in
a CSS file.

You probably now end up with double face definitions, one
set inlined by htmlize, the other set in your class file.
You can get rid of the inlined ones by binding
htmlize-output-type to `css' for the duration of the export.

If you copy the face definitions from org.css, you will get the
default Emacs faces.  If you have configured faces and want to
use those, start an emacs session, display you agenda to make
sure all faces have been defined, and then run the command

M-x org-export-htmlize-generate-css RET

This will create css for all faces currently defined in Emacs.
The copy these definitions, or the ones you'd like to have,
into your own css file.

HTH

- Carsten




On Feb 10, 2009, at 2:52 AM, John Rakestraw wrote:


Replying to myself, just in case others have this question...


Hi --

I'd like to export my agenda to an html page, and I'd like to do
regularly with a cron job. I've set up the custom agenda view, and
use the batch processing described here:

http://orgmode.org/manual/Using-the-agenda-elsewhere.html#Using-the-agenda-elsewhere

When I export the custom agenda using C-c a e interactively from
within emacs, the agenda.html file has all the formatting of the
usual agenda within org -- colored and bold fonts as I expect them to
be. However, when I create the agenda using this command from the
command line:

emacs -batch -l ~/.emacs -eval '(org-batch-agenda e)'

all of the text in agenda.html is the same color. In addition, much  
of

the text in the html version is italicized.

Looking at the html source of the two different versions, I see that
the CSS style settings are different, so the export process of the
batch file is picking up a different css style sheet than the one
picked up by the export process called within emacs. (I found the  
file

org.css in my org git directory, but that seems to have still
different settings for faces.)

I've not changed any of the default face settings.

Should the formatting in the html file produced by the batch process
be the same as the formatting produced using C-c a e within emacs.
Or, in other words, is there a problem with my set-up?

Apologies if there's an obvious answer to this -- my searches haven't
turned up anything.

Thanks --



With a little more digging, I've solved my problem. Not sure that this
is the best solution, because I still don't understand why running
org-batch-agenda from the command line wasn't picking up the same  
style
sheet as the export agenda command run interactively from within  
emacs.


However, inserting this in my org config file has agenda.htm looking
the same as it looks in the org buffer no matter agenda.htm is
generated:

***code starts here
(setq org-agenda-export-html-style

style
 body {
   color: #daa520;
   background-color: #00;
 }
 .org-agenda-date {
   /* org-agenda-date */
   color: #87cefa;
 }
 .org-agenda-structure {
   /* org-agenda-structure */
   color: #87cefa;
 }
 .org-scheduled {
   /* org-scheduled */
   color: #98fb98;
 }
 .org-scheduled-previously {
   /* org-scheduled-previously */
   color: #ff7f24;
 }
 .org-scheduled-today {
   /* org-scheduled-today */
   color: #98fb98;
 }
 .org-tag {
   /* org-tag */
   font-weight: bold;
 }
 .org-todo {
   /* org-todo */
   color: #ffc0cb;
   font-weight: bold;
 }

 a {
   color: inherit;
   background-color: inherit;
   font: inherit;
   text-decoration: inherit;
 }
 a:hover {
   text-decoration: underline;
 }
/style
)
***code ends here


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Re: [Orgmode] An advice about stirng width in unicode

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi,

the table editor works fine if each Chinese character is an integer  
number of ASCII characters wide.  So you need to find a Chinese font  
that does have this property.  No chance that  will ever make this  
work for fonts that do not have this property.


- Carsten


Matt, this is another FAQ... :-)

On Feb 10, 2009, at 7:42 AM, goodmenli...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
   Org-mode is a great package! It is so great!!

   Here is my situation:
   I'm a Chinese. I use different font to display Chinese character
   and English characters. The table can not align correctly when
   there are Chinese character in it. I had check the table in detail,
   and found that you supposed that a Chinese char has double width
   of the english. But it is not true for _all_ chinese font.

   Would you please fix these ?  I don't want to use a single font
   in my emacs environment.





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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.22

2009-02-10 Thread Saurabh Agrawal
 Hi Castern,

Am really sorry for the misspell.. :(




 Its me, Saurabh again.

 Thanks a lot for the fast new releases. I am really enjoying working
 with org and finding it indispensably useful.

 I would also want to thank Manish, who the other day, devoted 2 hours
 of his, with me, for the interactive help session.

 This package inserts itself into Org using hooks, so if other
 people would like to do interesting stuff with TODO keywords for
 special purposes, looking at Tom's code might be a good way to
 start.


 Just yesterday night, I was thinking of an extension for basic double
 book accounting, wherein we can use TODO type keywords for
 Debit/Credit and Tags for account names.

 For each accounting entry to succeed, there should be two entries
 compulsorily, as is the rule for double book keeping.

 Then, there should be a pane on the left side maybe, updating
 different accounts (such as cash, bank, food, books etc.) real time.

 Finally, some report to show the transaction for a particular a/c (ie
 Tag) can be generated.

 I really don't have the expertise to implement this, but maybe this
 could be a project for someone who is good at lisp... :)

 I really don't know if something like this exists for org; do let me
 know if something is there and forgive me for this unnecessary idea.

 Thanks for reading.

 With regards,
 Saurabh Agrawal.




 Thanks to Tom for this interesting contribution!
 orgmode.org and Worg css works now better on IE
 
 Thanks to Sebastian Rose for making these changes.
 When exporting a subtree, headline levels are now relative to parent
 =
 This was reported as a bug by William Henney and is fixed now.
 Inactive dates in tables can be used for sorting.
 ==
 When sorting table fields or entries by date, Org first tries to
 find an active date, and, if none exist, uses a passive date if
 present.
 This was a request by Hsui-Khuen Tang
 The default for `org-return-follows-link' is back to `nil'
 ===
 Setting it to `t' violates Emacs rules to some extend.  The
 internal implementation of this has been improved, so setting it
 to `t' should now be pretty stable.
 Automatic scheduling of siblings with org-depend.el
 
 The sibling of a DONE task can now automatically be scheduled.
 This was a patch by Andrew Hyatt.
 New skipping conditions
 
 The functions `org-agenda-skip-entry-if' and
 `org-agenda-skip-subtree-if' now accept `timestamp' and
 `nottimestamp' as additional conditions.
 This was in response to a request by Saurabh Agrawal.

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[Orgmode] revert all agenda buffers

2009-02-10 Thread David Bremner

Hi Org-wizards;

I am using git to to sync my org files between various hosts. The
problem is that when I update the files on disk (i.e. with a git pull)
then I have to manually revert each current org buffer (or, restart
emacs, like that is going to happen :-) ).  It would be nice if there
was an analog of org-save-all-org-buffers that reverted them all for
me. Am I missing an existing solution?

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[Orgmode] Citing articles, bibliography and html export

2009-02-10 Thread Taru Karttunen
Hello

Is there a good way of writing articles so that citations and
the bibliography works in both latex and html?

Currently I am using \cite{foobar} in the text and
have:

#+LATEX: \bibliographystyle{foo}
#+LATEX: \bibliography{bar}

In the end and a corresponding .bib file. This works nicely with 
latex, but I would like a solution that worked also with html.

How have other people solved this?

- Taru Karttunen


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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Jan Seeger jan.see...@thenybble.de writes:
 Greetings!

 I am currently creating a website using org-mode, and I want images to
 float to the right. However, that leads to a problem that the outline
 container doesn't resize to contain the image (Attached is a screenshot).

 To force the outline container to resize, it would work to add div
 style=clear: both/ before the end of the last container as
 suggested here: http://csscreator.com/node/78.

 Is there any infrastructure in place to add something like this, or
 would I have to patch the code?

Hi Jan,


there are several possiblities to achive your goal.

A)

 @divimg... //div@

Not shure if this is still supported though. I don't use that anymore


B) 

#+begin_html

 Html code here

#+end_html


and C)

  This is the cleanest way to do it.

#+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
[[./img/a.jpg] ]

and use CSS.





see http://orgmode.org/Changes.html?OCCUR=image

(press `S-s' to find all matches for `image')


Best,

   Sebastian



 Best Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Richard Riley
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:


   This is the cleanest way to do it.

 #+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
 [[./img/a.jpg] ]

 and use CSS.



I didn't know about this!

Should this maybe be documented somewhere other than in the Links section
of the manual?

(org) Links

regards

r.



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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Richard Riley rileyrg...@googlemail.com writes:
 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:


   This is the cleanest way to do it.

 #+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
 [[./img/a.jpg] ]

 and use CSS.



 I didn't know about this!

 Should this maybe be documented somewhere other than in the Links section
 of the manual?

I'm used to search the `list of user visible changes' though.  I can
imagine it's always a lot of work to incorporate all those new features
into the manual, and still keep that clean and easy to follow (forgot
the word... I know there is one...).

So the `hottest' features are often found in the news file :-)

I'm shure this will change as soon as we start to order printed manuals
on Amazon :)

I'll also by the `Book of user visible changes', just to be shure.



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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Jan Seeger
At Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:03:47 +0100,
Sebastian Rose wrote:
 
 Hi Jan,
 
 
 there are several possiblities to achive your goal.
 
snip 
 B) 
 
 #+begin_html
 
  Html code here
 
 #+end_html

Yep, that's what I did. It's somewhat ugly though.

 and C)
 
   This is the cleanest way to do it.
 
 #+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
 [[./img/a.jpg] ]
 
 and use CSS.
 
The problem is that I can't use CSS. I need to modify the HTML to
insert an element which forces the outline-2 container to extend all
the way down to the end of the image.

Regards,
Jan


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Re: [Orgmode] Call for documentation of contributed packages

2009-02-10 Thread Philip Rooke
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:55:09AM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 To start up this process,  I am looking for a volunteer, with
 the following task:

 Go through the file commentaries of stuff in Org's contrib
 directory and extract information from the file commentaries to
 create a page for each of these packages.  Making a start in
 this way would be great, and package authors and users could
 then improve on this with time.  Anyone???

Hi Carsten,

(Apologies for not finishing this before when you asked me...) I am
back around for a bit and can volunteer if you would like.

Regards,

Phil

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Re: [Orgmode] Citing articles, bibliography and html export

2009-02-10 Thread Scot Becker
At the moment, rather than using BibTeX, I'm just doing citations
manually, using org's footnote mechanism and /italics/ markup.  This
works, but I think I may have a few bugs to report with org's LaTeX
export.  All those italics, punctuation, and parentheses in close
proximity seem like they may be causing problems.  I haven't yet
sorted out where the problems are, but I'll report them as soon as I
do.
If you can imagine forgoing the luxury of BibTeX, this is probably the
way to go., alternately you could use BibTeX to assure the quailty of
your LaTeX output (print still rules in some quarters), but do manual
citations in using #+HTML markup.

If you want to use BibTeX for your citations, you'd have to have
either: (1) a bibtex engine for HTML (does it exist?) or (2) get org
to cleverly insert fragments of TeX output in HTML, both for each
citation and the bibliography.  This would be ugly even if it were
easy, and I suspect it's not.

With regard to (1), I suppose you could hack together a very
rudimentary substitution engine to replace your \cites with
preformatted citations which were already set up in org markup, and
would therefore export into HTML.  This could be promising if your
citation requirements are simple, and if you do enough work using a
single style guide to make the setup work worth it.

You may find a LaTeX to HTML exporter that can do the trick.  And if
it did, this might be the best of all worlds.

The last option would be working up an org export to 'pandoc', an
extension of Markdown which has a very cool citation mechanism in
development (using Citation Style Language, the same as the Zotero
bibliographic manager, so there are already many citation styles).
It's working (and can use BibTeX databases), but I've not put it to
the test. If you could sucessfully get your work from org to pandoc,
you could then export to either LaTeX or HTML (as well as ODF and
OOXML).  There are some people on this list working on (or musing
over) a generalized org2wiki exporter, and, it might someday be
possible to coax that to export to pandoc/Markdown.  This is, only a
possibility, though, and not free of problems.  I only put it down for
the record.

Scot



On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Taru Karttunen tar...@taruti.net wrote:
 Hello

 Is there a good way of writing articles so that citations and
 the bibliography works in both latex and html?

 Currently I am using \cite{foobar} in the text and
 have:

 #+LATEX: \bibliographystyle{foo}
 #+LATEX: \bibliography{bar}

 In the end and a corresponding .bib file. This works nicely with
 latex, but I would like a solution that worked also with html.

 How have other people solved this?

 - Taru Karttunen


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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.22

2009-02-10 Thread Manish
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Hi,
 I have release Org-mode 6.22.
[snip: many new features (38 lines)]
 New skipping conditions
 
 The functions `org-agenda-skip-entry-if' and
 `org-agenda-skip-subtree-if' now accept `timestamp' and
 `nottimestamp' as additional conditions.
 This was in response to a request by Saurabh Agrawal.

Shouldn't these skipping conditions be available when using customize to make
custom agenda commands?

-- 
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[Orgmode] newbie - gnus links/split windows/breadcrumbs

2009-02-10 Thread Bill White
Howdy -

I've finally taken the plunge into org-mode - I'm transferring my last 3
years of old planner/muse notes to org for its better html export and
its astounding rate of development.

So naturally I've found a few little things that bug me:

 - gnus hyperlinks open a new frame, rather than teleporting me to my
   running instance of gnus in the current frame.  Is it possible to
   keep things in one frame?  My gnus links are of the form

[[gnus:nnml:wri.d-wpt#87y719beqv@wolfram.com][e-mail to Joe Schmoe]]

 - C-o on an external link to another file in my ~/org results in a
   split window with the target file at the bottom.  Is it possible to
   open targets in the same window?  When I follow a trail of links to
   separate files (homepage - project homepage with hundreds of
   projects for my manager to read - details of a single project) I'm
   left with a tiny window and have to do C-x 1 to clean things up.

 - breadcrumbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadcrumb_(navigation).  A
   link from, say, ~/org/projects.org, to a nonexistent file,
   [[file:blargh.org][blargh]], opens a buffer named blargh.org.
   Immediately after creating the new buffer, would it be possible to
   insert a link that points back to the calling page?  In this example,
   the following link would appear at the top of blargh.org:
   [[file:projects.org][projects.org]].

Thanks -

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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Richard Riley

Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Richard Riley rileyrg...@googlemail.com writes:
 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:


   This is the cleanest way to do it.

 #+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
 [[./img/a.jpg] ]

 and use CSS.



 I didn't know about this!

 Should this maybe be documented somewhere other than in the Links section
 of the manual?

 I'm used to search the `list of user visible changes' though.  I can
 imagine it's always a lot of work to incorporate all those new features
 into the manual, and still keep that clean and easy to follow (forgot
 the word... I know there is one...).

 So the `hottest' features are often found in the news file :-)

Nothing new there then for any SW :-; I must admit not to following the
development too much now since most just works :-)

But anyway, I just thought I'd mention it since the relevant doc is
there but could be moved I guess.


 I'm shure this will change as soon as we start to order printed manuals
 on Amazon :)

 I'll also by the `Book of user visible changes', just to be shure.



 Regards,

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Re: [Orgmode] Citing articles, bibliography and html export

2009-02-10 Thread Matthew Lundin

Hi Taru,

Taru Karttunen tar...@taruti.net writes:

 Currently I am using \cite{foobar} in the text and
 have:

 #+LATEX: \bibliographystyle{foo}
 #+LATEX: \bibliography{bar}

 In the end and a corresponding .bib file. This works nicely with 
 latex, but I would like a solution that worked also with html.

 How have other people solved this?

I think you'll have to export to TeX and then convert to html using
something like TeX4ht:

http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/

Best,
Matt




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Re: [Orgmode] Citing articles, bibliography and html export

2009-02-10 Thread Manuel Hermenegildo

  If you want to use BibTeX for your citations, you'd have to have
  either: (1) a bibtex engine for HTML (does it exist?) or (2) get org
  to cleverly insert fragments of TeX output in HTML, both for each
  citation and the bibliography.  This would be ugly even if it were
  easy, and I suspect it's not.

Some time ago I had some success in a similar context (writing an
autodocumenter for the Ciao programming language) where I needed to
generate citations in a format different from latex.  I managed to do
this by writing a new .bst file (the bibliography style file that
controls the format in which bibtex formats the references that it
outputs). Hope it helps. --Manuel

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Re: [Orgmode] Citing articles, bibliography and html export

2009-02-10 Thread David Bremner
At Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:33:31 +0100,
Manuel Hermenegildo wrote:
 
 Some time ago I had some success in a similar context (writing an
 autodocumenter for the Ciao programming language) where I needed to
 generate citations in a format different from latex.  I managed to do
 this by writing a new .bst file (the bibliography style file that
 controls the format in which bibtex formats the references that it
 outputs). Hope it helps. --Manuel
 

Unless you like forth, bst programming is not much fun. There is also
e.g. the Text::BibTeX perl module, python-bibtex and probably other
options parsing for the bibtex format.

There is also ebib [1], a bibtex editor for emacs, but I'm not sure if 
deals with formatting entries, which is the main issue here.


[1] http://ebib.sourceforge.net/



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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.22

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik

Yes, thanks, fixed now.

- Carsten

On Feb 10, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Manish wrote:


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

Hi,
I have release Org-mode 6.22.

[snip: many new features (38 lines)]

New skipping conditions

The functions `org-agenda-skip-entry-if' and
`org-agenda-skip-subtree-if' now accept `timestamp' and
`nottimestamp' as additional conditions.
This was in response to a request by Saurabh Agrawal.


Shouldn't these skipping conditions be available when using  
customize to make

custom agenda commands?

--
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Re: [Orgmode] revert all agenda buffers

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:21 PM, David Bremner wrote:



Hi Org-wizards;

I am using git to to sync my org files between various hosts. The
problem is that when I update the files on disk (i.e. with a git pull)
then I have to manually revert each current org buffer (or, restart
emacs, like that is going to happen :-) ).  It would be nice if there
was an analog of org-save-all-org-buffers that reverted them all for
me. Am I missing an existing solution?


6.22b has now `org-revert-all-org-buffers'.  I consider this command
slightly dangerous, so you have to confirm with yes.

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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 10, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Richard Riley wrote:


Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:



 This is the cleanest way to do it.

#+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
[[./img/a.jpg] ]

and use CSS.




I didn't know about this!

Should this maybe be documented somewhere other than in the Links  
section

of the manual?


(org) Links


It is documented here:

http://orgmode.org/manual/Links.html#Links

Is this not the right place?

- Carsten




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Re: [Orgmode] Citing articles, bibliography and html export

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 10, 2009, at 7:02 PM, David Bremner wrote:


At Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:33:31 +0100,
Manuel Hermenegildo wrote:


Some time ago I had some success in a similar context (writing an
autodocumenter for the Ciao programming language) where I needed to
generate citations in a format different from latex.  I managed to do
this by writing a new .bst file (the bibliography style file that
controls the format in which bibtex formats the references that it
outputs). Hope it helps. --Manuel



Unless you like forth, bst programming is not much fun. There is also
e.g. the Text::BibTeX perl module, python-bibtex and probably other
options parsing for the bibtex format.

There is also ebib [1], a bibtex editor for emacs, but I'm not sure if
deals with formatting entries, which is the main issue here.


Both reftex-cite.el and bibtex.el have pretty sophisticated
ways to extract info from bibtex databases.  So with a little
bit of lisp, I am sure it is possible to cook something that
would insert references well enough during HTML export.

- Carsten

P.S. No, I am no writing it :-)



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[Orgmode] How to tag paragraphs?

2009-02-10 Thread Alan E. Davis
I would like to ask, without asking for any new features, how writers among
the Org-mode community have come up with solutions for tagging paragraphs.

I had submitted a manuscript to a friend-reviewer a number of years ago.  He
tagged paragraphs by little keywords or numbers.  This mimicked the ability
in org mode to collapse and expand and move sections.  I can do this by
adding a heading for each little section, and that's all good.

But several times I've stumbled over the impossibility of tagging an item
list item, and just now I have started a long piece that requires some
massaging to get into shape.  Tagging paragraphs would have worked well.

Perhaps someone on this list has developed ways to doing these things?

Thank you again for all the help,

Alan
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there is no ground whatsoever for supposing it is true.
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[Orgmode] Re: How to tag paragraphs?

2009-02-10 Thread Alan E. Davis
On this topic, another thought occurs.

I think that the current tagging concept is perfectly implemented.  To add
more tags for the purpose I have suggested would interfere with the current
agenda concept.

Perhaps the best way is to use headlines, and delete them later.  That's
probably what I'll do.

Thanks,

Alan

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would like to ask, without asking for any new features, how writers among
 the Org-mode community have come up with solutions for tagging paragrap




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Re: [Orgmode] Release 6.22

2009-02-10 Thread Wanrong Lin
Just want to point out the download link on the org-mode web page is 
still pointing to 6.21b.




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Re: [Orgmode] revert all agenda buffers

2009-02-10 Thread Manish
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:21 PM, David Bremner wrote:


 Hi Org-wizards;

 I am using git to to sync my org files between various hosts. The
 problem is that when I update the files on disk (i.e. with a git pull)
 then I have to manually revert each current org buffer (or, restart
 emacs, like that is going to happen :-) ). It would be nice if there
 was an analog of org-save-all-org-buffers that reverted them all for
 me. Am I missing an existing solution?

 6.22b has now `org-revert-all-org-buffers'. I consider this command
 slightly dangerous, so you have to confirm with yes.

Org mode is my default mode and many buffers not necessarily part of agenda
are open almost all the time.  Will this command revert *all* Org buffers or
only the ones part of org-agenda-files?

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[Orgmode] Bug: org-cycle on list at the end of buffer

2009-02-10 Thread Wanrong Lin

Hi,

I have org-cycle-include-plain-lists set to t. In the following 
example, the text is at the very end of an org-mode buffer. If I put my 
cursor on the line of item 1 and press TAB key, the cycling does not 
work. But if I add another list item after item 1, the cycling now 
works (of course now the item 2 does not work). I am using Emacs 22.3 
and org-mode 6.22a. Looks like a bug. Thank you if somebody can look 
into this.


* Test
 1. item 1
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Re: [Orgmode] revert all agenda buffers

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 10, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Manish wrote:


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:


On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:21 PM, David Bremner wrote:



Hi Org-wizards;

I am using git to to sync my org files between various hosts. The
problem is that when I update the files on disk (i.e. with a git  
pull)

then I have to manually revert each current org buffer (or, restart
emacs, like that is going to happen :-) ). It would be nice if there
was an analog of org-save-all-org-buffers that reverted them all for
me. Am I missing an existing solution?


6.22b has now `org-revert-all-org-buffers'. I consider this command
slightly dangerous, so you have to confirm with yes.


Org mode is my default mode and many buffers not necessarily part of  
agenda
are open almost all the time.  Will this command revert *all* Org  
buffers or

only the ones part of org-agenda-files?


All of them.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Richard Riley
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:

 On Feb 10, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Richard Riley wrote:

 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:


  This is the cleanest way to do it.

 #+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
 [[./img/a.jpg] ]

 and use CSS.



 I didn't know about this!

 Should this maybe be documented somewhere other than in the Links
 section
 of the manual?


 (org) Links

 It is documented here:

 http://orgmode.org/manual/Links.html#Links

 Is this not the right place?

 - Carsten


Hi Carsten,

I'm not sure. But it seems its also applicable to images. So possibly a
mention there or better in general HTML Export section? I could be
totally wrong though and am only going on my understanding of
Sebastian's advice,

regards

r.



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Re: [Orgmode] revert all agenda buffers

2009-02-10 Thread Manish
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Feb 10, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Manish wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:21 PM, David Bremner wrote:


 Hi Org-wizards;

 I am using git to to sync my org files between various hosts. The
 problem is that when I update the files on disk (i.e. with a git pull)
 then I have to manually revert each current org buffer (or, restart
 emacs, like that is going to happen :-) ). It would be nice if there
 was an analog of org-save-all-org-buffers that reverted them all for
 me. Am I missing an existing solution?

 6.22b has now `org-revert-all-org-buffers'. I consider this command
 slightly dangerous, so you have to confirm with yes.

 Org mode is my default mode and many buffers not necessarily part of
 agenda
 are open almost all the time. Will this command revert *all* Org buffers
 or
 only the ones part of org-agenda-files?

 All of them.

I take it that it has to.  So far I haven't yet run into David's situation so
I guess I am fine for the moment.  But if I need to then I guess I will need
to remember to save (from agenda view, so that all Org buffers are saved)
before executing the git pull and revert command?

-- 
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[Orgmode] Re: LaTeX Export

2009-02-10 Thread Rasmus Pank Roulund
Hello,
Sorry for the late reply. This is regarind a bug in LaTeX export.
The trouble seems to happen when autofill is used. It
might be caused by something else. I am not sure. The thing is
that Org sometimes misintpretate $ as the currency symbolar
rather than math as in LaTeX-lingu. IMO the use of $ as a
currency symbol should be optional.

Here is an example of the error:

Org source: 

   - Funktioner findes ved at sætte funktionen lige en given konstant
 $k$. Dermed bestemmes indifferentfunktion. Det ses nemt at
 $u(x_1, x_2)=k$.

LaTeX export: 

   \item Funktioner findes ved at sætte funktionen lige en given konstant
 \$k\$. Dermed bestemmes indifferentfunktion. Det ses nemt at
 $u(x_1, x_2)=k$.

I have pulled the newest revision of Org. The version is 6.22b.

Thanks,
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[Orgmode] Bug and feature request in HTML export

2009-02-10 Thread Rasmus Pank Roulund
Hello,
There seems to be a bug in HTML export.
I am using Org for making a (fancy) web site.
I define the top menu via a list which is made fancy via CSS.

The Org file looks like this:

#+HTML: div id=topbar

  - [[file:index.org][Forside]]
  - [[file:eksempler.org][Eksempler]]

#+HTML: /div

The corrosponding HTML code looks like this:

div id=navbar

ul
li
a href=index.htmlForside/a
/li
li
a href=eksempler.htmlEksempler/a
/li
/div

/li
/ul

Thus, when I try to validate the site it gets errors! It should look
like 

...
/li
/ul
/div

I tried to insert a comment (#) after the list but Org still ended div
before ul.

I also have a couple of feature request/bug reports for html export:

First: it would be nice if one could specify the location of the title
similar to the [TABLE-OF-CONTENTS] option. At the moment it seems to
always be placed in the top of the page, which might not be desirable. 

Second: I do not know if this is a feature, but * Heading (i.e. a first
level heading) is marked as a h2 heading. It should probably be
h1. At least one should be able to define it as a h1 heading.

Third (bug): Sometimes links are rendered wrong: 
 [[http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/k/keynes/john_maynard/k44g/k44g.html]]
 is rendered as a 
href=http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/k/keynes/john_maynard/k44g/k44g.html;http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/k/keynes/johnsubmaynard/sub/k44g/k44g.html/a
 notice the sub-tags!

Forth: Sometimes it is desirable to be able to #+HTML in links and
titles. This is not possible.
For example:
 #+TITLE:  #+HTML: span class=latexTsubE/subX/span
or 
[[http://scripts.sil.org/xetex][
#+HTML: span class=latexXsub#398;/subTsube/subX/span
]]

Thanks,
Rasmus



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[Orgmode] Re: Latex export error in tables

2009-02-10 Thread Flávio de Souza
Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Flávio wrote:
 [snip (44 lines)]

 This is not a utf-8 encoding problem. When I generate a tex file with org, I
 change manually from \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} to
 \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}. All characters are recognized without any
 problems. I tested it both in Linux and Windows XP. This works fine.

 Now I will try to narrow down my problem and see if we can find a solution. I
 really believe the problem is in tex code generated by org. I will show you 
 the
 reason I am pointing the problem to org.

 If I have an org table in my file like this one:

 #+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 1 :vlines t :id 09.0001-ESCH :skip-empty-rows t
 |  | ITEM | Quotation | Sold | Required |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |  | * Escopo Horas|230 | 1640 | |
 |  | ** Gerência |10 |   | |
 |  | ** Definição |50 |   | |
 |  | ** Configuração   |100 |   | |
 |  | ** Comis.  Start up |50 |   | |
 |  | ** Documentação   |20 |   | |
 | / |   | |   | |
 #+END:

 Then I select the option to generate latex [L] export as LaTeX to temporary
 buffer ( I only want the tex code, I am not going to do any further
 transformation on it ). The raw code for that specific part of the file is:


 \begin{tabular}{l|l|r|l}
 ITEM   Quotation  Sold  Required \\
 \hline
 * Escopo Horas 230  1640   \\
 \textbf{* Gerência10   \\
 *} Definição   50   \\
 \textbf{* Configuração 100   \\
 *} Comis.  Start up   50   \\
 ** Documentação  20   \\
 \end{tabular}

 The problems I can point to in this code are:

 1) The code \textbf{* Gerência is wrong, it should be \textbf{*} Gerência
 2) The code *} Definição is wrong, it should be \textbf{*} Definição. The
 same problem happens in other rows as you can see above. So all these open
 command lines will be the source for the errors.
 3) One minor problem is that the character  at Comis.  Start up should 
 be
 genrated as \. However this is a minor problem and I just dont use this
 character anymore.

 Now I will describe my solution (workaround) I found today for it. Firstly I
 changed my org table configuration to:

 #+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 2 :vlines t :id 09.0001-ESCH :skip-empty-rows t
 |  | ITEM | Quotation | Sold | Required |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |  | * Escopo Horas|230 | 1640 | |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |  | ** Gerência |10 |   | |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |  | ** Definição |50 |   | |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |  | ** Configuração   |100 |   | |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |  | ** Comis.and Startup |50 |   | |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |  | ** Documentação   |20 |   | |
 | / |   | |   | |
 #+END:

 With the option :hlines 2 my table has horizontal lines in every row. When I
 generate tex, it will look like this:

 \begin{tabular}{l|l|r|l}
 ITEM  Quotation  Sold  Required \\
 \hline
 * Escopo Horas230  1640   \\
 \hline
 ** Gerência   10   \\
 \hline
 ** Definição  50   \\
 \hline
 ** Configuração100   \\
 \hline
 ** Comis.and Start up  50   \\
 \hline
 ** Documentação 20   \\
 \end{tabular}

 The above code is a perfect tex table and I get no errors, because now the 
 code
 is generated with \hline. I needed to deviate org tex generation code from
 using \textbuf :)

 That was quite detailed analysis so I tried to replicate it.

 This is the input file (I only added a first blank line and a dummy heading):

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 #
 * test table
 #+BEGIN: columnview :hlines 1 :vlines t :id 09.0001-ESCH  :skip-empty-rows t
 |   | ITEM | Quotation | Sold | Required |
 |---+--+---+--+--|
 |   | * Escopo Horas   |   230 | 1640 |  |
 |   | ** Ger�ncia  |10 |  |  |
 |   | ** Defini��o |50 |  |  |
 |   | ** Configura��o  |   100 |  |  |
 |   | ** Comis.  Start up |50 |  |  |
 |   | ** Documenta��o  |20 |  |  |
 | / || |||
 #+END:
 --8---cut here---end---8---

 I did a C-c C-e L to export to tex and following is what I got:

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 % Created 2009-02-09 Mon 19:35
 \documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{article}
 \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
 \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
 

[Orgmode] HTML export: feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Wanrong Lin

Hi,

One problem I have with current HTML export is the section number (like 
1, 2.1, 2.1.2 and etc) is not very distinctive from the actual 
section heading. Also, sometimes I wish the sub-section headings are 
indented. So I wonder whether we can add the following features:


1. Assign a CSS class to the section number, so the section number font 
and color can be customized through CSS
2. Add a variable to control whether sub-sections should be indented in 
the export, and by how much.


Thank you for giving some thoughts on the above.

Wanrong


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Re: [Orgmode] newbie - gnus links/split windows/breadcrumbs

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 10, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Bill White wrote:


Howdy -

I've finally taken the plunge into org-mode - I'm transferring my  
last 3

years of old planner/muse notes to org for its better html export and
its astounding rate of development.

So naturally I've found a few little things that bug me:

- gnus hyperlinks open a new frame, rather than teleporting me to my
  running instance of gnus in the current frame.  Is it possible to
  keep things in one frame?  My gnus links are of the form


[[gnus:nnml:wri.d-wpt#87y719beqv@wolfram.com][e-mail to Joe  
Schmoe]]


http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2721/focus=2742


- C-o on an external link to another file in my ~/org results in a
  split window with the target file at the bottom.  Is it possible to
  open targets in the same window?  When I follow a trail of links to
  separate files (homepage - project homepage with hundreds of
  projects for my manager to read - details of a single project) I'm
  left with a tiny window and have to do C-x 1 to clean things up.


Again, customize org-link-frame-setup, and set
the `file' entry to `find-file'.

- breadcrumbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
Breadcrumb_(navigation).  A

  link from, say, ~/org/projects.org, to a nonexistent file,
  [[file:blargh.org][blargh]], opens a buffer named blargh.org.
  Immediately after creating the new buffer, would it be possible to
  insert a link that points back to the calling page?  In this  
example,

  the following link would appear at the top of blargh.org:
  [[file:projects.org][projects.org]].


There is nothing for this.  I guess you could insert a
function in change-major-mode-hook or so, when you get
there through linking, `old-buffer' will contain the
buffer where the link was called.  However, you need to
be careful here because this function will be called
in many other occasions as well.
So something like

(when (and (eq this-command 'org-open-at-point)
   (boundp 'old-buffer)
   (equal (point-min) (point-max))
  ..

... and maybe even more precautions...


HTH

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] revert all agenda buffers

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 10, 2009, at 9:00 PM, Manish wrote:


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:


On Feb 10, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Manish wrote:


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:


On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:21 PM, David Bremner wrote:



Hi Org-wizards;

I am using git to to sync my org files between various hosts. The
problem is that when I update the files on disk (i.e. with a git  
pull)
then I have to manually revert each current org buffer (or,  
restart
emacs, like that is going to happen :-) ). It would be nice if  
there
was an analog of org-save-all-org-buffers that reverted them all  
for

me. Am I missing an existing solution?


6.22b has now `org-revert-all-org-buffers'. I consider this command
slightly dangerous, so you have to confirm with yes.


Org mode is my default mode and many buffers not necessarily part of
agenda
are open almost all the time. Will this command revert *all* Org  
buffers

or
only the ones part of org-agenda-files?


All of them.


I take it that it has to.  So far I haven't yet run into David's  
situation so
I guess I am fine for the moment.  But if I need to then I guess I  
will need
to remember to save (from agenda view, so that all Org buffers are  
saved)

before executing the git pull and revert command?


Yes.  The right way would be

1. save all org buffer

2. pull to get the merging right

3. revert the buffers.

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Re: [Orgmode] newbie - gnus links/split windows/breadcrumbs

2009-02-10 Thread Samuel Wales
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:02, Bill White bi...@wolfram.com wrote:
  - C-o on an external link to another file in my ~/org results in a
   split window with the target file at the bottom.  Is it possible to
   open targets in the same window?  When I follow a trail of links to
   separate files (homepage - project homepage with hundreds of
   projects for my manager to read - details of a single project) I'm
   left with a tiny window and have to do C-x 1 to clean things up.

It should respect pop-up-windows.

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Re: [Orgmode] Docs submitted (Was Re: Advice sought on managing decision alternatives.)

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Breton (Tehom)
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:
 [...]
 OK, I've add comments, keywords, and some docstrings I forgot to
 org-choose.el, and I wrote a standalone doc. Both are attached.

 This is very intriguing functionality.  I tried to follow your and
 Casten's
 earlier exchanges but could understand only a little.  So I tried to
 follow
 your tutorial but I am getting stuck at switching the `choosenness' of
 items.
 I get following error when I try to switch to any state from no state.
 Once
 I assign a state by typing it out manually (as opposed to using state
 switching commands), I can then switch between states but the error
 repeats
 when I try to switch to MAYBE state.

 ,
 | save-excursion: Symbol's function definition is void:
 outline-up-heading-all
 `

I couldn't reproduce this bug with your test file.

It seemed to have to do with loading, so I restarted emacs without
pre-loading org (ie, I commented it out of my .emacs).  I only found a
dependency on org-agenda, and once that was loaded, no more error.  So I
couldn't reproduce it.


 So far, my understaning is that only one item can be in YES state.  If I
 try
 to switch another item to YES then the existing YES will be demoted
 to MAYBE.

Right.

 So for a two-state choosenness only one item can be in CHOOSE
 state while all others will switch to NOT_CHOOSEN state.. is that
 understanding correct?

Hm, I didn't look at sets with just two states.  Now that I look at it,
yes, that works but not in the best way it could.  Because I never
contemplated 0 and - being properties of the same mark, it has to be
speced as something like:

#+CHOOSE_TODO: NO(n,-) YES(y,0)

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Re: [Orgmode] Docs submitted (Was Re: Advice sought on managing decision alternatives.)

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Breton (Tehom)
 With three choices for choosenness, it works as I expected (only one item
 in
 CHOSEN state at a time) but for more choices like:

 #+CHOOSE_TODO: REJECTED(r) NOT_CHOSEN(n,-) MAYBE(,0)
 LEANING_TOWARDS(l) CHOSEN(c,+)

 it allows multiple items to be in CHOSEN state.  How do we interpret that?

I couldn't reproduce this.  Is this on the same test file as before?

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Re: [Orgmode] Bug and feature request in HTML export

2009-02-10 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 10, 2009, at 10:06 PM, Rasmus Pank Roulund wrote:


Hello,
There seems to be a bug in HTML export.
I am using Org for making a (fancy) web site.
I define the top menu via a list which is made fancy via CSS.

The Org file looks like this:

   #+HTML: div id=topbar

 - [[file:index.org][Forside]]
 - [[file:eksempler.org][Eksempler]]

   #+HTML: /div


Org cannot know that you do want to end the list here, the HTML  
insertion might be part of the list.


I do not know how to fix this.


I also have a couple of feature request/bug reports for html export:

First: it would be nice if one could specify the location of the title
similar to the [TABLE-OF-CONTENTS] option. At the moment it seems to
always be placed in the top of the page, which might not be desirable.


It seems to me quite reasonable to put it at the top of the page.
Don't forget that Org is not a full HTML editor, it just tried to do
a good job at converting your file.

Second: I do not know if this is a feature, but * Heading (i.e. a  
first

level heading) is marked as a h2 heading. It should probably be
h1. At least one should be able to define it as a h1 heading.


See `org-export-html-toplevel-nlevel', and also see
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-customize.php


Third (bug): Sometimes links are rendered wrong:
[[http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/k/keynes/john_maynard/k44g/k44g.html 
]]
is rendered as a href=http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/k/keynes/john_maynard/k44g/k44g.html 
http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/k/keynes/johnsubmaynard/ 
sub/k44g/k44g.html/a

notice the sub-tags!


You do not have a recent version of Org-mode.  Please always
try the latest version before reporting bugs.


Forth: Sometimes it is desirable to be able to #+HTML in links and
titles. This is not possible.
For example:
#+TITLE:  #+HTML: span class=latexTsubE/subX/span
or
[[http://scripts.sil.org/xetex][
#+HTML: span class=latexXsub#398;/subTsube/subX/span
]]


This is not supported currently, and I am not sure we will get there.
For this specific case you will get away with

#+TITLE:@span class=latexT@subE@/subX@/span

However, if you need this much or more control, maybe Muse
will be a better option.

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[Orgmode] Re: Bug and feature request in HTML export

2009-02-10 Thread Rasmus Pank Roulund
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:

Hello,

 Org cannot know that you do want to end the list here, the HTML
 insertion might be part of the list.

 I do not know how to fix this.
I see your point. But if i have a lot of blank lines it probably should
not be included. Somehow one needs to signal to Org that this is not
part of the list. The most obvious signal seems to be a lot of blank
lines, or does that solution contain undesirable sideeffects?  

 It seems to me quite reasonable to put it at the top of the page.
Sure, but it might be useful to have the title several places on the
site. Sometimes it might be useful to place it elsewhere than the top.

 Don't forget that Org is not a full HTML editor, it just tried to do a
 good job at converting your file.

I know :-) But it is still the best HTML editor/parser I have used in
a looong time! The publish feature is fantanstic. Good job BTW!

 You do not have a recent version of Org-mode.  Please always try the
 latest version before reporting bugs.
I have 6.22b but the page had not been refreshed with the new
version. Sorry!

 This is not supported currently, and I am not sure we will get there.
Maybe one day :-)

 For this specific case you will get away with ...
Thanks! 

 However, if you need this much or more control, maybe Muse will be a
 better option.
Org rocks. 'Nuff said :-)

BTW: Is it possible make part of a word italicized. I.e. Ti/k/Z where
the 'k' is italicized?

Thanks for Org.
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Re: [Orgmode] Docs submitted (Was Re: Advice sought on managing decision alternatives.)

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Breton (Tehom)


 Hmm, not sure if I messed up there - so I fixed this bug.  Tom,
 please check if I did this right.

 - Carsten


Hi, Carsten.  I just looked at org-6.22b

You caught a problem, but I think it's a different bug.  I think there
are these different things:

 * What you saw, that it doesn't work at top level.  Good catch.  My
   code finds the groups of siblings via their parent.  If they have
   no parent, it doesn't work.  Doing that already generated an error
   deep in the guts of outline, but your way is better.  Let's keep
   your fix.
 * What Manish saw.  I can't reproduce this.  I suspect that it
   relates to outline somehow not being loaded, but org-choose
   requires org which requires outline.  I find a dependency on
   org-agenda from `org-map-entries' in org.el, and once I load that,
   it all works.

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Re: [Orgmode] HTML export: feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Richard Riley
Wanrong Lin wanrong@gmail.com writes:

 Hi,

 One problem I have with current HTML export is the section number
 (like 1, 2.1, 2.1.2 and etc) is not very distinctive from the
 actual section heading. Also, sometimes I wish the sub-section
 headings are indented. So I wonder whether we can add the following
 features:

 1. Assign a CSS class to the section number, so the section number
 font and color can be customized through CSS
 2. Add a variable to control whether sub-sections should be indented
 in the export, and by how much.

 Thank you for giving some thoughts on the above.

Similar on this subject, is there a reason ID numbers and classes are
not aligned? 

e.g

div class=outline-3 id=outline-container-1.1

is output. (6.18 trans with emacs 23)


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Bug and feature request in HTML export

2009-02-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Rasmus Pank Roulund rasmus.p...@gmail.com writes:

 Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:

 Hello,

 Org cannot know that you do want to end the list here, the HTML
 insertion might be part of the list.

 I do not know how to fix this.
 I see your point. But if i have a lot of blank lines it probably should
 not be included. Somehow one needs to signal to Org that this is not
 part of the list. The most obvious signal seems to be a lot of blank
 lines, or does that solution contain undesirable sideeffects?  


M-x customize-variable RET org-empty-line-terminates-plain-lists

will do what you need.


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Re: [Orgmode] Docs submitted (Was Re: Advice sought on managing decision alternatives.)

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Breton (Tehom)
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Feb 10, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Manish wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:
 [...]

 OK, I've add comments, keywords, and some docstrings I forgot to
 org-choose.el, and I wrote a standalone doc. Both are attached.

 This is very intriguing functionality. I tried to follow your and
 Casten's
 earlier exchanges but could understand only a little. So I tried to
 follow
 your tutorial but I am getting stuck at switching the `choosenness' of
 items.
 I get following error when I try to switch to any state from no
 state.
 Once
 I assign a state by typing it out manually (as opposed to using state
 switching commands), I can then switch between states but the error
 repeats
 when I try to switch to MAYBE state.

 ,
 | save-excursion: Symbol's function definition is void:
 outline-up-heading-all
 `

 Hmm, not sure if I messed up there - so I fixed this bug. Tom,
 please check if I did this right.

 This issue is gone for me.  Thanks.

 So far, my understaning is that only one item can be in YES state. If
 I
 try
 to switch another item to YES then the existing YES will be demoted
 to MAYBE. So for a two-state choosenness only one item can be in
 CHOOSE
 state while all others will switch to NOT_CHOOSEN state.. is that
 understanding correct?

 With three choices for choosenness, it works as I expected (only one item
 in
 CHOSEN state at a time) but for more choices like:

 #+CHOOSE_TODO: REJECTED(r) NOT_CHOSEN(n,-) MAYBE(,0)
 LEANING_TOWARDS(l) CHOSEN(c,+)

 it allows multiple items to be in CHOSEN state.  How do we interpret that?

Having fetched and set up 6.22b, I can now reproduce it.

This bug is simple.  In Setting it all up at the end of org-choose.el,
in 6.22b a quote got introduced before progn.  That's all.  With that
quote, it evaluated a quoted form and did nothing.  I'd send a patch,
but ISTM it's easier to just press backspace once.  It's here:

(eval-after-load 'org
  '(progn
;;^--HERE.
 (add-to-list 'org-todo-setup-filter-hook
  #'org-choose-setup-filter)
 (add-to-list 'org-todo-get-default-hook
  #'org-choose-get-default-mark)
 (add-to-list 'org-trigger-hook
  #'org-choose-keep-sensible)
 (add-to-list 'org-todo-interpretation-widgets
  '(:tag Choose   (to record decisions) choose)
  'append)
   ))





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Re: [Orgmode] HTML export: feature request

2009-02-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Wanrong Lin wanrong@gmail.com writes:

 Hi,

 One problem I have with current HTML export is the section number (like 1,
 2.1, 2.1.2 and etc) is not very distinctive from the actual section
 heading. Also, sometimes I wish the sub-section headings are indented. So I
 wonder whether we can add the following features:

 1. Assign a CSS class to the section number, so the section number font and
 color can be customized through CSS

That would be great indeed:

h2 id=sec-1span class=section-number-21/span Headline/h2
\/ ^  
   basename|
 level

 2. Add a variable to control whether sub-sections should be indented in the
 export, and by how much.

This is possible through CSS more easy and flexible (different projects,
different designs):

.outline-2 h2 {}

Ahh - Carsten, would it easy to add a new class here?


div id=outline-container-1 class=outline-2
h2 id=sec-11 blabla /h2
div class=outline-text-2 id=text-1
^
Here ---'
the 

We could the indent the text independently from the headline (or add
additional indentation to the sections body).


The appended patch does both of these. Add a class to the section
number, and a class to the container of the sections content.


Regards,

   Sebastian

diff --git a/lisp/org-exp.el b/lisp/org-exp.el
index 69ebdbc..4e5f2e5 100644
--- a/lisp/org-exp.el
+++ b/lisp/org-exp.el
@@ -4646,12 +4646,12 @@ When TITLE is nil, just close all open levels.
(insert ul\nli title br/\n
(aset org-levels-open (1- level) t)
(setq snumber (org-section-number level))
-   (if (and org-export-with-section-numbers (not body-only))
-   (setq title (concat snumber   title)))
(setq level (+ level org-export-html-toplevel-hlevel -1))
+   (if (and org-export-with-section-numbers (not body-only))
+   (setq title (concat span class=\section-number- (format %d level) \ snumber /span  title)))
(unless (= head-count 1) (insert \n/div\n))
-   (insert (format \ndiv id=\outline-container-%s\ class=\outline-%d\\nh%d id=\sec-%s\%s%s/h%d\ndiv id=\text-%s\\n
-   snumber level level snumber extra-targets title level snumber))
+   (insert (format \ndiv id=\outline-container-%s\ class=\outline-%d\\nh%d id=\sec-%s\%s%s/h%d\ndiv class=\online-text-
+   snumber level level snumber extra-targets title level level snumber))
(org-open-par)
 
 (defun org-get-text-property-any (pos prop optional object)
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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Jan Seeger jan.see...@thenybble.de writes:
 and C)
 
   This is the cleanest way to do it.
 
 #+ATTR_HTML: alt=an image id=mySpecialImmage
 [[./img/a.jpg] ]
 
 and use CSS.
 
 The problem is that I can't use CSS. I need to modify the HTML to
 insert an element which forces the outline-2 container to extend all
 the way down to the end of the image.

I do not understand what you mean by 'I can't use CSS'. You mean
external stylesheets?
If so, no problem. You may add several lines to the
export-options-template on top of the file:

#+STYLE: style type=text/css![CDATA[
#+STYLE: #mySpecialImage{border:1px solid black;border-spacing:10px;...}


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[Orgmode] Slight fix to update-org.sh

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Breton (Tehom)
While updating to 6.22b, I remembered this:

I like pete's update-org.sh.  It's convenient when you haven't got git
(I'll get around to getting git someday, but it's not high priority)

It had a bit of a problem because my org directory wasn't a subdirectory
of my build directory.  I made some minor changes to make it do that and
to gunzip the archive.  I've attached it to this message.

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Re: [Orgmode] Adding HTML into exported files

2009-02-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
 Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:
 It is documented here:

 http://orgmode.org/manual/Links.html#Links

 Is this not the right place?


The export section seems a good place actually. I just forgot, that
images and links share a common syntax.

Now, as I read this, I see that links and images are mentioned in the
same subsection (I think they were when I read the manual last spring).

I didn't read through the manual for a long time :) Just looked up
things quickly. I didn't find it in there. It was easy to find in the
`List of user visible chages' using

   `o image RET' ;-)




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[Orgmode] How to backup the DONE items?

2009-02-10 Thread Feng Zhou
Hello, all
   I am using org mode, but as time goes on, my org file becomes
larger and larger. So, I want to move all the DONE and Archived items
to another file (preferably with a copy of the headers that contain
them for reference), but I don't know how to do this.  Any help on
this? Thank you.

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Re: [Orgmode] How to backup the DONE items?

2009-02-10 Thread Sebastian Rose
Hi Feng,


look here:

http://orgmode.org/manual/Archiving.html#Archiving

It's not too much to read and easy to follow.

 Regards,

Sebastian

Feng Zhou fengzho...@gmail.com writes:
 Hello, all
I am using org mode, but as time goes on, my org file becomes
 larger and larger. So, I want to move all the DONE and Archived items
 to another file (preferably with a copy of the headers that contain
 them for reference), but I don't know how to do this.  Any help on
 this? Thank you.

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[Orgmode] outline-agenda sorting consistency

2009-02-10 Thread Samuel Wales
Here are some possible ways that the outline and the agenda
could be made slightly more consistent.  Hope I didn't miss
any that already exist.

  1) priority faces are settable in the agenda.  perhaps
 they could be so in the outline also.
  2) sorting strategy is settable in the agenda.  perhaps it
 could be settable in the outline also.  they could
 share code.

 also:

 * priorities are sortable.  perhaps tags can be
   sortable via a default (built-in) sorting strategy
   also.

   to set the weights, the user configures as follows.
   nil means that tag sorting does nothing.

   ;;urgent gets sorted highest (or lowest, depending on
   ;;perspective).  this is very useful for people who
   ;;have some ordered tags.
   (setq org-tag-sort-weights
 '((urgent . 1000)
   (now . 100)
   ;;below no tag
   (someday . -100))

   ;;nutrition is more important than entertainment
   (nutrition . 100)
   (entertainment . -100))
 * todo states are sortable.  perhaps they can be
   sortable in such a way that the user can put blank
   entries (no todo state) as desired (e.g. between TODO
   and DONE).  perhaps a variable to set the weights.

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[Orgmode] Re: minor option conflict

2009-02-10 Thread Samuel Wales
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 15:10, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote:
 I can't reproduce this either.

I think you can now.

Do c-c c on a headline to reproduce.

Fairly minimal org file:

#+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) WAIT(w!) | DONE(d!)

* sss
* sss

Fairly minimal .emacs:

(require 'cl)

(defun alpha-add-path (p) (setq load-path (cons p load-path)))

(alpha-add-path (concat (getenv delorgsrc) /lisp))
(alpha-add-path (concat (getenv delpkgbef) /remember))

(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '(\\.org$ . org-mode))

(defvar alpha-mac-font
  -apple-courier-medium-r-normal--24-240-72-72-m-240-iso10646-1)
'(progn
  (progn
(defconst alpha-mac-font-2
  -apple-courier-medium-r-normal--*-*-*-*-*-240-*)
(set-frame-font alpha-mac-font-2))
  )
(set-frame-font alpha-mac-font)

;;it seems to me that i never want blank lines ending a body
;;;(setf org-cycle-separator-lines 0)
(setf org-cycle-separator-lines 1)
;;keep body indentation intact when promoting and demoting
(setf org-adapt-indentation nil)

;;very strange.  this gets overridden with time?
;;;(setq org-log-done t)
(setq org-log-done 'time)

(require 'org-install)

(defvar alpha-org-map (make-sparse-keymap alpha org map))
(define-key global-map [f8] alpha-org-map)
(define-key alpha-org-map [f8] 'org-remember) ;c-c r
(define-key alpha-org-map o 'org-open-at-point-global) ;c-c o

(require 'remember-autoloads)
(org-remember-insinuate)

;;http://mail.google.com/mail/x
(setf org-file-apps
  '(
;;(auto-mode . emacs)
;;(\\.x?html?\\' . default)
;;(\\.pdf\\' . default)
(t . emacs)))

(define-key org-mode-map \C-cc (lambda () (interactive) (org-todo WAIT)))


 -Bernt


 Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:

 Hi Samuel,

 I cannot reproduce this.

 - Carsten

 On Feb 6, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:

 With org-log-done set to t or 'time and
 org-cycle-separator-lines set to 0 or 1, on a node with no
 body, org-done inserts a time log item with a blank line after
 it.  This causes the blank line to show in the collapsed
 outline.

 Perhaps org-done could check for the presence of a body
 before deciding to insert a blank line.

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[Orgmode] grouped undo

2009-02-10 Thread Nicholas Sandow

Hi,

I've noticed that in org-mode, undo undoes one character at a time.

Normally in Emacs, undo is done in chunks.  To quote from the manual:

Usually each editing command makes a separate entry in the undo  
records, but some commands such as `query-replace' divide their  
changes into multiple entries for flexibility in undoing.   
Meanwhile, self-inserting characters are usually grouped to make  
undoing less tedious.


So to undo a sentence that you've typed in, only a few undos are  
required.  In org-mode, though, it seems self-inserting characters  
aren't grouped, and my undos are thus more tedious.


Is this a feature or a bug?  I like the grouped undo feature.

In outline mode, the undo is still grouped, so it seems this is an  
undo-specific thing.  I am running version 6.22b


Thanks,
Nick


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