Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode Mercurial mirror on Bitbucket

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Greg Newman wrote:

I've had my friends over at Bitbucket.org create a org-mode mirror  
of the git repo for me (and anyone who prefers Mercurial) to pull  
from.

This repo is updated every hour against the git repository.

http://bitbucket.org/mirror/org-mode/

Carsten, I hope you don't mind.


Of course not.

- Carsten

 It is read only.  If it's a problem I'll be happy to tell them to  
take it down.


Cheers,


Greg Newman
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[Orgmode] Defaults for Org variables

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik

In a different thread, Sebastian Rose writes:


Footnotes:

[1] We should discuss this in an extra thread: make log-into-drawer  
and

   clocking the default and just have it turned on (is it the
   default??). It's sooo useful.  And I'm sure, Alice would simply
   enjoy it (without any customization !!!).


I am always open to discuss new defaults for variables.  However,
let me tell you my motivation for this specific case.

While I agree that it is extremely useful to get notes and clocking
into drawers,  this is a feature that is quite magical for a new
user and maybe hard to understand.  I mean, you clock in an nothing
happens - sort of.  This is why I felt it is better to just have
this stuff plainly visible in the buffer when Org comes out of
the box.

But I can always be convinced otherwise.  Comments on this and any
other variables are welcome in this thread.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Bastien
Hi Ethan,

Ethan ethan.glasser.c...@gmail.com writes:

 I've been studying org-mode for a few months now, and I think I'm finally
 getting the hang of it. It's really overwhelming, and I really appreciate the
 efforts that must have gone into the manual and the worg project. But I think
 it still needs work.

needs is the wrong word here.  might enjoy would be better.  Because
Org comes with no warranty or customer service or whatsoever :)

 In my opinion, the documentation doesn't explore the interactions well
 enough, it doesn't present the tools in an order that is conducive to
 learning, and it never explains why you might choose one option of
 tool instead of another.

The manual is a reference.  It's here so that people can refer to it
when they write tutorials or when they send answers to the mailing list.

This is not to say that the manual is perfect, but as you guess, Carsten
has been incrementally working on it -- suggestions which incrementally
improve it will enjoy a warmer welcome than incentives to rewrite it...
(= patch welcome!)

On top of that, exploring the interactions between all Org concepts is
beyond the goals of the manual and that's why Worg exists as a community
project.

 Another good example is TODO keywords, categories, and tags. It isn't clear
 what they all are, or why they are distinct, or what the differences are, and
 it's easy to confuse them with similarly-named but completely distinct 
 concepts
 like properties.

The manual might enjoy a glossary.  ;)

I have created org-glossary.org on Worg, please check it out and add
your own definitions: http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git

 In other words, to really understand the manual, you have to read it twice --
 once to hear about all the concepts, and once more to see how they
 relate. 

The other way is to start using Org very spontaneously and just fetch
documentation when you feel the need of it.  This is how I do and it
works well enough.

 I feel like it would have been a lot easier for me to
 start using it if I had started with a tutorial that explained a single
 workflow and how org-mode supported it

Your next contribution?

 I wish I could offer more concrete improvements in the form of patches and so
 on! Maybe as I learn more about org-mode I can do this too, but I wanted to
 offer this criticism while it was still fresh in my mind.

:)  I guess the other way around is also useful: share the criticism
when the fresh impression vanished, and the core of it remains.

 Thanks for everything!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'm sure positive improvements will
follow.  

best,

-- 
 Bastien


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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Bastien
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Documentation is not such an easy thing to do and a lot of work, too. A
 tutorial _is_ missing. We had some discussions here about that, but no
 one got around to it. I think about it every so often, but writing a
 tutorial is such a big thing to do.

I'm a go player.  The best book I've read so far is Lessons in the
fundamental of Go -- check it here:

  http://www.librarything.fr/work/151625

The nice thing about this book is that it's a dialog better two players,
and they learn from each other.

I would love to see a dialog between two org-ers, exchanging on how they
progressively adapt Org to their needs or any other topics.  This could
actually be a bit more fun to write, and I'm sure the result would be
useful. 

Who's in?  

-- 
 Bastien


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[Orgmode] indentation problem

2009-09-16 Thread Rainer Stengele
I have a minor indentation quirk:

 STARTED [#A] whatever
 SCHEDULED: 2009-09-14 Mo
 :LOGBOOK:
 CLOCK: [2009-08-24 Mo 15:25]--[2009-08-24 Mo 16:00] =  0:35
 CLOCK: [2009-08-21 Fr 10:05]--[2009-08-21 Fr 13:05] =  3:00
 CLOCK: [2009-08-20 Do 16:05]--[2009-08-20 Do 18:05] =  2:00
 CLOCK: [2009-08-20 Do 10:30]--[2009-08-20 Do 15:34] =  5:04
 CLOCK: [2009-08-18 Di 09:27]--[2009-08-18 Di 10:50] =  1:23
 CLOCK: [2009-08-04 Di 15:44]--[2009-08-04 Di 16:02] =  0:18
 CLOCK: [2009-08-03 Mo 10:57]--[2009-08-03 Mo 10:59] =  0:02
 CLOCK: [2009-07-30 Do 10:20]--[2009-07-30 Do 11:35] =  1:15
  :END:
  created: [2009-06-23 Di 10:20]
 - some text
...

Orgmode does not allow to indent the :END: symbol correctly.
Indenting the while block beginning from the headline down to :END: does not 
change anything here.

Is this a (minor) bug?

Ahh - putting the block in a separate file does the correct indentation.
But why? Is the indentation mechnism dependant on the previous blocks?

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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Bastien
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Here is some kind of outline for such a tutorial.

Wow.  That an outline for a full book!  

And I guess that's what comes at the horizon: an (O-Reilly) book about
Org-mode.  It would not compete with the manual as a reference, but it
would make it easier to more people to open Org's doors.

-- 
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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Greg Newman
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:


 I would love to see a dialog between two org-ers, exchanging on how they
 progressively adapt Org to their needs or any other topics.  This could
 actually be a bit more fun to write, and I'm sure the result would be
 useful.

 Who's in?


+1 -- I'd love to see this too!




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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread timetrap
Configuration through dialectic. I like it.

Why not start a thread, and have an experienced user teach a newbie
how to get this org-mode thing working.

The only portion of the thread that would be published would be from
the two users, and the rest of the list could inject comments into the
thread as the users go about the business of building a config.

I'll be the newbie. We are good for something after all.

-Joseph Kern

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Greg Newman g...@20seven.org wrote:


 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:


 I would love to see a dialog between two org-ers, exchanging on how they
 progressively adapt Org to their needs or any other topics.  This could
 actually be a bit more fun to write, and I'm sure the result would be
 useful.

 Who's in?

 +1 -- I'd love to see this too!


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[Orgmode] Re: LaTeX export bugs?

2009-09-16 Thread Francesco Pizzolante
Hi Carsten,

 indeed, it looks like I did make a mistake when recently trying to fix  
 this.
 
 I believe I have got it right this time (current git version), please  
 verify.

It works perfectly now.

Thanks!

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[Orgmode] Re: Bug (?): Columnview in emacsclient broken?

2009-09-16 Thread Maurice Boucher
Hello org-moders,

Memnon Anon gegendosenflei...@googlemail.com disait le 15/09/2009 que :

 Ein Bild sagt mehr als tausend Worte ;)
 
 Hi!

 I am having trouble using column view in an emacsclient (X11) session.
 Here are screenshots of what happens:

 The outline:
 http://www.box.net/shared/lamexveohc

 The outline when Columnview is active:
 http://www.box.net/shared/33rbasmk25
 [View with browser, wget does not work :(]

 I searched the list archive, but the only reported problem afaics that 
 might be related is in this thread: 
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/9661/focus=9699

 There seems to be nothing in my setup causing this behaviour ...
 I append the sample outline for a quick test, does anyone else see this
 problem?

I have the same problem in emacsclient (X) after I started a server in
Screen session (emacs -nw), but columns view works fine with emacsclient
in console (-t option) and with emacs alone in X.

I read the thread reported above in your post, and I decided to start an
emacs server like daemon (emacs --daemon) and now columns in emacslient
under X are Ok. I have no explanation.

emacs 23.1.50.1 modified by Debian
org-mode 6.30trans

Maurice
  




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[Orgmode] Re: Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Bernt Hansen
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes:

 Ethan ethan.glasser.c...@gmail.com writes:

 Reading HOWTO's like Bernt Hansen's and Charles Cave's are really
 interesting to see how people work, but even documents like these don't
 explain *why* they set things up in this way. For example, Bernt
 Hansen's document explains that his toplevel headings are main
 categories, and shows that they each have a CATEGORY property, but
 doesn't explain what that buys him, or what problem that solves.

 My guess is that this allows him to see what group an item belongs to in
 the agenda view, since categories are listed in the left column.

That's correct.  The category only shows up in my agenda in the left
column and gives me instant access to what this task is related to.  I
usually specify a shorter category name than the filename just to keep
the agenda compact.  My todo.org file has multiple categories since it's
a mishmash of personal stuff.

I use filtering to limit the displayed tasks but the category is a
useful piece of information on the agenda.  I don't use category for
anything else.

I guess the problem it solves is if I have two identical tasks in
separate categories that both show up in the agenda then I can tell
which is which -- but that doesn't happen often.  I clock in tasks from
the agenda so knowing which is which is important.  Invoicing and
Archive Tasks is one example since I carry one of those for every
client (which are in separate files and separate categories).

-Bernt


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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Jean-Marie Gaillourdet

Am 16.09.09 11:46, schrieb Bastien:
 Sebastian Rosesebastian_r...@gmx.de  writes:

 Documentation is not such an easy thing to do and a lot of work, too. A
 tutorial _is_ missing. We had some discussions here about that, but no
 one got around to it. I think about it every so often, but writing a
 tutorial is such a big thing to do.

 I'm a go player.  The best book I've read so far is Lessons in the
 fundamental of Go -- check it here:

http://www.librarything.fr/work/151625

 The nice thing about this book is that it's a dialog better two players,
 and they learn from each other.

Another interesting source for inspiration might be the tutorials of the 
TikZ/PGF Manual. 
http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pgf/base/doc/generic/pgf/pgfmanual.pdf 
page 20 till 54


These tutorials are a nice contrast to the huge amount of reference 
material available in the rest of the tikz manual.


Just my 2cents

Regards,
-- Jean-Marie


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[Orgmode] Re: Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Matt Lundin
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Ethan ethan.glasser.c...@gmail.com writes:
 Hi guys,

 Documentation is not such an easy thing to do and a lot of work, too. A
 tutorial _is_ missing. We had some discussions here about that, but no
 one got around to it. I think about it every so often, but writing a
 tutorial is such a big thing to do.

 Personally, I think that one or two fictive characters would fit
 best. People, simply using Org-mode to take notes, plan, publish and so
 on.

 The entire thing should start _very_ simple and without any
 customization at all. I see customization in chapter 15 - no earlier
 really unless unavoidable.

Great ideas here and in the outline! Before we dive into creating a new
tutorial, we might want to use David O'Toole's venerable tutorial as a
point of reference. Rereading it today, it's remarkable how none of the
core principles of org-mode have changed despite so much development:

  - http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/orgtutorial_dto.php

We might also take a look at the beginner's customization guide:

  - http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-guide.php

What needs to be updated there? What's missing?

I do like how org currently places Bernt's and Charles's tutorials under
a power users section, to distinguish them from basic tutorials. They
are examples of how two seasoned org-mode users take advantage of the
variety of features that org offers.

Would it be safe to say, though, that org-mode has since grown so
powerful and feature-rich that its many options can now overwhelm new
users, despite its core simplicity? What I hear in Ethan's original post
and in many recent mailing list posts is a request for help sorting out
the essentials from the optional features depending on use-scenarios.

An example: It seems that a new user, inspired by the many excellent
tutorials on remember, might be tempted to use remember to enter
*everything* in their org-files (with dozens of complex remember
templates). But in many instances, it may be faster and more convenient
to enter things directly into the outline.

I think what we're dealing with is the paradox of choice. Too many
options can paralyze/overwhelm a user. For instance, while archiving is
a straightforward feature, it's easy to get hung up on the fact that
there are three separate types of archiving, which gives rise to
uncertainty about which to use and when to use it, or perhaps even a
sense that one *must* understand and use all of them just because they
all exist.

With that in mind, we might add sections to the tutorial/book structured
around various use scenarios: 

 - If you're outlining/writing an book, here are some of the
   features that might be useful.

 - If you want a basic GTD system, here are a few ways you might do it.

 - If you want to use org for sophisticated project management and
   clocking, here are some of the things you might use find useful.

 - If you're researching a book... 

 - If you want to keep track of interesting bookmarks on the web...

 - If you want to publish documents for your co-workers...

Alternatively, we might move through the tutorial/dialogue feature by
feature:

 - What in the world are drawers? Why would I want to use those?

 - Etc.

Just a few ideas.

Best,
Matt






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[Orgmode] The requested URL /worg/images/screenshots/org-zenburn.jpg was not found on this server.

2009-09-16 Thread Rainer Stengele
a minor bug ...

The requested URL /worg/images/screenshots/org-zenburn.jpg was not found on 
this server.

I think I cannot fix that myself ...


Rainer



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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Peter Frings


On 16 Sep 2009, at 14:17, Jean-Marie Gaillourdet wrote:

Another interesting source for inspiration might be the tutorials of  
the TikZ/PGF Manual. http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/graphics/pgf/base/doc/generic/pgf/pgfmanual.pdf 
 page 20 till 54


I agree, the tikz manual is really good.

Another well done piece of documentation (and a superb program as  
well) is that of lilypond: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/index


Some people have spent a *lot* of their time on that. Chapeau!


I agree that org-mode could use gentler documentation, but I think  
that is by itself a tremendous chore. And then to keep up with all the  
improvements that Carsten et all produce at an almost daily rate...


Cheers,
Peter.


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Re: [Orgmode] Defaults for Org variables

2009-09-16 Thread Sebastian Rose
Carsten Dominik domi...@uva.nl writes:
 In a different thread, Sebastian Rose writes:

 Footnotes:

 [1] We should discuss this in an extra thread: make log-into-drawer and
clocking the default and just have it turned on (is it the
default??). It's sooo useful.  And I'm sure, Alice would simply
enjoy it (without any customization !!!).

 I am always open to discuss new defaults for variables.  However,
 let me tell you my motivation for this specific case.

 While I agree that it is extremely useful to get notes and clocking
 into drawers,  this is a feature that is quite magical for a new
 user and maybe hard to understand.  I mean, you clock in an nothing
 happens - sort of.  This is why I felt it is better to just have
 this stuff plainly visible in the buffer when Org comes out of
 the box.

Hmm - I see.

You're talking about drawers only. Is the clocking feature on by
default? I still have this function in my setup:

  
 (defun sr-org-todo-state-toggled()
  Start the clock, if the state of a todo item changes to 'STARTED'.
  (if(string= STARTED state)
  (org-clock-in)
(org-clock-out-if-current)))

 (setq org-after-todo-state-change-hook 'sr-org-todo-state-toggled)


There is some guidance, actually more than most of the other modes
provide. The user can access the clocked task (and clock out) simply
through the modeline menu.  That modeline entry seems to be on by
default, as I can't find anything about it in my setup.

Once clocked in, the user is prompted, if she wants to clock out when
exiting Emacs.


I have to admit, that I'm not aware of the defaults anymore (didn't use
them since a year or so). I'll have to create another user on my system,
to check :)



   Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Sebastian Rose
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Here is some kind of outline for such a tutorial.

 Wow.  That an outline for a full book!  

 And I guess that's what comes at the horizon: an (O-Reilly) book about
 Org-mode.  It would not compete with the manual as a reference, but it
 would make it easier to more people to open Org's doors.


OK, let's just start it. I'd like to have the tutorial on
orgmode.org/worg. But I'm not yet sure about the structure.


Option (A)
  is, to create an .../worg/the-org-tutorial/index.org, that just
  contains an index to the chapters. Each chapter goes to a single file
  in that directory.

Option (B)
  Put the entire thing into one big file. This has the advantage, that
  we wouldn't need to create any extra directories on worg:
  orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/the-org-tutorial.org


  || (A) Multiple files | (B) Monolitic |
  |++---|
  | Outlining a skeleton   | -  | + |
  | Restructure| -  | + |
  | Multiple editors   | +  | - |
  | Distribution (e.g. as PDF) | -  | + |
  | Easy navigation| +  | - |
  |++---|
  | Sum| -1 | +1|



Thoughts?



BTW: The first user in the tutorial is called Allice. I wanted to call
her Trillian, but I'm afraid, people would let her add tasks, that are
not easily understood :-D

The readers are supposed to use their brain to understand Org-mode...



  Sebastian


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[Orgmode] org-babel, src blocks and asymptote

2009-09-16 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello,

Org-babel looks very interesting. I am pleased to see an asymptote
module included in it. While testing it, I think I found 2 problems :


To activate the asymptote module, you have to begin the source block,
for example, with
#+begin_src asymptote :file bezier.pdf

Unfortunately, the major mode used to edit asymptote code is named
asy-mode. This leads to the following error when you edit the block
with C-c ' : no such language mode: asymptote-mode.

Perhaps that module should be named org-babel-asy ?


The second problem, related to Org Src handling, is that the code is
put in a temporary buffer. I don't know about other languages, but,
in asy-mode, you can't compile code while in that kind of buffer.
This can be quite problematic in a language oriented towards
graphics, as you need to often make previews of your work.

In other words, is there an option to associate a temporary file to
the process (even in a per-language basis) instead of a buffer ? Or do I
have to mess with org-src-mode-hook to try to fix it ?


Regards,

--
Nicolas Goaziou



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Re: [Orgmode] Problem with quoting in #+BEGIN blocks

2009-09-16 Thread Roman Geus
Hi Carsten

Thanks for your helpful comments. It works fine now.

Regards,
Roman

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Carsten Dominik
carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Roman Geus wrote:

 Hello

 I'm fairly new to org-mode, and I am surprised about the quoting
 behavior in #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE blocks:

 The following org file, results in two level 1 titles (* ASCII report
 and * Part 1) when the file is reopened in emacs.

 * ASCII report
 #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE

 *
 * Part 1

 *
 bla, bla, bla
 #END_EXAMPLE

 I expected * Part 1 to be interpreted as ordinary text.

 Hi Roman,

 first of all, it is #+END_EXAMPLE, not #END_EXAMPLE

 For export it then works fine.  To avoid the interpretation of
 * Part 1 as a headline inside Org-mode, quote it like this:

 #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
 ,*
 ,* Part 1
 ,*
 bla, bla, bla
 #+END_EXAMPLE

 If you use C-c ' to edit snippets like this, the quoting is automatic.

 HTH

 - Carsten


 Is this working as intended?

 Thanks and regards,
 Roman Geus

 PS: I'm using org-mode 6.30 on GNU emacs 22.2.1 (Linux)


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[Orgmode] error in org-remember

2009-09-16 Thread Xin Shi
Hello Experts,

I recently update my Emacs to 23.1 and the org-mode to 6.30e.  Then I
noticed my org-remember is not working. When I type C-c C-c, I got the
following error:

Target files for notes must be in Org-mode if not filing to top/bottom

My settings are:

(org-remember-insinuate)
(setq sx-notes-file-name ~/.notes.org)
(setq sx-journal-file-name ~/.journal.org)
(setq org-remember-templates
  '(
(Journal ?j * %U %?\n\n  %i\n  %a sx-journal-file-name)
(Notes ?n * %^{Title}\n  %i\n  %a sx-notes-file-name Notes)
)
  )
Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Xin
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[Orgmode] Re: error in org-remember

2009-09-16 Thread Xin Shi
I solved the problem by using the file name directly:

(setq org-remember-templates
  '(
(Journal ?j * %U %?\n\n  %i\n  %a ~/.journal.org)
(Notes ?n * %^{Title}\n  %i\n  %a ~/.notes.org Notes)
)
  )

Xin

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Xin Shi shixin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Experts,

 I recently update my Emacs to 23.1 and the org-mode to 6.30e.  Then I
 noticed my org-remember is not working. When I type C-c C-c, I got the
 following error:

 Target files for notes must be in Org-mode if not filing to top/bottom

 My settings are:

 (org-remember-insinuate)
 (setq sx-notes-file-name ~/.notes.org)
 (setq sx-journal-file-name ~/.journal.org)
 (setq org-remember-templates
   '(
 (Journal ?j * %U %?\n\n  %i\n  %a sx-journal-file-name)
 (Notes ?n * %^{Title}\n  %i\n  %a sx-notes-file-name Notes)
 )
   )
 Any suggestions?

 Thanks!
 Xin


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Re: [Orgmode] I need help about org-mode with auto-fill-mode

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Meteor Liu wrote:


Hello,

I used auto-fill-mode in org-mode.
for turn off TeX-like syntax, I add #+OPTIONS: ^:nil to the head.

I input some words, for example, test test test ..,
when the length over fill-column, the second line becomes
#test test ..., I don't want get the #.
Any suggestions?


Yes. Do not set `comment-start'

- Carsten



I use emacs23.1 and org-mode 6.21b in Windows XP.

Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode Mercurial mirror on Bitbucket

2009-09-16 Thread Greg Newman
Bastien,The description has been updated to read Mirror of the org-mode git
repository located at http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git, visit
http://orgmode.org/ for more information.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Greg Newman g...@20seven.org writes:

  I've had my friends over at Bitbucket.org create a org-mode mirror of the
  git repo for me (and anyone who prefers Mercurial) to pull from.This repo
 is
  updated every hour against the git repository.
 
  http://bitbucket.org/mirror/org-mode/

 I think it is useful.  Perhaps people using this repo should be advised
 to create patches preferrably against the git repo?  At least a link to
 the official repo would be nice.

 Thanks!

 --
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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode Mercurial mirror on Bitbucket

2009-09-16 Thread Greg Newman
Don't thank me, thank the great guys at Bitbucket. :)

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Greg Newman g...@20seven.org writes:

  The description has been updated to read Mirror of the org-mode git
  repository located at http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git,
  visit http://orgmode.org/ for more information.

 Thank you!

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[Orgmode] Re: Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Ethan
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:

 My guess is that this allows him to see what group an item belongs to in
 the agenda view, since categories are listed in the left column.

 But this is like asking why someone puts their pots in the cupboard next
 to the oven rather than above the sink, or why someone uses legal pads
 rather than a spiral notebook.


And if you were setting up a kitchen for the first time, wouldn't you ask
that kind of question? :)


 My recommendation: Just start creating trees, use only a few TODO
 states, and allow the organization to evolve in the way that feels the
 most comfortable to you.


At the time of this writing, I've stumbled because I have had one file
called TODO which is becoming too cluttered for me to process usefully. I
used C-c C-v to show only TODO items, but some TODO items have ellipses
indicating content while some have ellipses indicating DONE items
afterwards, so I end up expanding a bunch of DONE items. I have a TODO state
called BLOCKING which clutters the view too. I have a vague sense that
learning how to use the agenda would help, but I haven't gotten to it yet,
since I've been trying to put together a coherent org-mode setup by
cargo-culting things from the advanced users' setups. This probably isn't
the best way to go about it, of course..

I thought org-mode level 1 was pretty easy to learn -- but I'm really
struggling to get to level 2.

Ethan
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: error in org-remember

2009-09-16 Thread Nick Dokos
Xin Shi shixin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Xin Shi shixin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  ...
  My settings are:
 
  (org-remember-insinuate)
  (setq sx-notes-file-name ~/.notes.org)
  (setq sx-journal-file-name ~/.journal.org)
  (setq org-remember-templates
'(
  (Journal ?j * %U %?\n\n  %i\n  %a sx-journal-file-name)
  (Notes ?n * %^{Title}\n  %i\n  %a sx-notes-file-name Notes)
  )
)
  Any suggestions?
 
 I solved the problem by using the file name directly:
 
 (setq org-remember-templates
   '(
 (Journal ?j * %U %?\n\n  %i\n  %a ~/.journal.org)
 (Notes ?n * %^{Title}\n  %i\n  %a ~/.notes.org Notes)
 )
   )

Alternatively, you can use the backquote mechanism in such situations - it
allows you to evaluate parts of a (back)quoted expression, by preceding them
with commas:

(setq sx-notes-file-name ~/.notes.org)
(setq sx-journal-file-name ~/.journal.org)
(setq org-remember-templates
  `(
(Journal ?j * %U %?\n\n  %i\n  %a ,sx-journal-file-name)
(Notes ?n * %^{Title}\n  %i\n  %a ,sx-notes-file-name Notes)
   ))

See

  
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Backquote.html#Backquote

for details.

HTH,
Nick


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[Orgmode] Re: Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Matt Lundin
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
 Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Here is some kind of outline for such a tutorial.

 Wow.  That an outline for a full book!  

 And I guess that's what comes at the horizon: an (O-Reilly) book about
 Org-mode.  It would not compete with the manual as a reference, but it
 would make it easier to more people to open Org's doors.


 OK, let's just start it. I'd like to have the tutorial on
 orgmode.org/worg. But I'm not yet sure about the structure.


 Option (A)
   is, to create an .../worg/the-org-tutorial/index.org, that just
   contains an index to the chapters. Each chapter goes to a single file
   in that directory.

 Option (B)
   Put the entire thing into one big file. This has the advantage, that
   we wouldn't need to create any extra directories on worg:
   orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/the-org-tutorial.org


   || (A) Multiple files | (B) Monolitic |
   |++---|
   | Outlining a skeleton   | -  | + |
   | Restructure| -  | + |
   | Multiple editors   | +  | - |
   | Distribution (e.g. as PDF) | -  | + |
   | Easy navigation| +  | - |
   |++---|
   | Sum| -1 | +1|



 Thoughts?

My vote would be for separate files that could also be published as a
monolithic pdf file. I know the possibility of publishing multiple files
as a single book exists in muse, but how would one do that with
org-mode? Is there a directive to publish separate html files and a
monolithic pdf file simultaneously (perhaps via #+INCLUDE directives)?

- Matt


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[Orgmode] org-export-as-freemind writes *.mm files that freemind (0.8.1) cannot read

2009-09-16 Thread Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
Hi!

I wanted to get a different view on my document so I thought I'll try
the freemind export.

Unfortunately when I try to open a document exported from org to
freemind I either just get a window An error occured while trying to
open..., or I get nothing at all and lots of Java backtraces in the
console.

If anyone wants to debug this, I can provide the backtraces and more
information. Otherwise feel free to just ignore this mail ;) (Yay for
non-actionable things...)

Kind regards
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[Orgmode] Org-mode version 6.30trans (release_6.30d.822.g738ba); Many DONE items missing from agenda view

2009-09-16 Thread Paul Mead
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See

 http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.


If I do an agenda list of all TODO items, then show all DONE todos
(C-a t 4 r) not all my DONE items are shown. The same is true if I use
C-a T DONE ret. In particular many of the items under my 'Todos'
heading are missing - I use categories for many of my level 1 headings
so I can see some context information in the agenda view.

This has been a niggling problem for many versions, but I first
noticed it when bulk operations were introduced - that's only
significant because I want to use that to archive all completed todos
under that heading.

Any ideas?

Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.0.96.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2009-07-09 on SOFT-MJASON
Package: Org-mode version 6.30trans (release_6.30d.822.g738ba)

current state:
==
(setq
 org-log-done t
 org-clock-in-switch-to-state STARTED
 org-special-ctrl-a/e t
 org-agenda-custom-commands '((a Custom block Agenda ((agenda )
(todo STARTED
 org-agenda-files '(~/My Dropbox/.gtd/training.org
~/My Dropbox/.gtd/suppliers/btc/btc-srm.org
~/My Dropbox/.gtd/gtd.org
~/My Dropbox/.gtd/notes.org ~/My
Dropbox/.gtd/recurring.org)
 org-agenda-include-diary t
 org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-children-or-siblings-or-parent)
 org-export-latex-list-parameters '(:cbon \\texttt{[ ]} :cboff
\\texttt{[ ]})
 org-agenda-tags-column 120
 org-hide-leading-stars t
 org-clock-into-drawer nil
 org-agenda-skip-timestamp-if-done t
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled t
 org-agenda-skip-unavailable-files t
 org-goto-interface 'outline-path-completion
 org-agenda-start-with-log-mode t
 org-special-ctrl-k t
 org-agenda-prefix-format '((agenda .   %-20:c%?-12t% s) (timeline .   % s)
(todo .   %-20:c) (tags .   %-20:c)
(search .   %-20:c))
 org-agenda-todo-keyword-format %-10s
 org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
 org-stuck-projects '(+LEVEL=2-someday/-DONE (TODO STARTED
AGENDA) () )
 org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
 org-tags-exclude-from-inheritance '(project)
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-clock-persist t
 org-todo-keywords '((sequence TODO(t@/!) STARTED(s/!)
WAITING(w@/!) | DONE(d/!)
  CANCELLED(x@/!))
 (sequence | PROJECT(P) TASK(T) SOMEDAY(s)
COMPLETE(C)))
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-default-notes-file ~/My Dropbox/.gtd/notes.org
 org-directory ~:/My Dropbox/.gtd/
 org-tag-alist '((:startgroup) (phone . 116) (online . 119) (pc
. 99) (reading . 114)
 (penpaper . 112) (@office . 111) (@home . 104)
(@errand . 101)
 (project . 80) (:endgroup))
 org-blank-before-new-entry '((heading) (plain-list-item))
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
  org-cycle-show-empty-lines
org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-export-latex-classes '((article

\\documentclass[11pt]{article}\n\\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\n\\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\n\\usepackage{graphicx}\n\\usepackage{longtable}\n\\usepackage{hyperref}
 (\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
 (\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
 (\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s})
 (\\paragraph{%s} . \\paragraph*{%s})
 (\\subparagraph{%s} . \\subparagraph*{%s}))
(report

\\documentclass[11pt]{report}\n\\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\n\\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\n\\usepackage{graphicx}\n\\usepackage{longtable}\n\\usepackage{hyperref}
 (\\part{%s} . \\part*{%s})
 (\\chapter{%s} . \\chapter*{%s})
 (\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
 (\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
 (\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s}))
(book

\\documentclass[11pt]{book}\n\\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}\n\\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}\n\\usepackage{graphicx}\n\\usepackage{longtable}\n\\usepackage{hyperref}
 (\\part{%s} . \\part*{%s})
 (\\chapter{%s} . \\chapter*{%s})
 (\\section{%s} . \\section*{%s})
 (\\subsection{%s} . \\subsection*{%s})
 (\\subsubsection{%s} . \\subsubsection*{%s}))
)
 org-mode-hook '((lambda nil 

Re: [Orgmode] I need help about org-mode with auto-fill-mode

2009-09-16 Thread Meteor Liu

- Original Message - 
From: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com
To: Meteor Liu meteor1...@gmail.com
Cc: Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] I need help about org-mode with auto-fill-mode


 
 On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Meteor Liu wrote:
 
 Hello,

 I used auto-fill-mode in org-mode.
 for turn off TeX-like syntax, I add #+OPTIONS: ^:nil to the head.

 I input some words, for example, test test test ..,
 when the length over fill-column, the second line becomes
 #test test ..., I don't want get the #.
 Any suggestions?
 
 Yes. Do not set `comment-start'
 
 - Carsten
 

OK. Thank you!

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 I use emacs23.1 and org-mode 6.21b in Windows XP.

 Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] I need help about org-mode with auto-fill-mode

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik

Matt?  This could also be a nice FAQ... :-)

- Carsten

On Sep 16, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Meteor Liu wrote:



- Original Message -
From: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com
To: Meteor Liu meteor1...@gmail.com
Cc: Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] I need help about org-mode with auto-fill-mode




On Sep 16, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Meteor Liu wrote:


Hello,

I used auto-fill-mode in org-mode.
for turn off TeX-like syntax, I add #+OPTIONS: ^:nil to the head.

I input some words, for example, test test test ..,
when the length over fill-column, the second line becomes
#test test ..., I don't want get the #.
Any suggestions?


Yes. Do not set `comment-start'

- Carsten



OK. Thank you!

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Regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] org-babel, src blocks and asymptote

2009-09-16 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Nicolas,

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 Org-babel looks very interesting. I am pleased to see an asymptote
 module included in it. While testing it, I think I found 2 problems :


 To activate the asymptote module, you have to begin the source block,
 for example, with
 #+begin_src asymptote :file bezier.pdf

 Unfortunately, the major mode used to edit asymptote code is named
 asy-mode. This leads to the following error when you edit the block
 with C-c ' : no such language mode: asymptote-mode.

 Perhaps that module should be named org-babel-asy ?


Thanks for the catch, I'm now mentioning asy-mode in the requirements of
org-babel-asymptote.el, and asy-mode is now listed as the major-mode for
asymptote blocks in the `org-src-lang-modes' variable.  After grabbing
the latest Org-mode you should be able to edit asymptote source-code
blocks using C-c '


 The second problem, related to Org Src handling, is that the code is
 put in a temporary buffer. I don't know about other languages, but,
 in asy-mode, you can't compile code while in that kind of buffer.
 This can be quite problematic in a language oriented towards
 graphics, as you need to often make previews of your work.

 In other words, is there an option to associate a temporary file to
 the process (even in a per-language basis) instead of a buffer ? Or do I
 have to mess with org-src-mode-hook to try to fix it ?


I don't believe that anything like this currently exists, but I agree
that it would be generally useful.  In the current setup the best way to
preview your work would probably be to...
1) jump out of edit-src-mode C-c '
2) re-run the source-code block from the Org-mode buffer C-c C-c

Some better options which come to mind are...
- use either a header argument or a language specific setting to specify
  that Org-edit-src should associate the src buffer with a temporary file
- add a command to org-edit-src-mode which writes the buffer to a
  temporary file
- something else...

Dan has more experience than myself in dealing with Org-edit-src so he
may have better ideas.  I do think this is an issue that deserves
further thought/discussion.

Thanks -- Eric



 Regards,

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread tycho garen
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:32:02PM -0400, Matthew Lundin wrote:
 
 As a point of comparison, I divide my files according to area of
 responsibility (household.org, health.org, family.org, writing.org,
 etc.) so that I can quickly review what I need to do in each area. When
 I'm done with an item, I archive it and it is nicely deposited in the
 appropriate archive file. If a project within one of these files becomes
 quite big, I create a new file for it. I almost never set CATEGORY,
 because all my appointments are already organized by category (i.e.,
 file name).

I didn't know there was a category option. I've been using org mode
pretty seriously for the last 9 months or so. I work pretty much like
Matt, but the details differ as does, I think, my thought process, so
I'll share, just because

I have two general files codex.org and data.org. I've been naming my
general organization file codex for years, so this is a personal
holdover. Data, is my clipping/reference folder (describe here:
http://www.tychoish.com/2009/09/fact-files/) and contains various
reference material and citation information for casual things that I
want to be able to capture and reuse later.

The remaining files are either sphere files, so I have a file for
each client/employer/work project, I have a writing file to manage
my blogging and wiki projects. These files and the trees inside of
them, tend to address ongoing projects and fairly well defined
projects. The outline tends to describe process rather than project. 

And then, I have a number of project I have files for specific
projects, creative writing projects, specific research projects,
larger scope things which are the kinds of things that I need to work
on for a while, but eventually finish. These files tend to describe
projects rather than processes, and contain notes and a great deal of
text, but aren't, on the whole todo lists as they are outlines that
happen also to support my todo list. 

I've always found that org-mode works the best for me when I think of
it more as an outline and data storage tool that happens to generate
todo-lists if there's something actionable around.

 I wouldn't worry about custom commands until you need them. Just type
 type C-c a t or C-c a T TODO and you'll get a clean list of all your
 todos.

I don't really use custom commands either. I'd recommend playing
around with tags and filtering agendas by tags, and then building on
that as you need to. There is also some crazy-awesome stuff around
using agendas generated from specific files (I think.) but I've also
never touched that. 

In any case, I have the following two key bindings set up to do what
Matt suggested above. 

  (global-set-key (kbd C-c o a) 'org-agenda-list)
  (global-set-key (kbd C-c o t) 'org-todo-list)

Cheers, 
sam

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[Orgmode] Build issue with latest git version - org-crypt.el

2009-09-16 Thread Mark Elston

Not so much a problem as an unexpected issue.

I read Eric's message about updating org-asymptote.el today
and thought I would get the latest to get this fix.  When I
went through the process of building I found it failed at the
org-crypt file since I didn't have epg.el on my system.

I found a copy of this file and thought I would try it and
see if that fixed the problem.  Alas, no.  It is part of a
bigger package - epa.

So I found this and tried to build/install it.  Oops. it
requires gpg to be installed to build it.

Fortunately, this is distributed with pre-compiled binaries
for Windows so installing it and modifying makefiles was
pretty simple to build epa.  I got that installed and
modified the makefile for org-mode so it can be found and
I am back up and running.

I also managed to do the same thing by deleting the org-crypt.el
line from the LISPF entry in the makefile.  Either would work for
me since I don't expect to use org-crypt regularly.  I went
through the above steps because I thought I might actually try
to play around with it for a while and see if it was of any
use to me.

However, for those who won't be using org-crypt as a normal
part of their daily operation it is probably simpler to make
the build/installation of org-crypt optional.  That way the
normal maintenance for those who do simple things stays,
uh, simple.

Mark


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[Orgmode] [PATCH] Fix iswitchb completion when virtual buffers are enabled

2009-09-16 Thread Tassilo Horn
Hi Carsten,

there's a typo in org.el which prevents deactivation of virtual buffers
when the iswitchb completion is used in org.  Here's a patch.

--8---cut here---start-8---
diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 4ef4a09..c364f1d 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -7724,7 +7724,7 @@ Use TAB to complete link prefixes, then RET for 
type-specific completion support
   Use iswitch as a completing-read replacement to choose from choices.
 PROMPT is a string to prompt with.  CHOICES is a list of strings to choose
 from.
-  (let* ((switchb-use-virtual-buffers nil)
+  (let* ((iswitchb-use-virtual-buffers nil)
 (iswitchb-make-buflist-hook
  (lambda ()
(setq iswitchb-temp-buflist choices
--8---cut here---end---8---

Bye,
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[Orgmode] Re: org-babel, src blocks and asymptote

2009-09-16 Thread Nicolas Goaziou

Actually, about the first problem, I found about org-src-lang-modes
variable and that you can do

(add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes '(asymptote . asy))

But, shouldn't this be done upon loading org-babel-asymptote, like
org-babel-ocaml, which points automatically ocaml to tuareg-mode ?

About the second problem, I can always edit code in native mode (C-c ')
go back to org file, compile the block, and visit the link provided. But
it still looks to me a bit awkward and unnatural and I still got the
urge to press C-c C-c in native mode.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-babel, src blocks and asymptote

2009-09-16 Thread Eric Schulte
Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Actually, about the first problem, I found about org-src-lang-modes
 variable and that you can do

 (add-to-list 'org-src-lang-modes '(asymptote . asy))


this is now provided in the default value of org-src-lang-modes


 About the second problem, I can always edit code in native mode (C-c ')
 go back to org file, compile the block, and visit the link provided.

for what it's worth this can be done in three key-chords
1) C-c ' jump back to org buffer
2) C-c C-c   recompile with `org-babel-execute-src-block'
3) C-c C-o   open file with `org-babel-open-src-block-result'

 But it still looks to me a bit awkward and unnatural and I still got
 the urge to press C-c C-c in native mode.

yea, understood, it would be much more convenient to optionally
associate the org-src-buffer with a temporary file to provide support
for those major modes (like asy-mode) which require a file name.

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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode version 6.30trans (release_6.30d.822.g738ba); Many DONE items missing from agenda view

2009-09-16 Thread Bernt Hansen
Paul Mead paul.d.m...@googlemail.com writes:

 Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
 what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See

  http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

 Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
 

 If I do an agenda list of all TODO items, then show all DONE todos
 (C-a t 4 r) not all my DONE items are shown. The same is true if I use
 C-a T DONE ret. In particular many of the items under my 'Todos'
 heading are missing - I use categories for many of my level 1 headings
 so I can see some context information in the agenda view.

 This has been a niggling problem for many versions, but I first
 noticed it when bulk operations were introduced - that's only
 significant because I want to use that to archive all completed todos
 under that heading.

 Any ideas?

snip

  org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled t

  org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date t

  org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines t

Are the missing ones the tasks with SCHEDULED: or DEADLINE: dates?
If so you can create a custom agenda view that turns off these variables
so all tasks show up.

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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] Fix iswitchb completion when virtual buffers are enabled

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik

Applied, thanks.

- Carsten

On Sep 16, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote:


Hi Carsten,

there's a typo in org.el which prevents deactivation of virtual  
buffers

when the iswitchb completion is used in org.  Here's a patch.

--8---cut here---start-8---
diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 4ef4a09..c364f1d 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -7724,7 +7724,7 @@ Use TAB to complete link prefixes, then RET  
for type-specific completion support
  Use iswitch as a completing-read replacement to choose from  
choices.
PROMPT is a string to prompt with.  CHOICES is a list of strings to  
choose

from.
-  (let* ((switchb-use-virtual-buffers nil)
+  (let* ((iswitchb-use-virtual-buffers nil)
 (iswitchb-make-buflist-hook
  (lambda ()
(setq iswitchb-temp-buflist choices
--8---cut here---end---8---

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Re: [Orgmode] column view bug

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi George,

despite your excellent description (thanks for that) I cannot
reproduce this problem, it works just fine for me.

Could someone else please try as well?  Thanks!

- Carsten

On Sep 13, 2009, at 7:57 PM, George Pearson wrote:


Running org 6.30e and emacs 22.3.1.  Running under fully updated
Windows XP.

Summary:  in column view of a weekly agenda, the rows showing the
days in the week are positioned differently depending on whether
or not there is any item for the day.

For a test file (see below), this is what I see in column view
for the weekly agenda.  (You'll need a fixed-width font to view it
properly).

CATE | ITEM| E | P | A |
Week-agenda (W37-W38):
Sunday 13 September 2009
Monday 14 September 2009 W38
   | Tuesday15 September 2009| . |   |   |
Test | TODO task 1 |   |   |   |
Wednesday  16 September 2009
   | Thursday   17 September 2009| . |   |   |
Test | TODO task 2 |   |   |   |
Friday 18 September 2009
Saturday   19 September 2009

Note the alignment difference between Tuesday and Thursday and
the other dates.

Note also I am including the CATEGORY in the display, via:

(org-columns-default-format %CATEGORY %35ITEM %Effort{:} %PRIORITY
%ALLTAGS)

The problem is *NOT* VISIBLE if the %CATEGORY is removed, so one
MUST include it to view the problem.

This is probably not a issue with a normal agenda, in which there
are tasks to do every day.  I actually discovered this problem using
a custom view, intended to show only appointments for the week.  But
the test file shows that the problem can be seen even without
a custom agenda.

By the way, I couldn't show it in this posting, but the Tuesday and
Thursday lines, along with their TODO items, have a light grey
background, whereas everything else has a white background.  This
shading problem is odd in appearance, and it happens WHETHER OR NOT
%CATEGORY is use, and so would be a separate, but related, fix.

Here's the test .org file I used:

#+STARTUP: odd
#+STARTUP: hidestars
#+STARTUP: logdone
#+SEQ_TODO: TODO NEXT PENDING | DONE(d!) CANCELLED(c@)

#+CATEGORY: Test
* Test
*** TODO task 1
 SCHEDULED: 2009-09-15 Tue
*** TODO task 2
 SCHEDULED: 2009-09-17 Thu

===

To display the result shown at the top of this message, I open
the test.org file in emacs, then type:

C-a  a

Then in the resulting agenda window, switch to weekly if not
already, and get column mode with

C-c C-x C-c


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[Orgmode] Re: Build issue with latest git version - org-crypt.el

2009-09-16 Thread Peter Jones
Mark Elston m_els...@comcast.net writes:
 However, for those who won't be using org-crypt as a normal
 part of their daily operation it is probably simpler to make
 the build/installation of org-crypt optional.  That way the
 normal maintenance for those who do simple things stays,
 uh, simple.

I also think that org-crypt should be optional, or at least put in the
contrib directory.  I didn't realize it was going to cause build issues.

That said, here is a patch for the Makefile so I could build the latest
org-mode:

diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
index f1b541b..085951d 100644
--- a/Makefile
+++ b/Makefile
@@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ infodir = $(prefix)/share/info
 
 BATCH=$(EMACS) -batch -q -no-site-file -eval \
   (progn (add-to-list (quote load-path) \$(lispdir)\) \
+  (add-to-list (quote load-path) \$(lispdir)/epg\) \
  (add-to-list (quote load-path) (expand-file-name \./lisp/\)))
 
 # Specify the byte-compiler for compiling org-mode files

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[Orgmode] How Are Others Customizing LaTeX Export?

2009-09-16 Thread Peter Jones
I've written a few LaTeX templates for use with Emacs Muse, and I am
looking at ways to use them with Org.  For example, I have one template
that generates a custom title page with my company's logo, my email
address, and phone number.

After reading the manual and looking at the org-latex.el code it doesn't
look like it would be easy to customize the export in this way.

For the title page I could use the org-export-latex-title-command
variable, other customizations can use #+LATEX_HEADER:, but for stuff
like multicol that needs to do an \end{multicols} before \end{document}
it doesn't currently seem possible.

Is anyone else doing LaTeX customization with Org?

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Re: [Orgmode] no annual agenda entries for repeater interval year

2009-09-16 Thread Sebastian Rose
Steffen Prochnow steffen.proch...@imag.fr writes:
 Hi,

 I defined a repeater interval of one year, e.g., 2009-09-16 Wed +1y,
 for an existing headline item. Opening the agenda view this headline is
 shown for the 2009-09-16. But, it's missing for any annual repetition,
 i.e., there is no entry on 2010-09-16, 2011-09-16, etc.


...because you'll need to schedule the entry?
The entry has to be a TODO, and scheduled or a deadline. After you
switched it to DONE ('S-RIGHT'), the entry shows up as done this year,
and as TODO next year.
Note, that `S-RIGHT' will switch the state from TODO to STARTED to TODO again

* TODO some headline
  SCHEDULED: 2009-09-16 Wed +1y

C-RIGHT C-RIGHT

* TODO Headline
  SCHEDULED: 2010-09-16 Do +1y 
  - State DONE   from STARTED[2009-09-17 Do 00:38]
  :LOGBOOK:
  :END:
  :PROPERTIES:
  :LAST_REPEAT: [2009-09-17 Do 00:38]
  :END:


Best wishes

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Re: [Orgmode] no annual agenda entries for repeater interval year

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik



Hi Steffen,

I cannot reproduce this, all those future dates show up just fine.
This behavior is regulated by the variable

org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all

HTH

- Carsten

On Sep 16, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Steffen Prochnow wrote:



Hi,

I defined a repeater interval of one year, e.g., 2009-09-16 Wed +1y,
for an existing headline item. Opening the agenda view this headline  
is

shown for the 2009-09-16. But, it's missing for any annual repetition,
i.e., there is no entry on 2010-09-16, 2011-09-16, etc.

Regards
Steffen Prochnow


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d
scrollbars) of 2009-06-26 on rivendell, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 6.30trans (release_6.30d.822.g738ba)

current state:
==
(setq
org-agenda-files '(~/tmp/tmp.org)
org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
org-agenda-start-with-follow-mode t
org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
org-mode-hook '((lambda nil (org-add-hook (quote
change-major-mode-hook) (quote org-show-block-all) (quote append)
(quote local)))
 (lambda nil (make-variable-buffer-local (quote
yas/trigger-key)) (setq yas/trigger-key [tab])
  (define-key yas/keymap [tab] (quote
yas/next-field-group)) (flyspell-mode 1))
 turn-on-font-lock)
org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Build issue with latest git version - org-crypt.el

2009-09-16 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Peter Jones wrote:


Mark Elston m_els...@comcast.net writes:

However, for those who won't be using org-crypt as a normal
part of their daily operation it is probably simpler to make
the build/installation of org-crypt optional.  That way the
normal maintenance for those who do simple things stays,
uh, simple.


I also think that org-crypt should be optional, or at least put in the
contrib directory.  I didn't realize it was going to cause build  
issues.


That said, here is a patch for the Makefile so I could build the  
latest

org-mode:

diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
index f1b541b..085951d 100644
--- a/Makefile
+++ b/Makefile
@@ -30,6 +30,7 @@ infodir = $(prefix)/share/info

BATCH=$(EMACS) -batch -q -no-site-file - 
eval \

  (progn (add-to-list (quote load-path) \$(lispdir)\) \
+  (add-to-list (quote load-path) \$(lispdir)/epg\) \
  (add-to-list (quote load-path) (expand-file-name \./lisp/\)))

# Specify the byte-compiler for compiling org-mode files


epg is not part of older versions of Emacs, look like mark is using  
Emacs 22?

I have changed org-crypt.el so that it will compile without loading epg.
So an error will only happen if anyone actually uses it.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Build issue with latest git version - org-crypt.el

2009-09-16 Thread Mark Elston

Carsten Dominik wrote:


epg is not part of older versions of Emacs, look like mark is using 
Emacs 22?


Yeah.  22.3.1.  I tried 23 some time ago and had problems with some
of the packages I used routinely (I forget which ones right now).  So
I gave it up.  It was also a real hassle maintaining two separate
personal 'site-lisp' hierarchies...

Maybe its time to try it again.


I have changed org-crypt.el so that it will compile without loading epg.
So an error will only happen if anyone actually uses it.


Thanks.

Mark


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[Orgmode] org-babel: load-path question and indentation of blocks

2009-09-16 Thread Sebastian Rose
Hi Dan and Eric,


I'm an org-babel fan now :)


Here are two little things I noticed and that I want to discard from my
todo list.


* load-path

  Why is load modified only temporarily in org-babel-init.el?

  Wouldn't this here make sense?

diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-babel-init.el b/contrib/lisp/org-babel-init.el
index c2e4211..1cd1a30 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/org-babel-init.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/org-babel-init.el
@@ -35,11 +35,12 @@
 babel
 (expand-file-name
  .. (file-name-directory (or load-file-name buffer-file-name))
-   
-   (langs-dir (expand-file-name langs babel-dir))
-   (load-path (append
-   (list babel-dir langs-dir)
-   (or load-path nil
+
+   (langs-dir (expand-file-name langs babel-dir)))
+
+  (add-to-list 'load-path (append
+   (list babel-dir langs-dir)
+   (or load-path nil)))
 
   ;; org-babel core
   (require 'cl)

  Users wouldn't have to add the babel/lisp/langs/ directory to the
  load-path `by hand' in that case.




* Evaluation of indented code-blocks

  This is a minor quirk I found.
  If the code block is indented according to the outline, evaluation (C-c C-c)
  does not work:

  #+begin_src sh :results output :exports both
  echo Directory structure:
  tree -d ~/.emacs.d/
  #+end_src

  Error message:

  Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error C-c C-c can do nothing useful
  at this location.)
  ...


  While this works:

#+begin_src sh :results output :exports both
  echo Directory structure:
  tree -d ~/.emacs.d/
#+end_src





Best wishes

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[Orgmode] Option for new clocktables to default to scope: subtree?

2009-09-16 Thread Jeff Kowalczyk
I frequently use clocktables, and always use scope: subtree. The default scope 
is file.

If it doesn't exist already (I didn't find it with grep), an org customization 
variable for this preference would be very helpful.

Thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] no annual agenda entries for repeater interval year

2009-09-16 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira

I'm using org-mode for only a month, but I also had this problem (version
6.28e). I created some headlines for birthdays and other special dates with
active timestamps (not in the headline) that had a repeater of ++1y, but it only
appeared on the current year. After changing to ++12m everything worked
fine. However, seeing your E-Mail I decided to change it back to ++1y and it
worked.
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[Orgmode] org-agenda-suffix-format ?

2009-09-16 Thread Eraldo Helal
In one of my agenda views I have org-agenda-prefix-format setup like this:
(org-agenda-prefix-format  %-8:c )
The whole thing then looks like that:
eraldo:  TODO clean garage
In this example eraldo is the name of the org file  eraldo.org
I would like to have the same thing just not at the begining of the like...
like this:
TODO clean garageeraldo
Is that possible?

I thought if there is an agenda prefix... why not have an agenda suffix?

Pleas let me know your ideas.
Greetings and thanks,
Eraldo
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Re: [Orgmode] org-babel: load-path question and indentation of blocks

2009-09-16 Thread Eric Schulte
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Hi Dan and Eric,


 I'm an org-babel fan now :)


 Here are two little things I noticed and that I want to discard from my
 todo list.


 * load-path

   Why is load modified only temporarily in org-babel-init.el?

   Wouldn't this here make sense?


Yes, I originally wasn't sure about load-path etiquette so I was
hesitant to change the user's load path.  However I suppose it is better
to change the load path, then to force the user to manually add the
babel/lisp/langs directory.  Your patch is now applied (org-babel adds
it's lisp directories to the user's load path).


 * Evaluation of indented code-blocks

   This is a minor quirk I found.
   If the code block is indented according to the outline, evaluation (C-c C-c)
   does not work:


ah, thanks, this should now be fixed (please let me know if it isn't)

Thanks! -- Eric


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[Orgmode] Re: How Are Others Customizing LaTeX Export?

2009-09-16 Thread Peter Jones
Bart Bunting b...@ursys.com.au writes:
 I am no expert at LaTeX.  However in response to a request I made recently
 on this list Tim Burt spent time assisting me put together a template that I
 can use to produce pdfs in the format our company requires.

 I have attached a copy of the template to this email in the hope that it may
 help others create their own templates.  It is working very well for me so
 far.  There are still a few bits that can't be expressed entirely in org
 syntax thus requiring the LaTeX style file.

 Tim's explanation of how to use it is below.

This is great, it gives me a lot to think about and learn ;)

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[Orgmode] Re: Documentation wishlist items

2009-09-16 Thread Matt Lundin
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:

 Hi Ethan,

 Ethan ethan.glasser.c...@gmail.com writes:

 Another good example is TODO keywords, categories, and tags. It isn't clear
 what they all are, or why they are distinct, or what the differences are, and
 it's easy to confuse them with similarly-named but completely distinct 
 concepts
 like properties.

 The manual might enjoy a glossary.  ;)

 I have created org-glossary.org on Worg, please check it out and add
 your own definitions: http://repo.or.cz/w/Worg.git

O.K. So I went a little crazy and added a bunch of definitions to the
glossary.

  - http://orgmode.org/worg/org-glossary.php

Perhaps it's not so much a glossary any more as an shorter introduction
to the basic concepts of org-mode.

My apologies if I ended up repeating details from the manual, but my
goal was to provide the following:

   1) a brief definition of each term/concept.

   2) a more detailed explanation of what it is and/or how it works.

   3) possible uses (e.g., Why might one want to use categories?)

I made a small dent in the list of terms. Please feel free to take up
any of the remaining entries.   

Best,
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