Re: [Orgmode] export-latex-final-hook

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Davison
Matt Price  writes:

> Thanks to Dan and Carsten,
>
> I now have this:
>
>
> (defun  mwp/push-latex-to-odt ()
>   "takes the exported tex file from org-mode and converts it to odt,
> then launches openoffice"
>   (shell-command
>(format  "mk4ht oolatex  %s.tex"
>   (file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name
>   (shell-command
>(format  "ooffice  %s.odt &"
>   (file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name)
>
> (add-hook 'org-export-latex-final-hook
> 'mwp/push-latex-to-odt)
>
>
> which works fine.  The only issue is that the first shell command,
> mk4ht oolatex, sometimes takes a while to finish processing & would be
> nice to have running in the background.  Should  just write a shell
> script that runs the two commands, and then fork that process? Or is
> there a slightly more elegant way that keeps all of the programming
> contained in a lisp file?

Hi Matt,

It's either start-process or start-process-shell-command you want I
think. Also, I believe we may have hit on not-quite-the-correct export
hook. This seems to work:

(defun  mwp/push-latex-to-odt ()
  "takes the exported tex file from org-mode and converts it to odt,
then launches openoffice"
  (let* ((file-name (file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name)))
 (output-buffer "*latex-to-odt output*")
 (cmd (format  "mk4ht oolatex %s.tex && ooffice %s.odt"
  file-name file-name)))
(message "Converting latex to odt")
(start-process-shell-command
 "latex-to-odt" output-buffer cmd)))

(add-hook 'org-export-latex-after-save-hook
  'mwp/push-latex-to-odt)

Dan

>
> Thanks again,
>
> matt
>
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Re: [Orgmode] export-latex-final-hook

2010-04-19 Thread Matt Price
Thanks to Dan and Carsten,

I now have this:


(defun  mwp/push-latex-to-odt ()
  "takes the exported tex file from org-mode and converts it to odt,
then launches openoffice"
  (shell-command
   (format  "mk4ht oolatex  %s.tex"
(file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name
  (shell-command
   (format  "ooffice  %s.odt &"
(file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name)

(add-hook 'org-export-latex-final-hook
  'mwp/push-latex-to-odt)


which works fine.  The only issue is that the first shell command,
mk4ht oolatex, sometimes takes a while to finish processing & would be
nice to have running in the background.  Should  just write a shell
script that runs the two commands, and then fork that process? Or is
there a slightly more elegant way that keeps all of the programming
contained in a lisp file?

Thanks again,

matt


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[Orgmode] mobile org

2010-04-19 Thread clsnyder
Hi

I have a web-dav set up via dreamhost on a remote server
(http://myfile.clsnyder.com/orgmode/index.org)

I have mobile org on my iphone.

When I ftp transferred files to the server, they show up on the iphone app, and
sync and work fine. 

I am unable to push or pull anything from my windows/mac home computers from the
server via emacs; 
Under Org Mobile group, I put http://myfile.clsnyder.com/orgmode/ as the org
mobile directory (where would I input the username and password?)

When I try to push files and views or get captured, I get a
"org-mobile-check-setup: Please set `org-directory' to the directory where your
org files live" error

? any ideas 

GNU Emacs 23.1.50.
orgmode 6.33a
windows 7


Thanks

cls




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Re: [Orgmode] Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Matthew Jones
Maybe I misunderstood what you meant about the "swipe" feature.   There is a
keyboard called Swype which is fairly overrated.

I can't comment on how well or if a bluetooth keyboard would work... I think
if I were going to go to the trouble of carrying around a keyboard I would
rather just carry my netbook.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Daniel Martins  wrote:

> 2010/4/19 Matthew Jones :
> > I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before getting rid of it...
> it's a
> > good concept that needs be iterated on.
>
> I could not follow your comment here
>
>
> > Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline
> > impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android
> > phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion.
>
> A bluetooth keyboard such as
>
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34724
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6443
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28954
>
>
> is possible to be used with an Android phone? It worths an investment?
>
>
> Daniel
>
> > One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with
> being
> > able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget
> that
> > will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the
> > application to view or adjust these items.
> > 73
> > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
> > http://matburt.net
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Martins 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The device I was tantalized to buy was the
> >>
> >> Motorola Quench
> >>
> >> maybe mainly for Swipe feature
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpqsDnXIOY  (at about 1:00)
> >>
> >> or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone
> >> is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or
> >> European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with
> >> the swype feature...
> >>
> >> In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am
> >> afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :)
> >> For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing
> >> devices as toys or at least funny :)
> >>
> >> For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with
> >> agenda view would be the best.
> >>
> >> ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of
> >> course!)
> >>
> >> Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right?
> >>
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> 2010/4/19 Richard Riley :
> >> > Eric S Fraga  writes:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>  --- resending with a proper title ---
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Matthew,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
> >> >>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the
> available
> >> >>> keyborards are OK?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Daniel
> >> >>
> >> >> I have the same questions!  My current mobile phone contract expires
> >> >> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone.  The
> >> >> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka
> >> >> the i5700.  [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet
> >> >> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit.  The nokia does a
> >> >> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets
> >> >> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> eric
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but
> >> > would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs
> is
> >> > not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the
> >> > terminals
> >> > I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device
> >> > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux
> >> > soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I now
> >> > have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient
> >> > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed
> >> > something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and
> >> > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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[Orgmode] Re: Automatic clock-in

2010-04-19 Thread Bernt Hansen
Andrea Crotti  writes:

> I'm using more and more the very nice clock functions provided by
> org-mode.
> I added this
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> (global-set-key "\C-c\C-x\C-o" 'org-clock-out)
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>
> So I can clock out from every buffer without problems.
> It would be nice somehow to have a similar thing for clock in also.
> It's not so easy of course but most of the I clock in in the same buffer
> that I last clocked out.
>
> There could be a default choice which brings you there and otherwise
> asks you to which buffer you want to clock in, something like that.
>
> Or is there another better way to do already what I'm asking?

Hi Andrea,

I have a couple of tasks I regularly clock in (organization, and read
mail/news).  These I clock in by F9-o and F9-m respectively.  They look
up the task by id and clock it in no matter what buffer I am in.  I have
F9-O as org-clock-out.

F11 is bound to org-clock-goto and C-F11 bound to org-clock-in so I can
return to my last clocked task simply by pressing F11, or I can visit
any recently clocked task with C-u F11 and I can clock in any recently
clocked task with C-u C-F11.

I use this all the time without thinking about it anymore :)

More details are here:
http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#KeyBindings
http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#ClockSetup

Regards,
Bernt


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[Orgmode] Re: Agenda View: Do not display items scheduled in the past

2010-04-19 Thread Bernt Hansen
Your other option is don't use SCHEDULED: at all -- just use plain
timestamps with C-c .

These show up on the agenda only on the date they are for.

HTH,
Bernt


Friedericksen Hope  writes:

> Dear Matt,
>
> thank you very much - this is exactly what I was looking for. And I
> found out something interesting. In the description this variable is
> associated with items, that are not marked done. But it displays also
> items which have no DONE/TODO marker. So "not done" means really NOT
> DONE and not only TODO-items. ;-)
>
> Best wishes back,
> Friedericksen
>
> On 04/19/2010 04:41 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:
>> Friedericksen Hope  writes:
>>
>>> I tried to solve this problem with the manual, but I was not very
>>> successfull. I have an org file with several items, nearly all with a
>>> timestamp. When I open the standard agenda with C-x a a I get a weekly
>>> view with a display of all scheduled items from the past (like missed
>>> items) in red below the todays appointment. (I hope you can
>>> understand).
>>>
>>> The items scheduled in the past are displayed ion red with a number
>>> like "3x" saying that it was scheduled three days before.
>>>
>>> How can I prevent orgmode from displaying these items? I only want to
>>> see items with a timestamp today (and, of course, deadline items in
>>> the next two weeks).
>>
>> (setq org-scheduled-past-days 0)
>>
>> Best,
>> Matt
>>
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[Orgmode] Re: bug: org-decrypt-entry and org-refile

2010-04-19 Thread Bernt Hansen
That was me trying to make things better and failing miserably :)

Carsten:  Please revert commit a30955.

This also fixes the same message when I refile the last entry out of
refile.org so that it has only the #+FILETAGS: line left.

Thanks,
Bernt


Richard Riley  writes:

> If I create a new org-item using the following "web" template (from the
> firefox browser or from within emacs itself)
>
> ("bookmarks" 119 "* %T %c %i" "bookmarks.org" top nil)
>
> and then attempt to refile from within the creation *remember* buffer using 
> C-c C-w I get:-
>
> ,
> | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Before first headline at position 375 
> in buffer *Remember*")
> |   signal(error ("Before first headline at position 375 in buffer 
> *Remember*"))
> |   error("Before first headline at position %d in buffer %s" 375 # *Remember*>)
> |   byte-code("`p#‡" [error "Before first headline at position %d in buffer 
> %s"] 4)
> |   org-back-to-heading(t)
> |   org-decrypt-entry()
> |   run-hooks(org-reveal-start-hook)
> |   org-reveal()
> |   org-refile(nil)
> |   call-interactively(org-refile nil nil)
> `
>
> Simply removing the org-reveal from the org-refile call fixes this but I
> suspect some deeper work probably needs to be done in the
> org-refile part to make the code aware
> that the remember buffer is not the one to be concerned about after the
> refile so that org-back-to-heading works.
>
> regards
>
> r.
>
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Daniel Martins
Just to comment that I am in the same situation/expectation as Eric.

I entered in the "buy mode" and despite my frustation with the phone
company procedures I perceived that "buy mode" is a "major mode".

Daniel

2010/4/19 Eric S Fraga :
> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:50:40 -0400, Matthew Jones  wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline
>> impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android
>> phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion.
>
> okay.  this is worth knowing.  keeps my expectations rooted in reality!
>
>> One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with being
>> able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget that
>> will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the
>> application to view or adjust these items.
>
> This sounds excellent.  I look forward to it (once I have the
> appropriate phone, of course).
>
> Thanks,
> eric
>
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Daniel Martins
2010/4/19 Matthew Jones :
> I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before getting rid of it... it's a
> good concept that needs be iterated on.

I could not follow your comment here


> Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline
> impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android
> phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion.

A bluetooth keyboard such as

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.34724
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.6443
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.28954


is possible to be used with an Android phone? It worths an investment?


Daniel

> One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with being
> able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget that
> will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the
> application to view or adjust these items.
> 73
> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
> http://matburt.net
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Martins  wrote:
>>
>> The device I was tantalized to buy was the
>>
>> Motorola Quench
>>
>> maybe mainly for Swipe feature
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpqsDnXIOY  (at about 1:00)
>>
>> or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone
>> is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or
>> European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with
>> the swype feature...
>>
>> In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am
>> afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :)
>> For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing
>> devices as toys or at least funny :)
>>
>> For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with
>> agenda view would be the best.
>>
>> ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of
>> course!)
>>
>> Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> 2010/4/19 Richard Riley :
>> > Eric S Fraga  writes:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>  --- resending with a proper title ---
>> >>>
>> >>> Matthew,
>> >>>
>> >>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
>> >>>
>> >>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
>> >>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
>> >>>
>> >>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available
>> >>> keyborards are OK?
>> >>>
>> >>> Daniel
>> >>
>> >> I have the same questions!  My current mobile phone contract expires
>> >> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone.  The
>> >> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka
>> >> the i5700.  [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet
>> >> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit.  The nokia does a
>> >> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.
>> >>
>> >> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets
>> >> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> eric
>> >
>> >
>> > +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but
>> > would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs is
>> > not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the
>> > terminals
>> > I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device
>> > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux
>> > soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I now
>> > have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient
>> > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed
>> > something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and
>> > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs).
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: apparently too stupid to use checkboxes

2010-04-19 Thread Christos Chryssochoidis
Hi,

I had the same problem when using the git version of org-mode within
an Emacs 23 nightly build on Mac OS X 10.6.3.
I was byte-compiling org-mode in the command line, as it had been
downloaded, without changing anything, e.g. the Makefile.
That means it used the emacs version that shipped with Mac OS X to
compile org-mode, which is located in /usr/bin/. That's Emacs version
22.1.1 on my machine.
So I set in the Makefile the parameter EMACS to be the path of the
Emacs 23 build I've been using, and then I did "make clean", "make"
etc.
I don't get anymore the "Invalid function: ignore errors" message. :-)

Hope this helps


On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Detlef Steuer  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> while looking for the cause of my "checkbox problem" I found,
> that all works fine, if I issue
>
> make clean
>
> in my org-mode directory before editing.
>
> orgmode version is:
> release_6.34c-238-gc0707
> Org-mode version 6.34trans (release_6.34c.238.gc0707.dirty)
>
> If these very same files get byte-compiled with
> make
>
> checkboxes stop functioning again.
>
> There are no error messages during startup.
> If I can help any further identifying the real cause, let me know, please.
>
> Detlef
>
>
>  Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:01:21 +0100
> Carsten Dominik  wrote:
>
>> Hi Detlef,
>>
>> `ignore-errors' is defined in cl-macs in Emacs 22.  You need to
>> compile the .el file
>> to get this macro.  Alternatively, define it in your .emacs file
>> before loading org-mode stuff:
>>
>>
>> (defmacro ignore-errors (&rest body)
>>    "Execute BODY; if an error occurs, return nil.
>> Otherwise, return result of last form in BODY."
>>    `(condition-case nil (progn ,@body) (error nil)))
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Detlef Steuer wrote:
>>
>> > Hi!
>> >
>> > I try to use checkboxes (never used before):
>> >
>> > * TODO Test [/]
>> >  - [ ] first
>> >  - [ ] second
>> >
>> > Now I can C-c C-c to state-change a single box, but the summary box
>> > in the
>> > headline never gets updated.
>> >
>> > If I try C-c # I get an error messge
>> > Invalid function: ignore errors
>> >
>> > Even if I cut'n'paste the  checkbox example out of the manual it
>> > doesn't
>> > work here.
>> >
>> >
>> > My org-version is
>> > release_6.34c-232-g727a
>> > Org-mode version 6.34trans (release_6.34c.232.g727a)
>> >
>> > My emacs
>> > GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (i586-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.14.4) of
>> > 2008-12-03 on build19
>> >
>> >
>> > I know, the mistake must happen between my ears 
>> > Any help appreciated.
>> >
>> > Detlef
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Automatic clock-in

2010-04-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:49:09 +0200, Benjamin Andresen  wrote:
> 
> Hey Andrea,
> 
> Andrea Crotti  writes:
> 
> > Or is there another better way to do already what I'm asking?
> 
> Maybe C-u M-x org-clock-in RET does what you want.

Andrea,

I tag all the jobs that I clock with :clocked: and then simply 

C-c a m clocked RET

to bring up an agenda view with all of these items.  Easy then to
simply clock in the one I want.  This, however, assumes that you have
a relatively small set of such jobs...  It does help that you can
TAB complete on the tag so I typically type C-c a m clo TAB

HTH,
eric


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:50:40 -0400, Matthew Jones  wrote:

[...]

> Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline
> impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android
> phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion.

okay.  this is worth knowing.  keeps my expectations rooted in reality!

> One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with being
> able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget that
> will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the
> application to view or adjust these items.

This sounds excellent.  I look forward to it (once I have the
appropriate phone, of course).

Thanks,
eric


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[Orgmode] Re: Agenda View: Do not display items scheduled in the past

2010-04-19 Thread Friedericksen Hope

Dear Matt,

thank you very much - this is exactly what I was looking for. And I found out something interesting. In the description this variable is associated with items, that are not marked done. But it 
displays also items which have no DONE/TODO marker. So "not done" means really NOT DONE and not only TODO-items. ;-)


Best wishes back,
Friedericksen

On 04/19/2010 04:41 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:

Friedericksen Hope  writes:


I tried to solve this problem with the manual, but I was not very
successfull. I have an org file with several items, nearly all with a
timestamp. When I open the standard agenda with C-x a a I get a weekly
view with a display of all scheduled items from the past (like missed
items) in red below the todays appointment. (I hope you can
understand).

The items scheduled in the past are displayed ion red with a number
like "3x" saying that it was scheduled three days before.

How can I prevent orgmode from displaying these items? I only want to
see items with a timestamp today (and, of course, deadline items in
the next two weeks).


(setq org-scheduled-past-days 0)

Best,
Matt


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[Orgmode] Re: Choosing external app at runtime?

2010-04-19 Thread J. David Boyd
Simon Guest  writes:

> At Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:24:41 +0200,
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Simon Guest wrote:
>> > When I follow a link, Org mode knows what application to use.  Except
>> > that sometimes I want to override that choice.
>>
>> Currently we do not have this.  I can see that this could be both
>> useful and annoying, if you have to answer a prompt each time.
>
> If the choice was only offered when a C-u prefix was given, it
> wouldn't be annoying.
>
> What do you think?
>
> cheers,
> Simon
>



That's what _I_ was going to say!



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Re: [Orgmode] Choosing external app at runtime?

2010-04-19 Thread Ali Tofigh
On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 04:18, Simon Guest  wrote:
> At Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:24:41 +0200,
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Simon Guest wrote:
>> > When I follow a link, Org mode knows what application to use.  Except
>> > that sometimes I want to override that choice.
>>
>> Currently we do not have this.  I can see that this could be both
>> useful and annoying, if you have to answer a prompt each time.
>
> If the choice was only offered when a C-u prefix was given, it
> wouldn't be annoying.

I would find this useful as well. just my 2 cents

Cheers,
/Ali

>
> What do you think?
>
> cheers,
> Simon
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Re: [Orgmode] Listing filtered entries of a journal file with its datestamp

2010-04-19 Thread Ali Tofigh
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:09, Miguel Ruiz  wrote:
> I have a simple journal .org file like this:
>
> --Begin file---
> * <2010-04-16 fri>
> Subject 1
> Subject 2
> Subject 1
> Subject 40
>
> * <2010-04-17 sat>
> Subject 2
> Subject 3
> Subject 1
> Subject 40
> --End file--
>
> Every subject is only one line.
>
> I would like to print the journal but including only the lines with a 
> specific content, determined by a search, like the following
>
> -Buffer to print-
> * <2010-04-16 fri>
> Subject 1
> Subject 1
>
> * <2010-04-17 sat>
> Subject 1
> --
>
> --Another buffer to print-
> * <2010-04-16 fri>
> Subject 40
>
> * <2010-04-17 sat>
> Subject 40
> --
>
> I have tried M-x org-occur, but only marks the searched string; I also have 
> tried M-x occur, but generates a list without the dates, and cannot be 
> printed.

try using headlines for the lines under your heading and then a sparse
tree with a regexp (C-c / /):

--Begin file---
* <2010-04-16 fri>
** Subject 1
** Subject 2
** Subject 1
** Subject 40

* <2010-04-17 sat>
** Subject 2
** Subject 3
** Subject 1
** Subject 40
--End file--


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[Orgmode] Re: hyperlink to IMAP email

2010-04-19 Thread Uday S Reddy
Arne Freyberger wrote:

> I would like to link to email messages that are held in IMAP folders either
> locally or on the server.   I've tried vm but realized that I would have to 
> set
> up a copy of my IMAP folder structure into the vm folder world in order for 
> that
> to work.

You are right.  There wouldn't be much point in using a separate mail client 
just for Org.  It would be best to stick to whichever mail client you normally 
use.

The current org-vm.el interface, apparently written by Carsten Dominik, only 
works for local folders in VM.  (I don't blame him.  This was probably written 
in 2004, when IMAP wasn't used that much by VM users.)  I have now added 
changes to extend it to POP and IMAP folders.  They will be part of the next 
release of VM (v 8.1.1, due to be released pretty soon).  Or, you can get it 
from Launchpad (bzr get lp:vm/8.1.x).

The IMAP folder names will be in the standard VM format:

  imap:HOST:PORT:MAILBOX:AUTH:USER:PASSWORD

If people would prefer shorter folder names, I could do some more work on it.  
But, it probably doesn't matter.  The hyperlinks are rarely seen anyway.

Cheers,
Uday Reddy
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[Orgmode] Increase width in agenda view?

2010-04-19 Thread Johan Ekh
Hi all,
is it possible to increase the width in the Week-agenda view such that the
TODO keyword
and the title task text get more space? My tags to the right of the title
text gets misaligned
if the title text is too long.

Best regards,
Johan
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Re: [Orgmode] subtitle in export?

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Davison
 Org has org-export-html-final-hook but no latex equivalent, nor a
 general after-export hook? Is that right? (I feel like I must be
 missing
 something there.)
>>>
>>> All backends have a "final" hook - org-export-latex-final-hook in
>>> this
>>> case.
>>
>> Ah, I see, Emacs doesn't know about it until I cause
>> (require 'org-latex)
>> to happen. As I said, I felt that I was missing something...
>
> I think add-hook is still OK to use.

Sorry, yes, I didn't mean to suggest that this was preventing user
customisation.  I was just trying to explain how I had hastily come to
the erroneous conclusion that the hook variable didn't exist.

Is there a convenient way to load all features in core org-mode at
startup so that I don't make the same mistake again?

Dan

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs

2010-04-19 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 19, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Michael Sperber wrote:



Carsten Dominik  writes:


The compromise for me would be this:

- You fix the things above.
- I leave the rest of the necessary compatibility code in
- I program any new features with whatever is available
 in Emacs 22/23 and rely on you to make it XEmacs compatible.


That would be wonderful.  I'll see that the issues are addressed:

1. posix character classes in regular expressions, thinks like  
[:alpha:]

  These are nice because they work well with arbitrary languages.
  Does XEmacs suppor these now?


No, but I'll see to it that they are.


Right now I am using a macro to replace them with the corresponding  
ASCII character sets - but this is not nice and even wrong in foreign  
languages.





2. The overlay API - I think XEmacs actually has a compatibility lib
  for these, is that correct?


Correct.

  One of the things you could do it to figure out if I can also  
switch

  to the API calls overlays-in and overlays-at in that library.


You should, anyway: I'll take care of any problems.  I take it  
something

about these didn't work for you in the past: If that is so, a sentence
or two on what those problems were would be much appreciated.


I don't remember - I wrote these compatibility functions without  
knowledge
of the library in XEmacs.  So it is well possible that the library  
functions just work - I will just switch - and wait for any bug reports.





3. outline.el.  Last time  looked, XEmacs still had the horrible old
  outline.el which is pretty much impossible to program.
  I do have a port, xemacs/noutline.el in the Org distribution - if  
you
  could get that into XEmacs, that would get rid of a major  
annoyance,

  including complicated installation instructions.


I'm working on this right now - should be no big problem.  A few minor
incompatibilities with our current outline.el need to be addressed,  
but

I'm working on them.


OK. This is a potential source of future problems - but we will see.




4. Can you make XEmacs understand mouse-3 instead of button3 ?  Or
  maybe it does understand these by now?


No; I'll try to get this in.

Won't all happen overnight, but I'm getting to work on it.  I very  
much

appreciate your willingness to help!


Thank you for your willingness to take much off my task list.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs

2010-04-19 Thread Carsten Dominik

OK.

- Carsten

On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Michael Sperber wrote:



Carsten Dominik  writes:


That is acceptable - but I think that making BUFFER default to
(current-buffer) does make a lot of sense - which is why making that
argument optional in XEmacs is a good idea anyway.


It would - but the problem is that in XEmacs, an omitted BUFFER  
argument

means something different from (current-buffer):

`local-variable-p' is a built-in function
 -- loaded from "/afs/informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/home/sperber/build/ 
xemacs/src/symbols.c"

(local-variable-p SYMBOL BUFFER &optional AFTER-SET)

Documentation:
Return t if SYMBOL's value is local to BUFFER.
If optional third arg AFTER-SET is non-nil, return t if SYMBOL would  
be
buffer-local after it is set, regardless of whether it is so  
presently.
A nil value for BUFFER is *not* the same as (current-buffer), but  
means

"no buffer".  Specifically:

-- If BUFFER is nil and AFTER-SET is nil, a return value of t  
indicates that

  the variable is one of the special built-in variables that is always
  buffer-local. (This includes `buffer-file-name', `buffer-read-only',
  `buffer-undo-list', and others.)

-- If BUFFER is nil and AFTER-SET is t, a return value of t  
indicates that

  the variable has had `make-variable-buffer-local' applied to it.

--
Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla


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Re: [Orgmode] subtitle in export?

2010-04-19 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Dan Davison wrote:


Carsten Dominik  writes:


On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Dan Davison wrote:


[...]

If it makes any difference, I am currently exporting to latex, then
converting to odt using mk4ht oolatex.  (aside: is there a really
easy
way to define a new export option that automates the seond step?
right now I'm switching to a shell to do the final step, would love
to
stop having to do that.)


Org has org-export-html-final-hook but no latex equivalent, nor a
general after-export hook? Is that right? (I feel like I must be
missing
something there.)


All backends have a "final" hook - org-export-latex-final-hook in  
this

case.


Ah, I see, Emacs doesn't know about it until I cause
(require 'org-latex)
to happen. As I said, I felt that I was missing something...


I think add-hook is still OK to use.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs

2010-04-19 Thread Michael Sperber

Carsten Dominik  writes:

> That is acceptable - but I think that making BUFFER default to
> (current-buffer) does make a lot of sense - which is why making that
> argument optional in XEmacs is a good idea anyway.

It would - but the problem is that in XEmacs, an omitted BUFFER argument
means something different from (current-buffer):

`local-variable-p' is a built-in function
  -- loaded from 
"/afs/informatik.uni-tuebingen.de/home/sperber/build/xemacs/src/symbols.c"
(local-variable-p SYMBOL BUFFER &optional AFTER-SET)

Documentation:
Return t if SYMBOL's value is local to BUFFER.
If optional third arg AFTER-SET is non-nil, return t if SYMBOL would be
buffer-local after it is set, regardless of whether it is so presently.
A nil value for BUFFER is *not* the same as (current-buffer), but means
"no buffer".  Specifically:

-- If BUFFER is nil and AFTER-SET is nil, a return value of t indicates that
   the variable is one of the special built-in variables that is always
   buffer-local. (This includes `buffer-file-name', `buffer-read-only',
   `buffer-undo-list', and others.)

-- If BUFFER is nil and AFTER-SET is t, a return value of t indicates that
   the variable has had `make-variable-buffer-local' applied to it.

-- 
Cheers =8-} Mike
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs

2010-04-19 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 19, 2010, at 1:19 PM, Michael Sperber wrote:



One more thing: Are patches like this one acceptable? (Needed to make
yesterday's checkout work on XEmacs)

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 7cad962..5cca11e 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -17743,7 +17743,7 @@ the functionality can be provided as a fall- 
back.")

  (org-set-local 'fill-paragraph-function 'org-fill-paragraph)
  ;; Adaptive filling: To get full control, first make sure that
  ;; `adaptive-fill-regexp' never matches.  Then install our own  
matcher.

-  (unless (local-variable-p 'adaptive-fill-regexp)
+  (unless (local-variable-p 'adaptive-fill-regexp (current-buffer))
(org-set-local 'org-adaptive-fill-regexp-backup
   adaptive-fill-regexp))
  (org-set-local 'adaptive-fill-regexp "\000")


That is acceptable - but I think that making BUFFER default to  
(current-buffer)
does make a lot of sense - which is why making that argument optional  
in XEmacs

is a good idea anyway.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] subtitle in export?

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Davison
Carsten Dominik  writes:

> On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Dan Davison wrote:
>
>> [...]
>>> If it makes any difference, I am currently exporting to latex, then
>>> converting to odt using mk4ht oolatex.  (aside: is there a really
>>> easy
>>> way to define a new export option that automates the seond step?
>>> right now I'm switching to a shell to do the final step, would love
>>> to
>>> stop having to do that.)
>>
>> Org has org-export-html-final-hook but no latex equivalent, nor a
>> general after-export hook? Is that right? (I feel like I must be
>> missing
>> something there.)
>
> All backends have a "final" hook - org-export-latex-final-hook in this
> case.

Ah, I see, Emacs doesn't know about it until I cause 
(require 'org-latex)
to happen. As I said, I felt that I was missing something...

Dan

>
> Cheers
>
> - Carsten
>
>>
>> But anyway, if there's no hook, a function to do it could be as simple
>> as
>>
>> (defun my-budget-latex-export-with-post-processing ()
>>  (interactive)
>>  (if (org-export-as-latex 3)
>>  (shell-command
>>   (format "mk4ht oolatex %s.tex"
>> (file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name))
>>
>> You could add minibuffer messages with the `message' function.
>> (3 is the number of levels to use in the export, see C-h f org-
>> export-as-latex)
>> If there's a hook, then make a function with just the shell command
>> bit
>> and add it to the the hook.
>>
>> Dan
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[Orgmode] Problem exporting to LaTeX/PDF from command line

2010-04-19 Thread Francesco Pizzolante
Hi,

I'm trying to write a shell script in order to convert/export Org files to
LaTeX/PDF from the command line (org2tex/org2pdf). The whole process works
well, except that it seems that some bits of the exportation are not executed.

Here's an example of what I do.

I'm using the org-interaction.el file from Blorgit:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
(require 'org)
(require 'cl)

(setq font-lock-mode t)

(defun refresh-then-find-file (file)
  "Find file ensuring that the latest changes on disk are
represented in the file."
  (let (file-buf)
(while (setq file-buf (get-file-buffer file))
  (kill-buffer file-buf))
(find-file file)))

(defmacro with-temp-filebuffer (file &rest body)
  "Open FILE into a temporary buffer execute BODY there like
`progn', then kill the FILE buffer returning the result of
evaluating BODY."
  (let ((temp-result (make-symbol "temp-result"))
(temp-file (make-symbol "temp-file")))
`(let (,temp-result ,temp-file)
   (refresh-then-find-file ,file)
   (setf ,temp-file (current-buffer))
   (setf ,temp-result (progn ,@body))
   (kill-buffer ,temp-file)
   ,temp-result)))

;; (defvar org-interaction-prefix ".exported_")
(defvar org-interaction-prefix "")

(defun org-file-to-html (file-path)
  "Open up an org file, publish it to html, and then return the
html as a string."
  (let* ((file-name (file-name-nondirectory file-path))
 (file-dir (file-name-directory file-path))
 (html-path (expand-file-name (concat org-interaction-prefix file-name) 
file-dir)))
(if (and (file-exists-p html-path)
 (< 0 (time-to-seconds
   (time-subtract
(nth 5 (file-attributes html-path))
(nth 5 (file-attributes file-path))
html-path
  (with-temp-filebuffer
   file-path
   (org-mode)
   (save-window-excursion
 (org-export-as-html-to-buffer nil)
 (write-file html-path)
 (kill-buffer (current-buffer)))

(defun org-file-to-latex (file-path)
  "Open up an org file, publish it to latex, and then return the
latex as a string."
  (let* ((file-name (file-name-nondirectory file-path))
 (file-dir (file-name-directory file-path))
 (latex-path (expand-file-name (concat org-interaction-prefix file-name 
".tex") file-dir)))
(if (and (file-exists-p latex-path)
 (< 0 (time-to-seconds
   (time-subtract
(nth 5 (file-attributes latex-path))
(nth 5 (file-attributes file-path))
latex-path
  (with-temp-filebuffer
   file-path
   (org-mode)
   (save-window-excursion
 (org-export-as-latex-to-buffer nil)
 (write-file latex-path)
 (kill-buffer (current-buffer)))

(defun org-file-to-pdf (file-path)
  "Open up an org file and export it as pdf."
  (let* ((file-name (file-name-sans-extension file-path))
 (file-dir (file-name-directory file-path))
 (org-tmp-path (make-temp-file "org-file-to-pdf-"))
 (pdf-tmp-path (concat org-tmp-path ".pdf"))
 (tex-tmp-path (concat org-tmp-path ".tex"))
 (pdf-path (expand-file-name (concat org-interaction-prefix file-name 
".pdf") file-dir)))
(if (and (file-exists-p pdf-path)
 (< 0 (time-to-seconds
   (time-subtract
(nth 5 (file-attributes pdf-path))
(nth 5 (file-attributes file-path))
pdf-path
  (with-temp-filebuffer
   file-path
   (write-file org-tmp-path)
   (org-mode)
   (save-window-excursion
 (org-export-as-pdf nil)
 (rename-file pdf-tmp-path pdf-path t)
 (delete-file org-tmp-path)
;; (delete-file tex-tmp-path)
 (kill-buffer (current-buffer)))

;; customization
;; (setq org-export-blocks-witheld '(hidden comment))

;; Start the server
;; (server-start)

;; save the emacsclient server socket location
;; (with-temp-file "/tmp/emacsclient-socket-dir"
;;   (insert server-socket-dir))
--8<---cut here---end--->8---


Here's the file I'm trying to convert (test.org):

--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+TITLE:   Features report
#+AUTHOR:Francesco Pizzolante
#+EMAIL: f...@missioncriticalit.com
#+DATE:  2010-04-19
#+DESCRIPTION:
#+KEYWORDS:
#+LANGUAGE: en_US

#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [a4paper]

* First test
** tatatata
--8<---cut here---end--->8---


On the command line, I run the following command:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
emacs --batch -l org-interaction.el --eval "(org-file-to-latex  \"~/test.org\")"
--8<---cut here---end--->8---


My observation is that the #+LATEX_CLASS_OPTIONS are not taken into account. I
can add any option there, I always see the default one (11pt).

It is rea

[Orgmode] Re: Automatic clock-in

2010-04-19 Thread Benjamin Andresen
Hey Andrea,

Andrea Crotti  writes:

> Or is there another better way to do already what I'm asking?

Maybe C-u M-x org-clock-in RET does what you want.

br,
benny


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Re: [Orgmode] subtitle in export?

2010-04-19 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Dan Davison wrote:


[...]

If it makes any difference, I am currently exporting to latex, then
converting to odt using mk4ht oolatex.  (aside: is there a really  
easy

way to define a new export option that automates the seond step?
right now I'm switching to a shell to do the final step, would love  
to

stop having to do that.)


Org has org-export-html-final-hook but no latex equivalent, nor a
general after-export hook? Is that right? (I feel like I must be  
missing

something there.)


All backends have a "final" hook - org-export-latex-final-hook in this  
case.


Cheers

- Carsten



But anyway, if there's no hook, a function to do it could be as simple
as

(defun my-budget-latex-export-with-post-processing ()
 (interactive)
 (if (org-export-as-latex 3)
 (shell-command
  (format "mk4ht oolatex %s.tex"
   (file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name))

You could add minibuffer messages with the `message' function.
(3 is the number of levels to use in the export, see C-h f org- 
export-as-latex)
If there's a hook, then make a function with just the shell command  
bit

and add it to the the hook.

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Re: [Orgmode] [patch] Extended link capabilities to Wanderlust messages

2010-04-19 Thread Tokuya Kameshima
Hi,

Works fine.

Thank you, David.

--Tokuya

At Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:23:04 +0200,
David Maus  wrote:
> 
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >Hi David, thanks for this!  I have applied the patch.
> >I had to apply it by hand - so please double-check.
> 
> Everything is where it belongs.
> 
>  -- David
> 
> --
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Re: [Orgmode] linking to emacs info nodes? Multiline comments?

2010-04-19 Thread Sebastian Rose
LanX  writes:
> Hi
>
> is there an easy way to insert links to the emacs info manuals?

I do it this way:

1.  C-h i
2.  Navigate to the desirec node
3.  C-c l
4.  Switch to the Org-mode buffer I want to insert the info link in.
5.  C-c C-l UP RET RET


On my system
   `C-c l'   is bound to `org-store-link'
   and `C-c C-l' is bound to `org-insert-link'.

I think those are the defaults, but you might need to set `C-c l'
globally to make it work in any mode.


> BTW: whats the recommended way to insert multi-line comments in elisp code?

There no special multiline comments.


> ATM I'm assigning a string to a dummy variable, with the drawback that
> doublequotes are forbidden:
>
> (setq org "
>   yadda yadda
> ")


 (setq org "\n   yadda yadda\n ")




HTH

  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)

2010-04-19 Thread Matthew Lundin
Hi Carsten,

Carsten Dominik  writes:

> On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I've found it quite convenient to rely on filetags to organize
>> my notes. I've written a few functions that allow me to limit my
>> agenda to a subset of agenda files that share a filetag (e.g.,
>> "emacs" or "writing"). This is a bit quicker than calling agenda
>> commands on all agenda files and then filtering afterward. It also
>> allows for greater focus on a particular area of work. Here are the
>> functions:
>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#set-agenda-files-by-filetag > >
> Hi Matt,
>
> this is very interesting!
>
> One idea:  Instead of setting the value of org-agenda-files,
> you can also restrict in the following way:
>
> (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock)
> (put 'org-agenda-files 'org-restrict my-file-list)
> (setq org-agenda-overriding-restriction 'files)
>
> The restriction sticks until you remove it with `C-c C_x >'
>
> I am not sure this will work better for your case - but maybe it will.

Thanks for the tip! That's much more elegant.

I find that (org-agenda-restriction-lock) makes subsequent calls to
my-org-agenda-files-by-filetag slow, since it refreshes the current
agenda.

Are there any potential pitfalls if I use (setq org-agenda-restrict nil)
instead? 

Thanks,
Matt


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Re: [Orgmode] linking to emacs info nodes? Multiline comments?

2010-04-19 Thread Nick Dokos
LanX  wrote:


> is there an easy way to insert links to the emacs info manuals?
> 
> the following works for commands only
> 
> [[elisp:(Info-goto-emacs-command-node "Info-goto-emacs-command-node")][Info
> goto emacs command node]]
> 

Assuming you have done the standard keybindings (C-c l for org-store-link 
everywhere
- see section 1.3, "Activation", in the Org manual for more details):

Visit the info node of interest, do C-c l to store the link, then visit an org
file and do C-c C-l to insert the link.

Here is an example of what was inserted, when I tried the above procedure
on the indicated Info node:

[[info:org:Processing%20LaTeX%20fragments][Processing LaTeX fragments]]



> BTW: whats the recommended way to insert multi-line comments in elisp code?
> 
> ATM I'm assigning a string to a dummy variable, with the drawback that
> doublequotes are forbidden:
> 
> (setq org "
>   yadda yadda
> ")
> 

I don't understand the context (why do you have to define a variable exactly?),
but you can include double quotes in a lisp string by escaping it with a 
backslash:

(setq org "
 yadda \"yadda\"
")

see section 2.3.8.1, "Syntax for Strings" in the Elisp manual.

HTH,
Nick





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Re: [Orgmode] linking to emacs info nodes? Multiline comments?

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Davison
LanX  writes:

> Hi
>
> is there an easy way to insert links to the emacs info manuals?
>
> the following works for commands only
>
> [[elisp:(Info-goto-emacs-command-node "Info-goto-emacs-command-node")][Info
> goto emacs command node]]


Hi Rolf,

Org has links to Info already. In an info buffer use org-store-link
(often bound to C-c l), then back in org use C-c C-l (org-insert-link).

>
> BTW: whats the recommended way to insert multi-line comments in elisp code?

elisp doesn't have any special mechanism other than ; at beginning of
line. But you know about M-; and M-q? Select a region of multiple lines,
M-; comments it all out (or uncomments if commented), M-q tidies it up,
keeping comment chars in correct place.

Dan

>
> ATM I'm assigning a string to a dummy variable, with the drawback that
> doublequotes are forbidden:
>
> (setq org "
>   yadda yadda
> ")
>
> Thanks for any help :)
>   Rolf
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Matthew Jones
I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before getting rid of it... it's a
good concept that needs be iterated on.

Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline
impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android
phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion.

One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with being
able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget that
will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the
application to view or adjust these items.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Martins  wrote:

> The device I was tantalized to buy was the
>
> Motorola Quench
>
> maybe mainly for Swipe feature
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpqsDnXIOY  (at about 1:00)
>
> or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone
> is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or
> European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with
> the swype feature...
>
> In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am
> afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :)
> For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing
> devices as toys or at least funny :)
>
> For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with
> agenda view would be the best.
>
> ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of
> course!)
>
> Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right?
>
> Daniel
>
> 2010/4/19 Richard Riley :
> > Eric S Fraga  writes:
> >
> >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  --- resending with a proper title ---
> >>>
> >>> Matthew,
> >>>
> >>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
> >>>
> >>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
> >>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
> >>>
> >>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
> >>>
> >>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available
> >>> keyborards are OK?
> >>>
> >>> Daniel
> >>
> >> I have the same questions!  My current mobile phone contract expires
> >> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone.  The
> >> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka
> >> the i5700.  [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet
> >> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit.  The nokia does a
> >> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.
> >>
> >> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets
> >> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> eric
> >
> >
> > +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but
> > would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs is
> > not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the
> terminals
> > I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device
> > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux
> > soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I now
> > have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient
> > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed
> > something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and
> > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs).
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[Orgmode] Automatic clock-in

2010-04-19 Thread Andrea Crotti
I'm using more and more the very nice clock functions provided by
org-mode.
I added this
--8<---cut here---start->8---
(global-set-key "\C-c\C-x\C-o" 'org-clock-out)
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

So I can clock out from every buffer without problems.
It would be nice somehow to have a similar thing for clock in also.
It's not so easy of course but most of the I clock in in the same buffer
that I last clocked out.

There could be a default choice which brings you there and otherwise
asks you to which buffer you want to clock in, something like that.

Or is there another better way to do already what I'm asking?



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[Orgmode] Re: Agenda View: Do not display items scheduled in the past

2010-04-19 Thread Matt Lundin
Friedericksen Hope  writes:

> I tried to solve this problem with the manual, but I was not very
> successfull. I have an org file with several items, nearly all with a
> timestamp. When I open the standard agenda with C-x a a I get a weekly
> view with a display of all scheduled items from the past (like missed
> items) in red below the todays appointment. (I hope you can
> understand).
>
> The items scheduled in the past are displayed ion red with a number
> like "3x" saying that it was scheduled three days before.
>
> How can I prevent orgmode from displaying these items? I only want to
> see items with a timestamp today (and, of course, deadline items in
> the next two weeks).

(setq org-scheduled-past-days 0)

Best,
Matt


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[Orgmode] linking to emacs info nodes? Multiline comments?

2010-04-19 Thread LanX
Hi

is there an easy way to insert links to the emacs info manuals?

the following works for commands only

[[elisp:(Info-goto-emacs-command-node "Info-goto-emacs-command-node")][Info
goto emacs command node]]

BTW: whats the recommended way to insert multi-line comments in elisp code?

ATM I'm assigning a string to a dummy variable, with the drawback that
doublequotes are forbidden:

(setq org "
  yadda yadda
")

Thanks for any help :)
  Rolf
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[Orgmode] Agenda View: Do not display items scheduled in the past

2010-04-19 Thread Friedericksen Hope

Dear list,

I tried to solve this problem with the manual, but I was not very successfull. I have an org file with several items, nearly all with a timestamp. When I open the standard agenda with C-x a a I get a 
weekly view with a display of all scheduled items from the past (like missed items) in red below the todays appointment. (I hope you can understand).


The items scheduled in the past are displayed ion red with a number like "3x" 
saying that it was scheduled three days before.

How can I prevent orgmode from displaying these items? I only want to see items 
with a timestamp today (and, of course, deadline items in the next two weeks).

Thank you!

Best wishes,
Friedericksen



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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] Exporter for taskjuggler

2010-04-19 Thread John Hendy
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Christian Egli wrote:

> Hi Dan
>
> Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Dan Davison  writes:
>
>
> Yes, I didn't even realize that a new version has come out as I'm still
> using the old C++ Unix-only version.
>
>
>
One note on this... I think only the new Ruby version (TJ3) supports an
actual gantt chart export... 2.4.3 (or whatever the other version is at
right now) only shows a gantt chart in the program itself if I recall
correction. It's not until TJ3 that you can get nice html output without
needing the QT-based interface.

Perhaps not a huge deal for some, but I really wanted this (gantt charts)
and did not want to be stuck with the QT interface for exporting them (or
even showing them to others). If this is the type of output being sought,
I'd stick with looking into TJ3 org-mode integration over 2.4. Or perhaps
take a look at the first of the references on how to use both: TJ 2.4 for
viewing and TJ3 for exporting?


Best regards,
John

References:
- http://www.taskjuggler.org/tj3/manual/TaskJuggler_2x_Migration.html
-
http://www.taskjuggler.org/manual-2.4.3/generating_reports_of_the_scheduled_projects.html#generating_html_reports
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Re: [Orgmode] subtitle in export?

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Davison
[...]
> If it makes any difference, I am currently exporting to latex, then
> converting to odt using mk4ht oolatex.  (aside: is there a really easy
> way to define a new export option that automates the seond step?
> right now I'm switching to a shell to do the final step, would love to
> stop having to do that.)

Org has org-export-html-final-hook but no latex equivalent, nor a
general after-export hook? Is that right? (I feel like I must be missing
something there.)

But anyway, if there's no hook, a function to do it could be as simple
as

(defun my-budget-latex-export-with-post-processing ()
  (interactive)
  (if (org-export-as-latex 3)
  (shell-command
   (format "mk4ht oolatex %s.tex"
   (file-name-sans-extension (buffer-name))

You could add minibuffer messages with the `message' function.
(3 is the number of levels to use in the export, see C-h f org-export-as-latex)
If there's a hook, then make a function with just the shell command bit
and add it to the the hook.

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[Orgmode] Re: Can I set achive or refile target to date-tree?

2010-04-19 Thread Osamu OKANO
Hi, all.
I wrote the defadvice of org-archive-subtree so that I can archive in
a date-tree.
Please (setq org-archive-location "%s_archive::date-tree"), then you
can archive in a date-tree.
http://gist.github.com/370843

Regards.


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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] Exporter for taskjuggler

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Davison
Christian Egli  writes:
[...]
>> It would also be nice if repeated invocation of
>> org-export-as-taskjuggler-and-open on the same project didn't spawn
>> multiple TJ instances (TJ v2.4.3 ubuntu).
>
> Hm, yes. Good idea. Do you have an idea how this could be done easily in
> elisp?

Is this more the reponsibility of the application?  E.g. I just did
'firefox some.png' from the shell and it opened a new tab in a running
process. So maybe it's a question of checking whether / requesting that
the new ruby implementation has a way of telling it from the shell to
open (update?) a project in an already-running TJ process.

[...]
>> Make it work if `org-odd-levels-only' is in use:
>>
>> diff --git a/org-taskjuggler.el b/org-taskjuggler.el
>> index e887d33..e843dcd 100644
>> --- a/org-taskjuggler.el
>> +++ b/org-taskjuggler.el
>> @@ -309,7 +309,7 @@ the current node such as the headline, the level, todo 
>> state
>>  information, all the properties, etc."
>>(let* ((props (org-entry-properties))
>>   (components (org-heading-components))
>> - (level (car components))
>> + (level (nth 1 components))
>>   (headline (nth 4 components))
>>   (parent-ordered (org-taskjuggler-parent-is-ordered-p)))
>>  (push (cons "level" level) props)
>
> Oh, OK, good catch. Does this also work if `org-odd-levels-only' is not
> in use?

Yes. C-h f org-heading-components says the second element differs from
the first only if org-odd-levels-only is set.

Dan


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Re: [Orgmode] Using Org for browsing and managing buffers

2010-04-19 Thread Dan Davison
> On this topic, one suggestion (which might be difficult to implement,
> however): the best thing is about org is the hierarchical nature of
> headlines.  This would seem to map well to the hierarchical nature of
> modes.  For instance, org mode is also a text mode.  Would it make
> sense to have all text mode buffers grouped with sub-modes (for want
> of a better word) as subheadings?  On the other hand, I'm not sure
> what this would add so probably ignore this... :-)

Other groupings might be good too. E.g. the comint process buffer for a
language grouped with the code files; all magit buffers in a magit tree;
all gnus buffers (summary, group, article) in a gnus tree. It seems that
the best thing might be to have a flexible way of specifying the tree
structure. E.g some way to specify "projects" for which all buffers
should be grouped together. Not sure how to implement that though.

I've also been wondering about adding recentf files (buffers you might
want, in addition to buffers you have). Then it might make sense to
present them in a hierarchy based on the filesystem location. That's
also true when grouping buffers by their directory (B def RET).

So making it work with > 2 levels of hierarchy is definitely something
worth thinking about, especially if someone has a good idea how to
specify the desired tree structure a priori.

A year or two ago someone posted code to preserve folding state of an
org buffer using an auxiliary file. Don't think it's in contrib. But I
might try to dig that out also. Anyone know where it is?

>
>> > I ask because I
>> >   don't understand what functionality it adds and the default binding
>> >   (h) conflicts with my speed keys (I use vi-like bindings for speed
>> >   motion keys).
>> 
>> I overlooked that before. I've moved it to H.
>
> Doesn't seem to work for me (pulled from git this morning, 8am BST):

Fixed, thanks!

Dan


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[Orgmode] Re: Let's TALK about it

2010-04-19 Thread Andrea Crotti
Andrea Crotti  writes:

> My talk has been accepted :)
> So now I really have to prepare something!
>
> I thought that for showing the power of org-mode and babel I could use
> something I already have
>

No news?
Here I'm also putting some slides, they should just contains list of
things.
I'm doing them in Beamer, it could be a good way to show another usage
of org-mode.

But actually I don't know if it's a good thing, after all they're just a
few slides so it might be better to make something more graphically
nice, what do you think?

For the interactive part, would be better to show different things in
separate examples or all of them in a more complex file?

What about some sort of unit testing with tables/formulas/org-babel all
together?

Could be nice to generate a table with some checks that pass only if we
get some results from the code which is automatically executed, what do
you think?



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Daniel Martins
The device I was tantalized to buy was the

Motorola Quench

maybe mainly for Swipe feature

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpqsDnXIOY  (at about 1:00)

or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone
is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or
European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with
the swype feature...

In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am
afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :)
For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing
devices as toys or at least funny :)

For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with
agenda view would be the best.

ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of course!)

Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right?

Daniel

2010/4/19 Richard Riley :
> Eric S Fraga  writes:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  --- resending with a proper title ---
>>>
>>> Matthew,
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
>>>
>>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
>>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
>>>
>>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
>>>
>>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available
>>> keyborards are OK?
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>
>> I have the same questions!  My current mobile phone contract expires
>> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone.  The
>> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka
>> the i5700.  [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet
>> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit.  The nokia does a
>> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.
>>
>> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets
>> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> eric
>
>
> +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but
> would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs is
> not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the terminals
> I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device
> either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux
> soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I now
> have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient
> being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed
> something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and
> emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs).
>
>
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[Orgmode] Re: suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Richard Riley
Eric S Fraga  writes:

> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins  
> wrote:
>> 
>>  --- resending with a proper title ---
>> 
>> Matthew,
>> 
>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
>> 
>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
>> 
>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
>> 
>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available
>> keyborards are OK?
>> 
>> Daniel
>
> I have the same questions!  My current mobile phone contract expires
> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone.  The
> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka
> the i5700.  [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet
> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit.  The nokia does a
> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.
>
> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets
> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.
>
> Thanks,
> eric


+1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but
would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs is
not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the terminals
I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device
either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux
soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I now
have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient
being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed
something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and
emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs).




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[Orgmode] subtitle in export?

2010-04-19 Thread Matt Price
Is it possible to add a subtitle when exporting an orgmode document?
Or phrased differently, can I define a multi-line title for a
document?  I don't see an obvious way to do it, though perhaps there's
a latex option I don't understand at all.

If it makes any difference, I am currently exporting to latex, then
converting to odt using mk4ht oolatex.  (aside: is there a really easy
way to define a new export option that automates the seond step?
right now I'm switching to a shell to do the final step, would love to
stop having to do that.)

thanks much as always!

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs

2010-04-19 Thread Michael Sperber

One more thing: Are patches like this one acceptable? (Needed to make
yesterday's checkout work on XEmacs)

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 7cad962..5cca11e 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -17743,7 +17743,7 @@ the functionality can be provided as a fall-back.")
   (org-set-local 'fill-paragraph-function 'org-fill-paragraph)
   ;; Adaptive filling: To get full control, first make sure that
   ;; `adaptive-fill-regexp' never matches.  Then install our own matcher.
-  (unless (local-variable-p 'adaptive-fill-regexp)
+  (unless (local-variable-p 'adaptive-fill-regexp (current-buffer))
 (org-set-local 'org-adaptive-fill-regexp-backup
adaptive-fill-regexp))
   (org-set-local 'adaptive-fill-regexp "\000")

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [Babel] Macro for begin_src?

2010-04-19 Thread Sebastian Rose

>> artist-mode has a full set of key bindings.  I never use the mouse (for
>> anything at all, if I can help it, due to RSI issues) and artist-mode is
>> perfectly usable nonetheless!  Type "C-h m" in artist-mode to see all
>> the key bindings.
>
> I am aware of the keybindings, though I tend to use the mouse myself, but
> I have never been able to get artist-mode running properly in tty.

M-x customize-variable RET org-edit-fixed-width-region-mode
and choose `picture-mode':

  `C-c >'  move right after each keypress
  `C-c <'  move left after each keypress
  `C-c ^'  move up after each keypress
  `C-c .'  move down after each keypress


Picture-mode is always active here if I do `M-x artist-mode'. I'm not
sure why. It even becomes the major mode. Might be how things work in
emacs24 as I couldn't find anything in my setup.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Support (or not) for Emacs 21, and XEmacs

2010-04-19 Thread Michael Sperber

Carsten Dominik  writes:

> The compromise for me would be this:
>
> - You fix the things above.
> - I leave the rest of the necessary compatibility code in
> - I program any new features with whatever is available
>   in Emacs 22/23 and rely on you to make it XEmacs compatible.

That would be wonderful.  I'll see that the issues are addressed:

> 1. posix character classes in regular expressions, thinks like [:alpha:]
>These are nice because they work well with arbitrary languages.
>Does XEmacs suppor these now?

No, but I'll see to it that they are.

> 2. The overlay API - I think XEmacs actually has a compatibility lib
>for these, is that correct?

Correct.

>One of the things you could do it to figure out if I can also switch
>to the API calls overlays-in and overlays-at in that library.

You should, anyway: I'll take care of any problems.  I take it something
about these didn't work for you in the past: If that is so, a sentence
or two on what those problems were would be much appreciated.

> 3. outline.el.  Last time  looked, XEmacs still had the horrible old
>outline.el which is pretty much impossible to program.
>I do have a port, xemacs/noutline.el in the Org distribution - if you
>could get that into XEmacs, that would get rid of a major annoyance,
>including complicated installation instructions.

I'm working on this right now - should be no big problem.  A few minor
incompatibilities with our current outline.el need to be addressed, but
I'm working on them.

> 4. Can you make XEmacs understand mouse-3 instead of button3 ?  Or
>maybe it does understand these by now?

No; I'll try to get this in.

Won't all happen overnight, but I'm getting to work on it.  I very much
appreciate your willingness to help!

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Re: [Orgmode] [ANN] Exporter for taskjuggler

2010-04-19 Thread Christian Egli
Hi Dan

Thanks for your feedback.

Dan Davison  writes:

> A simple org file demonstrating some of the features is the most
> important thing lacking at the moment.

I'm working on an introduction on worg. Hopefully I'll have something by
the end of this week including an example org file.
 
> I encountered problems with the fact that
>
> - I was using `org-odd-levels-only'

Oh, OK, I'm not using this, so there might be issues there.

> - the "allocate" property name is required to be lower case (unlike
>   Effort)

That's a general problem. The exporter needs to map between org and tj
terminology. In most cases this is not a problem as the terminology
comes from tj, e.g. 'limits', 'vacation' or also 'allocate'. Here I
assume that the property in org mode is named the same and capitalized
the same as in tj. I guess this should be stated in the documentation.

In other cases where the exporter needs to map between org and tj, e.g.
for effort, but also for completeness or dependency information, the
exporter is more forgiving. Specifically in the case of Effort it does
the downcase as "Effort" is an established property on org. For
completeness information it maps the TODO state (whether it is done or
not). And dependencies are taken from the BLOCKER attribute (which is
also semi-established).

I don't know if this is a good solution. I just tried to stick to the tj
property names as close as possible and only allow different names if
those concepts and names are established in org mode under a different
terminology. Hope that clears things up a bit.

> - A Resource named with Uppercase letters will be expected to be all
>   lowercase by TJ (e.g. my Alf resource below).

Well resource names in tj have to conform to [A–Za–z0–9_], so what I did
in the exporter is look for an ID attribute in the resource or silently
generate an id from the resource headline. So if do not specify an ID
your resource Alf will be converted (and made unique) in
`org-taskjuggler-get-unique-id'. I guess this is a bit behind the users
back and also needs better documentation. In your case the resource will
be downcased to 'alf'. I have resources like "Domain Expert", which will
be converted to "domain_expert". That's why I usually add an ID property
to resources so I can easily allocate them.

> I've put patches corresponding to the hacks I made to solve these below.

Thanks for the patches. More comments below. I have an updated version
locally which also supports optional depends attributes like gapduration
and gaplength (which were requested by T Helms on the list). I hope to
publish this on a branch in the repo.

> It would also be nice if repeated invocation of
> org-export-as-taskjuggler-and-open on the same project didn't spawn
> multiple TJ instances (TJ v2.4.3 ubuntu).

Hm, yes. Good idea. Do you have an idea how this could be done easily in
elisp?

> I had a quick look at the TJ page -- it sounded as if the cross-platform
> ruby version is advancing rapidly?

Yes, I didn't even realize that a new version has come out as I'm still
using the old C++ Unix-only version.

> Make it work if `org-odd-levels-only' is in use:
>
> diff --git a/org-taskjuggler.el b/org-taskjuggler.el
> index e887d33..e843dcd 100644
> --- a/org-taskjuggler.el
> +++ b/org-taskjuggler.el
> @@ -309,7 +309,7 @@ the current node such as the headline, the level, todo 
> state
>  information, all the properties, etc."
>(let* ((props (org-entry-properties))
>(components (org-heading-components))
> -  (level (car components))
> +  (level (nth 1 components))
>(headline (nth 4 components))
>(parent-ordered (org-taskjuggler-parent-is-ordered-p)))
>  (push (cons "level" level) props)

Oh, OK, good catch. Does this also work if `org-odd-levels-only' is not
in use?

> Allow variations in capitalisation of allocate property name (or maybe
> the documentation should just point out that it must be lowercase)

I'd rather have the capitalisation as closely to the tj terminology as
explained above. I'd prefer to update the documentation here.

> Always output resource names lower case

I guess this is also a documentation issue. If you know how resources
will be named (either with an ID or with
`org-taskjuggler-get-unique-id') then it should be more clear how to do
the allocations.

> More comprehensible error message if you forget to define a project...

Yes, of course. I had fixed that one already locally.

So, thanks again for the feedback. I hope to have the worg page and the
code in the branch soon so things should become clearer.

Thanks
Christian
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Re: [Orgmode] suggestions of Android smartphones

2010-04-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins  wrote:
> 
>  --- resending with a proper title ---
> 
> Matthew,
> 
> Just a suggestion for newbies.
> 
> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of
> the MobileOrg Iphone.
> 
> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
> 
> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available
> keyborards are OK?
> 
> Daniel

I have the same questions!  My current mobile phone contract expires
in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone.  The
current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka
the i5700.  [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet
tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit.  The nokia does a
really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.

I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets
approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.

Thanks,
eric

Footnotes: 
[1]  for those in the UK, the best deal is currently with T-mobile at £15 pm 
but this obviously changes day to day... 3, my current provider, are
asking £20 pm.  Both are 24 month contracts.



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[Orgmode] bug: org-decrypt-entry and org-refile

2010-04-19 Thread Richard Riley

If I create a new org-item using the following "web" template (from the
firefox browser or from within emacs itself)

("bookmarks" 119 "* %T %c %i" "bookmarks.org" top nil)

and then attempt to refile from within the creation *remember* buffer using C-c 
C-w I get:-

,
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Before first headline at position 375 
in buffer *Remember*")
|   signal(error ("Before first headline at position 375 in buffer *Remember*"))
|   error("Before first headline at position %d in buffer %s" 375 #)
|   byte-code("ÀÁ`p#‡" [error "Before first headline at position %d in buffer 
%s"] 4)
|   org-back-to-heading(t)
|   org-decrypt-entry()
|   run-hooks(org-reveal-start-hook)
|   org-reveal()
|   org-refile(nil)
|   call-interactively(org-refile nil nil)
`

Simply removing the org-reveal from the org-refile call fixes this but I
suspect some deeper work probably needs to be done in the
org-refile part to make the code aware
that the remember buffer is not the one to be concerned about after the
refile so that org-back-to-heading works.

regards

r.






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Re: [Orgmode] Capturing Reference Material for Scientific Articles Written in Orgmode

2010-04-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
On 17 Apr 2010 18:47:31 +0200, "Sven Bretfeld"  wrote:
> 
> Hi to all
> 
> For those who are interested.
> 
> [x] Do you write scientific articles in Orgmode?
> [x] Do you collect data (possible citations, ideas etc.) while reading
> books?
> [x] Do you own an Android phone?

Yes, no and no! ;-)  (mind you, I'm looking at getting an Android
phone when my current contract expires in 3 months...)

Most of my research reading is online with electronic journals so I
use a combination of the firefox org-mode links and zotero.  What
would be useful to me, if anybody has looked at this, is a link
between zotero and org-mode!  It would be great to have an automated
procedure which creates an org file which maps to the zotero
database.


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Re: [Orgmode] Using Org for browsing and managing buffers

2010-04-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:47:11 -0400, Dan Davison  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> Eric S Fraga  writes:
> [...]
> > - I like the fact I can customise RET or, more to the point, that it
> >   be consistent with the rest of org-mode.  I personally would set
> >   org-buffers-follow-link-method to 'current-window but then it would
> >   be nice to have SPC, say, open the buffer in another window, to
> >   behave consistently with org-agenda?
> 
> I've added the SPACE binding you suggest. And, although it would be
> out-of-keeping with other org-mode links, it looks like there's a good
> argument for making RET switch to the buffer in the same window, like
> dired et al. I've done that. I've put a table at the end comparing
> these bindings across a few different major modes.

Very nice summary!  Shows that there is significant inconsistency in
behaviour across typical/popular emacs modes.  Probably too late to
increase that consistency overall but I like the choices you have made
for org-buffers.

> > - what's the point of orb-buffers-toggle-heading? 
> 
> Cleaner (less starry) appearance, seeing as many buffers are named
> *Like This*.

Ah, true!

On this topic, one suggestion (which might be difficult to implement,
however): the best thing is about org is the hierarchical nature of
headlines.  This would seem to map well to the hierarchical nature of
modes.  For instance, org mode is also a text mode.  Would it make
sense to have all text mode buffers grouped with sub-modes (for want
of a better word) as subheadings?  On the other hand, I'm not sure
what this would add so probably ignore this... :-)

> > I ask because I
> >   don't understand what functionality it adds and the default binding
> >   (h) conflicts with my speed keys (I use vi-like bindings for speed
> >   motion keys).
> 
> I overlooked that before. I've moved it to H.

Doesn't seem to work for me (pulled from git this morning, 8am BST):

,
| Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p nil)
|   delete-region(nil nil)
|   (lambda (pair) (delete-region (car pair) (cdr pair)))(nil)
|   mapc((lambda (pair) (delete-region (car pair) (cdr pair))) (nil nil (4614 . 
4748) nil (4407 . 4572) nil (4204 . 4360) nil (3953 . 4169) (3695 . 3911) (3441 
. 3653) (3193 . 3403) (2947 . 3157) (2693 . 2911) (2441 . 2649) (2197 . 2405) 
(1953 . 2163) nil (1767 . 1911) nil (1561 . 1712) nil (1300 . 1524) (1131 . 
1270) (942 . 1091) (734 . 884) (555 . 696) nil (260 . 499) nil (50 . 201) nil))
|   org-buffers-delete-regions((nil nil (4614 . 4748) nil (4407 . 4572) nil 
(4204 . 4360) nil (3953 . 4169) (3695 . 3911) (3441 . 3653) (3193 . 3403) (2947 
. 3157) (2693 . 2911) (2441 . 2649) (2197 . 2405) (1953 . 2163) nil (1767 . 
1911) nil (1561 . 1712) nil (1300 . 1524) (1131 . 1270) (942 . 1091) (734 . 
884) (555 . 696) nil (260 . 499) nil (50 . 201) nil))
|   (save-excursion (goto-char (point-min)) (org-buffers-delete-regions 
(nreverse ...)))
|   (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) (save-excursion (goto-char ...) 
(org-buffers-delete-regions ...)))
|   org-buffers-delete-properties()
|   (progn (org-buffers-delete-properties) (show-all) (org-buffers-set-state 
(quote ...)))
|   (if (org-buffers-state-get :properties) (progn 
(org-buffers-delete-properties) (show-all) (org-buffers-set-state ...)) 
(org-buffers-set-state (quote ...)) (org-buffers-list (quote refresh)))
|   org-buffers-toggle-properties()
|   (if (and headings-p (org-buffers-state-get :properties)) 
(org-buffers-toggle-properties))
|   (let ((inhibit-read-only t) (headings-p ...) (flat-p ...)) (if (and 
headings-p ...) (org-buffers-toggle-properties)) (save-excursion (goto-char 
...) (if ... ...) (if flat-p ... ...) (mark-whole-buffer) (indent-region ... 
...)) (org-buffers-set-state (\` ...)))
|   org-buffers-toggle-headings()
|   call-interactively(org-buffers-toggle-headings nil nil)
`

> > - In column view mode (which I also have not figured out why it would
> >   be used...), the heading uses a different font size than the normal
> >   entries so the headings don't line up at all.  This may be my fault,
> >   however.
> 
> I don't see this.

doesn't seem to happen to me now.  I may have imagined it...

> > - if I bring up the buffers list a second time, having created a new
> >   buffer in the meantime, the new buffer does not appear until I hit
> >   'g'.  I think any invocation of org-buffers-list should do an
> >   automatic update of the list.
> 
> A C-u prefix to org-buffers-list now forces update. I don't think I
> agree that it should be default. Speed is my concern -- I'd like it

Okay.  I understand the motivation.  It comes down to the difference
in behaviour between the default buffers listing approach in emacs and
the way dired works.  As long as I remember that it's more like dired,
I'm happy!

> > - Lastly, it would be nice to either avoid the single blank line at
> >   the start of the buffer or have point be at the first heading.
> >   Having point at the first (e

Re: [Orgmode] Re: [Babel] Macro for begin_src?

2010-04-19 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 00:24:46 + (UTC), Shelagh Manton 
 wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:44:24 +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> > 
> > artist-mode has a full set of key bindings.  I never use the mouse (for
> > anything at all, if I can help it, due to RSI issues) and artist-mode is
> > perfectly usable nonetheless!  Type "C-h m" in artist-mode to see all
> > the key bindings.
> 
> I am aware of the keybindings, though I tend to use the mouse myself, but 
> I have never been able to get artist-mode running properly in tty. If you 
> have, I would be interested to know if you had to tweak anything to get 
> it to work or whether it is the usual "my set-up is screwy and I don't 
> know why" syndrome.

I do find artist-mode to be quite finicky (maybe it is less so using
the mouse but I've not really tried it that way) so I have a feeling
that your problems are due to artist-mode itself.  I've not tweaked
anything however.  In any case, I use it less and less, doing most
drawing with either graphviz (dot et al.) and tikz (in latex).

Sorry I can't be more helpful.


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[Orgmode] Django Web-org Project: Helped Needed

2010-04-19 Thread Christopher Long

Dear All,

 I've been writing a django based web-app to use from a blackberry (or 
the web or any device).
I have the basic frame-work working in admin mode, but there is still 
much to be done.


 If you have solid django experience and are interested in volunteering 
on this project to bring
it to fruition, let me know.  I know python reasonably well and have 
been teaching myself django
with this project, but it'd be great to have people who have the 
following skills to contribute:

- lisp knowledge
- git use
- django web design skills, or
- strong python/django involved.

My intention is to make it work first for people who can run it
on their own web-server and then look into making it a web-app.  I'm not 
in this to make money,
but rather have access to org-mode TODO lists on all my devices in a 
centralized/update-able way.

And then to share that with the community.

 Please ONLY respond (and respond directly to me stoph at alum.mit.edu)
if you are in a position to help in the above ways.  There will be later 
announcements

about the project for those who want to use it.

Status:

Tasks completed:
- converting .org files into SQL
- converting SQL into .org text files
- displaying and manipulating information in django's admin mode

Tasks which remain for stage one:
- Synchronizing the web-org information with org-mode using the 
mobile-org tools/methods from Carsten/Richard.
- Creation of django views which look good on many mobile devices (and 
also ones for the full-screen viewing)

- Making the conversion code bullet-proof and the interface intuitive.

Thanks,

Stoph


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[Orgmode] Re: [Babel] Macro for begin_src?

2010-04-19 Thread Štěpán Němec
Dan Davison  writes:
> I guess, for Nate's original application (converting existing code to
> src blocks), what might have been most useful is something to enclose a
> given region in a source block. Can anyone show how to do that with
> yasnippet (or anything else)?

I don't have a ready-to-use snippet, but this is what you need:

http://yasnippet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/snippet-development.html#yas-wrap-around-region


HTH,

  Štěpán


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Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] Trivial fix for "%3f" in URL bug

2010-04-19 Thread Ivan Vilata i Balaguer
Carsten Dominik (2010-03-17 12:04:37 +0100) dixit::

> On Mar 17, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Ivan Vilata i Balaguer wrote:
> 
> >Fixing the old behaviour is trivial: just remove the ``(?? .
> >"%3F")`` entry
> >from the ``org-link-escape-chars`` list in ``org.el``.
> 
> OK, I have applied this patch, thanks.  I am, however, wondering if this
> does the right thing consistently, for example also when adding URLs
> containing a question mark using `C-c C-l'.  Or when editing a link
> with `C-c C-l' while the cursor is on it.  Maybe you or others can make
> a few more tests in this direction?

I've tested those behaviours in the new, fixed release and they all seem to be
ok.  HTML export also works correctly.  Thanks!

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  Ivan Vilata i Balaguer -- http://ivan.lovesgazpacho.net/


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