Re: [Bulk] [Orgmode] Column width in export

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Vincent,

rather than fixing the documentation, I have modified orgmode to  
automatically remove lines that contatin only formatting cookies.


Thanks for triggering this.

- Carsten

On Apr 16, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Vincent Belaïche wrote:


Thanks Giovanni,

The documentation is however incomplete, the info node (org) Column
groups does not says that the `/' in the first field has the effect  
of

excluding the row from export. Actually when you read this info node,
what you (or better said I) understand is that the `/' indicates that
this special row is used to specify column grouping.

Therefore I propose the attached patch to documentation.

  Vincent.

PS-1: Sorry if sometimes I disturbe this group with naive questions.
PS-2: This is a resend, it seems that the previous message was not
dispatched due to this that I made a too big attachement (tarzipped
complete manual old and new version in addition to patch).
Change log:
###
2010-04-16 Vincent Belaïche vincent@hotmail.fr

	* org.texi (Column width and alignment): add information how to  
exclude

special row from export.
Patch:
###
*** org.texi.oldFri Apr 16 19:57:15 2010
--- org.texiFri Apr 16 20:07:59 2010
***
*** 1862,1867 
--- 1862,1884 
 @samp{l} in a similar fashion.  You may also combine alignment  
and field

 width like this: @samp{l10}.

+ To exclude the special row containing the column width and/or  
alignment from
+ being exported, insert a dummy first column with @samp{/} in the  
field that
+ is on the special row, like this (considering the same example as  
previously):

+
+ @example
+ @group
+ |---+---+|
+ | / |   | 6|
+ | # | 1 | one|
+ | # | 2 | two|
+ | # | 3 | This= |
+ | # | 4 | four   |
+ |---+---+|
+ @end group
+ @end example
+
+
 @node Column groups, Orgtbl mode, Column width and alignment, Tables
 @section Column groups
 @cindex grouping columns in tables


From: giovanni.rido...@yahoo.it
To: vincent@hotmail.fr
CC: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Bulk] [Orgmode] Column width in export
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:26:31 +0200

Vincent Belaïche vincent@hotmail.fr writes:


| salut | dsdd |
| 30 | |
| gvrag f gfegegergrgh rghrghr ghrh =| gerg |

When exported to HTML there is one table row with `30' in it. Is  
there
anyway to make this row not exported as a row (but possibly  
exploited in

other ways) ?


In the manual, in the table section, subsection Column groups
it is written:

 In order to specify column groups, you can use a special row  
where the
first field contains only `/'. The further fields can either  
contain 


Before posting, please, read, or, at least, search, skim the manual
to find a possible solution.

Giovanni

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Agenda View window splits vertically

2010-04-28 Thread Livin Stephen Sharma
Juri,
Since i prefer horizontal splitting in most contexts
this is what I put into my .emacs:

 ;; 1. window gets split horizontally (one on TOP of the other), AND
 ;; 2. AFTER splitting, further C-x 4 b will NOT lead to any more splitting 
 - reuse gets preferred
 (setq split-height-threshold 40) ; nil
 (setq split-width-threshold nil) ; 100



some unrelated customizations I made at the time (since I want the agenda front 
and center when I'm looking at it):
 (setq org-agenda-window-setup 'reorganize-frame)
 (setq org-agenda-restore-windows-after-quit t)
 (setq org-agenda-window-frame-fractions '(1.0 . 1.0))

Livin Stephen Sharma





On Apr 28, 2010, at 24:09:57 , Manish Sharma wrote:

 Juri Artamonov writes:
 
 Guys,
 
 I'm newbie in emacs. Could please advice. Somehow I get my agenda view
 appears vertically, i.e from the right side from my org file.
 
 I open org file then press C-c a and I see Agenda Commands in the
 window to the right, not to the bottom as it was before. Could you
 please advice, how to make it back and make agenda view open
 horizontally?
 
 I suspect I did not quite understand but this might help:
 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#sec-8
 
 HTH
 -- 
 Manish
 
 
 
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[Orgmode] Recursive calender item

2010-04-28 Thread Juri Artamonov
Hello Guys,


could you please advice how to make TODO item to be recursive in Agenda.
Let's say item to be every week at 19:00 Tuesday. Then after I pointed it as
DONE for this week, it's still as TODO item for next week and so on. Is it
possible?

Thank you,
  Juri.
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Re: [Orgmode] Recursive calender item

2010-04-28 Thread Ian Barton





could you please advice how to make TODO item to be recursive in Agenda.
Let's say item to be every week at 19:00 Tuesday. Then after I pointed
it as DONE for this week, it's still as TODO item for next week and so
on. Is it possible?



** TODO Put out dustbin
   SCHEDULED: 2010-05-05 Wed +1w

This repeats every week.

The Repeated tasks section in the manual explains more options. See 
http://orgmode.org/manual/Repeated-tasks.html#Repeated-tasks


Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] Recursive calender item

2010-04-28 Thread Thomas S. Dye


On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Juri Artamonov wrote:


Hello Guys,


could you please advice how to make TODO item to be recursive in  
Agenda. Let's say item to be every week at 19:00 Tuesday. Then after  
I pointed it as DONE for this week, it's still as TODO item for next  
week and so on. Is it possible?


Thank you,
  Juri.
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Aloha Juri,

Perhaps this is what you want?

http://orgmode.org/org.html#Repeated-tasks

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Re: [Orgmode] Recursive calender item

2010-04-28 Thread Juri Artamonov
Thank you Guys. I did search for recursive instead of repeat.

This is what I need.

Have a good day,
  Juri.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:


 On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Juri Artamonov wrote:

 Hello Guys,


 could you please advice how to make TODO item to be recursive in Agenda.
 Let's say item to be every week at 19:00 Tuesday. Then after I pointed it as
 DONE for this week, it's still as TODO item for next week and so on. Is it
 possible?

 Thank you,
   Juri.
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 Aloha Juri,

 Perhaps this is what you want?

 http://orgmode.org/org.html#Repeated-tasks

 HTH,
 Tom

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[Orgmode] Easter without using org-agenda-holidays?

2010-04-28 Thread andrew mcintosh
I'm Canadian and have made an .org file including all the major Canadian 
holidays in it except for the Easter holidays.  Is there a way to include it 
without using org-agenda-holidays?  I'm not interested in knowing when it's 
Columbus Day, and more importantly, the American Thanksgiving is conflicts with 
the Canadian Thanksgiving (they're not even in the same month!)


  


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[Orgmode] Re: Suggestions needed for handling ideas

2010-04-28 Thread Bernt Hansen


Sébastien Vauban wxhgmqzgwmuf-genee64ty+gs+fvcfc7...@public.gmane.org
writes:

 I really am puzzled by using a TODO state for saying this is a note.

 For me, a so-called TODO state is a circumstance (or a mode), so one
 transitional property on a cycle. That's something that evolves over time,
 such as:

 TODO - NEXT - STARTED - WAITING - DONE

 A NOTE does not belong to such cycles. It's just some kind of property.

 I would be more inclined to view a NOTE property as a tag, but that does not
 satisfy me neither. Tags are for contexts, mainly resources we need to have at
 hand, or locations we need to be, or time ranges in which the action makes
 sense.

I think that's too narrow a view for tags.  Tags should be whatever is
useful.  It can be a context, or resources you need, or locations, or
anything else that is useful.

I use arbitrary tags to match items with an external tracking system -
and use the id of that system so I can match them easily.  I also
use :NOTE: for notes.  It works for my needs just fine.  Tags are not
and should not be limited to context only.  I also use tags for special
todo states... if I cancel a task I give it a CANCELLED tag too ... so
any subtask of the cancelled task is obviously cancelled and unavailable
to work on.

-Bernt



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Re: [Orgmode] Easter without using org-agenda-holidays?

2010-04-28 Thread Ian Barton

On 28/04/10 05:00, andrew mcintosh wrote:

I'm Canadian and have made an .org file including all the major Canadian 
holidays in it except for the Easter holidays.  Is there a way to include it 
without using org-agenda-holidays?  I'm not interested in knowing when it's 
Columbus Day, and more importantly, the American Thanksgiving is conflicts with 
the Canadian Thanksgiving (they're not even in the same month!)


I think the simplest way is just to include the actual date in your org 
file. If you want a challenge here are a couple of ways of finding the 
date for Easter using elisp. You might be able to use this to return a 
diary sexp, that you can include in your org file:


http://github.com/soren/elisp/blob/master/da-kalender.el
http://www.opensource.apple.com/source/emacs/emacs-54/emacs/lisp/calendar/holidays.el?txt

Ian.


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[Orgmode] Changed org-icalendar.el

2010-04-28 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Dear Org-mode developers,

Hi. I'm just a user of the org-mode.
First of all, many thanks to you since
you have provided the best tool for Emacs.

Lately, I added a description attribute to the iCal export function 
in lisp/org-icalendar.el.
The new function allows to display a description of
the exported iCal file.

I checked it's validation on the following environment.

- MacOSX Snow Leopard 10.6.3
- GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (386-apple-darwin9.8.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
- OrgMode the latest version (2010-04-28)
- iCal.app

Please review my contribution, and merge this small change
to the origin if you find the need.

GIT PATH: git://github.com/takaxp/org-mode.git
BRANCH NAME: master

Best regards,
Takaaki ISHIKAWA




--- ( ' -')b
Takaaki ISHIKAWA,
GITI, Waseda University
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tak...@ieee.org (alias)
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[Orgmode] MobileOrg has a nice website

2010-04-28 Thread Leo
Hello,

I just look at the mobileorg website and find the web design rather
pleasing. Well done!

Leo



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[Orgmode] org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled setting not affecting custom agenda

2010-04-28 Thread Paul Mead
Hi

I've got some custom agendas set up, see the extract from my org config
file below.

If I use one of the built-in agenda comands, for instance C-c a t any
scheduled todos are omitted as expected. If I select any of my custom
agenda commands, they are not.

Any idea why this would be?

Thanks, Paul


;; Agenda settings

(setq org-agenda-start-with-log-mode t)
(setq org-agenda-include-diary t)
(setq org-agenda-ndays 1)
(setq org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil)
(setq org-agenda-tags-column 120)
(setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled 'all)
(setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines nil)
(setq org-enforce-todo-dependencies t)
(setq org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks t)
(setq org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t)
(setq org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t)
(setq org-agenda-skip-timestamp-if-done t)
(setq org-agenda-skip-unavailable-files t)
(setq org-agenda-window-setup 'current-window)
(setq org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)
(setq org-agenda-prefix-format
 '((agenda .   %-20:c%?-12t% s)
   (timeline .   % s)
   (todo .   %-20:c)
   (tags .   %-20:c)
   (search .   %-20:c)))
(setq org-agenda-todo-keyword-format %-10s)

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
   '((a Custom block Agenda
  ((agenda )
   (todo STARTED)
   (tags-todo FOCUS/!-STARTED-WAITING
 ((org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled t)
 (d DONE list todo DONE
  ((org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled nil)
   (org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date nil)
   (org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines nil)))
 (p Project list tags project)
 (c Call list tags-todo phone
  ((ps-number-of-columns 1)
   (ps-landscape-mode t)
   (org-agenda-prefix-format  %-20:c [ ]  )
   (Orgae-agenda-with-colors nil)
   (org-agenda-remove-tags t))
  (~/My Dropbox/calls.ps))
 (o In the office
  ((tags-todo @office)
   (tags-todo online)
   (tags-todo pc)
   (tags-todo phone)
   (tags-todo penpaper)
  ))
 (h Working from home
  ((tags-todo wfh)
   (tags-todo online)
   (tags-todo pc)
   (tags-todo phone)
   (tags-todo penpaper)
   ))
 (f FOCUS list tags-todo FOCUS
  ((org-agenda-overriding-header Focus actions:
)




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Re: [Orgmode] Is this the best place for noob questions too?

2010-04-28 Thread Ian Barton

On 27/04/10 23:00, David Frascone wrote:


I notice that you guys all seem to be VERY MUCH experts in orgmode. . .
my questions are all very . . urm . . RTFM'ish, or just noobish.

Should I be posting them somewhere else?  I'm still incorporating
org-mode into my life, and making many mistakes . . . but, I love the
simplicity.

I'm also loving having emacs back in my life too.  Last night, I
remotely edited some files on my web server.  I've been doing that for a
while with sshfs, but, I forgot how seamless you can do it with emacs. .
. pretty much deprecated sshfs for me (in the way I use it -- I'm either
editing a lot of stuff, or I ssh over, or I rsync -- I had been using
sshfs for the editing, and now no longer need to!)

Anyway, thanks for the answers so far, and thanks for the new ones that
will surely come when I get confused again.  I think my next goal is to
come up with some way to use multiple files to help my organizaition . .
and somehow link them together.  (Don't tell me . . still reading the
fine manual!)


I have been using org-mode for about three years and I am still a 
noobie:) Asking questions here helps future users, because the answers 
are then available via the list's history.


Org is capable of doing so many things that most people only use a 
subset of the available features. Quite often when browsing the list I 
find posts that give me ideas of a new way of doing something, or 
introduce me to some feature I wasn't aware of.


Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] Is this the best place for noob questions too?

2010-04-28 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:31:18 +1200, Adam ah...@ihug.co.nz wrote:
 
 On Wednesday 28 April 2010 10:00 am, David Frascone wrote:
  I notice that you guys all seem to be VERY MUCH experts in orgmode. . . my
  questions are all very . . urm . . RTFM'ish, or just noobish.

[...]

 As fellow newbie, I sometimes wonder myself.  This list is high traffic, 
 with much on add-in Org-mode packs, hacks and source bug-fixes. 

David  Adam,

don't worry.  Although I may not speak for the others on this list, I
think most people here are perfectly happy to have questions from
newbies!  The more people that use org mode, the better.

All I would say is that, besides the manual, you have good trawl
through the Worg website that has very many useful tutorials and
descriptions of different usage scenarios and workflows.  I found Worg
indispensable when getting started with org.

But please don't feel afraid to ask what might seem like silly
questions.  The worst that will happen is that you get pointed to one
of the sections in the manual...
-- 
Eric S Fraga, GnuPG Fingerprint: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29  570D C891 93D8 FFFC 
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[Orgmode] Re: org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled setting not affecting custom agenda

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Lundin
Paul Mead paul.d.m...@gmail.com writes:

 If I use one of the built-in agenda comands, for instance C-c a t any
 scheduled todos are omitted as expected. If I select any of my custom
 agenda commands, they are not.

As far as I can see, there is only one custom command to which the
ignore option would apply: the todo STARTED search in a (the
custom block agenda). 

It looks as if most of your custom agenda commands are tags-todo
searches. Try the following setting:

(setq org-agenda-tags-todo-honor-ignore-options t)

Best,
Matt


 ;; Agenda settings

 (setq org-agenda-start-with-log-mode t)
 (setq org-agenda-include-diary t)
 (setq org-agenda-ndays 1)
 (setq org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil)
 (setq org-agenda-tags-column 120)
 (setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled 'all)
 (setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines nil)
 (setq org-enforce-todo-dependencies t)
 (setq org-agenda-dim-blocked-tasks t)
 (setq org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t)
 (setq org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t)
 (setq org-agenda-skip-timestamp-if-done t)
 (setq org-agenda-skip-unavailable-files t)
 (setq org-agenda-window-setup 'current-window)
 (setq org-archive-default-command 'org-archive-to-archive-sibling)
 (setq org-agenda-prefix-format
  '((agenda .   %-20:c%?-12t% s)
(timeline .   % s)
(todo .   %-20:c)
(tags .   %-20:c)
(search .   %-20:c)))
 (setq org-agenda-todo-keyword-format %-10s)

 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'((a Custom block Agenda
   ((agenda )
(todo STARTED)
(tags-todo FOCUS/!-STARTED-WAITING
  ((org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled t)
  (d DONE list todo DONE
   ((org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled nil)
(org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date nil)
(org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines nil)))
  (p Project list tags project)
  (c Call list tags-todo phone
   ((ps-number-of-columns 1)
(ps-landscape-mode t)
(org-agenda-prefix-format  %-20:c [ ]  )
(Orgae-agenda-with-colors nil)
(org-agenda-remove-tags t))
   (~/My Dropbox/calls.ps))
  (o In the office
   ((tags-todo @office)
(tags-todo online)
(tags-todo pc)
(tags-todo phone)
(tags-todo penpaper)
   ))
  (h Working from home
   ((tags-todo wfh)
(tags-todo online)
(tags-todo pc)
(tags-todo phone)
(tags-todo penpaper)
))
  (f FOCUS list tags-todo FOCUS
   ((org-agenda-overriding-header Focus actions:
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[Orgmode] [enhancement request] Re: Recursive calender item

2010-04-28 Thread Richard Riley
Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com writes:

 On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Juri Artamonov wrote:

 Hello Guys,

 could you please advice how to make TODO item to be recursive in Agenda. 
 Let's say item to be every week at 19:00 Tuesday. Then after I pointed it as 
 DONE for this week, it's still as TODO
 item for next week and so on. Is it possible?

 Thank you,
   Juri.
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 Aloha Juri,

 Perhaps this is what you want?

 http://orgmode.org/org.html#Repeated-tasks

 HTH,
 Tom

 

I think a better operation be for org-mode to duplicate the repeated
task +n ahead when marked as done and create a non repeat version of
the original as done so it leaves a marked done item in the agenda at
the original date.



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[Orgmode] Newbie - How to end plain list?

2010-04-28 Thread Marco Alberti

Dear Org users,
I have been using Org for a few days and loving it.
Now I am stuck on a little problem that probably has an obvious  
solution that I'm missing. Suppose I want to type this note:


* Section title
  Some plain text.
  - One item
  - One more item
  Back to plain text.

If the cursor is at the end of the second item line, is there a  
command to resume the plain text indentation on the new line? Return  
and TAB place the cursor below the O in the second item line, and  
from there the best I came up with is to backspace twice. I would  
expect some structure-aware command, but I couldn't find one.


I am using Aquamacs on Mac OS X. I also tried Emacs 23 on Windows and  
I see no difference.


Thanks,
Marco
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[Orgmode] Re: org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled setting not affecting custom agenda

2010-04-28 Thread Paul Mead
Thanks Matt, that did the trick. I didn't consider that tags-todo
might behave differently.

Cheers
Paul

On 28 April 2010 12:54, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:
 Paul Mead paul.d.m...@gmail.com writes:

 If I use one of the built-in agenda comands, for instance C-c a t any
 scheduled todos are omitted as expected. If I select any of my custom
 agenda commands, they are not.

 As far as I can see, there is only one custom command to which the
 ignore option would apply: the todo STARTED search in a (the
 custom block agenda).

 It looks as if most of your custom agenda commands are tags-todo
 searches. Try the following setting:

 (setq org-agenda-tags-todo-honor-ignore-options t)

 Best,
 Matt



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Feasibility investigation: org-mode paper

2010-04-28 Thread Daniel Martins
I dont think a (completely :) silly idea. A smartphone will probably
never substitute pen and paper!

In fact most of my notes are taken on a notepad with a an attached
pen. In fact, I have just found a pen with an internal mechanism which
turns it long enough when I write and short enough to do not pierce my
trousers.

If you do such a miracle I would be glad to try (not in a beta
phase!). But I feel the efforts will be hardly rewarded.

The write process is good for the mind and is prone of errors. When we
transcript the text to an editor (in fact to THE editor) we correct
some mistakes.

Anyway, keep in touch!

Daniel


2010/4/26 Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de:
 Torsten Wagner torsten.wag...@gmail.com wrote:

 [...]
 As I said it is just a silly idea, maybe not really useful
 but I thought it would be at least nice to make a
 proof-of-principle. Finally, with the increase of ebook
 readers with touch screens, digital pens, tablets and
 netbooks with touchscreens, this might become even more
 interesting.

 Happy to hear any opinion.

 Not wanting to call it silly :-), but I think the major ad-
 vantage of any electronic thingy compared to pen and paper
 is that you can rearrange the structure and correct any mis-
 takes you make. I wouldn't want to have to pen down any text
 without this capability.

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Re: [Orgmode] Newbie - How to end plain list?

2010-04-28 Thread Sebastian Rose
Marco Alberti m.albe...@fct.unl.pt writes:
 Dear Org users,
 I have been using Org for a few days and loving it.
 Now I am stuck on a little problem that probably has an obvious solution that
 I'm missing. Suppose I want to type this note:

 * Section title
   Some plain text.
   - One item
   - One more item
   Back to plain text.

 If the cursor is at the end of the second item line, is there a command to
 resume the plain text indentation on the new line? Return  and TAB place the
 cursor below the O in the second item line, and  from there the best I came 
 up
 with is to backspace twice. I would  expect some structure-aware command, 
 but
 I couldn't find one.

Hi Marco,

you couldn't find it because it doesn't exist, unfortunately.


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Re: [Orgmode] Changed org-icalendar.el

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Applied, thanks.

- Carsten

On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Takaaki ISHIKAWA wrote:


Dear Org-mode developers,

Hi. I'm just a user of the org-mode.
First of all, many thanks to you since
you have provided the best tool for Emacs.

Lately, I added a description attribute to the iCal export function
in lisp/org-icalendar.el.
The new function allows to display a description of
the exported iCal file.

I checked it's validation on the following environment.

- MacOSX Snow Leopard 10.6.3
- GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (386-apple-darwin9.8.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
- OrgMode the latest version (2010-04-28)
- iCal.app

Please review my contribution, and merge this small change
to the origin if you find the need.

GIT PATH: git://github.com/takaxp/org-mode.git
BRANCH NAME: master

Best regards,
Takaaki ISHIKAWA




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Re: [Orgmode] org-html link building diff

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Tom,

On Apr 28, 2010, at 5:01 AM, Tom Breton (Tehom) wrote:



The changes are essentially made and pass my tests now, there's mostly
housekeeping now: pull, merge, push.


Yes.  Send me your name on repo.or.cz and I'll add push for you.
Please create your own branch and stay on it.


It is Tehom.


I have added you.




This is for having a clickable Thumbnail - I am not sure if this is
also handled elsewhere.


I believe it is.  The only difference seems to be that the first
builds:

: a href=foo/target.htmlimg src=some.jpg/a

all by itself and the second builds:

: img src=some.jpg href=foo/target.html

thru `org-export-html-format-image'.


Are these equivalent?

My brain is a black hole as to why I might have made two ways.

When you have made you branch, be sure to get Sebastian Rose try it  
out - I think he has lots of image links in his setup.



 Only the second handles
captions.  If the captions etc are the issue, then it should all go
thru the second.  Plus, `org-export-html-format-image' seems to be the
right place for image code.  It would be bad if changes added to
`org-export-html-format-image' didn't take because this other code
handled it instead.

A few questions:

* Encountered while writing tests: When type is file and path is an
  absolute filename, we do substitutions.  Like /foo/unfoo/.././baz
  becomes /foo/baz.  But we don't do them when path is relative.
  Why not?

  Is that just because we'd then need to make it relative again which
  is more code, or is there some other reason?


Maybe the reason is that the exporten/published result will live  
somewhere else, and a relative path need to remain relative in order  
to make things work correctly.




* Also found in the course of testing: id: links cause errors when
  buffer is not associated with a file.  This can happen when the arg
  body-only is passed.

  * Punt id links in that case?

  * Do them but avoid the filename relativizing step?



I guess either one i OK with me.  How about the people whi use this  
for jekyl bloggin engines, what would be the right behavior for them?


* How do you feel about url-parse?  It's bundled with emacs, builds
  and destructures urls.  IMO we're not at the stage where it
  provides more help than the extra work it requires yet.


If it (our code) works, don't fix it.


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[Orgmode] Custom agenda view - filter by priority AND scheduled date

2010-04-28 Thread Barton
Greetings org-mode,

In my workflow, I move by priorities and scheduled dates for the tasks. My goal 
with this issue is to have a view that would show me only the tasks with 
certain priority(-ies) that are scheduled for today (or are overdue, as in  
(org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all t) ).

My feeble attempt here:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((c Custom
 ((agenda  ((org-agenda-ndays 1))) 
  (tags-todo +PRIORITY=\A\)))
;; ...other commands here
))

... displays a usual daily agenda and following it, _all_ the #A tasks that I 
have. Clearly not what has been intended.

After wrapping my head around it, I suspect that the only way to achieve the 
desired functionality is through using/modifying org-agenda.el functions to 
have a filter, similar to that in 'C-c a a' view for tags (/ - Tab), only 
this time for priorities.

Is this the best way to do this and how would one go about it? Perhaps there 
exists a better way to achieve the same functionality?


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Re: [Orgmode] [BUG] latex superscript and documentation bugs

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Dan Davison wrote:


Org:
x^{(0)}

becomes [note missing parenthesis]

LaTeX:
x$^{\mathrm{(0}}$


This is now fixed.



(Emacs 24 with Org 6.35i and also with current Org-mode HEAD)

Also, two possible documentation bugs:

1
=

http://orgmode.org/manual/Images-and-tables.html#Images-and-tables

says

   You can use the following lines somewhere before the table to  
assign

   a caption and a label for cross references, and in the text you can
   refer to the object with \ref{tab:basic-data}:

I think that is a LaTeX-specific comment in a non-LaTeX specific  
manual

section? Should it say and if exporting to LaTeX, in the text you can
refer to the object...?


No, this works also in HTML.  It should, anyway.





2
==

In the docstring for org-export-latex-classes it says

   So a header like

 \documentclass{article}
 [NO-DEFAULT-PACKAGES]
 [EXTRA]
 \providecommand{\alert}[1]{\textbf{#1}}
 [PACKAGES]

   will omit the default packages,

I wonder whether it would be better to show the double backslashes (\ 
\)
explicitly, seeing as the user will need to escape them in this way,  
or

at least to warn the reader.


You can add a warning - but this depends on whether you use customize  
or not to edit the variable.


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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Marco
Hello,

 I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
 document - or if the existence of this document would lead
 to more confusion than relief.

    http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

This is IMHO a much appreciated relief.

Carsten, many thanks for all your efforts,
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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Thomas S. Dye


On Apr 28, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:


Dear all,

with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
of the manual.

So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
everything which could be considered advanced material, but
keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
document - or if the existence of this document would lead
to more confusion than relief.

   http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
and constantly updated document.

Comments are welcome.

- Carsten



Aloha Carsten,

I think this is a terrific idea, immediately useful.

The addition of hyperref links back to the advanced material in the  
manual might be useful and shouldn't require much maintenance.


A section at the end of each chapter, Additional Reading, with links  
to Worg articles, etc. might also prove useful, but could be a pain to  
maintain.


All the best,
Tom


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Re: [Orgmode] Is this the best place for noob questions too?

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 David  Adam,

 don't worry.  Although I may not speak for the others on this list, I
 think most people here are perfectly happy to have questions from
 newbies!  The more people that use org mode, the better.

 All I would say is that, besides the manual, you have good trawl
 through the Worg website that has very many useful tutorials and
 descriptions of different usage scenarios and workflows.  I found Worg
 indispensable when getting started with org.

 But please don't feel afraid to ask what might seem like silly
 questions.  The worst that will happen is that you get pointed to one
 of the sections in the manual...


Glad to hear it . . . I just read the manual, cover to cover, on a flight,
and I have MANY more questions . . hehe . . . I'll send them in separate
e-mails :)

-Dave
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[Orgmode] Re: [enhancement request] Re: Recursive calender item

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Lundin
Richard Riley rileyrg...@gmail.com writes:

 I think a better operation be for org-mode to duplicate the repeated
 task +n ahead when marked as done and create a non repeat version of
 the original as done so it leaves a marked done item in the agenda at
 the original date.


I believe one can already accomplish this in a couple of ways:

1. By setting the variable org-log-repeat to time and using the agenda's
   log view to browse completed tasks.

2. By using org-clone-subtree-with-time-shift to create multiple
   instances of a todo at specified intervals.

Best,
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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Dan Davison
Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu writes:

 Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Dear all,

 with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
 starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
 when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
 of the manual.

 So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
 everything which could be considered advanced material, but
 keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

 What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
 structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
 I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
 document - or if the existence of this document would lead
 to more confusion than relief.

 http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

 I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
 as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
 updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
 and constantly updated document.

 Comments are welcome.

Hi Carsten,

I think this would be a good thing to have. 

It would be good to have active HTML links to the relevant main manual
sections in PDF and HTML versions. (even if this is not encouraged by
texinfo format).

I'm tempted to suggest going even a little further than you have done.
If you were to make it shorter, I would suggest removing the following
sections, and to replace removed sections with very short non-technical
advertisements for features that are covered in the main manual.

- 2.8 Drawers
- 3.2 Column width and alignment
- 3.3 The Spreadsheet (4 rather technical pages)
- 7.4 Property Inheritance and 7.5 Column View
  (do beginners really need properties at all ??)

Dan


 I think it's a great idea.  The R project has something called An
 Introduction to R for beginners, separate from the complete manual.
 I think that as a beginner, and wondering how to break into learning a
 new package, that reading the manual has certain negative
 psychological connotations that reading the intro document does not,
 not the least of which is the length of full manual.

 And since knowing just the basics of org can be immensely beneficial,
 I think it's even more reason to have a basic intro document.

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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Dan Davison
Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu writes:

 Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Dear all,

 with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
 starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
 when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
 of the manual.

 So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
 everything which could be considered advanced material, but
 keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

 What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
 structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
 I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
 document - or if the existence of this document would lead
 to more confusion than relief.

 http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

 I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
 as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
 updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
 and constantly updated document.

 Comments are welcome.

Hi Carsten,

I think this would be a good thing to have. 

It would be good to have active HTML links to the relevant main manual
sections in PDF and HTML versions. (even if this is not encouraged by
texinfo format).

I'm tempted to suggest going even a little further than you have done.
If you were to make it shorter, I would suggest removing the following
sections, and to replace removed sections with very short non-technical
advertisements for features that are covered in the main manual.

- 2.8 Drawers
- 3.2 Column width and alignment
- 3.3 The Spreadsheet (4 rather technical pages)
- 7.4 Property Inheritance and 7.5 Column View
  (do beginners really need properties at all ??)

Dan


 I think it's a great idea.  The R project has something called An
 Introduction to R for beginners, separate from the complete manual.
 I think that as a beginner, and wondering how to break into learning a
 new package, that reading the manual has certain negative
 psychological connotations that reading the intro document does not,
 not the least of which is the length of full manual.

 And since knowing just the basics of org can be immensely beneficial,
 I think it's even more reason to have a basic intro document.

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[Orgmode] Re: Custom agenda view - filter by priority AND scheduled date

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Lundin
Barton abubi...@gmail.com writes:

 In my workflow, I move by priorities and scheduled dates for the tasks.
 My goal with this issue is to have a view that would show me only the
 tasks with certain priority(-ies) that are scheduled for today (or are
 overdue, as in  (org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all t) ).

 My feeble attempt here:

 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
   '((c Custom
  ((agenda  ((org-agenda-ndays 1))) 
   (tags-todo +PRIORITY=\A\)))
 ;; ...other commands here
 ))

 ... displays a usual daily agenda and following it, _all_ the #A tasks
 that I have. Clearly not what has been intended.

Here's one way to do it:

--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((c Custom tags-todo +SCHEDULED=\today\+PRIORITY=\A\)
;; ...other commands here
))
--8---cut here---end---8---

Another approach is to use the daily agenda view and a skip function.
This is a bit faster than the first example:

--8---cut here---start-8---
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((c Custom agenda 
 ((org-agenda-entry-types '(:scheduled))
  (org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notregexp 
\\[#A\\]
;; ...other commands here
))
--8---cut here---end---8---

HTH,
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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Samuel Wales
Great idea.

If the manual were in org, then the tag, :basic:, would suffice.  Just
export only that tag.  But maybe that is more work instead of less?

On 2010-04-28, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
 starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
 when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
 of the manual.

 So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
 everything which could be considered advanced material, but
 keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

 What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
 structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
 I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
 document - or if the existence of this document would lead
 to more confusion than relief.

  http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

 I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
 as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
 updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
 and constantly updated document.

 Comments are welcome.

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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Samuel Wales
Just realized the need for export to info.  So never mind.  And it was
obvious anyway.

On 2010-04-28, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great idea.

 If the manual were in org, then the tag, :basic:, would suffice.  Just
 export only that tag.  But maybe that is more work instead of less?

 On 2010-04-28, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
 starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
 when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
 of the manual.

 So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
 everything which could be considered advanced material, but
 keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

 What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
 structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
 I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
 document - or if the existence of this document would lead
 to more confusion than relief.

  http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

 I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
 as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
 updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
 and constantly updated document.

 Comments are welcome.

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[Orgmode] Questions about creating new nodes (headings)

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
Here are two questions (or maybe one question, and a bug report) from my
note taking while reading the manual.

* Best way to make next menu item?  M-Enter seems to work pretty well.
I'm not to happy with the way org-mode adds a blank line after a block
of text when doing C-S-RET from the entry line, and M-RET from the
block of text.  Do most of you have a blank line after your text
blocks, but before the next entry?  And, I just noticed that it
doesn't ALWAYS add the blank line . . . tres strange.  The blank lines seem
to have some correlation with having other blank lines after higher nodes.
It is VERY strange behavior . . so far, unpredictable to me :)

* C-RET does not seem to do what the info page suggests.
It seems to go into a column selection mode.  Which, by itself, is
very useful, and I'll have to remember that.   I can't seem to find
the C-RET behavior anywhere (jump over the body, and add a new
heading at the same level. C-S-RET Does do what it is supposed to,
so, I guess a good workaround is C-S-RET, then backspace over the TODO.
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[Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
 Jump - seems really hard to use.

C-c C-j.  Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to
get to Org-goto window.  Then, once in the goto window, hitting tab
opens the subtree, but pressing a down arrow again goes back to the
top.  Seems very useless for actually finding anything.  Am I using it
wrong?  Dropping a mark and C-x C-x seems much easier.
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[Orgmode] Copying and Pasting (and Selecting)

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
 Selecting
I've gotten into the habit of selecting by holding down shift, and using the
arrows
to highlight the text I want to select.  This even works fine in Aquamacs.
But, when I'm using
orgmode, and I use shift-Up or Down, then it changes the priority . . Anyone
else find this irritating?
Any work arounds, other than retraining myself?



 Copying and Pasting
This could just be me fighting with Aquamacs (Cmd-C, Cmd-V, Cmd-etc
mac keys). But, the cutting, copying, and pasting do not seem very
intuitive.  I am used to (from old emacs days) using C-w and C-y, but,
i usually did that over regions.  Shift-Arrows to select, etc.  When I
shift arrow over a subtree it mucks with priority.  I know that's by
design, but I find it annoying.  Doing the alternative (cutting a
subtree) does NOT seem intuitive to me.  (Well, the C-w at the end of
the command (C-c C-x C-w) does).  But, I'm not trying to report a bug
-- I'm actually asking a question:  How do you guys typically select a
region and move it, assuming that you can't just move the subtree with
M-S-Arrows
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[Orgmode] Link Abbreviations

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
I found the link abbreviations, and I got it to do this:
[[CASE:CASE-10001]] by using CASE, http://mysite/cases/browse; as the
key  url handler.  But, is there any way to do a regexp, so every
reference that looks like CASE-12345 will automagically be url-ified?

I guess what I want is a slightly more magical behavior.  The same way that
e-mailers notice that http://someurl.company.com/ is a URL, and make it
clickable, I'd like some way to make other regexp's clickable.  Any ideas?
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[Orgmode] Calendars Agenda mode

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
 iCalendar exporting? importing?
Is anyone using this?  I've avoided agenda like stuff, since I have a
calendar that is very full of meetings, appointments, etc.  (In fact,
I have several, some at work, some on google calendars).  While I'd
love to add todo's with dates, using orgmode for my real calendar
seemed a bit much.  Does anyone else using calendars also use orgmode?
If so, do you sync, and in what direction.  (i.e. org-mode -
iCalendar, or move everything from other calendars - org-mode?)
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[Orgmode] Linking Mail ?

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
I'd love to link to mail, but I'm using Thunderbird (actually Postbox), and
there don't seem to be any easy ways to add links to it.  So, I'm actually
considering using some emacs mailer, just for the ability to link to mails
via imap.

1) Is anyone else doing this?  If so, is it worth the trouble?

2) Which mail subsystem would be most compatible and easiest to use?  MH?
Gnus?  And, would it be worth the trouble setting up on a mac?

3) I know there IS a way to link mails using Mail.app, but I prefer the more
powerful filters in thunderbird/postbox.
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[Orgmode] Final Question: Usage

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
I'm still using a monolithic file to inplement my DGTD (Dave's GTD).  I'm
not as anal as TOD (The other Dave, Dave Allen), and I don't run a strict
inbox.

What I do want is:
1)  a place to keep track of live projects, bugs, conversations, etc.
2) A place for notes
3) A place to track TODO's
4) A way to archive off done stuff.

So far, orgmode does the above with ease.  But, I am starting to run into
walls.

Organization:  I'm using one monolithic file now.  And, agenda mode doesn't
know about it till I add it.  Should I be using agenda mode to track todos?
(This goes with my calendar questions a bit in the other mail).  If I do use
agenda mode, how do I add multiple files?

How do I work with multiple files?  Is there an easy way to jump back and
forth from them, if I start making one file for Bugs, one for Escalations,
one for projects, one for notes, etc?

Finally -- and this is my biggest stumbling block:  Status reporting
I'm looking for some way to generate a status report of what I've been
working on.  So, this report should contain anything that has been modified
in the last week.  (I drop date stamps a lot).  Also, the report should
include extra flagged items, even if they did not get work.  (i.e.
Background tasks that are starving should be noted -- but, since not all
tasks / entries are background tasks, I'd make some custom tag, like,
reportme that should be reported, regardless)

I'm trying to generate a status view like that, export to HTML, and e-mail
it to my pointy haired boss . . . . any way to do that?


-Dave
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[Orgmode] `org-refile' doc string

2010-04-28 Thread Štěpán Němec

In the documentation of `org-refile' we read:

  If there is an active region, all entries in that region will be moved.
  However, the region must fulfil the requirement that the first heading
  is the first one sets the top-level of the moved text - at most siblings
  below it are allowed.


I completely fail at parsing the second sentence. Could please someone
who knows what it's trying to say fix it?

Many thanks,

  Štěpán


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[Orgmode] Re: Custom agenda view - filter by priority AND scheduled date

2010-04-28 Thread Barton
Thanks Matt, works like a charm! 

The final version of my org-agenda-custom-commands:

(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((c . Priority views)
(ca #A agenda 
 ((org-agenda-entry-types '(:scheduled))
  (org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notregexp 
\\[#A\\]
(cb #B agenda 
 ((org-agenda-entry-types '(:scheduled))
  (org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notregexp 
\\[#B\\]
(cc #C agenda 
 ((org-agenda-entry-types '(:scheduled))
  (org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notregexp 
\\[#C\\]
;; ...other commands here
))

The org-mode love affair goes on. =)

Barton

On Apr 28, 2010, at 20:19 , Matt Lundin wrote:

 Barton abubi...@gmail.com writes:
 
 In my workflow, I move by priorities and scheduled dates for the tasks.
 My goal with this issue is to have a view that would show me only the
 tasks with certain priority(-ies) that are scheduled for today (or are
 overdue, as in  (org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all t) ).
 
 My feeble attempt here:
 
 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((c Custom
 ((agenda  ((org-agenda-ndays 1))) 
  (tags-todo +PRIORITY=\A\)))
 ;; ...other commands here
))
 
 ... displays a usual daily agenda and following it, _all_ the #A tasks
 that I have. Clearly not what has been intended.
 
 Here's one way to do it:
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((c Custom tags-todo +SCHEDULED=\today\+PRIORITY=\A\)
 ;; ...other commands here
))
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 Another approach is to use the daily agenda view and a skip function.
 This is a bit faster than the first example:
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((c Custom agenda 
((org-agenda-entry-types '(:scheduled))
 (org-agenda-skip-function '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notregexp 
 \\[#A\\]
 ;; ...other commands here
))
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 HTH,
 Matt



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[Orgmode] Specify page number in hyperlink [to pdf]

2010-04-28 Thread Joe Riel

The hyperlink syntax allows specifying a line number, however,
that doesn't do anything (other than force the document to
be opened inside of emacs) with a non-text file (say a pdf).

Is therea an extension to allow specifying a page number
so that a link to a pdf is opened at the specified page?



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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Matti De Craene
 - 2.8 Drawers
 - 3.2 Column width and alignment
 - 3.3 The Spreadsheet (4 rather technical pages)
 - 7.4 Property Inheritance and 7.5 Column View
  (do beginners really need properties at all ??)


I would agree on this list (except maybe drawers).

If there is room for additional sections maybe:
- include the org ref card as an appendix (which in itself offers a
very good overview of org)
- include some pointers into getting emacs for different OSes and
getting started with emacs. If there would be an O´Reilly book on
Org-mode this would be in the first chapter or so. For people who
started using emacs because of org (like me) the current Introduction
might still be too cryptic (?)


--

Matti




On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Dan Davison davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk wrote:
 Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu writes:

 Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Dear all,

 with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
 starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
 when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
 of the manual.

 So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
 everything which could be considered advanced material, but
 keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

 What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
 structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
 I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
 document - or if the existence of this document would lead
 to more confusion than relief.

     http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

 I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
 as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
 updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
 and constantly updated document.

 Comments are welcome.

 Hi Carsten,

 I think this would be a good thing to have.

 It would be good to have active HTML links to the relevant main manual
 sections in PDF and HTML versions. (even if this is not encouraged by
 texinfo format).

 I'm tempted to suggest going even a little further than you have done.
 If you were to make it shorter, I would suggest removing the following
 sections, and to replace removed sections with very short non-technical
 advertisements for features that are covered in the main manual.

 - 2.8 Drawers
 - 3.2 Column width and alignment
 - 3.3 The Spreadsheet (4 rather technical pages)
 - 7.4 Property Inheritance and 7.5 Column View
  (do beginners really need properties at all ??)

 Dan


 I think it's a great idea.  The R project has something called An
 Introduction to R for beginners, separate from the complete manual.
 I think that as a beginner, and wondering how to break into learning a
 new package, that reading the manual has certain negative
 psychological connotations that reading the intro document does not,
 not the least of which is the length of full manual.

 And since knowing just the basics of org can be immensely beneficial,
 I think it's even more reason to have a basic intro document.

 --Erik


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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Thomas S . Dye


On Apr 28, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Samuel Wales wrote:


Just realized the need for export to info.  So never mind.  And it was
obvious anyway.

On 2010-04-28, Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com wrote:

Great idea.

If the manual were in org, then the tag, :basic:, would suffice.   
Just

export only that tag.  But maybe that is more work instead of less?

On 2010-04-28, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear all,

with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
of the manual.

So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
everything which could be considered advanced material, but
keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
document - or if the existence of this document would lead
to more confusion than relief.

http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
and constantly updated document.

Comments are welcome.

- Carsten



Aloha all,

What is the shortest route from org to info?  Is it possible to  
convert the org files that make Worg manual pages to texinfo?


Tom


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Re: [Orgmode] `org-refile' doc string

2010-04-28 Thread Nick Dokos
Štěpán Němec step...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 In the documentation of `org-refile' we read:
 
   If there is an active region, all entries in that region will be moved.
   However, the region must fulfil the requirement that the first heading
   is the first one sets the top-level of the moved text - at most siblings
   below it are allowed.
 
 
 I completely fail at parsing the second sentence. Could please someone
 who knows what it's trying to say fix it?
 

What's the problem? It's crystal clear! :-)

But seriously, I think what's it's trying to say is that you can't just
select an arbitrary region of the org file and refile it: it has to
satisfy some constraints. For example, if you start at a level 2 headline,
the region cannot then include a level 1 headline further down; it can only
include level 2 and lower headlines.

The error message from the function when you try something illegal is
much clearer than the long explanation above:

  The region is not a (sequence of) subtree(s)

Maybe the doc string should say:

  ... However, the region must satisfy some constraints: it has to be
  a subtree (or a sequence of subtrees).

Would that be clear enough?

Nick



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Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j

2010-04-28 Thread Nathan Neff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote:

  Jump - seems really hard to use.


I agree -- I've been on a quest to easily navigate my org-files also.

 C-c C-j.  Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to
 get to Org-goto window.

I use Aquamacs, and the help window sometimes pops out, and sometimes
stays in the main frame.  It's annoying.

Then, once in the goto window, hitting tab
 opens the subtree, but pressing a down arrow again goes back to the
 top.  Seems very useless for actually finding anything.  Am I using it
 wrong?  Dropping a mark and C-x C-x seems much easier.

I would also like to know how to best navigate the *org-goto* buffer.
I can jump back  forth between search results using C-s and C-S s
but it seems very clumsy.

Personally, I've been using M-x occur
I have M-n and M-p bound to next-error and prev-error, to go back  forth
between search results.

HTH,

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[Orgmode] Re: due today notification

2010-04-28 Thread Buck Brody
Matt,

Assume I have 10 things that must be done for a specific project and two of
them must be done today.  I want to be able to know which two are due today,
but I still want to see them in the same list as the other 8 items because
it gives useful context.

Buck

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:

 Hi Buck,

 Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com writes:

  Sorry, I don't think I properly described what I am looking for.  I
  want a visual indicator (like a tag or a face) of tasks due today, but
  I don't want to do a specific search.  The idea would be that, within a
  view of all tasks, I would be able to see at a glance which were due
  today.  Does that make sense?

 I'm not aware of any such functionality. One solution, I suppose, would
 be to use org-map-entries and a custom function to add a tag to all
 entries due today. But adding the tags with org-map-entries would likely
 be just as slow as a search, so there may not be much point.

 (info (org) Using the mapping API)

  On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:
 
  C-c / m DEADLINE=today [RET]
 

 Might I ask why the sparse tree search above or a simple agenda view of
 deadlines is inadequate? The daily agenda provides a nice view of all
 deadlines, making clear which are due today and which are past due. And
 with a custom agenda command you can see only those items that are due
 today:

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
  '((d Due today agenda 
 ((org-agenda-entry-types '(:deadline))
  (org-deadline-warning-days 0)
 --8---cut here---end---8---

 Best,
 Matt

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Re: [Orgmode] [BUG] latex superscript and documentation bugs

2010-04-28 Thread Dan Davison
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:57 AM, Dan Davison wrote:

 Org:
 x^{(0)}

 becomes [note missing parenthesis]

 LaTeX:
 x$^{\mathrm{(0}}$

 This is now fixed.

Thanks!

Dan


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[Orgmode] Org-export-generic and wikis...

2010-04-28 Thread Robert Goldman
I'm trying to get o-e-g to handle export to multiple wikis.

One of the ones that I'm having the most trouble with is tikiwiki
(www.tikiwiki.org).

The problem here is that tikiwiki won't reflow normal text blocks.  This
means that we need to (1) take contiguous blocks of text and ram them
all together (making sure we replace newlines with spaces) and (2) we
need to detect paragraph breaks in body text (blank lines, I believe)
and force them into the exported code as newlines.

I have a partial solution to the first, but it doesn't handle the second
problem well -- it's concatenating all the body text between two
headings together and not honoring paragraph breaks.  The reason it does
this is that the way o-e-g works is to process each line individually,
and there's no special check for blank lines.  For that matter, it
doesn't /seem/ to take into account the possibility that its output will
go somewhere that treats newlines as paragraph boundaries.

The only thing I can think about for the latter (and what I have
tentatively implemented) is to add a new export flag that indicates that
an export format expects to treat newlines as paragraph breaks.  With
this set to t, I have org-export-generic emit a newline when it sees a
blank line.  The expectation is that the value of body-line format does
/not/ emit a newline at the end.

Does this sound OK?  I will send a patch as soon as I can remember how
to make git send one in email...

Two follow-on questions about org-export-generic:
1. Would it be reasonable to move the documentation for
org-export-generic into the contrib/  directory of org-mode?  It seems
... suboptimal to have this package be maintained in the org git repo,
but its documentation in the worg git repo.  At least from my PoV this
raises the bar for keeping the documentation up-to-date and synchronized
to a pretty high level.
2. Is the existing handle each line separately algorithm going to
permit us to handle faces correctly?  Seems like we'll need a lot of
hair to handle, e.g., a phrase in italics that straddles a line-break,
won't we?

Best,
r


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[Orgmode] Re: due today notification

2010-04-28 Thread Matthew Lundin
Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com writes:

  Might I ask why the sparse tree search above or a simple agenda
  view of deadlines is inadequate? The daily agenda provides a nice
  view of all deadlines, making clear which are due today and which
  are past due. And with a custom agenda command you can see only
  those items that are due today:

 Assume I have 10 things that must be done for a specific project and
 two of them must be done today.  I want to be able to know which two
 are due today, but I still want to see them in the same list as the
 other 8 items because it gives useful context.  


But isn't this precisely what a sparse tree does? I.e., it highlights
the relevant deadlines but preserves the context...

I dug around in the source code and found a command (normally invoked by
org-sparse-tree) that shows all deadlines in a file within n days
(determined by a prefix argument).

If you type...

C-u 1 M-x org-check-deadlines

...org-mode will highlight all the deadlines in the buffer due today or
past due. You could bind this to a key.

Best,
Matt


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Re: [Orgmode] Questions about creating new nodes (headings)

2010-04-28 Thread Nathan Neff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:41 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote:
 Here are two questions (or maybe one question, and a bug report) from my
 note taking while reading the manual.

 * Best way to make next menu item?  M-Enter seems to work pretty well.
 I'm not to happy with the way org-mode adds a blank line after a block
 of text when doing C-S-RET from the entry line, and M-RET from the
 block of text.  Do most of you have a blank line after your text
 blocks, but before the next entry?

I think you want to customize the org-blank-before-new-entry variable.

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#blank-line-after-headlines-and-list-items

snip

 * C-RET does not seem to do what the info page suggests.
 It seems to go into a column selection mode.  Which, by itself, is
 very useful, and I'll have to remember that.   I can't seem to find
 the C-RET behavior anywhere (jump over the body, and add a new
 heading at the same level. C-S-RET Does do what it is supposed to,
 so, I guess a good workaround is C-S-RET, then backspace over the TODO.

I think this is an Aquamacs thing -- Aquamacs overrides the C-Ret binding with
some cua-set-rectangle-mark function that I know nothing about.

What I have found is that C-Ret runs org-insert-heading-respect-content,
(except on Aquamacs).

Anyway, M-Ret will do the *same thing* (to the best of my knowledge)
/if/ you have this setting:

(setq org-insert-heading-respect-content t)

And I think that most people that use org-mode do indeed set
org-insert-heading-respect-content.

So, I don't bother w/C-Ret, and just use M-Ret all the time, after
setting the above variable to 't
HTH,

--Nate


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[Orgmode] Re: Questions about creating new nodes (headings)

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Lundin
David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

 Here are two questions (or maybe one question, and a bug report) from
 my note taking while reading the manual.

 * Best way to make next menu item?  M-Enter seems to work pretty
 well.
 I'm not to happy with the way org-mode adds a blank line after a block
 of text when doing C-S-RET from the entry line, and M-RET from the
 block of text.  Do most of you have a blank line after your text
 blocks, but before the next entry?  And, I just noticed that it
 doesn't ALWAYS add the blank line . . . tres strange.  The blank lines
 seem
 to have some correlation with having other blank lines after higher
 nodes.
 It is VERY strange behavior . . so far, unpredictable to me :)

See the docstring for org-blank-before-new-entry:
  - i.e.,  C-h v org-blank-before-new-entry

If you never want a blank line, the simplest setting is:
(setq org-blank-before-new-entry nil)

 * C-RET does not seem to do what the info page suggests.
 It seems to go into a column selection mode.  Which, by itself, is
 very useful, and I'll have to remember that.   I can't seem to find
 the C-RET behavior anywhere (jump over the body, and add a new
 heading at the same level. C-S-RET Does do what it is supposed to,
 so, I guess a good workaround is C-S-RET, then backspace over the
 TODO.

I cannot reproduce this behavior. C-RET correctly creates a new headline
beneath the current entry.

Best,
Matt


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[Orgmode] Re: Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Lundin
David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

  Jump - seems really hard to use.

 C-c C-j.  Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to
 get to Org-goto window.  Then, once in the goto window, hitting tab
 opens the subtree, but pressing a down arrow again goes back to the
 top.  Seems very useless for actually finding anything.  Am I using it
 wrong?  Dropping a mark and C-x C-x seems much easier.

There is another (and IMO more convenient) interface for org-goto (C-c
C-j). To test it, try the following setting:

(setq org-goto-interface 'outline-path-completion) 

Otherwise, you can try fiddling with the other org-goto variables. Type
C-h v org-goto [TAB] for a full list.

- Matt



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Re: [Orgmode] Final Question: Usage

2010-04-28 Thread Nathan Neff
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:57 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote:

 I'm still using a monolithic file to inplement my DGTD (Dave's GTD).  I'm
 not as anal as TOD (The other Dave, Dave Allen), and I don't run a strict
 inbox.

 What I do want is:
 1)  a place to keep track of live projects, bugs, conversations, etc.
 2) A place for notes
 3) A place to track TODO's
 4) A way to archive off done stuff.

 So far, orgmode does the above with ease.  But, I am starting to run into
 walls.

 Organization:  I'm using one monolithic file now.  And, agenda mode doesn't
 know about it till I add it.  Should I be using agenda mode to track todos?
 (This goes with my calendar questions a bit in the other mail).  If I do use
 agenda mode, how do I add multiple files?

 How do I work with multiple files?  Is there an easy way to jump back and
 forth from them, if I start making one file for Bugs, one for Escalations,
 one for projects, one for notes, etc?

 Finally -- and this is my biggest stumbling block:  Status reporting
 I'm looking for some way to generate a status report of what I've been
 working on.  So, this report should contain anything that has been modified
 in the last week.  (I drop date stamps a lot).  Also, the report should
 include extra flagged items, even if they did not get work.  (i.e.
 Background tasks that are starving should be noted -- but, since not all
 tasks / entries are background tasks, I'd make some custom tag, like,
 reportme that should be reported, regardless)

 I'm trying to generate a status view like that, export to HTML, and e-mail
 it to my pointy haired boss . . . . any way to do that?



David, this is a good opportunity to point you towards some of the
things that have
helped me the most w/org mode.

First, before I posted a question to the list, I would search the mailing
list archive on gmane.  There's a Search box right on the main org-mode page
http://orgmode.org/index.html#sec-5_2

Second, Bernt's org-mode website is awesome -- he goes through every detail
about how he uses org-mode, /and/ he shows you the settings and keyboard
shortcuts that he uses:

http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html

Third, Worg has some awesome tutorials by misc. people:
http://orgmode.org/worg/

And finally, I would recommend that you split up e-mails like this into specific
questions.  For example, this e-mail contained at least 2 big
questions -- how to
store your org files, and how to create pointy-haired status reports
:-)  Both of those
subjects are very broad, so in the future I suggest breaking your
e-mail into at least
two or more e-mails.

HTH,

--Nate


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[Orgmode] Re: Copying and Pasting (and Selecting)

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Lundin
David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

  Copying and Pasting
 This could just be me fighting with Aquamacs (Cmd-C, Cmd-V, Cmd-etc
 mac keys). But, the cutting, copying, and pasting do not seem very
 intuitive.  I am used to (from old emacs days) using C-w and C-y, but,
 i usually did that over regions.  Shift-Arrows to select, etc.  When I
 shift arrow over a subtree it mucks with priority.  I know that's by
 design, but I find it annoying.  Doing the alternative (cutting a
 subtree) does NOT seem intuitive to me.  (Well, the C-w at the end of
 the command (C-c C-x C-w) does).  But, I'm not trying to report a bug
 -- I'm actually asking a question:  How do you guys typically select a
 region and move it, assuming that you can't just move the subtree with
 M-S-Arrows

1. I use C-[SPACE] together with transient-mark-mode to select a region
   and then type C-w to kill it and C-y to yank it.

2. I often kill folded subtrees with a simple C-k (org-kill-line).

3. I make frequent use of org-refile.

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[Orgmode] Re: Linking Mail ?

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Lundin
David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

 2) Which mail subsystem would be most compatible and easiest to use? 
 MH?  Gnus?  And, would it be worth the trouble setting up on a mac?

You might want to check out this recent ML discussion:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/23481/focus=23588

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Re: [Orgmode] Questions about creating new nodes (headings)

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote:



 I think you want to customize the org-blank-before-new-entry variable.


 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#blank-line-after-headlines-and-list-items


Nice!  That almost fixed it.  But, I think the documentation is a bit
wrong.  Try this:

* Item One
* Item Two
* Item Three

* Item Four
* Item Five

Try to hit M-RET at the end of Item Three.  Even though there are no
blanks before Three, it will still add the blank.  It looks forward as well
as backward.
M-RET after Item Four will also add the blank.  It's not a big deal, just
a slight documentation issue.  Now that I know how it behaves, I can make it
do what I want easily :)




 I think this is an Aquamacs thing -- Aquamacs overrides the C-Ret binding
 with
 some cua-set-rectangle-mark function that I know nothing about.

 What I have found is that C-Ret runs org-insert-heading-respect-content,
 (except on Aquamacs).

 Anyway, M-Ret will do the *same thing* (to the best of my knowledge)
 /if/ you have this setting:

 (setq org-insert-heading-respect-content t)

 And I think that most people that use org-mode do indeed set
 org-insert-heading-respect-content.

 So, I don't bother w/C-Ret, and just use M-Ret all the time, after
 setting the above variable to 't
 HTH,


Perfect!  Fixed and fixed!

We can consider this thread closed!

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[Orgmode] Re: due today notification

2010-04-28 Thread Buck Brody
Matt,

Thanks for your suggestions.

The problem with the sparse tree is that a sparse tree will only show the
headlines above the item with a deadline, it will not show the sibling
headlines.  For example, if I used a sparse tree on:

* Fruit
** Apple
*** Macintosh
*** Crab
DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed
*** Golden delicious
** Vegetable
*** lettuce
*** squash
*** cucumber


It would look like

* Fruit
*** Crab
DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed



Buck




On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Matthew Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:

 Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com writes:

   Might I ask why the sparse tree search above or a simple agenda
   view of deadlines is inadequate? The daily agenda provides a nice
   view of all deadlines, making clear which are due today and which
   are past due. And with a custom agenda command you can see only
   those items that are due today:
 
  Assume I have 10 things that must be done for a specific project and
  two of them must be done today.  I want to be able to know which two
  are due today, but I still want to see them in the same list as the
  other 8 items because it gives useful context.
 

 But isn't this precisely what a sparse tree does? I.e., it highlights
 the relevant deadlines but preserves the context...

 I dug around in the source code and found a command (normally invoked by
 org-sparse-tree) that shows all deadlines in a file within n days
 (determined by a prefix argument).

 If you type...

 C-u 1 M-x org-check-deadlines

 ...org-mode will highlight all the deadlines in the buffer due today or
 past due. You could bind this to a key.

 Best,
 Matt

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[Orgmode] Re: Copying and Pasting (and Selecting)

2010-04-28 Thread David Frascone
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:

 David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

   Copying and Pasting
  This could just be me fighting with Aquamacs (Cmd-C, Cmd-V, Cmd-etc
  mac keys). But, the cutting, copying, and pasting do not seem very
  intuitive.  I am used to (from old emacs days) using C-w and C-y, but,
  i usually did that over regions.  Shift-Arrows to select, etc.  When I
  shift arrow over a subtree it mucks with priority.  I know that's by
  design, but I find it annoying.  Doing the alternative (cutting a
  subtree) does NOT seem intuitive to me.  (Well, the C-w at the end of
  the command (C-c C-x C-w) does).  But, I'm not trying to report a bug
  -- I'm actually asking a question:  How do you guys typically select a
  region and move it, assuming that you can't just move the subtree with
  M-S-Arrows

 1. I use C-[SPACE] together with transient-mark-mode to select a region
   and then type C-w to kill it and C-y to yank it.

 2. I often kill folded subtrees with a simple C-k (org-kill-line).

 3. I make frequent use of org-refile.



I didn't like org-refile.  It didn't seem to want to refile under anything
but a top level (or maybe I was refiling a level 2) . . . I'll try to play
with it some more, but it didn't make my cheat sheet of cool tricks :)

 I need to get used to using the transient mark.  I use C-@ instead of
C-Space, though . . . works better across a ssh session :)
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[Orgmode] Re: due today notification

2010-04-28 Thread Matthew Lundin
Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com writes:

 The problem with the sparse tree is that a sparse tree will only show
 the headlines above the item with a deadline, it will not show the
 sibling headlines.  For example, if I used a sparse tree on:

That depends on the value of org-show-siblings. 

To ensure that siblings are visible, you can use a simple setting such
as:

(setq org-show-siblings t)

Type C-h v org-show-hierarchy-above [RET] for more fine-grained
customization options.

With org-show-siblings set to t, I see the following:

--8---cut here---start-8---
* Fruit
** Apple
*** Macintosh
*** Crab
DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed
*** Golden delicious
** Vegetable
--8---cut here---end---8---

Best,
Matt

 * Fruit
 ** Apple
 *** Macintosh
 *** Crab
     DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed
 *** Golden delicious
 ** Vegetable
 *** lettuce
 *** squash
 *** cucumber

 It would look like

 * Fruit
 *** Crab
     DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed



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[Orgmode] Re: `org-refile' doc string

2010-04-28 Thread Štěpán Němec
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 Štěpán Němec step...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 In the documentation of `org-refile' we read:
 
   If there is an active region, all entries in that region will be moved.
   However, the region must fulfil the requirement that the first heading
   is the first one sets the top-level of the moved text - at most siblings
   below it are allowed.
 
 
 I completely fail at parsing the second sentence. Could please someone
 who knows what it's trying to say fix it?
 

 What's the problem? It's crystal clear! :-)

 But seriously, I think what's it's trying to say is that you can't just
 select an arbitrary region of the org file and refile it: it has to
 satisfy some constraints. For example, if you start at a level 2 headline,
 the region cannot then include a level 1 headline further down; it can only
 include level 2 and lower headlines.

 The error message from the function when you try something illegal is
 much clearer than the long explanation above:

   The region is not a (sequence of) subtree(s)

 Maybe the doc string should say:

   ... However, the region must satisfy some constraints: it has to be
   a subtree (or a sequence of subtrees).

 Would that be clear enough?

Clear enough for me to understand at least, thanks!
An alternative and more verbose wording could be something like:

  However, the region must fulfil the requirement that all the included
  headings are on the same level as the first one or below (i.e.
  a subtree or sequence of subtrees).

Best,

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: due today notification

2010-04-28 Thread Nick Dokos
Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com wrote:


 Assume I have 10 things that must be done for a specific project and two of
 them must be done today.  I want to be able to know which two are due today,
 but I still want to see them in the same list as the other 8 items because
 it gives useful context.
 

Coming late to the party and I'm almost sure that the following will not
satisfy you, but maybe it'll help the rest of us understand what you are
really after (afaict, that's still not clear - apologies if I'm
generalizing unwarrantedly).

Say you have project foo with project file foo.org:

,
| #+STARTUP: showall
| *** Long list of project items
|  a
|  b
|  c
|  DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed
|  d
|  e
|  f
|
|  g
| 
|  h
|  DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed
|  i
|  j
`

Items c and h are due today. I assume you have added the file to your
agenda list.  Then you look at your agenda and you get:

,
| Week-agenda (W17-W18):
| Wednesday  28 April 2010
|   ...
|   foo:Deadline:   c
|   foo:Deadline:   h
|   ...
| Thursday   29 April 2010
|   ...
`

Click on the c line and press RET: you are in foo.org, on item c,
and there's your context. Ditto for the h line in the agenda.

If this does not satisfy you, what would you like to have seen instead?

HTH in some small way,
Nick



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[Orgmode] Re: `org-refile' doc string

2010-04-28 Thread Nick Dokos
Štěpán Němec step...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
 
  ...
  Maybe the doc string should say:
 
... However, the region must satisfy some constraints: it has to be
a subtree (or a sequence of subtrees).
 
  Would that be clear enough?
 
 Clear enough for me to understand at least, thanks!
 An alternative and more verbose wording could be something like:
 
   However, the region must fulfil the requirement that all the included
   headings are on the same level as the first one or below (i.e.
   a subtree or sequence of subtrees).
 
 Best,
 
   Štěpán
 

OK - here's a patch - mostly Štěpán's wording.

Thanks,
Nick

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 9920504..748c140 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -9556,9 +9556,9 @@ Depending on `org-reverse-note-order', the new subitem 
will either be the
 first or the last subitem.
 
 If there is an active region, all entries in that region will be moved.
-However, the region must fulfil the requirement that the first heading
-is the first one sets the top-level of the moved text - at most siblings
-below it are allowed.
+However, the region must fulfill the requirement that all the included
+headings are on the same level as the first one or below (i.e. it must
+be a subtree or a sequence of subtrees.)
 
 With prefix arg GOTO, the command will only visit the target location,
 not actually move anything.



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[Orgmode] Re: Questions about creating new nodes (headings)

2010-04-28 Thread Bernt Hansen
Hi David,

Comments are inline below.

David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

 Here are two questions (or maybe one question, and a bug report) from
 my note taking while reading the manual.

 * Best way to make next menu item?  M-Enter seems to work pretty well.
 I'm not to happy with the way org-mode adds a blank line after a block
 of text when doing C-S-RET from the entry line, and M-RET from the
 block of text.  Do most of you have a blank line after your text
 blocks, but before the next entry?  And, I just noticed that it
 doesn't ALWAYS add the blank line . . . tres strange.  The blank lines seem
 to have some correlation with having other blank lines after higher nodes.
 It is VERY strange behavior . . so far, unpredictable to me :)

Blank lines?  What blank lines?  Customize org-blank-before-new-entry.
I have the following setting:

,
| org-blank-before-new-entry is a variable defined in `org.el'.
| Its value is 
| ((heading)
|  (plain-list-item))
| 
`


If you are in the body whatever blank lines you created will stay

,[ before M-RET ]
| * TODO foo
|   point here
`

hitting M-RET gives me this

,
| * TODO foo
|   
| * 
`

Now you had a blank line after * TODO foo so it's the body of that item
and M-RET should preserve that.

I have org-insert-heading-respect-content set to t

I normally create headlines from the task itself so I don't press RET
on * TODO foo if I only want to make a new headline following it.  Just
* TODO foo M-RET to get

,
| * TODO foo
| * 
`

I get no extra blank lines with point on the heading and using C-S-RET.


 * C-RET does not seem to do what the info page suggests.
 It seems to go into a column selection mode.  Which, by itself, is
 very useful, and I'll have to remember that.   I can't seem to find
 the C-RET behavior anywhere (jump over the body, and add a new
 heading at the same level. C-S-RET Does do what it is supposed to,
 so, I guess a good workaround is C-S-RET, then backspace over the TODO.

,
| ** TODO foo
|
| ** TODO foo
|   foo bar bazpoint here
|   a b c
| ** More stuff 
| * rest of stuff 
`

with point at point here and C-RET I get this:

,
| ** TODO foo
|
| ** TODO foo
|   foo bar baz
|   a b c
| ** point here
| ** More stuff 
| * rest of stuff 
`

What version are you running and on what platform?

Regards,
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[Orgmode] Re: Copying and Pasting (and Selecting)

2010-04-28 Thread Bernt Hansen
Hi David,

I think that's your version of Emacs getting in the way.  C-w and C-y
are cut and paste for me on linux (and windows using the Emacs W32 port
with those shift/C-c/C-v keys disabled so it doesn't emulate windows
application mode.

My move a region command sequence:
  - C-SPC to set point
  - move to beg/end of region
  - C-w to cut
  - move to target location
  - C-y to paste.

HTH,
Bernt


David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

  Selecting
 I've gotten into the habit of selecting by holding down shift, and using the 
 arrows
 to highlight the text I want to select.  This even works fine in Aquamacs.  
 But, when I'm using
 orgmode, and I use shift-Up or Down, then it changes the priority . . Anyone 
 else find this irritating?
 Any work arounds, other than retraining myself?

  Copying and Pasting
 This could just be me fighting with Aquamacs (Cmd-C, Cmd-V, Cmd-etc
 mac keys). But, the cutting, copying, and pasting do not seem very
 intuitive.  I am used to (from old emacs days) using C-w and C-y, but,
 i usually did that over regions.  Shift-Arrows to select, etc.  When I
 shift arrow over a subtree it mucks with priority.  I know that's by
 design, but I find it annoying.  Doing the alternative (cutting a
 subtree) does NOT seem intuitive to me.  (Well, the C-w at the end of
 the command (C-c C-x C-w) does).  But, I'm not trying to report a bug
 -- I'm actually asking a question:  How do you guys typically select a
 region and move it, assuming that you can't just move the subtree with
 M-S-Arrows

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: due today notification

2010-04-28 Thread Buck Brody
Nick,

Thanks for the suggestion.

What I want is a way to know, just by looking at a headline, if it is due
today.  Maybe this isn't something most people care about because they keep
their files unfolded most of the time, so they can see the DEADLINE
property.  All my tasks are kept on the third level and I don't usually keep
the file unfolded past that because I wouldn't be able to see enough
headlines at once.

Maybe it would be best if I explain my current workflow.  I use agenda to
see what is due today.  I then manually assign those items the A priority.
 For the rest of the day, whether I am in a different agenda view, or just
within my main file, I can quickly see what items are due today because they
have the A priority within the headline.  Using a tag would work just as
well.  I am looking for a way to cut out this manual process.

I appreciate everyone's help, but I don't want to use up a lot of peoples
time because this is not that big a problem for me.

Thanks,

Buck

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote:

 Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com wrote:


  Assume I have 10 things that must be done for a specific project and two
 of
  them must be done today.  I want to be able to know which two are due
 today,
  but I still want to see them in the same list as the other 8 items
 because
  it gives useful context.
 

 Coming late to the party and I'm almost sure that the following will not
 satisfy you, but maybe it'll help the rest of us understand what you are
 really after (afaict, that's still not clear - apologies if I'm
 generalizing unwarrantedly).

 Say you have project foo with project file foo.org:

 ,
 | #+STARTUP: showall
 | *** Long list of project items
 |  a
 |  b
 |  c
 |  DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed
 |  d
 |  e
 |  f
 |
 |  g
 |
 |  h
 |  DEADLINE: 2010-04-28 Wed
 |  i
 |  j
 `

 Items c and h are due today. I assume you have added the file to your
 agenda list.  Then you look at your agenda and you get:

 ,
 | Week-agenda (W17-W18):
 | Wednesday  28 April 2010
 |   ...
 |   foo:Deadline:   c
 |   foo:Deadline:   h
 |   ...
 | Thursday   29 April 2010
 |   ...
 `

 Click on the c line and press RET: you are in foo.org, on item c,
 and there's your context. Ditto for the h line in the agenda.

 If this does not satisfy you, what would you like to have seen instead?

 HTH in some small way,
 Nick


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[Orgmode] Re: Final Question: Usage

2010-04-28 Thread Bernt Hansen
David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:

 I'm still using a monolithic file to inplement my DGTD (Dave's GTD). 
 I'm not as anal as TOD (The other Dave, Dave Allen), and I don't run a
 strict inbox.

 What I do want is:
 1)  a place to keep track of live projects, bugs, conversations, etc.
 2) A place for notes
 3) A place to track TODO's
 4) A way to archive off done stuff.

 So far, orgmode does the above with ease.  But, I am starting to run
 into walls.

 Organization:  I'm using one monolithic file now.  And, agenda mode
 doesn't know about it till I add it.  Should I be using agenda mode to
 track todos?  (This goes with my calendar questions a bit in the other
 mail).  If I do use agenda mode, how do I add multiple files?

 How do I work with multiple files?  Is there an easy way to jump back
 and forth from them, if I start making one file for Bugs, one for
 Escalations, one for projects, one for notes, etc?

 Finally -- and this is my biggest stumbling block:  Status reporting
 I'm looking for some way to generate a status report of what I've been
 working on.  So, this report should contain anything that has been
 modified in the last week.  (I drop date stamps a lot).  Also, the
 report should include extra flagged items, even if they did not get
 work.  (i.e. Background tasks that are starving should be noted --
 but, since not all tasks / entries are background tasks, I'd make some
 custom tag, like, reportme that should be reported, regardless)

 I'm trying to generate a status view like that, export to HTML, and
 e-mail it to my pointy haired boss . . . . any way to do that?


The agenda is your friend.  You can have multiple files in the agenda
all contributing to views of your todo lists in agenda views.

C-c [ adds the current file to org-agenda-files so just visit multiple
files you want in your agenda and C-c [ once in each.

Now C-c a t will show all todos in all your files.  C-c a a shows a
calendar view (day/week).

I navigate to things only from the agenda.

You'll want log view in the agenda or something similar for status
reporting.  You can export agenda views but I've never done it :)

HTH,
Bernt



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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Sebastian Rose
 If the manual were in org, then the tag, :basic:, would suffice.  Just
 export only that tag.  But maybe that is more work instead of less?

 On 2010-04-28, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,

 with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
 starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
 when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
 of the manual.

 So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
 everything which could be considered advanced material, but
 keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.


Great idea!

I hate to read more than neccessary :)

but...

 Just realized the need for export to info.  So never mind.  And it was
 obvius anyway.

I'd prefer to keep the full manual as texinfo file. It's so easy to
search in info files for what ever you're looking for.


  Sebastian




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[Orgmode] org-export-generic patch

2010-04-28 Thread Robert P. Goldman

This patch adds handling of blockquotes and flowed output formats to
org-export-generic per earlier email.


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[Orgmode] [PATCH 4/4] Add handling of blockquote and output formats that must be flowed.

2010-04-28 Thread Robert P. Goldman
From: Robert P. Goldman rpgold...@real-time.com

Added a handler for blockquotes.

Also added :body-newline-paragraph to the org-set-generic-type.  This is
intended to help handling output formats (like tikiwiki) where newlines are
treated as paragraph separators, instead of being used to fill (i.e., the
destination is expected to do the word-wrapping).  If this is set to T then
org-export-generic will emit a newline character when it sees a blank
line.  This should be used in concert with a value like %s  for
:body-line-format and nil for :body-line-wrap.
---
 contrib/lisp/org-export-generic.el |   19 +--
 1 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-export-generic.el 
b/contrib/lisp/org-export-generic.el
index 11c37da..1b099dd 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/org-export-generic.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/org-export-generic.el
@@ -88,8 +88,9 @@
 ;;   * properties
 ;;   * drawers
 ;;   * oh my
-;;   * optmization (many plist extracts should be in (let) vars
+;;   * optmization (many plist extracts should be in let vars)
 ;;   * define defcustom spec for the specifier list
+;;   * fonts:  at least monospace is not handled at all here.
 ;;
 ;
 ;;
@@ -638,10 +639,14 @@ underlined headlines.  The default is 3.
  (or (plist-get export-plist :body-list-checkbox-done-end) ))
 (listcheckhalfend
  (or (plist-get export-plist :body-list-checkbox-half-end) ))
+ (bodynewline-paragraph   (plist-get export-plist 
:body-newline-paragraph))
 (bodytextpre   (plist-get export-plist :body-text-prefix))
 (bodytextsuf   (plist-get export-plist :body-text-suffix))
 (bodylinewrap  (plist-get export-plist :body-line-wrap))
 (bodylineform  (or (plist-get export-plist :body-line-format) %s))
+ (blockquotestart (or (plist-get export-plist :blockquote-start) 
\n\n\t))
+ (blockquoteend (or (plist-get export-plist :blockquote-end) \n\n))
+ 
 
 thetoc toctags have-headings first-heading-pos
 table-open table-buffer link-buffer link desc desc0 rpl wrap)
@@ -868,7 +873,7 @@ underlined headlines.  The default is 3.
 
((string-match ^\\([ \t]*\\)\\(:\\( \\|$\\)\\) line)
;;
-   ;; pre-formated text
+   ;; pre-formatted text
;;
(setq line (replace-match \\1 nil nil line))
 
@@ -933,6 +938,15 @@ underlined headlines.  The default is 3.
 )
 
(insert (format numlistformat line)))
+
+   ((equal line ORG-BLOCKQUOTE-START)
+(setq line blockquotestart))
+   ((equal line ORG-BLOCKQUOTE-END)
+(setq line blockquoteend))
+   ((string-match ^\\s-*$ line)
+;; blank line
+(if bodynewline-paragraph
+(insert \n)))
(t
;;
;; body
@@ -1009,6 +1023,7 @@ underlined headlines.  The default is 3.
(goto-char beg)))
 (goto-char (point-min
 
+
 (defun org-export-generic-format (export-plist prop optional len n reverse)
   converts a property specification to a string given types of properties
 
-- 
1.6.5.3



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[Orgmode] [PATCH] Clean up docstring for org-refile

2010-04-28 Thread Bernt Hansen
---
This commit is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git for-carsten

 lisp/org.el |5 ++---
 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 0f69296..1eac6dc 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -9584,9 +9584,8 @@ Depending on `org-reverse-note-order', the new subitem 
will either be the
 first or the last subitem.
 
 If there is an active region, all entries in that region will be moved.
-However, the region must fulfil the requirement that the first heading
-is the first one sets the top-level of the moved text - at most siblings
-below it are allowed.
+However, the region must fulfill the requirement that the first heading
+is the top-level of the moved text - at most siblings below it are allowed.
 
 With prefix arg GOTO, the command will only visit the target location,
 not actually move anything.
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Re: [Orgmode] A shorter manual

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 28, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Matti De Craene wrote:


- 2.8 Drawers
- 3.2 Column width and alignment
- 3.3 The Spreadsheet (4 rather technical pages)
- 7.4 Property Inheritance and 7.5 Column View
(do beginners really need properties at all ??)



I would agree on this list (except maybe drawers).

If there is room for additional sections maybe:
- include the org ref card as an appendix (which in itself offers a
very good overview of org)
- include some pointers into getting emacs for different OSes and
getting started with emacs. If there would be an O´Reilly book on
Org-mode this would be in the first chapter or so. For people who
started using emacs because of org (like me) the current Introduction
might still be too cryptic (?)


Hi Dan, Matti,

I think I agree, just cannot easliy let go of the spreadsheet
as a core feature - you caught me there :-), and you are right, also

I would be very glad to hand over the control over this document
to either of you or to another volunteer.  Maybe then we could
make something really nice out of this experiment - I will not
be able to spend much more time on it

- Carsten




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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Dan Davison  
davi...@stats.ox.ac.uk wrote:

Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu writes:


Carsten Dominik wrote:

Dear all,

with the Org-mode manual moving toward 200 pages,  I am
starting to worry that people with stop in their tracks
when considering Org-mode, just because of the sheer size
of the manual.

So I did a little experiment.  I took the manual and stripped
everything which could be considered advanced material, but
keeping all features and all basic commands and customizations.

What remains are about 50 pages.  A document with the same
structure (even the same chapter numbers) as the manual.
I am wondering if it would be useful to have this as a beginners
document - or if the existence of this document would lead
to more confusion than relief.

http://orgmode.org/orgguide.pdf

I don't see this a an alternative for the manual - just
as an additional, rather static document, with little need for
updates.  The manual would continue to be the comprehensive
and constantly updated document.

Comments are welcome.


Hi Carsten,

I think this would be a good thing to have.

It would be good to have active HTML links to the relevant main  
manual

sections in PDF and HTML versions. (even if this is not encouraged by
texinfo format).

I'm tempted to suggest going even a little further than you have  
done.
If you were to make it shorter, I would suggest removing the  
following
sections, and to replace removed sections with very short non- 
technical

advertisements for features that are covered in the main manual.

- 2.8 Drawers
- 3.2 Column width and alignment
- 3.3 The Spreadsheet (4 rather technical pages)
- 7.4 Property Inheritance and 7.5 Column View
 (do beginners really need properties at all ??)

Dan



I think it's a great idea.  The R project has something called An
Introduction to R for beginners, separate from the complete manual.
I think that as a beginner, and wondering how to break into  
learning a

new package, that reading the manual has certain negative
psychological connotations that reading the intro document does  
not,

not the least of which is the length of full manual.

And since knowing just the basics of org can be immensely  
beneficial,

I think it's even more reason to have a basic intro document.

--Erik


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: due today notification

2010-04-28 Thread Nick Dokos
Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com wrote:

 ...
 Maybe it would be best if I explain my current workflow.  I use agenda to see 
 what is due today.  I
 then manually assign those items the A priority.  For the rest of the day, 
 whether I am in a
 different agenda view, or just within my main file, I can quickly see what 
 items are due today
 because they have the A priority within the headline.  Using a tag would work 
 just as well.  I am
 looking for a way to cut out this manual process.
 

OK. Maybe the following will help. Define the following function
(perhaps in your .emacs):

(defun bb-mark-todays-deadlines-as-high-priority ()
Find all entries with a DEADLINE of today and give them high priority.
  (interactive)
  (org-map-entries '(org-priority ?A) +DEADLINE=\today\ 'file 'archive 
'trees))

and invoke it in the project buffer with 

M-x bb-mark-todays-deadlines-as-high-priority RET

(or bind it to some key for convenience). You might have to fiddle with
it a bit - the mapping API is described in section A.10 of the Org
manual.

HTH,
Nick


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Linking Mail ?

2010-04-28 Thread Anthony Lander


On 10-Apr-28, at 4:14 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:


David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:


2) Which mail subsystem would be most compatible and easiest to use?
MH?  Gnus?  And, would it be worth the trouble setting up on a mac?


You might want to check out this recent ML discussion:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/23481/focus=23588

- Matt


David,

There is also org-mac-message on the mac (to work with Mail.app), and  
a wrapper that I wrote which you might also find helpful at http://github.com/alander/org-mac-link-grabber


Regards,

  -Anthony


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Re: [Orgmode] Does anyone use Jump C-c C-j

2010-04-28 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:09:22 -0500, Nathan Neff nathan.n...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:42 PM, David Frascone d...@frascone.com wrote:
 
   Jump - seems really hard to use.
 
 
 I agree -- I've been on a quest to easily navigate my org-files also.
 
  C-c C-j.  Opens help window with cursor in it, so I have to C-x o to
  get to Org-goto window.
 
 I use Aquamacs, and the help window sometimes pops out, and sometimes
 stays in the main frame.  It's annoying.

I'm not sure what either of you is saying here.  C-c C-j works very
simply: the little help window pops up but the key sequences (arrows
and TAB basically) allow me to move in the original buffer until I hit
RET at which point the popup disappears and I'm in the original buffer
at the new location.

Am I missing something?


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Linking Mail ?

2010-04-28 Thread Simon Brown
At Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:14:59 -0400,
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote:
 David Frascone d...@frascone.com writes:
  2) Which mail subsystem would be most compatible and easiest to use? 
  MH?  Gnus?  And, would it be worth the trouble setting up on a mac?
 
 You might want to check out this recent ML discussion:
 
 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/23481/focus=23588
I started that thread, the answer I suspect is simply no. Your options
are MH-E, Gnus, Wanderlust, VM and MEW. I tried Gnus, Wanderlust and
VM trying the hardest with Gnus and Wanderlust. 

Gnus has a lot going for it as it is included in emacs, very active
development and I had it reading my IMAP mail very quickly. It is
however a news reader and that didn't suit me at all. 

Installing Wanderlust I understand is tricky, you need to get it and
it's dependancies from the right branch from CVS as the last release
occured some time ago. I use the ubuntu wl-beta package so didn't have
to do this.

Configuration is far from trvial, my config file has 300 lines. It
took me a week of tweaking to get to a state where I was happier than
I was with my previous mail client. There are still some rough edges.

I do like and use the org integration, but have found the bigger
advantage is that I've now one less reason to leave emacs. How emacs
centric is your current computer use?

Postbox http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=94402 looks
like a very capable application. By all means try all 5 out, I suspect
though that they're not the mail clients you're looking for.

Simon


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Re: [Orgmode] Changed org-icalendar.el

2010-04-28 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Dear Carsten,

Thank you very much.

Best regards,
Takaaki ISHIKAWA

On 2010/04/29, at 0:01, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 Applied, thanks.
 
 - Carsten
 
 On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Takaaki ISHIKAWA wrote:
 
 Dear Org-mode developers,
 
 Hi. I'm just a user of the org-mode.
 First of all, many thanks to you since
 you have provided the best tool for Emacs.
 
 Lately, I added a description attribute to the iCal export function
 in lisp/org-icalendar.el.
 The new function allows to display a description of
 the exported iCal file.
 
 I checked it's validation on the following environment.
 
 - MacOSX Snow Leopard 10.6.3
 - GNU Emacs 22.3.1 (386-apple-darwin9.8.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
 - OrgMode the latest version (2010-04-28)
 - iCal.app
 
 Please review my contribution, and merge this small change
 to the origin if you find the need.
 
  GIT PATH: git://github.com/takaxp/org-mode.git
  BRANCH NAME: master
 
 Best regards,
 Takaaki ISHIKAWA
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Orgmode] Calendars Agenda mode

2010-04-28 Thread Takaaki ISHIKAWA
Dear David,

I have used iCalendar exporter to export an important schedule
on orgmode.
So it is org-mode - iCalendar.

Actually, I use this exporter with Dropbox service.
1. Export a iCal file to Dropbox directory
   (Dropbox will upload the file to the internet automatically)
2. iCal.app on Mac get the iCal file from the internet,
and display the schedule as a special item.

That's very useful for me.

Best regards,
Takaaki ISHIKAWA


On 2010/04/29, at 2:48, David Frascone wrote:

 
  iCalendar exporting? importing?
 Is anyone using this?  I've avoided agenda like stuff, since I have a
 calendar that is very full of meetings, appointments, etc.  (In fact,
 I have several, some at work, some on google calendars).  While I'd
 love to add todo's with dates, using orgmode for my real calendar
 seemed a bit much.  Does anyone else using calendars also use orgmode?
 If so, do you sync, and in what direction.  (i.e. org-mode -
 iCalendar, or move everything from other calendars - org-mode?)
 
 
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Re: [Orgmode] Calendars Agenda mode

2010-04-28 Thread Matt Price
 On 2010/04/29, at 2:48, David Frascone wrote:


  iCalendar exporting? importing?
 Is anyone using this?  I've avoided agenda like stuff, since I have a
 calendar that is very full of meetings, appointments, etc.  (In fact,
 I have several, some at work, some on google calendars).  While I'd
 love to add todo's with dates, using orgmode for my real calendar
 seemed a bit much.  Does anyone else using calendars also use orgmode?
 If so, do you sync, and in what direction.  (i.e. org-mode -
 iCalendar, or move everything from other calendars - org-mode?)


i am also interested in this question and would especially love to
hear how people work with google calendar-- which we use here to
collaborate in all kinds of ways, mostly with people who wouldn't know
emacs from, what, notepad; so that it's impossible for me to extricate
myself from the google calendar ecosystem.  if anyone has good ideas
about integration i'd love to hear them!

matt


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[Orgmode] Relative timer: failure to reset times in active region

2010-04-28 Thread Alan E. Davis
I took some notes on a video this morning, using a relative timer.  I
wasn't able to start until several minutes into the video.  Then,
later, I went back and started from the beginning, starting the timer
pretty much on time.  Now I have to reset all the times in the
original notes from this morning.

I found this in the documentation for the relative timer:

`C-c C-x 0'
 Reset the timer without inserting anything into the buffer.  By
 default, the timer is reset to 0.  When called with a `C-u'
 prefix, reset the timer to specific starting offset.  The user is
 prompted for the offset, with a default taken from a timer string
 at point, if any, So this can be used to restart taking notes
 after a break in the process.  When called with a double prefix
 argument `C-c C-u', change all timer strings in the active region
 by a certain amount.  This can be used to fix timer strings if the
 timer was not started at exactly the right moment.

When I tried this on the original notes, the function
outline-up-heading is invoked.  Is there a typo in the docs?

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Re: [Orgmode] Relative timer: failure to reset times in active region

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 29, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Alan E. Davis wrote:


I took some notes on a video this morning, using a relative timer.  I
wasn't able to start until several minutes into the video.  Then,
later, I went back and started from the beginning, starting the timer
pretty much on time.  Now I have to reset all the times in the
original notes from this morning.

I found this in the documentation for the relative timer:

`C-c C-x 0'
Reset the timer without inserting anything into the buffer.  By
default, the timer is reset to 0.  When called with a `C-u'
prefix, reset the timer to specific starting offset.  The user is
prompted for the offset, with a default taken from a timer string
at point, if any, So this can be used to restart taking notes
after a break in the process.  When called with a double prefix
argument `C-c C-u', change all timer strings in the active region
by a certain amount.  This can be used to fix timer strings if the
timer was not started at exactly the right moment.

When I tried this on the original notes, the function
outline-up-heading is invoked.  Is there a typo in the docs?



Prefix means, C-u before the other keys, C-u C-c C-x 0
I guess you tries C-c C-u   ?

- Carsten


Alan


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