Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Thomas S. Dye

On Aug 29, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:


Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com wrote:

He wants to write up a document using org-mode's outline facilities  
as

a skeleton to help him build up, navigate and visualize his document,
but then he wants only to use SOME of the headlines but ALL of the
text when he actually makes a printed version for others to read.
I've wanted this as well, since when you think about it the structure
you need as a writer may not be the structure you want to pass on to
your readers.



OK, thanks for the clarification: that was one of the interpretations
that did not make much sense to me, but I was looking at it from a  
much
more rigid point of view, where the headlines are what give  
structure to

the document, so you want to preserve them at all costs; I wasn't
thinking about different meanings that they might have for different
people.

However, it still sounds like an ill-defined problem to me: in
particular, your manual algorithm would wreak havoc on an outline with
headlines at multiple levels. What is the real algorithm supposed to
do with something like this:

,
| * foo
| text1
| ** foo1
| text2
| * bar  :omit-this-header:
| text3
| **bar2 :omit-this-header:
| text4
| ***bar3
| text5
`

Or are we supposed to imagine headings at a single level only?

I suspect that one would be better off with two (or more) outlines:  
one for
the writer, one for the reader (perhaps one for each class of  
readers), with

some way to pick text from one outline and plug it into the other(s).

Nick


Aloha Alan et al.,

This is what I use LaTeX blocks in Babel for.  The outline stuff that  
helps me write is separate from the stuff I actually write.  I've been  
doing this for a while now and have been amazed at how much of what I  
write gets left behind, including headlines.


All the best,
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Re: [Orgmode] org-capture loses entered text when C-g on file selection

2010-08-30 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 28, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:



This may not technically be a bug, but it violated my expectations:

setup:

 (setq org-capture-templates
'((t task entry
   (file+headline notes.org Refile)
   * TODO %?\n  %U\n)))

Use 'C-c r' to start capturing.

Type 'foo'.

C-c C-w to start refiling

Type 'bar'.

Decide that you really didn't finish the note, and type C-g to get  
back

to editing the note.

Notice that your typed-in text is vanished.

C-h l output of a test case that shows this problem:

 C-c r f o o C-c C-w b a r C-g


Hi Greg,

unfortunately, the way this is implemented is the following:  It first
finalizes the capture, then it does the refile.  So it is difficult
to recover at that point.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] [Ann] Updates to org-drill (org topics as interactive flashcards using spaced repetition)

2010-08-30 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi paul,

I have installed the new version.

It might be useful if you increase teh version number with important  
changes - it still is 1.0 in the file.


- Carsten

On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Paul Sexton wrote:

Org-Drill has recently been added to the contrib directory of the  
org repository.


Latest version is in repository at:
http://bitbucket.org/eeeickythump/org-drill

I have made a couple of major updates recently. Changelogs are below.
Reports of user experiences are welcome.

Version 1.0
Added README with more detailed documentation.
Items which are failed during session are presented again before the  
session

ends.
Items which were failures at the last review session are presented  
first in the

next session.
Added recognition of leech items, based on excessive number of  
failures.

Leeches can be skipped or warned about.
When reviewing an item, the prompt shows the number of items  
remaining.

When the session finishes, the minibuffer shows a brief report givisng
statistics about total time spent reviewing, number of cards that
still need review, etc.
Fixed the regexp for cloze-deleted text.
Optional face for cloze text in org mode buffers.
New card type: twosided.

Version 1.1
Added implementation of SM2 algorithm (now supports both SM2 and SM5).
Add option 'org-drill-spaced-repetition-algorithm': choose either  
SM2 or SM5

algorithm.
Add option 'org-drill-add-random-noise-to-intervals-p': randomly  
vary repetition

intervals slightly, to avoid clumping.
Fixed a bug in org-learn's SM5 algorithm (intervals much too long).
Use overlays to display cloze deletions as '[...]' during reviews.
Cloze text can contain hints, which will visible during review.
Add option 'org-drill-failure-quality': customise which quality is  
regarded as

unambiguous failure (1 or 2).
Expanded documentation, and added section on 'incremental reading',  
with example

setup.




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Re: [Orgmode] Folding org drawers in elisp code?

2010-08-30 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:22 PM, Paul Sexton wrote:

Can anyone tell me how I can write elisp code to force drawers to  
appear closed

(folded) in an org buffer?



(org-cycle-hide-drawers 'all)

will cover the whole buffer.  Other arguments will cover smaller
sections, depending on what org-cycle just did.

In fact, you might want to look at all the functions in
org-cycle-hook, they do various kinds of cleanup after visibility
has been changed.

Best wishes

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops

2010-08-30 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi,

I have not followed this thread closely, so if the discussion ends
in something we should change in Org, please write to me and let me  
know explicitly.


Thanks!

- Carsten

On Aug 26, 2010, at 11:41 PM, Alan L Tyree wrote:


On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:34:08 -0500
Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote:


Hello,

I'm wondering if anyone can

1) reproduce what I'm seeing
2) help in understanding what's going on.

If I export an Org file to LaTeX, the resulting
.tex file contains the following in its header:

SNIP
Erik,
I just realised that I had added \usepackage{lmodern} to get the  
result

that I mentioned in my last post.

Without the lmodern package, the output still looks OK, but the fonts
are No Name Type 3 Embedded.

HTH,
Alan



Thanks!
Erik

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Re: [Orgmode] publishing to PDF

2010-08-30 Thread Russell Adams
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:15:52PM +0200, Erwin Panen wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 (Shell command failed with code 127 and some error output) [2 times]
 Processing LaTeX file...done
 org-export-as-pdf: PDF file was not produced

You may not be doing anything wrong. Is there a buffer which contains
the error output?

If not, try running 'pdflatex yourorgfile.tex' in the directory with
your Org file. By default, a file named .tex is written there by the
export.

You should be able to debug it further with that output.

Good luck! (FYI, ask on IRC too)

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Re: [Orgmode] org tables - modified field

2010-08-30 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Seweryn Kokot wrote:


Hi,

I have the following table

#+TBLNAME: table_three
|+|
|  1 | 2  |
|+|
|   2.00 | *4.00* |
| *4.00* | #ERROR |
|+|
#+TBLFM: @2$1...@1$1;%.2f::@2$2...@1$2;*%.2f*::@3$1...@2$1;*%. 
2f*::@3$2...@2

$2;*%.2f*

in which I would like to have some fields bold in org buffer and  
latex export


\begin{center}
\begin{tabular}{rl}
\hline
12  \\
\hline
 2.00\textbf{4.00}  \\
\textbf{4.00}\#ERROR\\
\hline
\end{tabular}
\end{center}

However, since the field B3 refers to the field B2 which is not  
exactly a

number, I get an error.

Would it be possible to reuse the field B2 in another formula,  
somehow?


Only if you use elisp formulas and strip the stars yourself.  Calc
cannot solve this for you, so computations using calc with emphasized
fields are not allowed in org tables.

HTH

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] publishing to PDF

2010-08-30 Thread Sebastian Rose
Erwin Panen erwinpa...@fastmail.fm writes:
 Hi everyone,

 Trying to make my first steps in publishing.
 I'm working on Mac, using Emacs 23.2.1 with Org-mode version 6.36trans.

 I seem to have various LaTeX stuff installed on my MacBook. I have to admit 
 that
 I have no experience with LaTeX whatsoever. (TeXShop, LaTeXit, TeXWorks) So 
 I'm
 not sure if my configuration if any is correct in this view.

 When I issue:
 C-c C-e p
 I get following message:
 -
 For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
 OVERVIEW
 CHILDREN
 SUBTREE
 Select command:
 Exporting to PDF...
 Exporting to LaTeX...
 Saving file /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex...
 Wrote /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex
 Saving file /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex...
 Wrote /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex
 LaTeX export done, pushed to kill ring and clipboard
 Processing LaTeX file...
 (Shell command failed with code 127 and some error output) [2 times]
 Processing LaTeX file...done
 org-export-as-pdf: PDF file was not produced
 


Hi Erwin,


not sure about MAC, but for most UNIX shells (i think), a return value
of 127 means command not found.  It seems some LaTeX packages are
missing.

Most of us use the TexLive distribution, a collection of the most
commonly used LaTeX packages and binaries.

Are you able to execute the command `pdflatex' in a console?


  Sebastian

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[Orgmode] firefox and org-protocol issue

2010-08-30 Thread ricco *
Hello,

I have an issue using *org-protocol* and *Firefox:
*
I used this page: *http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php* to
configure Firefox.

If i use the test links on the org-protocol page (Verify the
installation), here is what happens:

- using the store-link bookmark i have this message :

`M-x org-insert-link' to insert new org-link, `C-y' to insert `
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php'. i believed that the
link would be automaticaly inserted.

- using the capture link :

a new empty file is open. the title of this file in the previously selected
text.

- using the remember link:

a new remember buffer is open with this help text :

# C-c C-c  ~/.notes - * 
## C-u C-c C-c  like C-c C-c, and immediately visit note at target location
## C-0 C-c C-c  ??? - * ???
## C-1 C-c C-c  to select file and header location interactively.
## C-2 C-c C-c  as child of the currently clocked item
## To switch templates, use `M-x org-remember'.  To abort use `C-c C-k

If i use 'C-c C-c', the buffer is saved the but only with this previous help
text ( not with the selected text ...).


Ubuntu 10.04
Emacs 23.1+1-4ubuntu7
org-protocol: 6.27a ( was not installed with my Ubuntu's Emacs version )

thanks by advance for any comment that could help

riccco
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[Orgmode] anyone composing email in orgmode and sending with Mail.app?

2010-08-30 Thread Michael Gilbert
Hi all —

Slowly but surely Orgmode absorbs my various workflows. The latest one that I'm 
struggling with is email. I've read about org-mime and I'm not sure I'm ready 
to install an emacs email client. I know there are various mac os integration 
tools, but I'm fuzzy on how to do one particular workflow. As a result, I'm 
still clinging to Markdown for email. Raw orgmode, unfortunately, is not as 
readable to my clients and colleagues as Markdown is. Thus, I want to figure 
out a better workflow for sending email from Orgmode via Mail.app, perhaps with 
a plain text export of some kind or with HTML or RTF formatted email.

Anyone doing anything like this?

— Michael


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Re: [Orgmode] org-mode + pomodoro

2010-08-30 Thread Sergey Konoplev
On 27 August 2010 21:15, A. Ryan Reynolds a.ryan.reyno...@gmail.com wrote:
 I do this using Org-Mode and a kitchen timer. I clock in when I wind
 the timer, and clock out when it dings, instead of just marking with
 X's. To record distractions I keep a scratch buffer in org-mode open,
 although there may be a better way to capture distractions on the
 urgent and unplanned list using remember mode to file them away into a
 more organized system. I just haven't had time to read about it. I
 like the fact that the urgent  unplanned items don't go anywhere
 unless I decide to file them though, because it keeps my to-do list
 cleaner that way. During my most distracted periods I tend to capture
 a lot of stray to-do items of only marginal utility.

 I'm not sure my personal workflow will work exactly right for anyone
 but myself (and it's still a work in progress for me too!), but I'm
 happy to answer any other questions you might have about it.

Thank you. I will try it with http://tomatoi.st timer.

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[Orgmode] Org mode manual written in? texinfo?

2010-08-30 Thread Gustav Wikström
I was just wondering... Is the manual written in texinfo markup, or is there
some obscure .org file behind the manual still?

If it really is written in texinfo, is this not a shortcoming? Org mode is
capable of generating html and pdf etc. Why not use it for the manual then
to set the example and show its powers!?

/Gustav
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Re: [Orgmode] publishing to PDF

2010-08-30 Thread Erwin Panen

 Hi Sebastian,

Thanks for your very fast reply :-)
Yes, I can issue 'pdflatex' from a console:
-
macbook:~ erwin$ pdflatex
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009)
**
-

I assume it must be a matter of config?

Erwin

On 30/08/10 14:38, Sebastian Rose wrote:

Erwin Panenerwinpa...@fastmail.fm  writes:

Hi everyone,

Trying to make my first steps in publishing.
I'm working on Mac, using Emacs 23.2.1 with Org-mode version 6.36trans.

I seem to have various LaTeX stuff installed on my MacBook. I have to admit that
I have no experience with LaTeX whatsoever. (TeXShop, LaTeXit, TeXWorks) So I'm
not sure if my configuration if any is correct in this view.

When I issue:
C-c C-e p
I get following message:
-
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
OVERVIEW
CHILDREN
SUBTREE
Select command:
Exporting to PDF...
Exporting to LaTeX...
Saving file /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex...
Wrote /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex
Saving file /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex...
Wrote /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex
LaTeX export done, pushed to kill ring and clipboard
Processing LaTeX file...
(Shell command failed with code 127 and some error output) [2 times]
Processing LaTeX file...done
org-export-as-pdf: PDF file was not produced



Hi Erwin,


not sure about MAC, but for most UNIX shells (i think), a return value
of 127 means command not found.  It seems some LaTeX packages are
missing.

Most of us use the TexLive distribution, a collection of the most
commonly used LaTeX packages and binaries.

Are you able to execute the command `pdflatex' in a console?


   Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] problem with mime conversion for emails

2010-08-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 14:52:10 -0600, Eric Schulte schulte.e...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
 Hi Eric,
 
 An easy fix may be using the `org-mime-html-hook' to post-process the
 html, the following (untested) should be sufficient.
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 (add-hook 'org-mime-html-hook
   (lambda ()
 (replace-regexp
  (regexp-quote span style=\visibility:hidden;\X/span)
  nbsp;)))
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 To me, this seems easier than having an email-specific export target.

Yes, this is probably the best approach (and thanks for the actual
elisp code which is nice and succinct!).

I do still wonder at the need for the extra level of complexity
introduced by the visibility attribute, especially given that the
checkboxes only line up if none of them is of the type [-]...

Anyway, I've put this code in my config!  Thanks again.
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[Orgmode] Re: Agenda view and timestamps

2010-08-30 Thread julien cubizolles
Le lundi 23 août 2010 à 22:30 -0400, Matt Lundin a écrit :
 Hi Julien,

 Another solution is to use the variable org-agenda-entry-types. This is
 slightly more efficient, since it searches solely for timestamps when
 creating the agenda, rather than considering all agenda types and then
 filtering out everything that is not a timestamp.
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'((d With timestamps agenda List of tasks with a timestamp
 ((org-agenda-entry-types '(:timestamp))
 --8---cut here---end---8---

It works, thanks a lot. I don't know how I missed org-agenda-entry-types
while reading the doc.

Julien.



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Re: [Orgmode] Org mode manual written in? texinfo?

2010-08-30 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Gustav Wikström wrote:

I was just wondering... Is the manual written in texinfo markup, or  
is there some obscure .org file behind the manual still?


If it really is written in texinfo, is this not a shortcoming? Org  
mode is capable of generating html and pdf etc. Why not use it for  
the manual then to set the example and show its powers!?


Org-mode is currently not able to produce TeXInfo, which is the  
standard for Emacs documentation.  Also TeXInfo has support for lots  
of indices etc.


- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] firefox and org-protocol issue

2010-08-30 Thread Sebastian Rose
ricco * ric...@gmail.com writes:
 Hello,

 I have an issue using *org-protocol* and *Firefox:
 *
 I used this page: *http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php* to
 configure Firefox.

 If i use the test links on the org-protocol page (Verify the
 installation), here is what happens:

 - using the store-link bookmark i have this message :

 `M-x org-insert-link' to insert new org-link, `C-y' to insert `
 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php'. i believed that the
 link would be automaticaly inserted.


No, it's not.  Instead, you may now insert a link using
`org-insert-link' (`C-c C-l') or just yank the URL (`C-y').



 - using the capture link :

 a new empty file is open. the title of this file in the previously selected
 text.

 - using the remember link:

 a new remember buffer is open with this help text :

 # C-c C-c  ~/.notes - * 
 ## C-u C-c C-c  like C-c C-c, and immediately visit note at target location
 ## C-0 C-c C-c  ??? - * ???
 ## C-1 C-c C-c  to select file and header location interactively.
 ## C-2 C-c C-c  as child of the currently clocked item
 ## To switch templates, use `M-x org-remember'.  To abort use `C-c C-k

 If i use 'C-c C-c', the buffer is saved the but only with this previous help
 text ( not with the selected text ...).


This sounds strange...

I cannot reproduce thist here.  What are the contents of your template
with template char w?


Here is mine:

defvar trainingstemplate (org-file-contents 
~/emacs/org/capture-templates/training.org))
   (setq org-capture-templates
 (quote
  ((w  entry (file+headline ~/emacs/org/notes/remember.org 
Notizen)
* %^{Title}\n\n  @span class=\quelle\Quelle: %u, 
%c@/span\n\n  %i
:empty-lines 1)
   
;; ... etc. more templates...
   )))




I adjusted http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/org-protocol.php slightly
to make it a bit more clear hopefully ;)


  Sebastian

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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Scot Becker
Hmm, Tomas, this is interesting.  I have thought about using babel for this
sort of thing, but assumed that the textual overhead would be too high to
make it worth it (It'd be ugly, and not that fun to generate).  I don't
suppose you'd be so kind as to past in an example that shows this kind of
thing in action?  Even just an example text itself, with the structure and
some blocks. (And of course, I do still owe you my examples of org+xetex).

Scot
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[Orgmode] org.texi patch for small typo

2010-08-30 Thread Stephen Eglen
diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/org.texi
index 2e61ddf..4ce32ce 100644
--- a/doc/org.texi
+++ b/doc/org.texi
@@ -11176,10 +11176,10 @@ Include the code block in the tangled output to file 
@samp{filename}.
 @kindex  C-c C-v t
 @subsubheading Functions
 @table @code
-...@item org-babel-tangle @kbd{C-c C-v t}
-Tangle the current file.
+...@item org-babel-tangle 
+Tangle the current file.  Bound to @kbd{C-c C-v t}.
 @item org-babel-tangle-file
-Choose a file to tangle.
+Choose a file to tangle.   Bound to @kbd{C-c C-v f}.
 @end table
 
 @subsubheading Hooks

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Re: [Orgmode] a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have not followed this thread closely, so if the discussion ends
 in something we should change in Org, please write to me and let me
 know explicitly.
 
 Thanks!
 

Erik Iverson might have a different take but my take is that there is
no major issue. Two minor issues:

One possible change to org is an addition to the documentation
recommending the texlive-fonts-extra package: it includes the cm-super
Type1 fonts - type1 fonts behave better with Evince (and possibly other
PDF viewers) than type3 fonts.

The other possible change that Erik identified is the deletion of the
t1enc package from the list of packages that org includes in exported
LaTeX by default. I haven't tried without it, but it does indeed seem to
be an obsolete remnant of times long past. The TeX FAQ
(http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=t1enc ) says:

,
| Why use fontenc rather than t1enc?
| 
| In the very earliest days of LaTeX2e, the only way to use the T1
| encoding was t1enc; with the summer 1994 “production” release, the
| fontenc package appeared, and provided comprehensive support for use of
| the encoding.
| 
| Nevertheless, the t1enc package remains (as part of the LaTeX 2.09
| compatibility code), but it does very little: it merely selects font
| encoding T1, and leaves to the user the business of generating the
| character codes required.
| 
| Generating such character codes could be a simple matter, if the T1
| encoding matched any widely-supported encoding standard, since in that
| case, one might expect one’s keyboard to generate the character
| codes. However, the T1 encoding is a mix of several standard encodings,
| and includes code points in areas of the table which standard encodings
| specifically exclude, so no T1 keyboards have been (or ever will be)
| manufactured.
| 
| By contrast, the fontenc package generates the T1 code points from
| ordinary LaTeX commands (e.g., it generates the é character codepoint
| from the command \’e). So, unless you have program-generated T1 input,
| use \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} rather than \usepackage{t1enc}.
`

Nick

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[Orgmode] [PATCH] Make the number of printed weeks configureable

2010-08-30 Thread Christian Egli

This is useful for the hipster PDA where you might want to print more
weeks than just four.
---
 contrib/scripts/org2hpda |7 ++-
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)

diff --git a/contrib/scripts/org2hpda b/contrib/scripts/org2hpda
index 1957aa9..6b308f3 100755
--- a/contrib/scripts/org2hpda
+++ b/contrib/scripts/org2hpda
@@ -44,6 +44,11 @@ EMACS = emacs -batch -l ~/.emacs
 LATEX = latex
 DIARY = $($(EMACS) -eval diary-file)
 
+# Number of weeks to be printed. Should be a multiple of 4, because 4
+# of them are merged on one page. Can be set when invoking the script
+# as follows: make NUMBER_OF_WEEKS=8 -f org2hpda
+NUMBER_OF_WEEKS = 4 
+
 hipsterFiles =  weekCalendar.pdf yearCalendar.pdf monthCalendar3.pdf 
monthCalendar2.pdf monthCalendar1.pdf
 pocketModFiles =  weekCalendar.pdf yearCalendar-rotated.pdf \
monthCalendar3-rotated.pdf monthCalendar2-rotated.pdf 
monthCalendar1-rotated.pdf
@@ -73,7 +78,7 @@ all: pocketMod.pdf hipsterPDA.pdf
done
 
 weekCalendar.tex: $(DIARY)
-   $(EMACS) -eval (progn (calendar) (cal-tex-cursor-week-iso 4) 
(with-current-buffer cal-tex-buffer (write-file \$...@\)))
+   $(EMACS) -eval (progn (calendar) (cal-tex-cursor-week-iso 
$(NUMBER_OF_WEEKS)) (with-current-buffer cal-tex-buffer (write-file 
\$...@\)))
 
 monthCalendar1.tex: $(DIARY)
 $(EMACS) -eval (progn (calendar) (cal-tex-cursor-month-landscape 1) 
(with-current-buffer cal-tex-buffer (write-file \$...@\)))
-- 
1.7.0.4

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Re: [Orgmode] a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops

2010-08-30 Thread Erik Iverson



Nick Dokos wrote:

Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,

I have not followed this thread closely, so if the discussion ends
in something we should change in Org, please write to me and let me
know explicitly.

Thanks!



Erik Iverson might have a different take but my take is that there is
no major issue. Two minor issues:

One possible change to org is an addition to the documentation
recommending the texlive-fonts-extra package: it includes the cm-super
Type1 fonts - type1 fonts behave better with Evince (and possibly other
PDF viewers) than type3 fonts.



That would be my thought, too.  However, it appears that cm-super is
only suggested by texlive-fonts-extra, so in general
will not get installed with that package, unless you ask for
suggested packages also. (This is all Debian/Ubuntu by the way).

Both this system and MikTeX
offer cm-super as a standalone package, so perhaps just recommending
that package (cm-super) would suffice?  I confirmed that cm-super is
not one of the default MikTeX packages in a standard install, so
Windows users may benefit from this advice, too.


The other possible change that Erik identified is the deletion of the
t1enc package from the list of packages that org includes in exported
LaTeX by default. I haven't tried without it, but it does indeed seem to
be an obsolete remnant of times long past.


I have tried without it.  I was unable to to see any differences between
using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} and adding the \usepackage{t1enc}
line. This makes sense given the FAQ answer below.

 The TeX FAQ

(http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=t1enc ) says:

,
| Why use fontenc rather than t1enc?
| 
| In the very earliest days of LaTeX2e, the only way to use the T1

| encoding was t1enc; with the summer 1994 “production” release, the
| fontenc package appeared, and provided comprehensive support for use of
| the encoding.
| 
| Nevertheless, the t1enc package remains (as part of the LaTeX 2.09

| compatibility code), but it does very little: it merely selects font
| encoding T1, and leaves to the user the business of generating the
| character codes required.
| 
| Generating such character codes could be a simple matter, if the T1

| encoding matched any widely-supported encoding standard, since in that
| case, one might expect one’s keyboard to generate the character
| codes. However, the T1 encoding is a mix of several standard encodings,
| and includes code points in areas of the table which standard encodings
| specifically exclude, so no T1 keyboards have been (or ever will be)
| manufactured.
| 
| By contrast, the fontenc package generates the T1 code points from

| ordinary LaTeX commands (e.g., it generates the é character codepoint
| from the command \’e). So, unless you have program-generated T1 input,
| use \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} rather than \usepackage{t1enc}.
`

Nick


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Re: [Orgmode] Org mode manual written in? texinfo?

2010-08-30 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Aloha Gustav,

Theoretically, one could export from org to docbook, then output  
texinfo with docbook2x.  I tried this a while ago but couldn't get  
docbook2x to work with minimal effort and gave up.


Tom

On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Gustav Wikström wrote:

I was just wondering... Is the manual written in texinfo markup, or  
is there some obscure .org file behind the manual still?


If it really is written in texinfo, is this not a shortcoming? Org  
mode is capable of generating html and pdf etc. Why not use it for  
the manual then to set the example and show its powers!?


/Gustav
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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Aloha Scot,

An example is here:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/research-project.php

This approach is *definitely* not as much fun as the Org-mode LaTeX  
exporter, and the org files can be ugly, but it gives fine control  
over the LaTeX output and can produce notes and metadata in LaTeX,  
HTML, docbook, etc.


I use it for projects intended for publication, where I'm willing to  
invest some thought and energy into the setup.


Let me know if you have questions.

All the best,
Tom

P.S. Yes, by all means, let me know when you've tamed the xetex  
configuration or edit the LaTeX export tutorial yourself to include  
what you've found.


On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Scot Becker wrote:

Hmm, Tomas, this is interesting.  I have thought about using babel  
for this sort of thing, but assumed that the textual overhead would  
be too high to make it worth it (It'd be ugly, and not that fun to  
generate).  I don't suppose you'd be so kind as to past in an  
example that shows this kind of thing in action?  Even just an  
example text itself, with the structure and some blocks. (And of  
course, I do still owe you my examples of org+xetex).


Scot



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Re: [Orgmode] publishing to PDF

2010-08-30 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Hi Erwin,

Does Emacs know the path to your LaTeX executables?

I have these lines in .emacs (don't know why I have both and not sure  
now if one or both are needed):


(setenv PATH (concat (getenv PATH) :/usr/texbin))
(setq exec-path (append exec-path '(/usr/texbin)))

hth,
Tom

On Aug 30, 2010, at 2:41 AM, Erwin Panen wrote:


Hi Sebastian,

Thanks for your very fast reply :-)
Yes, I can issue 'pdflatex' from a console:
-
macbook:~ erwin$ pdflatex
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009)
**
-

I assume it must be a matter of config?

Erwin

On 30/08/10 14:38, Sebastian Rose wrote:

Erwin Panenerwinpa...@fastmail.fm  writes:

Hi everyone,

Trying to make my first steps in publishing.
I'm working on Mac, using Emacs 23.2.1 with Org-mode version  
6.36trans.


I seem to have various LaTeX stuff installed on my MacBook. I have  
to admit that
I have no experience with LaTeX whatsoever. (TeXShop, LaTeXit,  
TeXWorks) So I'm

not sure if my configuration if any is correct in this view.

When I issue:
C-c C-e p
I get following message:
-
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
OVERVIEW
CHILDREN
SUBTREE
Select command:
Exporting to PDF...
Exporting to LaTeX...
Saving file /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex...
Wrote /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex
Saving file /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex...
Wrote /Users/erwin/git/org/Erhard.tex
LaTeX export done, pushed to kill ring and clipboard
Processing LaTeX file...
(Shell command failed with code 127 and some error output) [2 times]
Processing LaTeX file...done
org-export-as-pdf: PDF file was not produced



Hi Erwin,


not sure about MAC, but for most UNIX shells (i think), a return  
value

of 127 means command not found.  It seems some LaTeX packages are
missing.

Most of us use the TexLive distribution, a collection of the most
commonly used LaTeX packages and binaries.

Are you able to execute the command `pdflatex' in a console?


  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Alan E. Davis
Yes, I want (in some cases) to use headlines for purposes of organization.
 I want at least some of them to disappear in the output.

I could turn in a request for a feature, here:

#+OPTIONS: H:1 lower:nil

Or something else that would give the option that instead of automatically
converting all lower order headlines into list elements, to ignore them
entirely.  Of course, the case may exist where one wishes to actually have a
list converted as is, but lower level headings to disappear.

Thanks for the information about configuring converstion to \section{},
\subsection{}, \paragraph{}, etc.

Aloha,

Alan
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Re: [Orgmode] a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote:

 That would be my thought, too.  However, it appears that cm-super is
 only suggested by texlive-fonts-extra, so in general
 will not get installed with that package, unless you ask for
 suggested packages also. (This is all Debian/Ubuntu by the way).
 

Right. I was wrong about texlive-fonts-extra: you need to install the
cm-super package to get the cm-super fonts. I am investigating the
various fonts right now and will update the org-dependencies.org file on
Worg later on this week. We can also add a FAQ entry to point back to
org-dependencies - that should take care of the documentation changes,
right?

 Both this system and MikTeX
 offer cm-super as a standalone package, so perhaps just recommending
 that package (cm-super) would suffice?  I confirmed that cm-super is
 not one of the default MikTeX packages in a standard install, so
 Windows users may benefit from this advice, too.

Do windows users use evince? I'd think they mostly go with Acrobat Reader,
in which case they should have no problems with Type3 fonts.

  The other possible change that Erik identified is the deletion of the
  t1enc package from the list of packages that org includes in exported
  LaTeX by default. I haven't tried without it, but it does indeed seem to
  be an obsolete remnant of times long past.
 
 I have tried without it.  I was unable to to see any differences between
 using \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} and adding the \usepackage{t1enc}
 line. This makes sense given the FAQ answer below.
 

So getting rid of the \usepackage{t1enc} in org sounds like the right
thing to do (but including it does not hurt, so there is no urgency,
iiuc.)

Nick

  The TeX FAQ
  (http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=t1enc ) says:
 
  ,
  | Why use fontenc rather than t1enc?
  | | In the very earliest days of LaTeX2e, the only way to use the T1
  | encoding was t1enc; with the summer 1994 “production” release, the
  | fontenc package appeared, and provided comprehensive support for use of
  | the encoding.
  | | Nevertheless, the t1enc package remains (as part of the LaTeX
  2.09
  | compatibility code), but it does very little: it merely selects font
  | encoding T1, and leaves to the user the business of generating the
  | character codes required.
  | | Generating such character codes could be a simple matter, if the
  T1
  | encoding matched any widely-supported encoding standard, since in that
  | case, one might expect one’s keyboard to generate the character
  | codes. However, the T1 encoding is a mix of several standard encodings,
  | and includes code points in areas of the table which standard encodings
  | specifically exclude, so no T1 keyboards have been (or ever will be)
  | manufactured.
  | | By contrast, the fontenc package generates the T1 code points
  from
  | ordinary LaTeX commands (e.g., it generates the é character codepoint
  | from the command \’e). So, unless you have program-generated T1 input,
  | use \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} rather than \usepackage{t1enc}.
  `
 
  Nick
 
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[Orgmode] Re: publishing to PDF

2010-08-30 Thread Achim Gratz
Erwin Panen erwinpa...@fastmail.fm writes:

 macbook:~ erwin$ pdflatex
 This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009)

 I assume it must be a matter of config?

I think you need to let Emacs know that you want to run pdflatex.  this
can be done in various ways.  In current AucTeX you switch between PDF
and DVI output by C-c C-t C-p for instance, in older versions you needed
to enter a whole bunch of command strings to do the same thing.


Achim.


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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes, I want (in some cases) to use headlines for purposes of organization.
  I want at least some of them to disappear in the output.
 
 I could turn in a request for a feature, here:
 
 #+OPTIONS: H:1 lower:nil
 
 Or something else that would give the option that instead of automatically
 converting all lower order headlines into list elements, to ignore them
 entirely.

Have you tried setting org-export-latex-low-levels to nil? AFAIK, that
gets rid of everything, not just the headlines, but does it help at all
in your use case?

Nick

C-h v org-export-latex-low-levels says:

,
| org-export-latex-low-levels is a variable defined in `org-latex.el'.
| Its value is itemize
| 
| Documentation:
| How to convert sections below the current level of sectioning.
| This is specified by the `org-export-headline-levels' option or the
| value of H: in Org's #+OPTION line.
| 
| This can be either nil (skip the sections), `description', `itemize',
| or `enumerate' (convert the sections as the corresponding list type), or
| a string to be used instead of \section{%s}.  In this latter case,
| the %s stands here for the inserted headline and is mandatory.
| 
| It may also be a list of three string to define a user-defined environment
| that should be used.  The first string should be the like
| \begin{itemize}, the second should be like \item %s %s with up
| to two occurrences of %s for the title and a label, respectively.  The third
| string should be like \end{itemize.
| 
| You can customize this variable.
`


  Of course, the case may exist where one wishes to actually have a
 list converted as is, but lower level headings to disappear.
 
 Thanks for the information about configuring converstion to \section{},
 \subsection{}, \paragraph{}, etc.
 

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Re: [Orgmode] tag or property names with dashes

2010-08-30 Thread Manish
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Hi Manish,

 this looks pretty good.  I just went over the patch and
 found something like 5 locations where you did not make
 the change, and I fixed those.

 Have you been testing your patch extensively?  Some testing
 needs to be done before we can merge it.

Yes, I have been running with this patch for over a week now and
haven't faced any issues so far.  I have tested it with HTML, Latex
and ASCII exports, with block agenda, tag filtering, special ctrl-a/e
etc. and haven't faced any issues so far.  It did not break any thing
for me.. so far.

-- Manish

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[Orgmode] Issue with non-existing agenda file

2010-08-30 Thread Markus Heller
Hello all,

I'm stuck with a weird issue:

When I tried to invoke any agenda view, e.g. C-c a a, I get the
following message in the minibuffer:

non-existing agenda file h:/org/career.org [R]emove from list or
[A]bort?

I type R to remove it, get my agenda view, and then I switch the
buffer to Career.org and hit C-[ and get file added to front of agenda
list, but when I try C-c a a again, I get the message above about the
non-existing agenda file.

What's going on here?

Thanks and Cheers
Markus

PS: My org is 7.01trans, release_7.01h-229-gb212 on emacs 23.1


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Re: [Orgmode] a bit offtopic, fonts in exported PDF documents - oops

2010-08-30 Thread Joost Kremers
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:58:15AM -0400, Nick Dokos wrote:
 Erik Iverson er...@ccbr.umn.edu wrote:
  Both this system and MikTeX
  offer cm-super as a standalone package, so perhaps just recommending
  that package (cm-super) would suffice?  I confirmed that cm-super is
  not one of the default MikTeX packages in a standard install, so
  Windows users may benefit from this advice, too.
 
 Do windows users use evince? I'd think they mostly go with Acrobat Reader,
 in which case they should have no problems with Type3 fonts.

until they start sending their pdfs to other people, who might not be so
lucky... ;-)
 
Joost

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Georg-August-Universität
Seminar für Deutsche Philologie
Käte-Hamburger-Weg 3
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Re: [Orgmode] Issue with non-existing agenda file

2010-08-30 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:57:14 -0700, Markus Heller helle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I'm stuck with a weird issue:
 
 When I tried to invoke any agenda view, e.g. C-c a a, I get the
 following message in the minibuffer:
 
 non-existing agenda file h:/org/career.org [R]emove from list or
 [A]bort?
 
 I type R to remove it, get my agenda view, and then I switch the
 buffer to Career.org and hit C-[ and get file added to front of agenda
 list, but when I try C-c a a again, I get the message above about the
 non-existing agenda file.
 
 What's going on here?
 
 Thanks and Cheers
 Markus
 
 PS: My org is 7.01trans, release_7.01h-229-gb212 on emacs 23.1

I assume you're on MS Windows here...  what is the value of
org-agenda-files after you add the file?  is case (Career versus
career) an issue?  You say I switch the buffer to Career.org; have
you actually saved the file?

Sorry if I can't be of more help.
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[Orgmode] Re: Issue with non-existing agenda file

2010-08-30 Thread Markus Heller
Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:57:14 -0700, Markus Heller helle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I'm stuck with a weird issue:
 
 When I tried to invoke any agenda view, e.g. C-c a a, I get the
 following message in the minibuffer:
 
 non-existing agenda file h:/org/career.org [R]emove from list or
 [A]bort?
 
 I type R to remove it, get my agenda view, and then I switch the
 buffer to Career.org and hit C-[ and get file added to front of agenda
 list, but when I try C-c a a again, I get the message above about the
 non-existing agenda file.
 
 What's going on here?
 
 Thanks and Cheers
 Markus
 
 PS: My org is 7.01trans, release_7.01h-229-gb212 on emacs 23.1

 I assume you're on MS Windows here...  what is the value of
 org-agenda-files after you add the file?  is case (Career versus
 career) an issue?  You say I switch the buffer to Career.org; have
 you actually saved the file?

Err, how do I check the value of org-agenda-files?

Wow, this just makes me realize how much of a newbie I still am ...

Thanks for everyone's patience!

Markus


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Issue with non-existing agenda file

2010-08-30 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Hi Markus,

Try C-h v org-agenda-files RET.  The mnemonic is Help Variables.

Tom

On Aug 30, 2010, at 9:34 AM, Markus Heller wrote:


Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:57:14 -0700, Markus Heller  
helle...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello all,

I'm stuck with a weird issue:

When I tried to invoke any agenda view, e.g. C-c a a, I get the
following message in the minibuffer:

non-existing agenda file h:/org/career.org [R]emove from list or
[A]bort?

I type R to remove it, get my agenda view, and then I switch the
buffer to Career.org and hit C-[ and get file added to front of  
agenda
list, but when I try C-c a a again, I get the message above about  
the

non-existing agenda file.

What's going on here?

Thanks and Cheers
Markus

PS: My org is 7.01trans, release_7.01h-229-gb212 on emacs 23.1


I assume you're on MS Windows here...  what is the value of
org-agenda-files after you add the file?  is case (Career versus
career) an issue?  You say I switch the buffer to Career.org; have
you actually saved the file?


Err, how do I check the value of org-agenda-files?

Wow, this just makes me realize how much of a newbie I still am ...

Thanks for everyone's patience!

Markus


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[Orgmode] Re: Issue with non-existing agenda file

2010-08-30 Thread Markus Heller
Eric S Fraga ucec...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:57:14 -0700, Markus Heller helle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 I'm stuck with a weird issue:
 
 When I tried to invoke any agenda view, e.g. C-c a a, I get the
 following message in the minibuffer:
 
 non-existing agenda file h:/org/career.org [R]emove from list or
 [A]bort?
 
 I type R to remove it, get my agenda view, and then I switch the
 buffer to Career.org and hit C-[ and get file added to front of agenda
 list, but when I try C-c a a again, I get the message above about the
 non-existing agenda file.
 
 What's going on here?
 
 Thanks and Cheers
 Markus
 
 PS: My org is 7.01trans, release_7.01h-229-gb212 on emacs 23.1

 I assume you're on MS Windows here...  what is the value of
 org-agenda-files after you add the file?  is case (Career versus
 career) an issue?  You say I switch the buffer to Career.org; have
 you actually saved the file?

So I checked, and org-agenda-files contains the correct capitalization.

After repeatedly getting stuck in the add-remove cycle (hitting R
followed by the same message, about 5 or 6 times), I am happy to
report that everything is back to working, and I will attribute this
event to me being a noob.

Sorry for the noise.

@Eric: Yes, the file was saved.


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[Orgmode] [MobileOrg] Need beta tester with iPhone OS 3.x

2010-08-30 Thread Richard Moreland
Is anyone still running OS 3.x out there and interested in helping?  I
need to verify that the new MobileOrg I'm about to release still works
on the older system.

Thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Scot Becker
Thanks, Thomas,

I knew I had seen that example.  I just couldn't find it when searching.

Scot

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com wrote:

 Aloha Scot,

 An example is here:

 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/research-project.php

 http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/examples/research-project.phpThis
 approach is *definitely* not as much fun as the Org-mode LaTeX exporter, and
 the org files can be ugly, but it gives fine control over the LaTeX output
 and can produce notes and metadata in LaTeX, HTML, docbook, etc.

 I use it for projects intended for publication, where I'm willing to invest
 some thought and energy into the setup.

 Let me know if you have questions.

 All the best,
 Tom

 P.S. Yes, by all means, let me know when you've tamed the xetex
 configuration or edit the LaTeX export tutorial yourself to include what
 you've found.

 On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:22 AM, Scot Becker wrote:

 Hmm, Tomas, this is interesting.  I have thought about using babel for this
 sort of thing, but assumed that the textual overhead would be too high to
 make it worth it (It'd be ugly, and not that fun to generate).  I don't
 suppose you'd be so kind as to past in an example that shows this kind of
 thing in action?  Even just an example text itself, with the structure and
 some blocks. (And of course, I do still owe you my examples of org+xetex).

 Scot



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Re: [Orgmode] [babel] Conditional tangling possible

2010-08-30 Thread Eric Schulte
Hi Rainer,

The easiest way to do this should be,

--8---cut here---start-8---
** pulling information from tags   :blue:

#+begin_src R :var color=(car (org-get-tags-at (point))) :tangle example.R
  color
#+end_src

#+results:
: blue
--8---cut here---end---8---

this will tangle to

--8---cut here---start-8---
color - blue
color
--8---cut here---end---8---

Cheers -- Eric

Rainer M Krug r.m.k...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi

 I would like to have two different versions (not in the sense of version
 control) of one program in one org file, and depending on the value if a
 tag is set or not, tangle either the one or the other. The tangled file
 has to have the same name.

 So essentially:



 ** Test Code  :VERSIONTAG
 Version 1:
 #+begin_src R :tangle result.R
   version - 1
   x - 10
 #+end_src

 Version 2:
 #+begin_src R :tangle result.R
   version - 2
   x - 13
 #+end_src

 If VERSIONTAG is Version1, result.R should contain the code as in the
 first code block, and if it is Version2, the code from the second code
 block.


 Is this possible?

 Cheers,

 Rainer

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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Alan E. Davis
 C-h v org-export-latex-low-levels


Cool.  Especially it's configurable on a case by case basis.  I looked at
customization of export/latex, but overlooked this.

Thank you.

Alan
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[Orgmode] HTML Export Problem

2010-08-30 Thread Scott Randby
Whenever I export to HTML, I get the following:

HTML generated by org-mode TAG=7.01g in emacs 23

I would like to get rid of the TAG= (which wasn't present in earlier
org-mode versions) without having to edit the HTML.
How do I do this?

Scott Randby

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[Orgmode] Archiving

2010-08-30 Thread Russell Adams
I'm quite excited, I've just converted over to Capture from Remember,
and I love the new :empty-lines property!

That was always a pet peeve of mine, I always want at least one blank
line between content and the next header. :empty-lines works great for
that!

Now I've started evaluating archival again, because my files currently
grow endlessly. I noticed that there's no similar option for archive,
and that each archived item is immediately adjacent to the prior
without any buffering newlines.

Could we add a customization to pad newlines between archived items?

I locally patched my org-archive.el to insert two newlines when it
jumps to the end of file, but perhaps a more formal item will work
better later?

Thanks.

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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Alan E. Davis
Scot:

I see what you mean

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com wrote:


 As you'll see org-mode's latex export is currently designed to use org for
 basic document structuring and only allows for a limited set of mappings
 between org's structure and latex structure.  But you'll see in the latex
 configuration documentation that it is possible to define what kind of
 \section{}, \chapter{}, or \subsubparagraph{} is exported for each level of
 org's headlines.

 One imagines it would be possible to define alternate use cases for a
class, for example the article class.  I can see it is possible to define
the article class to use

  \\section{%s}   for the first headline level
and
 \\paragraph{%s} for second levels

This would be useful to me.   However, the ordinary article structure with
subsection, subsubsection, etc., is good enough for much of what I do.   I
can imagine copying the article class file into my org directory, and
renaming it to article2.cls, and adding it to org-export-latex-classes, with
the section - paragraph structure.

Is there an easier or canonical way to do this?

Thank you for your interest and help.

Alan








 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote:

 Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sometimes, I have used outliners, like ThinkTank, to organize my
  thoughts, and reorganize the structure of a document of whatever kind.
  I don't need headings or sectioning in some cases.
 
  I have not found a way to exclude heading lines from
  LaTeX output in Orgmode, nor have I found a
  tag to say, omit this headline.  I do see the variables
  org-export-exclude-tags, and org-export-select tags; as well as an
  option to include a specific number of headings as LaTeX sections.  In
  the later case, other  headings are exported as plain list items, not
  what I have in mind.
 
  A related issue perhaps: what would it take to export, say list items,
  as paragraph and subparagraph sections in LaTeX.
 
  The ability to export a pdf almost automatically through LaTeX, even
  with images, is magical.  Many thanks for this.
 

 Some examples might help. I may be particularly dense tonight but I have
 read your mail a few times and I still have no idea what you are asking
 (or rather I have multiple ideas, none of which make much sense to me.)

 Thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Alan E. Davis
Perhaps I can get this done, but I have one important question.

When I define a new class in org-export-latex-classes, does it make sense
to add a new class that calls the same /documentclass{article} class?  I
could name this class article2, and define the section structure as I will.

Hope this is not a silly question.  MY head feels dense today,

Alan

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Scot:

 I see what you mean

 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.comwrote:


 As you'll see org-mode's latex export is currently designed to use org for
 basic document structuring and only allows for a limited set of mappings
 between org's structure and latex structure.  But you'll see in the latex
 configuration documentation that it is possible to define what kind of
 \section{}, \chapter{}, or \subsubparagraph{} is exported for each level of
 org's headlines.

 One imagines it would be possible to define alternate use cases for a
 class, for example the article class.  I can see it is possible to define
 the article class to use

   \\section{%s}   for the first headline level
 and
  \\paragraph{%s} for second levels

 This would be useful to me.   However, the ordinary article structure with
 subsection, subsubsection, etc., is good enough for much of what I do.   I
 can imagine copying the article class file into my org directory, and
 renaming it to article2.cls, and adding it to org-export-latex-classes, with
 the section - paragraph structure.

 Is there an easier or canonical way to do this?

 Thank you for your interest and help.

 Alan








 On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.comwrote:

 Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sometimes, I have used outliners, like ThinkTank, to organize my
  thoughts, and reorganize the structure of a document of whatever kind.

  I don't need headings or sectioning in some cases.
 
  I have not found a way to exclude heading lines from
  LaTeX output in Orgmode, nor have I found a
  tag to say, omit this headline.  I do see the variables
  org-export-exclude-tags, and org-export-select tags; as well as an
  option to include a specific number of headings as LaTeX sections.  In
  the later case, other  headings are exported as plain list items, not
  what I have in mind.
 
  A related issue perhaps: what would it take to export, say list items,
  as paragraph and subparagraph sections in LaTeX.
 
  The ability to export a pdf almost automatically through LaTeX, even
  with images, is magical.  Many thanks for this.
 

 Some examples might help. I may be particularly dense tonight but I have
 read your mail a few times and I still have no idea what you are asking
 (or rather I have multiple ideas, none of which make much sense to me.)

 Thanks,
 Nick



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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Thomas S. Dye

Aloha Alan,

IMHO, yes, this makes good sense.  It is probably a good idea to name  
the org-export-latex-class something associated with the output you  
want from org-mode, rather than with the LaTeX class that is used to  
typeset it.


All the best,
Tom

On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote:


Perhaps I can get this done, but I have one important question.

When I define a new class in org-export-latex-classes, does it  
make sense to add a new class that calls the same / 
documentclass{article} class?  I could name this class article2, and  
define the section structure as I will.


Hope this is not a silly question.  MY head feels dense today,

Alan

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com  
wrote:

Scot:

I see what you mean

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Scot Becker scot.bec...@gmail.com  
wrote:


As you'll see org-mode's latex export is currently designed to use  
org for basic document structuring and only allows for a limited set  
of mappings between org's structure and latex structure.  But you'll  
see in the latex configuration documentation that it is possible to  
define what kind of \section{}, \chapter{}, or \subsubparagraph{} is  
exported for each level of org's headlines.


One imagines it would be possible to define alternate use cases for  
a class, for example the article class.  I can see it is possible  
to define the article class to use


  \\section{%s}   for the first headline level
and
 \\paragraph{%s} for second levels

This would be useful to me.   However, the ordinary article  
structure with subsection, subsubsection, etc., is good enough for  
much of what I do.   I can imagine copying the article class file  
into my org directory, and renaming it to article2.cls, and adding  
it to org-export-latex-classes, with the section - paragraph  
structure.


Is there an easier or canonical way to do this?

Thank you for your interest and help.

Alan







On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com  
wrote:

Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sometimes, I have used outliners, like ThinkTank, to organize my
 thoughts, and reorganize the structure of a document of whatever  
kind.

 I don't need headings or sectioning in some cases.

 I have not found a way to exclude heading lines from
 LaTeX output in Orgmode, nor have I found a
 tag to say, omit this headline.  I do see the variables
 org-export-exclude-tags, and org-export-select tags; as well as an
 option to include a specific number of headings as LaTeX  
sections.  In
 the later case, other  headings are exported as plain list items,  
not

 what I have in mind.

 A related issue perhaps: what would it take to export, say list  
items,

 as paragraph and subparagraph sections in LaTeX.

 The ability to export a pdf almost automatically through LaTeX, even
 with images, is magical.  Many thanks for this.


Some examples might help. I may be particularly dense tonight but I  
have
read your mail a few times and I still have no idea what you are  
asking
(or rather I have multiple ideas, none of which make much sense to  
me.)


Thanks,
Nick



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Re: [Orgmode] LaTeX export: Skip headline lines? Paragraph sectioning?

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Alan E. Davis lngn...@gmail.com wrote:


 Perhaps I can get this done, but I have one important question.
 
 When I define a new class in org-export-latex-classes, does it make sense
 to add a new class that calls the same /documentclass{article} class?  I
 could name this class article2, and define the section structure as I will.
 

Yes.

 Hope this is not a silly question.
 

Nope.

Nick


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[Orgmode] Re: Org file rendering/manipulation too slow

2010-08-30 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Yeah, thanks. It is really a shame that emacs will run orgmode this
slow on OSX. OSX is now my platform of choice, and emacs my editor of
choice. I keep a big reference org file with tons of tons of notes,
but, even with the settings you suggested (thanks for that!) it is
still very slow. I'm considering switching my notes to evernote,
although I would really like to just stay with emacs+orgmode, but it's
just too slow as of now :(

Marcelo.

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 It worked for me too: it is much better now. Thanks very much for the
 tip! ---Manuel

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Re: [Orgmode] HTML Export Problem

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Scott Randby sran...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whenever I export to HTML, I get the following:
 
 HTML generated by org-mode TAG=7.01g in emacs 23
 
 I would like to get rid of the TAG= (which wasn't present in earlier
 org-mode versions) without having to edit the HTML.
 How do I do this?
 

This was fixed on Aug. 7, so you need to get a more recent version (I
think 7.01h had it fixed.)

See http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/27988

Nick

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org file rendering/manipulation too slow

2010-08-30 Thread Nick Dokos
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yeah, thanks. It is really a shame that emacs will run orgmode this
 slow on OSX. OSX is now my platform of choice, and emacs my editor of
 choice. I keep a big reference org file with tons of tons of notes,
 but, even with the settings you suggested (thanks for that!) it is
 still very slow. I'm considering switching my notes to evernote,
 although I would really like to just stay with emacs+orgmode, but it's
 just too slow as of now :(
 

Please take a profile: Just do

   M-x elp-instrument-package RET org RET

then run the slow command, then M-x elp-results and post the output to
the list. It might not be enough to solve your problem but it would at
least provide *some* information.

Thanks,
Nick

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[Orgmode] [BUG] org-read-date produces imaginary date

2010-08-30 Thread Paul Sexton
Today (31 August), 
if I evaluate (org-read-date t), then at the prompt type
+3
The string returned is:
2010-08-34

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[Orgmode] [BUG] some nasty bugs with PROPERTIES drawers

2010-08-30 Thread Paul Sexton
There seems to be a fairly nasty bug caused by :PROPERTIES: drawers still 
being recognised by org when they appear inside BEGIN_EXAMPLE or 
BEGIN_SRC blocks. I encountered this behaviour while writing docs for 
org-drill. The doc file, README.org, contains quoted examples of org
items, and also of an emacs lisp capture template containing the string
:PROPERTIES:.

The first thing I noticed was that PROPERTIES drawers inside EXAMPLE/SRC 
blocks appear *folded* when the file is opened in org mode, and 
'org-cycle' toggles their folded status, as if they belonged to a 
real org heading.

That is cosmetic, but I also encountered a more serious problem. 
README.org contains the following block of example elisp code, which 
is meant to illustrate an example setup of org-capture:

#+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
(setq org-capture-templates
   `((u
 Task: Read this URL
 entry
 (file+headline tasks.org Articles To Read)
 ,(concat * TODO Read article: '%:description'\nURL: %c\n\n)
 :empty-lines 1
 :immediate-finish t)

(w
 Capture web snippet
 entry
 (file+headline my-facts.org Inbox)
 ,(concat * Fact: '%:description':
  (format %s org-drill-question-tag)
  :\n:PROPERTIES:\n:DATE_ADDED: %u\n:SOURCE_URL:
%c\n:END:\n\n%i\n%?\n)
 :empty-lines 1
 :immediate-finish t)
;; ...other capture templates...
))
#+END_EXAMPLE

Basically, every time I tried to export this file to HTML, Emacs would 
become unresponsive (C-g did nothing) and would have to be killed with 
the task manager (or xkill in Linux -- I tried on 2 systems).

After about 20 crashes and restarts of Emacs, I finally identified the 
problem (I think). when I changed the above block from BEGIN_SRC to
BEGIN_EXAMPLE, the file exported correctly.

I think org was seeing the :PROPERTIES string within the elisp code 
and trying to interpret it as the beginning of a drawer, with disastrous
results.

Once I managed to fix the problem for myself I did not investigate it 
further. However I hope someone can fix it as it certainly caused a 
stressful afternoon.

Paul 

PS: I also realised that I was confused regarding how to get a syntax-
highlighted block of example source code into an org document, as 
BEGIN_SRC appears to execute the code by default, which was not what 
I wanted. Should BEGIN_EXAMPLE take an argument which specifies syntax 
highlighting (eg BEGIN_EXAMPLE emacs-lisp)?





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