[O] bug#18870: bug#18870: \emsp and alignment in org clock report
On 04-Dec-2017, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Any 9.X version certainly contains the fix. Using this version of ‘org-mode’: Org mode version 9.1.2 (9.1.2-dist @ /usr/share/emacs/25.2/site-lisp/elpa/org-9.0.9/) I confirm that the display of the report is much better: | Headline| Time | | | |-++--+--| | *Total time*| *0:20* | | | |-++--+--| | Lorem ipsum, dolor sit amet | 0:20 | | | | \_ Suscipit sint quod || 0:13 | | | \_ Ab facilis nulla|| 0:07 | | | \_Dolore laborum|| | 0:07 | Thank you to the Org developers for resolving this bug. -- \ “A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. | `\Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in | _o__) principle is always a vice.” —Thomas Paine | Ben Finney <b...@benfinney.id.au> signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[O] bug#18870: bug#18870: \emsp and alignment in org clock report
On 04-Dec-2017, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Ben Finney <ben+em...@benfinney.id.au> writes: > > How can we test the change, to know whether this bug is resolved? > > You can test the latest ELPA release, scheduled for today Please state the exact version string, so that we can compare to see whether we're using one that meets your description. -- \ “We must find our way to a time when faith, without evidence, | `\disgraces anyone who would claim it.” —Sam Harris, _The End of | _o__) Faith_, 2004 | Ben Finney <b...@benfinney.id.au> signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[O] bug#18870: bug#18870: \emsp and alignment in org clock report
On 22-Aug-2016, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > The display for clock reports has been changed some months ago in > development version. Which version contains this change? > I think this bug can be closed. How can we test the change, to know whether this bug is resolved? -- \ “Instead of having ‘answers’ on a math test, they should just | `\ call them ‘impressions’, and if you got a different | _o__) ‘impression’, so what, can't we all be brothers?” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney <b...@benfinney.id.au> signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[O] bug#18870: \emsp and alignment in org clock report
On 17-Mar-2015, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Also, the bug is about table alignment when `org-pretty-entities' is used. Okay. So if I'm reporting a regression in the text (non-GUI) Emacs behaviour of Org mode, I should make a separate report? So the U+2003 EM SPACE character should be translated *during export*, and not be literally in the displayed text. No, because it means this character should be treated specially by Org (e.g., LaTeX just ignores it so it needs to be turned into a space there). That conflicts with what you're saying later: But not for display, which is the bug to be fixed here. Actually, it works more or less correctly for display on GUI with a non-nil `org-pretty-entities', or calling `org-toggle-pretty-entities'. So the behaviour is masked by special behaviour of “entities”. Why is that special behaviour acceptable, but allowing export of U+2003 is not? On 22-Mar-2015, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: This should now be fixed. The markup used is more readable and doesn't alter table alignment. Is that true for text-only terminals too? -- \ “See, in my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over | `\ and over and over again, for the truth to sink in; to kinda | _o__) catapult the propaganda.” —George W. Bush, 2005-05 | Ben Finney b...@benfinney.id.au signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[O] bug#18870: \emsp and alignment in org clock report
On 17-Mar-2015, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: Hello, Ben Finney b...@benfinney.id.au writes: The \emsp should be space characters (of some kind; either U+0020 SPC or U+2003 EM SPACE) with correct alignment for the character width. Displaying literal \emsp is a regression and should not happen. This is not a regression. This change favors a correct export over a correct display. The behaviour described – displaying “\emsp” instead of space characters – is a regression. That's what is being reported in this bug. Having some space character is not desirable as it would just move the problem the other way around (i.e., indentation would not appear during export) So the U+2003 EM SPACE character should be translated *during export*, and not be literally in the displayed text. In a nutshell, the current situation is not perfect, but we have yet to find a proper character to preserve both indentation during export and readability. IS the above suggestion an acceptable solution? Note that this is not LaTeX-specific markup. This is called an entity, and is correctly exported in various back-ends. But not for display, which is the bug to be fixed here. Thanks for working on Org mode. -- \ “The future always arrives too fast, and in the wrong order.” | `\—Alvin Toffler | _o__) | Ben Finney b...@benfinney.id.au signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[O] bug#18870: \emsp and alignment in org clock report
I confirm this behaviour. With a plain text terminal, a clock report shows like: |---+--++--+--| | willow-it.org | *File time* | *5:25* | | | | | Willow IT| 5:25 | | | | | \emsp Administration || 3:44 | | | | \emsp\emsp Induction || | 3:44 | | | \emsp Training development || 1:41 | | | | \emsp\emsp Odoo research || | 1:41 | |---+--++--+--| The \emsp should be space characters (of some kind; either U+0020 SPC or U+2003 EM SPACE) with correct alignment for the character width. Displaying literal \emsp is a regression and should not happen. If having a U+2003 EM SPACE character is desirable, then instead of LaTeX-specific markup (which is useless in the text buffer), that character should appear directly in the data so it is useful for display. Thanks for working on Org Mode. -- Ben Finney
Re: [O] GFDL
On 27-May-2013, Bastien wrote: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: Do you have a reference from some FSF official for that restriction? See this discussion: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-12/msg00375.html Thanks very much for that information. I had not realised how obstructionist RMS has become on this issue, blocking attempts event to dual-license a document under at least one free license (the FDL is not a free license by the FSF's own definition), and insisting that Debian change its social contract to allow non-free works. Given that entrenched position, the only hope for new freely-licensed FSF documentation now seems to be for RMS's authority to be over-ruled on this from within FSF, which could take some time. It's good to have this to refer back to, so I'm grateful for this discussion. -- \ “Software patents provide one more means of controlling access | `\ to information. They are the tool of choice for the internet | _o__) highwayman.” —Anthony Taylor | Ben Finney b...@benfinney.id.au signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [O] GFDL
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes: Sebastien Vauban sva-n...@mygooglest.com writes: FMI, why is GNU GPL not applicable to the manual? Because the manual is part of GNU Emacs, which is part of the GNU project, and every project in the GNU project is required to publish manuals in GNU FDL only. Dual licensing is not an option here. Wow, I didn't realise the FSF policy was *that* restrictive. Publishing the manual under both FDL and GPL should satisfy the FSF's legitimate requirements for their work, so I don't know how they justify refusing a manual that happens to also be published under some non-FDL license. Do you have a reference from some FSF official for that restriction? There are many discussions about this... a can of (dead) worms. Agreed, thank you. -- \“Every sentence I utter must be understood not as an | `\ affirmation, but as a question.” —Niels Bohr | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] GFDL
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: I have asked RMS about this, and he says that the [GNU FDL] license should be present in printed versions of the document. I find it very hard to believe that this must be the case. That matches my understanding. It may be hard to believe that such an obnoxious intent was deliberate, but I think it is in our interests to believe it true. It bothers me mostly for the guide, where I did spend a lot of time to make it compact, and now something like one fifth of it is license text. We may actually consider to re-release the guide under a different license. Please use this as an opportunity to seriously consider relicensing the entire work (programs, documentation, etc.) of Org-mode under the same license: the GNU GPL. It does not have the special problems of the FDL, and having the whole work under the same license terms makes it simpler and clearer. Will try to find a solution here. Wishing you fortune in coming to a good solution. -- \“The problem with television is that the people must sit and | `\keep their eyes glued on a screen: the average American family | _o__) hasn't time for it.” —_The New York Times_, 1939 | Ben Finney
Re: [O] org-mobile-push error produces wrong-type-argument error
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: Hi Ben, Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: I am getting the same error. I'm using the Org mode that comes with Emacs (“GNU Emacs 23.4.1”). You should not get this error anymore from maint. Thank you. I'm not in a position to use the maint version, so I will need to wait for a release fixing this. Which change fixed this problem? How will I know when an org-mode that includes this fix is released? -- \ “The best way to get information on Usenet is not to ask a | `\ question, but to post the wrong information.” —Aahz | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Trimming quotes
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au wrote: t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: Can you point me to trimming guidelines for digest readers? In brief: Don't respond at all to a digest message. Instead, […] Tom did not respond to a digest message. Indeed; I didn't intend to imply otherwise. I was responding to Tom's request for guidelines on how to trim quotes in a reply when one is receiving the list digest. -- \ “[I]t is impossible for anyone to begin to learn that which he | `\thinks he already knows.” —Epictetus, _Discourses_ | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Trimming quotes
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: Can you point me to trimming guidelines for digest readers? In brief: Don't respond at all to a digest message. Instead, respond to the actual message you want to respond to; that way, your response will include correct fields in the header to preserve the thread of discussion. So, treat the digest message as a one-way channel. If you think you might ever respond, turn off digest mode and respond to individual messages. -- \ “A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order | `\ will lose both, and deserve neither.” —Thomas Jefferson, in a | _o__)letter to Madison | Ben Finney
Re: [O] org-mobile-push error produces wrong-type-argument error
Conor Nash nas...@tcd.ie writes: When I try to run org-mobile-push I get an error in the minibuffer: Wrong type argument: listp, todo. I am getting the same error. I'm using the Org mode that comes with Emacs (“GNU Emacs 23.4.1”). The backtrace from the error is: = Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument listp TODO) org-mobile-create-index-file() byte-code(\301 \210\302 \210\303\304!\210\305\306!\210\307\310 \210)\305\311!\210\312 \210\305\313!\210\314 \210\305\315!\210\316 \210\305\317!\210\320 \210\303\321!\207 [inhibit-redisplay org-mobile-check-setup org-mobile-prepare-file-lists run-hooks org-mobile-pre-push-hook message Creating agendas... t org-mobile-create-sumo-agenda Creating agendas...done org-save-all-org-buffers Copying files... org-mobile-copy-agenda-files Writing index file... org-mobile-create-index-file Writing checksums... org-mobile-write-checksums org-mobile-post-push-hook] 2) org-mobile-push() call-interactively(org-mobile-push t nil) execute-extended-command(nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil) = What setting can I change to fix this? I would prefer to continue using the same Emacs and Org mode as I'm not the only one using these programs on the machine. -- \ “When we talk to God, we're praying. When God talks to us, | `\ we're schizophrenic.” —Jane Wagner, via Lily Tomlin, 1985 | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Adding Timestamps
Chris Niven cjni...@gmail.com writes: Is there any way to sum timestamps in org-mode? What would that mean? What is the result of the sum of: 2011-09-12 08:45 2011-09-12 16:23 2011-09-14 03:02 ? -- \“I took a course in speed waiting. Now I can wait an hour in | `\ only ten minutes.” —Steven Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] TAB
Ido Magal i...@idomagal.com writes: Fair enough. It never occurred to me that emacs might not support the native literal TAB. Thanks. Emacs does, in its Fundamental mode and many others. But just about every interesting mode will map the TAB key to something else. So the issue is a common one for all Emacs users, not special to Org mode. -- \ “Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood | `\ it.” —Niels Bohr | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] special characters for HTML
William Henney when...@gmail.com writes: Why don't you just write the umlauts directly: ü Either use the facilities of your OS, or use one of the German input methods of Emacs. For the latter, see the docs for C-\. For the former, it all depends on your OS and your keyboard. Exactly. We're in the third millennium of the calendar, folks; we have Unicode. The way to get a character into a text document is to put it in literally. -- \“It is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no | `\ ground whatever for supposing it true.” —Bertrand Russell, _The | _o__) Value of Scepticism_, 1928 | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Bug: No property change from ‘org-clock-sum’
Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes: I don't think the org-clock-sum function does what you think/want it to do. The docstring says it sets text properties on the headline - so I don't think it is intended to update a CLOCKSUM property in the headings. I don't underastand the distinction. Isn't the CLOCKSUM property a text property? What do I need to know here? These text properties are temporary (ie. not saved in the org file) and I think these are used by the column view overlays for display-only. The org-invoice.el contributed file created by Peter Jones uses a CLOCKSUM property but I'm not sure if this is intended to be updated manually or automatically from the clocking lines in org. I've CC-ed Peter in case he can shed any light on this. Thanks. It does seem that they're much the same purpose, so I hope they can be unified. -- \ “To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you | `\must also be well-mannered.” —Voltaire | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Bug: No property change from ‘org-clock-sum’
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: However, I seen now that there is a bug here, cause by a rewrite (for speed) of property access some time ago. After that rewrite, the special CLOCKSUM property used by org-invoice.el was no longer accessible. Thanks! I am glad to finally have attracted enough attention to this bug :-) Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: This problem has just been fixed, so with the current git master, org-invoice.el should work again. Ah! Thanks Carsten. It does indeed return values after this fix. Great. I look forward to a new release making its way into Debian. Thanks again for the diagnosis and bug fix, guys. -- \ “Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?” “I think so, | `\Brain, but if we give peas a chance, won't the lima beans feel | _o__)left out?” —_Pinky and The Brain_ | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Bug: No property change from ‘org-clock-sum’
Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: When I use ‘org-clock-sum’ in Org-mode version 7.4, nothing appears to happen: the items in the subtree are not updated and no ‘CLOCKSUM’ property appears. Org-mode version 7.4 GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.20.1) of 2010-12-12 on porpora, modified by Debian This is still the case after an upgrade: Org-mode version 7.5 GNU Emacs 23.3.1 (powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.4) of 2011-04-11 on praetorius, modified by Debian Why wouldn't the ‘org-clock-sum’ function do what its doc string says? How should I be updating the ‘CLOCKSUM’ property? Can anyone shed light on this? I'd like to use the function as specified. -- \ “To have the choice between proprietary software packages, is | `\ being able to choose your master. Freedom means not having a | _o__)master.” —Richard M. Stallman, 2007-05-16 | Ben Finney
Re: [O] [semi-OT] issue trackers?
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: I'm collaborating on a project where I'm starting to feel the need for a shared issue tracker. Anyone have any suggestions? Roundup URL:http://www.roundup-tracker.org/ is a self-contained issue tracker that communicates via web and email interfaces, and is quite extensively customisable. I'd love something that integrates with org-mode somehow, but my collaborators are definitively NOT emacs users. I don't know of any issue trackers that integrate with Org mode in any way. You could start with having Emacs send automatically-composed email messages to Roundup in response to your actions in Org mode, and perhaps later look at more customised integration. -- \ “Buy not what you want, but what you need; what you do not need | `\ is expensive at a penny.” —Cato, 234–149 BCE, Relique | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Dumbquotes in exported source listings
Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au wrote: TeX and some other legacy systems don't work very well with Unicode. AFAIK, TeX works fine with UTF8, given the defaults that org-mode export uses. To be clear, I don't have any issue with Org and Unicode (I've never exported an Org file to TeX). I was mainly addressing the terminology for the style of quotes described by the OP. -- \ “Too many Indians spoil the golden egg.” —Sir Joh | `\ Bjelke-Petersen | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] Dumbquotes in exported source listings
Avdi Grimm gro...@inbox.avdi.org writes: One issue: my beta reviewers have noted that when copy-and-pasting source code listings that contain single-quoted strings, they are getting smart quotes--i.e. the first quote is a backquote, the second quote is a single quote. This breaks the pasted code. Those aren't even “smart quotes” (the term usually applied to the quote characters from Microsoft's standards-violating character set). Those are what might be called “TeX quotes” (though the convention pre-dates even TeX), since TeX uses ‘`’ for an opening single quote and ‘``’ for an opening double quote. Nowadays with Unicode available ubiquitously we can simply use the correct typographical quotation marks directly in the plain text file, but TeX and some other legacy systems don't work very well with Unicode. -- \ “Often, the surest way to convey misinformation is to tell the | `\ strict truth.” —Mark Twain, _Following the Equator_ | _o__) | Ben Finney
Re: [O] emdash and endash
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: To ensure consistency of export, I have gotten in the habit of using three hyphens for the emdash in ASCII---even in mail. I just write the characters – choosing the right one for my purpose – in Unicode. It's already the third millennium of our calendar — we can expect Unicode support, and harangue those who haven't joined us in the international village yet. -- \ “Teach a man to make fire, and he will be warm for a day. Set a | `\ man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.” | _o__) —John A. Hrastar | Ben Finney
Re: [O] emdash and endash
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes: 1 dash: - 2 -- 3 --- 1 dash: - 2 – 3 — When I write in ASCII, I notate emdash like --. I think this is standard. I think not. I see many (non-Org) ASCII documents that distinguish a notional em dash from en dash by different number of hyphens, as in your first list. I never use --- in ASCII. Is there a way to make -- export as emdash in order to be consistent with ASCII? “Consistent with ASCII”? ASCII has neither en dash nor em dash, so it's not ASCII that you're wanting to be consistent with. You're referring to conventions that attempt to preserve Unicode characters in ASCII. -- \ “… whoever claims any right that he is unwilling to accord to | `\ his fellow-men is dishonest and infamous.” —Robert G. | _o__) Ingersoll, _The Liberty of Man, Woman and Child_, 1877 | Ben Finney
[O] No property change from ‘org-clock-sum’
Howdy all, When I use ‘org-clock-sum’ in Org-mode version 7.4, nothing appears to happen: the items in the subtree are not updated and no ‘CLOCKSUM’ property appears. I'm trying to generate an invoice report using ‘org-invoice.el’. The items on which I want to report have clock entries, generated correctly with ‘org-clock-in’ and ‘org-clock-out’. An example: = * foo ** bar *** [2011-03-24 Thu] CLOCK: [2011-03-24 Thu 14:15]--[2011-03-24 Thu 18:03] = 3:48 CLOCK: [2011-03-24 Thu 09:10]--[2011-03-24 Thu 12:27] = 3:17 *** [2011-03-23 Wed] CLOCK: [2011-03-23 Wed 14:10]--[2011-03-23 Wed 18:16] = 4:06 CLOCK: [2011-03-23 Wed 09:30]--[2011-03-23 Wed 13:10] = 3:40 *** [2011-03-22 Tue] CLOCK: [2011-03-22 Tue 14:00]--[2011-03-22 Tue 17:30] = 3:30 CLOCK: [2011-03-22 Tue 08:58]--[2011-03-22 Tue 13:31] = 4:33 = According to the doc string for ‘org-invoice-report’, the ‘CLOCKSUM’ property on each item in the subtree will be used for the report. So apparently I need to ‘org-clock-sum’ on the tree before updating the report, in order to automatically generate the ‘CLOCKSUM’ property. But that function doesn't change anything. Why wouldn't the ‘org-clock-sum’ function do what its doc string says? How should I be updating the ‘CLOCKSUM’ property? -- \ “Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?” “I think so, | `\ Brain, but why does a forklift have to be so big if all it does | _o__) is lift forks?” —_Pinky and The Brain_ | Ben Finney
[Orgmode] Re: A request: Moving away from ChangeLog
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On May 21, 2010, at 11:41 AM, John Wiegley wrote: This makes it trivial to build ChangeLog entries for a range of commits, suitable for submission to Emacs. It may need a bit more work to be production-ready, but it can already produce a ChangeLog for all of org-mode. […] If this works, lets stop writing ChangeLog. This is a great improvement. It seems worth pointing out explicitly, though: Eliminating a manually-maintained ChangeLog doesn't obviate the need for a ChangeLog (or the equivalent) in the distributed source. This is because the copyright holders license their works under the GPLv2, and §2.a of those terms requires the work to include dated notice of all modifications made to the work. This is conventionally understood to be most directly satisfied by a ChangeLog in the distributed source for the work. Generating that file automatically from the VCS commit messages, at the time a source release is packaged, is a good use of the VCS. This will make most merges working without hickups, finally. And it will make us, hopefully, write better commit messages. Indeed. Having one canonical location for a piece of information, with every other instance of it derived from that location, can help reduce the burden of recording that information. -- \ “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death | `\ your right to say it.” —Evelyn Beatrice Hall, _The Friends of | _o__) Voltaire_, 1906 | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Gmane readers - please subscribe
Tyler Smith tyler.sm...@eku.edu writes: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: A large part of my reason for reading via Gmane is to avoid yet another set of authentication credentials. Especially one that I never use; that's a security nightmare waiting to happen. So I'm not interested in increasing my security exposure by making a Mailman account on yet another site. Yikes! What nightmare awaits those of us who've foolishly gone ahead and subscribed? What's my exposure, beyond some nefarious cracker impersonating me on emacs-orgmode? The assumption here is that logging into the mailing list account is something done infrequently to never for any given user. That's certainly the case for just about any list I've subscribed to. For an infrequently-to-never used passphrase, one of two things is the case: either it's unique, or it is identical to the passphrase that accesses some other set of services for the user. Since it's an infrequently-to-never accessed service, it's an unreasonable burden to expect the user to maintain unique passphrases for every such service. If for this list, why not for every such list? So what usually ends up happening is they're identical for a given person across many different services. But the more that's the case, the greater the exposure: any one of those services could manage their security poorly, or simply be unlucky enough to attract a bored and/or motivated cracker; and a compromise on any one of them removes any expectation of security on any of the rest of the services where the user has the same passphrase. The sensible policy, therefore, is to cull the proliferation of such passphrase-requiring infrequently-to-never-accessed accounts. Which, in turn, means saying a polite “no thank you” to most requests to set up new accounts. -- \“The greatest tragedy in mankind's entire history may be the | `\ hijacking of morality by religion.” —Arthur C. Clarke, 1991 | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Gmane readers - please subscribe
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: Since it's an infrequently-to-never accessed service, it's an unreasonable burden to expect the user to maintain unique passphrases for every such service. If for this list, why not for every such list? It's easy to maintain unique passphrases, and to create them. Having done so for many accounts and using many different systems for doing so, I can assure you that it's easier and more reliable to just avoid creating such accounts where possible. -- \“I don't accept the currently fashionable assertion that any | `\ view is automatically as worthy of respect as any equal and | _o__) opposite view.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Gmane readers - please subscribe
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes: OK - there _must_ be a missunderstanding... Quite probably. But I don't wish to make further noise about a topic most here likely don't care much about, so I will try to make this my last message in this thread unless new information comes to light. We all post via reply all to support unsubscribed users. They (you?) couldn't discuss in realtime otherwise. In fact, many people in this thread have *not* done that, and I've read every message sent to the forum just fine. Gmane allows an NNTP interface to the forum; that's pretty much the point for me. If you are sending an extra copy to me specifically, please don't; it doesn't help. As for the many suggestions to set up authentication tokens that lie dormant: I have explained my position on proliferation of authentication tokens, and some people have understood. That's good enough for now. Let's get back to Org-mode discussions :-) -- \ “Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I | `\guess is why several of us died of tuberculosis.” —Jack Handey | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Gmane readers - please subscribe
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: If you are reading emacs-orgmode.org through gmane, please read this new FAQ to help take load off the maintainers. http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#ml-subscription-and-gmane A large part of my reason for reading via Gmane is to avoid yet another set of authentication credentials. Especially one that I never use; that's a security nightmare waiting to happen. So I'm not interested in increasing my security exposure by making a Mailman account on yet another site. While I appreciate that administrators would prefer that Gmane readers subscribe, I think their chosen mailing list administration system is not helping their cause. (No, I don't have a better one to suggest.) -- \ “As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we | `\ should be glad to serve others by any invention of ours; and | _o__) this we should do freely and generously.” —Benjamin Franklin | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: possible bug: TAB after elipsis
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Anthony Lander wrote: If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this: Some entry...| pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything useful at all. Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am I missing something? Cursor after the dots means the cursor is no longer in the headline, in fact it is no longer in the entry at all. But neither is it in the following entry, surely? I agree with the original reporter that this goes against expectations. Pressing TAB *anywhere* on the same line of a collapsed item should expand it as normal, no? Can this be fixed? -- \ “Working out the social politics of who you can trust and why | `\ is, quite literally, what a very large part of our brain has | _o__) evolved to do.” —Douglas Adams | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Wiki?
Andrea Crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com writes: Today I had to modify some wiki pages for a project and I realized how it sucked.. Stupid editor, […] This much, at least, can be fixed by the “It's All Text” add-on for Firefox URL:https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4125. -- \ “I guess we were all guilty, in a way. We all shot him, we all | `\ skinned him, and we all got a complimentary bumper sticker that | _o__) said, ‘I helped skin Bob.’” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Which Emacs on Ubuntu
Graham Smith myotis...@gmail.com writes: As I primarily use Emacs to run Orgmode and I find the list of Emacs options rather confusing, can anyone here suggest which is the best option to install. The purpose of the ‘emacs’ meta-package is to allow you to defer this to the Ubuntu package managers. That is, by installing ‘emacs’ you will get the “best” version of Emacs, updated as appropriate. -- \ “We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't | `\scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what | _o__) annoys me.” —Jack Handey | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Which Emacs on Ubuntu
Graham Smith myotis...@gmail.com writes: Thanks, I was tempted to go for 23, but wasn't sure. Right. So, people who installed ‘emacs’ several years ago would have Emacs 22, and then later, without changing their selection, the same people got Emacs 23 when the Ubuntu package maintainers decided it was ready. If that appeals to you, just install the ‘emacs’ package. -- \ “If you are unable to leave your room, expose yourself in the | `\window.” —instructions in case of fire, hotel, Finland | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: How to combine the analogue (Moleskine) world with digital (org-mode) world ?
Torsten Wagner torsten.wag...@gmail.com writes: I have a similar experience to you. I run org-mode on my office computer and home computer and synchronise the files via USB drive and Python backup script. If you have access to a sever... try to use git. Any distributed version control system (DVCS) will do the job here, so I'd recommend to choose one that is easy to learn and use. For that purpose I'd recommend Bazaar URL:http://bazaar-vcs.org/. The Emacs ‘vc’ mode works correctly with Bazaar repositories (as well as others, I believe). Of course, if you're *already* familiar and happy with a DVCS, use that. My other idea capture and note taking tool are 3 x 5 inch system cards. I cut up scrap paper into this size and keep several handy in my shirt pocket and a pencil. I can jot down notes any time and transfer what is important when I am back at the computer. I tried this but always messed up with lost cards, messed up cards, etc. Thus I was looking for a more stable version. I keep my 3×5in cards in a specialied wallet, which I found advertised for the purpose of holding a portable hard drive and a screwdriver (presumably for computer professionals to carry a diagnostic and repair kit). The dimensions were perfect for a stack of cards and a comfortable pen, so I bought it on that basis and have been very happy with it for several years of constant use. -- \ “Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the | `\ occurrence of the improbable.” —Henry L. Mencken | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Repeating dates on named weekdays
Glauber Alex Dias Prado sma...@gmail.com writes: William Halliburton whallibur...@gmail.com writes: How can one enter in repeating dates such as every third thursday of each month http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/org/Repeating-items.html#Repeating-items http://orgmode.org/manual/Repeated-tasks.html#Repeated-tasks That doesn't help. Neither of those pages say anything about this common use case. I do wish the Org manual, at least, would give an example of what the OP is asking for: repeating events on “every month on the Nth D-weekday at T time”, and how to translate the N, D, and T into some Org date+time format that will give that result. I'd provide a suggested addition to the manual, but I still don't understand the baroque sexp date format myself. -- \“Good morning, Pooh Bear”, said Eeyore gloomily. “If it is a | `\ good morning”, he said. “Which I doubt”, said he. —A. A. Milne, | _o__)_Winnie-the-Pooh_ | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Date calculations
Memnon Anon gegendosenflei...@googlemail.com writes: ,[ (info (org)Weekly/daily agenda) ] | * Birthdays and similar stuff | #+CATEGORY: Holiday | %%(org-calendar-holiday) ; special function for holiday names | #+CATEGORY: Ann | %%(diary-anniversary 14 5 1956) Arthur Dent is %d years old | %%(diary-anniversary 2 10 1869) Mahatma Gandhi would be %d years old ` These examples suggest D-M-Y, which only seems to work with the calendar set to european style. Maybe, it would be better to change the example to M-D-Y (I think it is more common?) and add a footnote that provides the info that the date format is depending on calendar-date-style? It might be even better to use calendar style ‘iso’ in that documentation, to be consistent with default Org usage. So, if I understand it correctly, org-bbdb settled on iso format, diary-anniversary uses either american or european style depending on calendar-date-style. Thats somehow inconsistent, isn't it? Yes, that inconsistency in the Diary behaviour has been noted. -- \ “My business is to teach my aspirations to conform themselves | `\ to fact, not to try and make facts harmonise with my | _o__) aspirations.“ —Thomas Henry Huxley, 1860-09-23 | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: small addition to The Org Manual
V Spagnolo v.spagn...@pobox.com writes: A key that explicitly states what is meant by C-, S- and M-, would be helpful. I disagree: I don't think the Org mode manual should be teaching the reader how to use Emacs, since that would only duplicate what's already in Emacs. Perhaps it could direct the reader to the Emacs tutorial? -- \ “About four years ago, I was — no, it was yesterday.” —Steven | `\Wright | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Org needs your vote
Norbert Zeh n...@cs.dal.ca writes: IMO, the low rating of org-mode on this list shows that most people prefer flashy GUIs over extreme power, efficiency, and flexibility. I disagree; I don't think people prefer “flashy GUIs” as you say. That may play a part, but I believe it's only a small part in comparison to a much larger issue: Rather, people (in general, and beyond adolescence) prefer to avoid any option presented which might involve the effort of learning something new. That is, if presented with a choice between using Word (which they've already gone through the pain of learning), or learning a whole new program, most adults will assume that the easiest option is to stick with Word, or whatever existing program they've already learned that appears to promise the ability to address their immediate need. There won't be an assessment of “extreme power, efficiency, and flexibility”; they're not looking for any of those, even though an outside observer might realise they can benefit from them. There'll only be an assessment of the perceived effort of “use Word, which I know and in a pinch I can call on my friend for help”, versus the perceived effort of “learn this unknown-to-me program, which nobody in my circle of friends has even heard of”. Note that *actual* required effort isn't what counts: only *perceived* effort can play a part in that decision. Merely being technically better isn't enough to win over anyone who isn't already interested in learning something new. The technically better option must *also* be perceptibly easy to learn to the point of being productive quickly, and must perceptibly have a decent support community. Otherwise, it won't even get a second glance by most people. Then again, that seems to be the general state in today's computing world. When looked at from the above perspective, it's a state we don't have to merely lament. We can *do* something about it; and the great part is we don't have to change anything about Org mode itself to improve the situation. -- \ “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death | `\ your right to say it.” —Evelyn Beatrice Hall, _The Friends of | _o__) Voltaire_, 1906 | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [OT] Emacs for email?
Tassilo Horn tass...@member.fsf.org writes: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: I would dearly love to use Gnus for email too, and am this →← close, but I have an interactive external program generating my message signatures and I can't figure out how to get it working in Emacs quite as easily as it does in Mutt. This should be very easy. Have a look at http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusMnemonics where the fortune program is used as signature program. That misses the fact that, as I said above, I use an *interactive* program for generating my signature block. It's not a matter of generating output unilaterally from the program. I interact with the program on the console (saying yes or no to proposed random signatures), and it then modifies an existing message file in-place. I can't figure out how to get Emacs to work with this program. Anyway, this is now wildly off-topic for an Org discussion forum. -- \ “Holy bouncing boiler-plated fits, Batman!” —Robin | `\ | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: [OT] Emacs for email?
Keith Lancaster klancaster1...@acm.org writes: I apologize for the WAY off topic question, but since you folk are emacs expertsdo you use emacs for email, and if so, what do you use? I use Gnus for NNTP (e.g. for participating in this forum), and am really liking it. I would dearly love to use Gnus for email too, and am this →← close, but I have an interactive external program generating my message signatures and I can't figure out how to get it working in Emacs quite as easily as it does in Mutt. -- \ “… whoever claims any right that he is unwilling to accord to | `\ his fellow-men is dishonest and infamous.” —Robert G. | _o__) Ingersoll, _The Liberty of Man, Woman and Child_, 1877 | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Feature request: Periodic events based on count of specific weekdays
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: extending the date format would be a significant amount of work. The current time/date format is already complex to handle internally, mainly because it was build not with a clean design but step by step. I don't know anything about elisp. But isn't that an indication that it might be time to re-work the design so it's easier to maintain? My feeling is that date specifications like this are seldomly used, I'm surprised at this assertion. Just about every club or social organisation, etc., that I've heard of that meets monthly, does so by meeting “on the second Tuesday of the month” or equivalent monthly specification. It's surely not seldom in my experience. It may be the case that not many *programs* implement this; but has that ever been a reason to avoid mapping a real-world need into Org mode before? :-) and as far as readability is concerned, for these few events you could just (as suggested by Matt) write a note explaining what the entry does. Unfortunately, I can't see how to do that *and* have the rest of the Org mode timestamp specification; I'm wanting to have all the current features of Org timestamp specification plus day-of-week-based periodic events. For example, I can't see how to get an sexp timestamp to simultaneously have a “second Tuesday of the month” period and a time-of-day specification. I also can't see how to get these specifications to display like other Org timestamps in agenda and other generated views. So, while I appreciate that the current timestamp parser design might make implementation difficult, I don't think the current features of either Org timestamp specification or sexp specification will meet this goal. That's why I'm asking for this feature request. I'm happy to discuss different specifications; the latest one I proposed was for discussion, and I'm not wedded to it. Is there a different syntax that would make parsing easier, while still adding the feature I've described? -- \ “I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them | `\to do to their fellows, because it always coincides with their | _o__) own desires.” —Susan Brownell Anthony, 1896 | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-indent-mode and visual-line-mode
Matt Price matt.pr...@utoronto.ca writes: Visual-line-mode is a replacement for longlines-mode; it soft-wraps text at the screen boundary, and does a much better job than longlines-mode did. I think you're confused by a (helpful) conflation. The ‘visual-lines-mode’ is indeed a replacement for ‘longlines-mode’, but its job is to cause editing commands to act on visual, rather than logical lines. The wrapping behaviour you're describing is performed by ‘word-wrap’, a buffer-local variable that cuases lines to be visually broken at word boundaries. The ‘word-wrap’ variable is set by ‘visual-lines-mode’, which is why you're seeing it happen. But ‘word-wrap’ is independent of this. Is that what you needed? I'm not sure where the code for visual-line-mode lives -- there isn't a visual-line.el anywhere that i can find on my system. Fortunately, ‘visual-line-mode’ appears to be a distraction from what you're describing; Carsten only needs to learn about ‘word-wrap’. -- \“The flattening of underwear with pleasure is the job of the | `\ chambermaid.” —hotel, Yugoslavia | _o__) | Ben Finney pgpXB2IJ8KNm8.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Feature request: Periodic events based on count of specific weekdays (was: Monthly events based on count of specific weekdays)
Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: […] “second Tuesday of the month” isn't niche, it is pretty common, I would have thought. […] You'd have to ask Carsten to implement a new timestamp syntax. What would you propose as a more readable designation? How about a keyword that specifies the type of repeat being requested: 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m dow Repeat each month, on the second Tuesday of the month. Calculated because this date is the second Tuesday of the month, and “dow” is the specified repeat type. 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m dom Repeat each month, on the 13th day of the month. Calculated because this date is the 13th of the month, and “dom” is the specified repeat type. 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m Repeat each month, on the 13th day of the month. Calculated because this date is the 13th of the month, and “dom” is the default repeat type. This allows existing behaviour to be continued (“repeat on the same day of the month”), preserves the default behaviour, and allows for other repeat types to be added later without breaking existing timestamp data. -- \“He who laughs last, thinks slowest.” —anonymous | `\ | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-indent-mode and visual-line-mode
Matt Price matt.pr...@utoronto.ca writes: Does anyone else use visual-=line-mode with org? I'm sort of surprised no one would -- it seems a completely obvious choice to me and it may be that I'm just missing something about optimum work flows or similar. I hard-wrap (Emacs “fill” operations) paragraphs in most text files, including my Org files. So I don't have to deal very often with the distinction between visual versus local lines. -- \“Technology is neither good nor bad; nor is it neutral.” | `\ —Melvin Kranzberg's First Law of Technology | _o__) | Ben Finney pgpi5Fz7Iagiy.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Monthly events based on count of specific weekdays
Giovanni Ridolfi giovanni.rido...@yahoo.it writes: --- Dom 8/11/09, Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au ha scritto: How about this: 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m Tue Does the ++1m help? : ** TODO LUG meeting DEADLINE: 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 ++1m Tue No, it doesn't help. When I specify what you show here, I get the item in my agenda on: 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 2009-11-13 Thu 14:00 2009-12-13 Sun 14:00 2010-01-13 Wed 14:00 and so on. Marking this DONE will shift the date by at least one month, but also by as many months as it takes to get this date into the future. However, it stays on a Tuesday, even if you called and marked it done on Saturday. This doesn't seem to affect when the future events appear in the agenda, so doesn't meet what I'm describing. -- \“I spent a lot of money on wine and women, and like a fool I | `\ squandered the rest.” —Benny Hill | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Monthly events based on count of specific weekdays
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: How can I set an event in Org mode that repeats every month, on a specific weekday, on a week counted from the start of the month? […] Taking “first Tuesday of the month”, if I set it this month on 2009-11-15 Sun, it should next repeat on 2009-12-20 Sun and so on each month. From the org manual: ,[8.1. Timestamps, deadlines, and scheduling] | DIARY-STYLE SEXP ENTRIES | For more complex date specifications, Org mode supports using the | special sexp diary entries implemented in the Emacs calendar/diary | package. For example | | * The nerd meeting on every 2nd Thursday of the month | %%(diary-float t 4 2) ` Ah. Where can I find documentation on “the special sexp diary entries implemented in the Emacs calendar/diary package”? Here's how to schedule the examples above: * First Tuesday of month %%(diary-float t 2 1) * Third Sunday of month %%(diary-float t 0 3) * First or third Wednesday of month %%(or (diary-float t 3 1) (diary-float t 3 3)) Hmm. That makes the entry unreadable as a date+time. One of the main advantages of the usual Org date+time specifications is they're perfectly readable even to people who know nothing about Org, Emacs, or Lisp. Is there a way to get a readable format that still behaves as I described? -- \ “I used to think that the brain was the most wonderful organ in | `\ my body. Then I realized who was telling me this.” —Emo Philips | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Monthly events based on count of specific weekdays
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org writes: Ben Finney ben+em...@benfinney.id.au writes: Hmm. [a sexp] makes the entry unreadable as a date+time. One of the main advantages of the usual Org date+time specifications is they're perfectly readable even to people who know nothing about Org, Emacs, or Lisp. Well, yes. But not for every possible niche usage. That's partly my point: “second Tuesday of the month” isn't niche, it is pretty common, I would have thought. Org-mode provides human readable syntax for the majority of scenarios, but allows power users to harness the capabilities of emacs and elisp for the rest. Much appreciated. Is there a way to get a readable format that still behaves as I described? Not that I know of. But since this is org-mode, you could add a note under the diary sexp explaining what it represents. You'd have to ask Carsten to implement a new timestamp syntax. What would you propose as a more readable designation? How about this: 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m Tue Repeat each month, on the second Tuesday of the month. Calculated because this date is the second Tuesday of the month, and the repeat weekday is specified. 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m Repeat each month, on the 13th day of the month. Calculated because this date is the 8th of the month, and the repeat weekday is not specified. 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m Fri Invalid, since this date is not on a Friday. Or, rather than introducing syntax that makes it easy to put invalid syntax: 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m dow Repeat each month, on the second Tuesday of the month. Calculated because this date is the second Tuesday of the month, and “dow” is the specified repeat type. 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m dom Repeat each month, on the 13th day of the month. Calculated because this date is the 8th of the month, and “dom” is the specified repeat type. 2009-10-13 Tue 14:00 +1m Repeat each month, on the 13th day of the month. Calculated because this date is the 8th of the month, and “dom” is the default repeat type. I somewhat prefer this latter syntax, because it uses a brief keyword, allowing for other keywords in the future if a case can be made for other repeat types. -- \“Read not to contradict and confute, nor to believe and take | `\ for granted … but to weigh and consider.” —Francis Bacon | _o__) | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Monthly events based on count of specific weekdays
Howdy all, How can I set an event in Org mode that repeats every month, on a specific weekday, on a week counted from the start of the month? For example: * every month on the first Tuesday of the month. * every month on the third Sunday of the month. * every first and third Wednesday of the month. Taking “first Tuesday of the month”, if I set it this month on 2009-11-15 Sun, it should next repeat on 2009-12-20 Sun and so on each month. These do not do what I want: * 2009-11-15 Sun +1m * 2009-11-08 Sun ++1m * 2009-11-08 Sun .+1m Each of these next repeats on 2009-12-15 Tue, the wrong date. How can I specify a repeating event to Org mode that achieves what I described above? -- \ “Nature is trying very hard to make us succeed, but nature does | `\ not depend on us. We are not the only experiment.” —Richard | _o__) Buckminster Fuller, 1978-04-30 | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: contact management in org-mode?
Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes: Given the discussion about a simple database [for storing contacts], it struck me that I might just use properties and column mode. Dynamic fields and views, hotlinks, VC, text file... Thank you, Russell, for the BBDB rant (which I quite agree with) and for giving your current solution based on Org items with properties. I'm dipping my toes into Org and, for contact data, BBDB seemed the natural way to go; I'm glad I looked around to find alternatives before dumping too much data into BBDB. Everyone's responses in this thread have saved me a *lot* of time and effort. -- \ “Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?” “I think so, | `\ Brain, but if they called them ‘Sad Meals’, kids wouldn't buy | _o__)them!” —_Pinky and The Brain_ | Ben Finney ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
