Re: [O] Patch for fixing a missing autoload for the function org-clock-sum-today
Thank you, Nicolas. I have not signed FSF. But I will do so for any bigger patches that I submit. Regards, Jose On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > Jose Robins <jose.rob...@gmail.com> writes: > > > org-clock.el: Add an autoload entry for the function > org-clock-sum-today > > > > * lisp/org-clock.el: When the org-mode is called for the very first > time > > any functionality that requires the org-clock-sum-today used to fail. > > (e.g. a column that calculates CLOCKSUM_T) > > Applied, thank you. > > I added a TINYCHANGE cookie at the end of the commit message since > I don't if you have signed FSF papers. > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Goaziou >
Re: [O] issue with org-clock modeline total for *today*?
Awesome, thank you so much. I pulled in the new commits and it seems to be working now without the earlier workaround of changing the org-extend-today-until variable. Regards, Jose On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Nicolas Goaziou <m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > Jose Robins <jose.rob...@gmail.com> writes: > > > I'm in the pacific time zone, and I've set the org-clock-mode-line-total > to > > today. The modeline display that shows the current time for today seems > to > > consider 'today' as UTC midnight to UTC midnight and does not respect my > > timezone. I have to set the org-extend-today-until variable to 8 (PST-UTC > > difference) to fix this. I ran emacs with -q and ensured that the git > > commit was pristine before testing this. Is this expected behavior, a bug > > with emacs/org-mode or an incorrect setup? > > It is a bug, which should now be fixed. > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Goaziou >
[O] Patch for fixing a missing autoload for the function org-clock-sum-today
org-clock.el: Add an autoload entry for the function org-clock-sum-today * lisp/org-clock.el: When the org-mode is called for the very first time any functionality that requires the org-clock-sum-today used to fail. (e.g. a column that calculates CLOCKSUM_T) Jose 0001-org-clock.el-Add-an-autoload-entry-for-the-function-.patch Description: Binary data
[O] issue with org-clock modeline total for *today*?
I'm in the pacific time zone, and I've set the org-clock-mode-line-total to today. The modeline display that shows the current time for today seems to consider 'today' as UTC midnight to UTC midnight and does not respect my timezone. I have to set the org-extend-today-until variable to 8 (PST-UTC difference) to fix this. I ran emacs with -q and ensured that the git commit was pristine before testing this. Is this expected behavior, a bug with emacs/org-mode or an incorrect setup? emacs: 25.3.1 org-mode: git master head (e490d27) - post release 9.1.6 Regards, Jose
Re: [Orgmode] Deadlines with Time
There is a customize variable called org deadline warning days - Maybe this setting has something to do with what you are seeing? Jose Florian Beck wrote: Hi, sometimes I want to specify a deadline with a certain time. Without a time, there is no problem. The deadline shows up a couple of times earlier, which is fine. However, when I specify a time like DEADLINE: 2008-08-04 Mon 16:00 this shows up in the daily agenda of Saturday like this: 8:00.. 10:00.. 12:00.. 14:00.. 16:00.. Plan: 16:00.. In 2 d.: TODO Some Task This is not helpful, it does not belong in the timetable for today. I want the task to show up in the agenda view, just not in the timetable. How can I accomplish that? Also, there is a bug when I add a timestamp to the task: * TODO Some Task 2008-08-02 Sat 14:00 DEADLINE: 2008-08-04 Mon 16:00 This is displayed thusly in the agenda view (note the wrong time on the second occurance): 8:00.. 10:00.. 12:00.. 14:00.. Plan: 14:00.. TODO Some Task 16:00.. Plan: 14:00.. In 2 d.: TODO Some Task Maybe it does not make much sense to specify a deadline after the timestamp. Anyway, I noticed it when playing around. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Using effort property to automatically calculate end time...
Since we already have an effort property, if I were to schedule a task let's say to today using the C-s key, and I also put in a time of 9:00 am, is there a way for org to automatically add the effort property to the start time so as to calculate the end time? Advantage with this is that if I change the effort, the end time also gets pushed out automatically Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Using effort property to automatically calculate end time...
Since we already have an effort property, if I were to schedule a task let's say to today using the C-s key, and I also put in a time of 9:00 am, is there a way for org to automatically add the effort property to the start time so as to calculate the end time? Advantage with this is that if I change the effort, the end time also gets pushed out automatically Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: property for the time part of a timestamp.
Hi Carsten, Thank you so much. Here is a dumb question. What is the return value datatype and the value for the function? Right now I'm running edebug to trace what is going on there to figure this out Thanks, Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: If you get the latest git version, take a look at the variable `org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function'. HTH - Carsten On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Jose Robins wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Robin, On Jul 23, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Jose Robins wrote: I've been extensively using column mode in the agenda buffer to plan my day/week. I have columns set up for scheduled and deadline. However, I was wondering if it'd be possible to expose just the time part of the scheduled timestamp as a property so that I could have a column for the time part of the timestamp (without the date). This would allow one to look @ the daily agenda and schedule time for tasks with just that column without bothering about the date (after all I'm already in today's agenda; so there is no need to see the date). This would in principle be possible of course, basically a filter when displaying the column. Hi Carsten, Would this filter be something that would be done on the source end? If so, would you consider adding it? :) The GoogleTech talk has inspired me to start hacking into the source code a bit and contributing back. As a baby step, I'm thinking about modifying the column view to display custom date formats for the date column. Any pointers on getting me going on this? Thanks mucho, Jose But Also if it'd be possible to sort the column view based on that column's contents it'd be great. That way, all the tasks will be sorted based on the time of the day that the task has been scheduled for. I guess I'm trying to use the column view similar to the time grid. This does not make sense becaue column view still uses the outline structure of your file. Why don't you just use the agenda or a timeline view for this? - Carsten Not sure if others' sort of planning methodology would benefit from this or not. I'm open to other ideas that folks may feel is more efficient for achieving this as well. Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mailto:Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: property for the time part of a timestamp.
Hi Carsten, Works beautifully! Thanks Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Robin, the function must return the string that you'd like to have inserted as the value in the column. For example, to get the time, use something like (untested) (defun my-org-column-cleaner (title value) (cond ((equal title TIME) (if (and value (= (length value) 20)) (substring value 15 20) nil ; there was no value, or it was a short string )) (t nil))) (setq org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function 'my-org-column-cleaner) HTH - Carsten On Jul 27, 2008, at 6:03 AM, Jose Robins wrote: Hi Carsten, Thank you so much. Here is a dumb question. What is the return value datatype and the value for the function? Right now I'm running edebug to trace what is going on there to figure this out Thanks, Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: If you get the latest git version, take a look at the variable `org-columns-modify-value-for-display-function'. HTH - Carsten On Jul 25, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Jose Robins wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Robin, On Jul 23, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Jose Robins wrote: I've been extensively using column mode in the agenda buffer to plan my day/week. I have columns set up for scheduled and deadline. However, I was wondering if it'd be possible to expose just the time part of the scheduled timestamp as a property so that I could have a column for the time part of the timestamp (without the date). This would allow one to look @ the daily agenda and schedule time for tasks with just that column without bothering about the date (after all I'm already in today's agenda; so there is no need to see the date). This would in principle be possible of course, basically a filter when displaying the column. Hi Carsten, Would this filter be something that would be done on the source end? If so, would you consider adding it? :) The GoogleTech talk has inspired me to start hacking into the source code a bit and contributing back. As a baby step, I'm thinking about modifying the column view to display custom date formats for the date column. Any pointers on getting me going on this? Thanks mucho, Jose But Also if it'd be possible to sort the column view based on that column's contents it'd be great. That way, all the tasks will be sorted based on the time of the day that the task has been scheduled for. I guess I'm trying to use the column view similar to the time grid. This does not make sense becaue column view still uses the outline structure of your file. Why don't you just use the agenda or a timeline view for this? - Carsten Not sure if others' sort of planning methodology would benefit from this or not. I'm open to other ideas that folks may feel is more efficient for achieving this as well. Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mailto:Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: property for the time part of a timestamp.
Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Robin, On Jul 23, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Jose Robins wrote: I've been extensively using column mode in the agenda buffer to plan my day/week. I have columns set up for scheduled and deadline. However, I was wondering if it'd be possible to expose just the time part of the scheduled timestamp as a property so that I could have a column for the time part of the timestamp (without the date). This would allow one to look @ the daily agenda and schedule time for tasks with just that column without bothering about the date (after all I'm already in today's agenda; so there is no need to see the date). This would in principle be possible of course, basically a filter when displaying the column. Hi Carsten, Would this filter be something that would be done on the source end? If so, would you consider adding it? :) The GoogleTech talk has inspired me to start hacking into the source code a bit and contributing back. As a baby step, I'm thinking about modifying the column view to display custom date formats for the date column. Any pointers on getting me going on this? Thanks mucho, Jose But Also if it'd be possible to sort the column view based on that column's contents it'd be great. That way, all the tasks will be sorted based on the time of the day that the task has been scheduled for. I guess I'm trying to use the column view similar to the time grid. This does not make sense becaue column view still uses the outline structure of your file. Why don't you just use the agenda or a timeline view for this? - Carsten Not sure if others' sort of planning methodology would benefit from this or not. I'm open to other ideas that folks may feel is more efficient for achieving this as well. Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mailto:Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request - Customisable chars for table drawing
+1. I was actually thinking along the same lines the other day. It would also be cool especially in the clock report tables. Jose Phil Jackson wrote: Hey, It would be really cool if the chars used to draw the various bits of the table were configurable. This way we could use the pretty looking multibyte chars like the ones at the bottom of this page: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt Cheers, Phil ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] How to produce an agenda that filters on both todo keyword and tag?
Richard G Riley wrote: Giovanni Ridolfi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- Gio 24/7/08, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Da: Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: The Tags view is really called the tags view for historical reasons. It is really for matching tags, properties, and TODO entries alike. Should we rename it? The match view? The query view? Proposals? Match view sounds good to me. +1 Giovanni Posta, news, sport, oroscopo: tutto in una sola pagina. Crea l#39;home page che piace a te! www.yahoo.it/latuapagina Filtered View +1 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Feature Request: property for the time part of a timestamp.
I've been extensively using column mode in the agenda buffer to plan my day/week. I have columns set up for scheduled and deadline. However, I was wondering if it'd be possible to expose just the time part of the scheduled timestamp as a property so that I could have a column for the time part of the timestamp (without the date). This would allow one to look @ the daily agenda and schedule time for tasks with just that column without bothering about the date (after all I'm already in today's agenda; so there is no need to see the date). Also if it'd be possible to sort the column view based on that column's contents it'd be great. That way, all the tasks will be sorted based on the time of the day that the task has been scheduled for. I guess I'm trying to use the column view similar to the time grid. Not sure if others' sort of planning methodology would benefit from this or not. I'm open to other ideas that folks may feel is more efficient for achieving this as well. Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] clocktable bug?
Yep, that's it! Silly me. Actually, it would be great if the manual could be idiot-proofed especially for people like me!! :) thanks, Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: I cannot reproduce this. Maybe the documentation is not clear enough to explain that you need to write :link t i.e. :link needs to have a value ? - Carsten On Jul 21, 2008, at 3:59 PM, Jose Robins wrote: When you have a clocktable with :tstart :tend, step and link, the step does not seem to be working (essentially the whole week or month is presented in one big chunk). the presence of link seems to be problem. If you take off link, then the *step* parameter is honored. org6.05b on emacs 22.x Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mailto:Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Repeater interval using weekdays
Hi, When I schedule a repeating task which I'd like to repeat daily (e.g. daily morning meetings etc.), I do so with a +1d specifier. However, looks like when I mark today's as done, it will schedule a task for tomorrow. However, it also seems to schedule for sat and sundays. Is there any way to specify just a weekday repeater specifier or is there another way to do what I'm trying to accomplish? Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] TODOs only shown when others are marked as done
Hmm.. I never knew of it's existence. This seems like something that would be useful to me. BTW, maybe it would be nice to annotate/document these kind of features which are in the contrib directory in an appendix of the info documentation. It would seem a shame if some of these features are not used because folks didn't know about the existence... Plus the more these are used then there would be more feedback and some of these could find their way into the main tree... Just a thought... Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: Hi Renee, we have had some discussion about dependencies in the past, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3641/focus=3641 and a result was the creation of org-depend.el which is distributed with Org as a contributed package. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3980 Hope this helps. - Carsten On May 11, 2008, at 10:03 PM, Renee Klawitter wrote: Hi! I'm an org-mode newbie but already quite dependent on it ... as it works very well for me. My way of doing things is - along general lines - to brainstorm about, order logically and then make TODOs from my tasks. Most of the time this involves TODOs which are dependent on other items - i.e. do B when A is finished. Therefore it would be great to be able to somehow create dependencies between TODOs and only show those in the TODO tree, whose dependencies are all marked DONE. Is this possible with org mode ? Thanks for your time, Renee. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mailto:Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Minor bug in time grid view in agenda buffer
_*Bug Description*_ Let's say I have a scheduled entry which I've scheduled for today with the time of 7:15-8:30 am (using a time string on the item) and I have another entry for 8:30 am to 10:00am. Now I have set it up such that the default times to be shown are whatever is set by default. I also have set it such that if an entry exists for a particular time, no empty grid line should be shown. However, 8:00-8:30 still shows in the gridline view (as an empty line) even though an entry exists from 7:15 - 8:30 am. However, if I make it from 8:00 to 8:30 am, the empty grid line entry disappears. _*Question/Wish Item*_ Also is there a way to allow for times after 12:00 pm to be shown in am/pm format instead of 24 hour clock in the time grid view? Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Question on faces used in the column view mode in the agenda view buffer
I have turned on priority highlighting such that [A] priority items get highlighted in red and such in agenda view. In the agenda Day view buffer however if I turn on the column view mode, the face of the column turn to some sort of a default face for all the lines regardless of the priorities. Is it possible to have the same priority type formatting be available even in column mode in the agenda view buffer? Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Abbrevs and Org Tables
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Apr 20, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Jose Robins wrote: On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width problems within tables. I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis markers defined so... '(org-emphasis-alist (quote ((* bold b /b) (/ italic i /i) (_ underline u /u) (= org-code code /code verbatim) (~ org-verbatim verbatim) (+ (:strike-through t) del /del) ( font-lock-keyword-face ) (# j-green-face ) (^ j-highlight-face '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color green etc. When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special characters would disappear and the correct formatting would appear on the word, however the right cell vertical divider character would get pulled in by 1 character. tab does not resize the table cell properly. I need to manually insert a space to move the divider to the right and then everything would work as expected. Just a minor annoyance.. Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... Hi Jose, does C-c C-c fix the alignment, or not? - Carsten Hi Carsten, Actually, C-c C-c does work while tab does not work reliably. I was just trying out different emphasis markers. Bold was what was giving me problem today (* regexp) - TAB didn't work while C-c C-c worked. My customized ones seemed to work fine today. However I do distinctly remember them not working properly earlier. Let me know if C-c C-c is the recommended method for reformatting tables... I've also found my custom emphasis markers not working reliably on headlines. Sometimes, they will revert back to not being emphasized depending on the following headline's contents. Not sure if using emphasis markers on headlines is discouraged or not. If you like, I can document this better and send you more details on the type of actions that cause the formatting to break. I've always been known to indulge in corner cases and using things on the bleeding edge, so things like this always happen to me :) Thanks, Jose Jose Chris Randle wrote: Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, hnbc to exapand to how now brown cow, and then type hnbc[space] inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays stuck where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Abbrevs and Org Tables
On a related note, I have some emphasis formatting/cell width problems within tables. I have some custom emphasis alist along with hiding the emphasis markers defined so... '(org-emphasis-alist (quote ((* bold b /b) (/ italic i /i) (_ underline u /u) (= org-code code /code verbatim) (~ org-verbatim verbatim) (+ (:strike-through t) del /del) ( font-lock-keyword-face ) (# j-green-face ) (^ j-highlight-face '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) where j-green-face or essentially the default face with the color green etc. When I do an emphasis inside a table, the emphasis special characters would disappear and the correct formatting would appear on the word, however the right cell vertical divider character would get pulled in by 1 character. tab does not resize the table cell properly. I need to manually insert a space to move the divider to the right and then everything would work as expected. Just a minor annoyance.. Not sure if I explained the issue correctly... Jose Chris Randle wrote: Hi I define an Emacs abbrev of, say, hnbc to exapand to how now brown cow, and then type hnbc[space] inside an org table cell. After it has expanded it pushes the trailing cell divider away, even though the cell width was adequate. Tabbing out of the cell doesn't re-fit the cell divider - it stays stuck where it was after the expansion. It's slightly odd, because if I type lots of leading spaces before the abbrev and then tab, org happily moves the expanded text back to the beginning of the cell, but still doesn't move the trailing divider. C-c C-c fixes it, and also moving the cursor over to the trailing cell divider and backspace one char and tab. Any other workarounds or suggestions? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Agenda view for logging?
Hi Ben, Thanks for your detailed response. Your arguments make perfect sense. Let me try to get into the habit of scheduling and putting deadlines. It's all a question of learning new habits and sticking to it. Regards, Jose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jose, I'm also still very much a rookie, in GTD and in org-mode. But I'd argue against added one more way to add something to the agenda time grid. Things show up in the time grid if 1) you use C-c C-s (adds SCHEDULED: property to headline) 2) you use C-c C-d (adds DEADLINE: property to headline) 3) you use C-u C-c . (inserts timestamp at point; headline will show up in agenda) As a novice, I've come to the belief that these multiple ways of 'scheduling' (I mean only that a line of text is added to the agenda) have grown organically from org-mode's past, by not dropping an older, simpler way, but adding a new mechanism for a specific type of time-management problem. Each one has its own small differences in how it interacts with other features of org-mode to support the specific issue it addresses (deadlines show up in red, e.g.) I offer the following thoughts quite humbly, knowing that I'm likely among the least effective time-manager and org-mode user on this list. In response to your concerns a) no need to type extra characters response: perhaps you could try the commands listed above. You only need to type the time-range, and org-mode fills in the rest b) no need to clutter up with the date response: SCHEDULED and DEADLINE properties can be folded under the headline (in fact, they can be put into the PROPERTY drawer, if you'd really like to hide them. And there's no extra date verbage in the time grid (and I think there is a customization for removing the word 'Scheduled' if you don't like it, but I haven't decided to dislike it *that* much. It's the default and I trust it's there for a good reason) c) if I miss it today, it'll show up tomorrow response: So if you've missed washing the dog today at 9:56, why should that task be automatically rescheduled for tomorrow *at the exact same time*. If missing the appointed time and date doesn't prevent you from doing that task, then perhaps you could make it a TODO item that shows up on the global todo list instead. If you actually did the task, but didn't get around to changing your headline, then it's there for you to deal with inappropriately. Oh, and if you have a normal date+timestamp, then you find the headline and hit S-right to move the day forward by one, so the manual rescheduling isn't hard either. So if you glance at yesterday's agenda, and see something in the wrong place, it's easy to move forward. This works in the agenda, in the org-mode buffer, and you only need to get point somewhere inside or next to the timestamp (I use C-u C-u arrow alot, which isn't very precise, so I appreciate that I don't have to get the point to a specific character) I hope you like key-board shortcuts (or you're going to go crazy with emacs, much less org-mode!) Respectfully yours, Ben On 2008-04-10 Thu, at 16:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 6 Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 08:09:21 -0700 From: Jose Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Agenda view for logging? To: Joel J. Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: org-mode emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Joel J. Adamson wrote: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Jose, Manish I don't really think that it would be reasonable to make any entry that contains a string that looks like a time show up in the agenda. I think I missed part of this conversation. If I put ** Wash the dog 2008-04-10 09:56 in one of my org-agenda-files, it shows up at 9:56 in the agenda time-grid. Is this not the intended behavior? Joel Yes, that is intended behavior and it works fine. The question was whether a time range without a time-stamp would work as well. something like... ** 9:55 am - 10:15 am wash the dog - would put this task in today's agenda view. I see Carsten's point about not wanting to recognize any arbitrary text string which looks like a time to be considered a time-of-specification. A possible compromise is to have a string which looks like 10:15-10:30 to be considered as a task for today which appears @ the appropriate time in the agenda view. The beauty is that (a) you avoid having to type in extra keystrokes to schedule it, (b) no need to clutter with an additional date and (c) if it doesn't get done or something, when I do the agenda view tomorrow, it shows up there as well and it doesn't get lost. Of course, I may be asking for things that may have other negative implications, since after all, I'm still a rookie with org mode (still wet behind the ears) and maybe there are better approaches to this. :-) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.gnu.org
Re: [Orgmode] Agenda view for logging?
Thanks Manish for the response. I didn't realize I had to schedule it as well. Now it works... Thanks, Manish wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Jose Robins wrote: I'm slowly getting familiar with the agenda view. I see that the agenda view shows the time-of-day-specification in the time column. Is there any way to show the time stamps based on the logbook entries? So e.g. If the clock properties for a headline1 is from 9:20 am to 9:55 am, and headline2 has 10:15 to 10:44 am, then the agenda view should show ... 9:20-9:55 headline1 10:15-10:44 headline2 You do get this if you create a task like so: *** TODO 1pm-14:30 another test task for Jose SCHEDULED: 2008-04-09 Wed CREATED: [2008-04-09 Wed 12:30] *** TODO test task for Jose 12:30-8:00pm SCHEDULED: 2008-04-09 Wed CREATED: [2008-04-09 Wed 12:15] And the agenda (with time grid turned on) looks like this: Day-agenda (W15): Wednesday 9 April 2008 8:00.. - 9:00.. - 10:00.. - 11:00.. - 12:00.. - braindump: 12:30-20:00 Scheduled: TODO test task for Jose 13:00.. - 14:00.. - braindump: 13:00-14:30 Scheduled: TODO another test task for Jose 15:00.. - 16:00.. - 17:00.. - 18:00.. - 19:00.. - 20:00.. - 21:00.. - 22:00.. (instead of the time-of-day). Is that possible? Also, the manual says in page 67 of the pdf : a time range may appear as plain text (like '12:45' or a 8:30-1pm). This is in section 10.4.2 / page marked #70 or page 77 as reported by PDF reader (at least in manual for Release 6.00pre-2). If I understood this correctly, I should be able to put... *task1 8:30-1:00pm in an org file and if I go to the agenda view, I should see this listed in today's agenda from 8:30 am to 1:00pm. However I don't seem to be able to see that happening. Did I get that wrong? I'm using verson 5.23a of or-mode in emacs 22.1 I think you either have not added SCHEDULED (C-c C-s) or have not turned the time grid on (`G' in agenda view). HTH, -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Agenda view for logging?
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Jose Robins wrote: Thanks Manish for the response. I didn't realize I had to schedule it as well. Now it works... Well, how else should the agenda know on which date the entry should be shown... - Carsten My (apparently flawed) reasoning was that, the feature was meant to provide a quick and dirty way to show tasks meant for today in the agenda view and would show up on today's agenda regardless of whether it was scheduled or not. Jose Thanks, Manish wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Jose Robins wrote: I'm slowly getting familiar with the agenda view. I see that the agenda view shows the time-of-day-specification in the time column. Is there any way to show the time stamps based on the logbook entries? So e.g. If the clock properties for a headline1 is from 9:20 am to 9:55 am, and headline2 has 10:15 to 10:44 am, then the agenda view should show ... 9:20-9:55 headline1 10:15-10:44 headline2 You do get this if you create a task like so: *** TODO 1pm-14:30 another test task for Jose SCHEDULED: 2008-04-09 Wed CREATED: [2008-04-09 Wed 12:30] *** TODO test task for Jose 12:30-8:00pm SCHEDULED: 2008-04-09 Wed CREATED: [2008-04-09 Wed 12:15] And the agenda (with time grid turned on) looks like this: Day-agenda (W15): Wednesday 9 April 2008 8:00.. - 9:00.. - 10:00.. - 11:00.. - 12:00.. - braindump: 12:30-20:00 Scheduled: TODO test task for Jose 13:00.. - 14:00.. - braindump: 13:00-14:30 Scheduled: TODO another test task for Jose 15:00.. - 16:00.. - 17:00.. - 18:00.. - 19:00.. - 20:00.. - 21:00.. - 22:00.. (instead of the time-of-day). Is that possible? Also, the manual says in page 67 of the pdf : a time range may appear as plain text (like '12:45' or a 8:30-1pm). This is in section 10.4.2 / page marked #70 or page 77 as reported by PDF reader (at least in manual for Release 6.00pre-2). If I understood this correctly, I should be able to put... *task1 8:30-1:00pm in an org file and if I go to the agenda view, I should see this listed in today's agenda from 8:30 am to 1:00pm. However I don't seem to be able to see that happening. Did I get that wrong? I'm using verson 5.23a of or-mode in emacs 22.1 I think you either have not added SCHEDULED (C-c C-s) or have not turned the time grid on (`G' in agenda view). HTH, -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Agenda view for logging?
I'm slowly getting familiar with the agenda view. I see that the agenda view shows the time-of-day-specification in the time column. Is there any way to show the time stamps based on the logbook entries? So e.g. If the clock properties for a headline1 is from 9:20 am to 9:55 am, and headline2 has 10:15 to 10:44 am, then the agenda view should show ... 9:20-9:55 headline1 10:15-10:44 headline2 (instead of the time-of-day). Is that possible? Also, the manual says in page 67 of the pdf : a time range may appear as plain text (like '12:45' or a 8:30-1pm). If I understood this correctly, I should be able to put... *task1 8:30-1:00pm in an org file and if I go to the agenda view, I should see this listed in today's agenda from 8:30 am to 1:00pm. However I don't seem to be able to see that happening. Did I get that wrong? I'm using verson 5.23a of or-mode in emacs 22.1 Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Displaying a standalone timer window based on clock-in/out
Carsten Dominik wrote: On Apr 1, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Jose Robins wrote: Before I was aware of org-mode, I developed this small superkaramba timer application which would display which task I was working on, when I started it, how much time was left, and also the current time. I've attached a snapshot of that app to this email. Now I'm using org-mode extensively which has reignited my love for emacs. I know org-mode displays the current task and the elapsed time on the emacs modeline which is good. I was wondering if it would be possible to generate a separate automatic emacs frame (which is compact and for all intents and purposes looks like a simple xwindow) with the task name, the elapsed time etc. from org-mode as soon as you clock in .. This would allow for this timer window to be on all desktops for e.g without being intrusive. Right now, I basically manually enter this info into my custom timer when I clock in and out of a task in org-mode. Not sure whether others using org-mode feel a similar need or whether they use any other methods... Hmmm, I don't really see the need/use for this, so I am not going to implement it. Maybe I can provide you with a hook and you write a package to use this hook? - Carsten That would be good! I'll see if I can do something around that. Now that you've said that you don't really see the need for this, I suppose, everyone else would agree with you!! :-) After all, you managed to make an april fool's joke and everyone jumped on your bandwagon not realizing it was a joke! Such is your moral power, my friend!! :-) Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] opinion+suggestions: Check boxes on headlines and cookies to take care of this into account...
I like working with checkboxes, more than with headlines with a TODO keyword. Unfortunately, right now checkboxes are lightweight and so do not enjoy all the privileges enjoyed by headlines - especially clocking in and out (which is very important for me). I wish that regular checkboxes were also allowed to have the same privileges as headlines. Has this idea been discussed before? Were there any decisions one way or the other. Another option is to have checkboxes on headlines (which I find very intuitive). On one of Sacha Chua's blogs I found a defun to allow cookies to update checkbox count on a parent headline cookie if there were checkboxes on it's subtree headlines. This was given in one of her chapters in her new book that she had posted online http://sachachua.com/notebook/wickedcoolemacs/wc-emacs-07-managing-your-notes.pdf So I took that and modified it *slightly* - (it had a bug whereby if the item after the subtree list was at the same level as it's parent's parent, the checkbox count would get confused and still keep on counting)... Still there are a few issues. If anyone is interested, here is the code... ;;;_. Update Checkbox count - to allow for checkboxes to be used in headings ;;; Based on code from Sacha Chua (defun wicked/org-update-checkbox-count (optional all) Update the checkbox statistics in the current section. This will find all statistic cookies like [57%] and [6/12] and update them with the current numbers. With optional prefix argument ALL, do this for the whole buffer. (interactive P) (save-excursion ;;declaring and assigning values to a whole bunch of variables (let* ((buffer-invisibility-spec (org-inhibit-invisibility)) ;; assign point to the beg variable and ;; returning an error in case of error (beg (condition-case nil (progn (outline-back-to-heading) (point)) (error (point-min ;; make a marker which will point to the end of the current outline region (end (move-marker (make-marker) (progn (or (or (outline-get-next-sibling) (progn (goto-char beg) nil)) (progn (outline-end-of-subtree) (point)) (goto-char (point-max))) (point (re \\(\\[[0-9]*%\\]\\)\\|\\(\\[[0-9]*/[0-9]*\\]\\)) (re-box ^[ \t]*\\(*+\\|[-+*]\\|[0-9]+[.)]\\) +\\(\\(\\[[- X]\\]\\)\\|TODO\\|DOING\\|DONE\\)) b1 e1 f1 c-on c-off lim (cstat 0)) ;; if called with a prefix argument, all will be non-nil; in which case count the checks in the whole buffer (when all (goto-char (point-min)) (setq beg (point) end (point-max))) (goto-char beg) (while (re-search-forward re (marker-position end) t) (setq cstat (1+ cstat) b1 (match-beginning 0);set b1 to the beginning of the recent search e1 (match-end 0);set e1 to the end of the recent re search f1 (match-beginning 1);set f1 to the position of the 1st paranthesized expression lim (cond ((org-on-heading-p) (or (outline-get-next-sibling) (goto-char (point-max))) (point)) ((org-at-item-p) (org-end-of-item) (point)) (t nil)) lim (marker-position end) ; right now setting lim to the same as end - not sure what the above line is trying to do c-on 0 c-off 0) (goto-char e1) (when lim (while (re-search-forward re-box lim t) (if (member (match-string 2) '([ ] [-] TODO DOING)) (setq c-off (1+ c-off)) (setq c-on (1+ c-on (goto-char b1) (insert (if f1 (format [%d%%] (/ (* 100 c-on) (max 1 (+ c-on c-off (format [%d/%d] c-on (+ c-on c-off (and (looking-at \\[.*?\\]) (replace-match (when (interactive-p) (message Checkbox statistics updated %s (%d places) (if all in entire file in current outline entry) cstat) (defadvice org-update-checkbox-count (around wicked activate) Fix the built-in checkbox count to understand headlines. (setq ad-return-value (wicked/org-update-checkbox-count (ad-get-arg 1 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] opinion+suggestions: Check boxes on headlines and cookies to take care of this into account...
Jose Robins wrote: I like working with checkboxes, more than with headlines with a TODO keyword. Unfortunately, right now checkboxes are lightweight and so do not enjoy all the privileges enjoyed by headlines - especially clocking in and out (which is very important for me). I wish that regular checkboxes were also allowed to have the same privileges as headlines. Has this idea been discussed before? Were there any decisions one way or the other. Another option is to have checkboxes on headlines (which I find very intuitive). On one of Sacha Chua's blogs I found a defun to allow cookies to update checkbox count on a parent headline cookie if there were checkboxes on it's subtree headlines. This was given in one of her chapters in her new book that she had posted online http://sachachua.com/notebook/wickedcoolemacs/wc-emacs-07-managing-your-notes.pdf So I took that and modified it *slightly* - (it had a bug whereby if the item after the subtree list was at the same level as it's parent's parent, the checkbox count would get confused and still keep on counting)... Still there are a few issues. One more thing I did (to Sacha's code) was to also count headlines with TODO keywords and take that into account while updating the checkbox. If anyone is interested, here is the code... ;;;_. Update Checkbox count - to allow for checkboxes to be used in headings ;;; Based on code from Sacha Chua (defun wicked/org-update-checkbox-count (optional all) Update the checkbox statistics in the current section. This will find all statistic cookies like [57%] and [6/12] and update them with the current numbers. With optional prefix argument ALL, do this for the whole buffer. (interactive P) (save-excursion ;;declaring and assigning values to a whole bunch of variables (let* ((buffer-invisibility-spec (org-inhibit-invisibility)) ;; assign point to the beg variable and ;; returning an error in case of error (beg (condition-case nil (progn (outline-back-to-heading) (point)) (error (point-min ;; make a marker which will point to the end of the current outline region (end (move-marker (make-marker) (progn (or (or (outline-get-next-sibling) (progn (goto-char beg) nil)) (progn (outline-end-of-subtree) (point)) (goto-char (point-max))) (point (re \\(\\[[0-9]*%\\]\\)\\|\\(\\[[0-9]*/[0-9]*\\]\\)) (re-box ^[ \t]*\\(*+\\|[-+*]\\|[0-9]+[.)]\\) +\\(\\(\\[[- X]\\]\\)\\|TODO\\|DOING\\|DONE\\)) b1 e1 f1 c-on c-off lim (cstat 0)) ;; if called with a prefix argument, all will be non-nil; in which case count the checks in the whole buffer (when all (goto-char (point-min)) (setq beg (point) end (point-max))) (goto-char beg) (while (re-search-forward re (marker-position end) t) (setq cstat (1+ cstat) b1 (match-beginning 0);set b1 to the beginning of the recent search e1 (match-end 0);set e1 to the end of the recent re search f1 (match-beginning 1);set f1 to the position of the 1st paranthesized expression lim (cond ((org-on-heading-p) (or (outline-get-next-sibling) (goto-char (point-max))) (point)) ((org-at-item-p) (org-end-of-item) (point)) (t nil)) lim (marker-position end) ; right now setting lim to the same as end - not sure what the above line is trying to do c-on 0 c-off 0) (goto-char e1) (when lim (while (re-search-forward re-box lim t) (if (member (match-string 2) '([ ] [-] TODO DOING)) (setq c-off (1+ c-off)) (setq c-on (1+ c-on (goto-char b1) (insert (if f1 (format [%d%%] (/ (* 100 c-on) (max 1 (+ c-on c-off (format [%d/%d] c-on (+ c-on c-off (and (looking-at \\[.*?\\]) (replace-match (when (interactive-p) (message Checkbox statistics updated %s (%d places) (if all in entire file in current outline entry) cstat) (defadvice org-update-checkbox-count (around wicked activate) Fix the built-in checkbox count to understand headlines. (setq ad-return-value (wicked/org-update-checkbox-count (ad-get-arg 1 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies
Re: [Orgmode] opinion+suggestions: Check boxes on headlines and cookies to take care of this into account...
Sebastian Rose wrote: Yes, sorry - was just trying this on in exactly this moment :-/ The clocking works too, but then the TODO - STARTED - DONE is added automatically. Sorry Sebastian, did not exactly catch your point about clocking works too. For me, if I try to clock in/out on a regular checkbox list item, clocking starts on it's parent and NOT on the checkbox list item. But this one could be corrected by using the hook org-after-todo-state-change-hook. Some (not very elegant) function like (defun my-delete-todo-keyword () Delete todo keyword when DONE (interactive) ;; missing code for finding the headline (beginning-of-line) (forward-word 1) (backward-word 1) (if (looking-at DONE) (progn (kill-word 1) (delete-char 1 (setq org-after-todo-state-change-hook (quote (org-clock-out-if-current sr-org-todo-toggle-to-started my-delete-todo-keyword))) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Using column view on a sparse tree displaying only a few tags.
Let's say I have a org tree with some tasks tagged with the keyword :today:. Now I do a sparse tree matching the today tag and this would limit the display to only items with tag today. Now if I would like to do a column view on that sparse tree by doing C-c C-x C-c. However this does not seem to limit the column display to only the headlines with the tag today. Is it possible to achieve what I'm trying to do? Is there any way to filter out (i.e hide) headlines in the column view based on some criteria? Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Using column view on a sparse tree displaying only a few tags.
Thanks Bernt, that works! However the only thing is that I've defined COLUMNS for the whole file using the #+COLUMNS keyword at the top of the file. I guess those properties are not being considered in the column view on the agenda buffer. It comes up with the default column properties I guess the only way is to redefine the standard column properties, so that the column properties that I want are displayed in the agenda view as well... thanks, Jose Bernt Hansen wrote: Jose Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let's say I have a org tree with some tasks tagged with the keyword :today:. Now I do a sparse tree matching the today tag and this would limit the display to only items with tag today. Tag your tasks with :today: then do an agenda view tag match for today C-c a 1 m today RET Tag inheritance will control if subtasks are included or not. Now if I would like to do a column view on that sparse tree by doing C-c C-x C-c. However this does not seem to limit the column display to only the headlines with the tag today. Is it possible to achieve what I'm trying to do? Is there any way to filter out (i.e hide) headlines in the column view based on some criteria? Then C-c C-x C-c in the agenda view HTH, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Displaying a standalone timer window based on clock-in/out
Before I was aware of org-mode, I developed this small superkaramba timer application which would display which task I was working on, when I started it, how much time was left, and also the current time. I've attached a snapshot of that app to this email. Now I'm using org-mode extensively which has reignited my love for emacs. I know org-mode displays the current task and the elapsed time on the emacs modeline which is good. I was wondering if it would be possible to generate a separate automatic emacs frame (which is compact and for all intents and purposes looks like a simple xwindow) with the task name, the elapsed time etc. from org-mode as soon as you clock in . This would allow for this timer window to be on all desktops for e.g without being intrusive. Right now, I basically manually enter this info into my custom timer when I clock in and out of a task in org-mode. Not sure whether others using org-mode feel a similar need or whether they use any other methods... Thanks, Jose inline: tmp5.jpg___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] timestamp rounding question.
Carsten, I found out that when I use the **compiled** version of org.el, when I try to do shift up/down on an inactive timestamp, I get an error with the following backtrace... Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function signum) signum(-1) org-timestamp-change(-1) org-timestamp-down(1) call-interactively(org-timestamp-down) org-shiftdown(nil) call-interactively(org-shiftdown) However, if I delete the .elc and after restarting emacs, the shift up/down works perfectly. I tried deleting all the .elcs in the directory and I recompiled org.el from within emacs. but the problem still remains... Any idea why this could be. Thanks, Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: On Mar 28, 2008, at 5:55 AM, Jose Robins wrote: Using org-mode 5.23a with emacs 22.1, I still don't see timestamp rounding working during clock in/clock out There is no rounding on clock-in and clockout, as we discussed in the earlier thread. There is rounding when you press S-up or S-down on the *minute* part of a time stamp. If the cursor is no any other part of the tie stamp, that part will be changed and no rounding applied. - Carsten (OR shift up/down on the timestamp). Also, I'm slightly confused by an earlier thread we had on this subject. At that time I was using 5.20 (or 5.21, I don't remember) and it was mentioned that it would not be possible to do rounding when inserting time. However the custom options for 5.23a show that there is a variable for rounding during time insertion as well as during time modification via the up/down key - my .emacs setting for this looks as follows... '(org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes (quote (5 5))) However neither seem to have an effect... Hmmm Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] timestamp rounding question.
Using org-mode 5.23a with emacs 22.1, I still don't see timestamprounding working during clock in/clock out (OR shift up/down on the timestamp). Also, I'm slightly confused by an earlier thread we had on this subject. At that time I was using 5.20 (or 5.21, I don't remember) and it was mentioned that it would not be possible to do rounding when inserting time. However the custom options for 5.23a show that there is a variable for rounding during time insertion as well as during time modification via the up/down key - my .emacs setting for this looks as follows... '(org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes (quote (5 5))) However neither seem to have an effect... Hmmm Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Timestamp rounding not working
That's fair. If at some point there is sufficient interest in requesting an option to allow this feature, that could be considered, I guess. Regardless, the workaround of using Shift arrow keys should work for me. - Original Message From: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernt Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Thomas Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:14:21 AM Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: Timestamp rounding not working On Mar 23, 2008, at 2:14 AM, Bernt Hansen wrote: Thomas Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not in my case. I would prefer the clock times to show exact times and do the rounding only when S-cursor keys are used. -- Manish +1 I second/third this. Please let time clocking use exact timestamps. If you want to adjust the timestamps with time rounding please make that an option so that clocking can still be done exactly. That makes it 3:1, so for now I will not change anything. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] org mode columns don't work on xemacs 21
Wow, this is a momentous day for me. I've been a hard core xemacs user for the last 12 years. And I've finally decided to switch over to emacs. I'll miss the nicer look and more streamlined and clean cut interface of xemacs. But after the release of emacs 22 and things like column support and such in org-mode which is available only in emacs have convinced me that the tradeoffs in sticking with xemacs was just not worth it... Even other packages are always better supported in emacs Ah well, xemacs I'll miss some of your features ! but auf wiedersehen, it's time to say goodbye to you... Jose Carsten Dominik wrote: On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:18 PM, Jose Robins wrote: I use org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21. When I try to use the column features in org -mode, I get a message that emacs 22 is needed for this to work. Question: - Is there any patch or something that I can apply to xemacs 21.4 for this work? No. - What specific feature in emacs 22 helps this to work? Column view uses overlays, adn the differences in the overlay/extent implementation would require a lot of work making it compatible. I do not have the time to work this out, so column view is not supported under XEmacs and likely never will. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] xemacs bug report with version 5.23a
I was using org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21 till now and I decided to upgrade to org mode 5.23a. When I try to open an org mode file, org mode fails to start with the following backtrace (attached as well) ... I believe I removed the org mode bytecode to make sure the backtrace has the actual code, but please let me know if you want me to do anything else for better error reporting. Thanks, Jose # bind (standard-output stack-trace-on-signal debug-on-signal stack-trace-on-error debug-on-error newfun oldfun) define-obsolete-function-alias(org-get-legal-level org-get-valid-level 23.1) # bind (current-load-list) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (load-file-name) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) load-internal(org nil nil nil nil nil) # bind (nosuffix nomessage noerror file) load(org nil nil nil) # (unwind-protect ...) org-mode() # bind (alist mode name keep-going) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (just-from-file-name) set-auto-mode() byte-code(... [set-auto-mode t] 1) # (condition-case ... . ((error (byte-code ÁÂÃ!\ˆÄ‡ ... 4 # bind (find-file) normal-mode(t) # bind (nomodes after-find-file-from-revert-buffer noauto warn error) after-find-file(nil t) byte-code(... [buffer-file-number number truename buffer-file-truename buf buffer-file-name set-buffer-major-mode erase-buffer nil (byte-code «‡Â Ã\ˆª…ÄÃ\ˆÂ‡ [rawfile filename insert-file-contents-literally t insert-file-contents] 3) ((file-error ...)) abbreviate-file-name file-name-directory make-local-variable backup-inhibited t after-find-file find-file-use-truenames default-directory backup-enable-predicate rawfile error nowarn] 3) # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code Â!ˆÃ@A\‡ ... 3 # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (error number truename buf rawfile nowarn filename) find-file-noselect(/users/jrobins/org/work.org) # bind (codesys filename) find-file(/users/jrobins/org/work.org) # bind (dir file-count line end-of-options file-p arg tem) command-line-1() # bind (command-line-args-left) command-line() # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code ‡ ... 1 # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) # bind (standard-output stack-trace-on-signal debug-on-signal stack-trace-on-error debug-on-error newfun oldfun) define-obsolete-function-alias(org-get-legal-level org-get-valid-level 23.1) # bind (current-load-list) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (load-file-name) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) # (unwind-protect ...) load-internal(org nil nil nil nil nil) # bind (nosuffix nomessage noerror file) load(org nil nil nil) # (unwind-protect ...) org-mode() # bind (alist mode name keep-going) # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (just-from-file-name) set-auto-mode() byte-code(... [set-auto-mode t] 1) # (condition-case ... . ((error (byte-code ÁÂÃ!\Ä ... 4 # bind (find-file) normal-mode(t) # bind (nomodes after-find-file-from-revert-buffer noauto warn error) after-find-file(nil t) byte-code(... [buffer-file-number number truename buffer-file-truename buf buffer-file-name set-buffer-major-mode erase-buffer nil (byte-code «Â Ã\ª Ä Ã\ [rawfile filename insert-file-contents-literally t insert-file-contents] 3) ((file-error ...)) abbreviate-file-name file-name-directory make-local-variable backup-inhibited t after-find-file find-file-use-truenames default-directory backup-enable-predicate rawfile error nowarn] 3) # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code Â!à @ A\ ... 3 # (unwind-protect ...) # bind (error number truename buf rawfile nowarn filename) find-file-noselect(/users/jrobins/org/work.org) # bind (codesys filename) find-file(/users/jrobins/org/work.org) # bind (dir file-count line end-of-options file-p arg tem) command-line-1() # bind (command-line-args-left) command-line() # (condition-case ... . ((t (byte-code  ... 1 # bind (error-data) normal-top-level() # (condition-case ... . error) # (catch top-level ...) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Timestamp rounding not working
I use org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21. When I clock in and out of a task, the time stamps don't seem to round off to 5 minutes as I have specified in the custom settings. Isn't that what the time stamping rounding setting is supposed to do? Or do I have that wrong? Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] org mode columns don't work on xemacs 21
I use org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21. When I try to use the column features in org -mode, I get a message that emacs 22 is needed for this to work. Question: - Is there any patch or something that I can apply to xemacs 21.4 for this work? - What specific feature in emacs 22 helps this to work? Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Timestamp rounding not working
Basically I use the custom variable setting. Here are the relevant lines from my custom.el . I also included all my other custome variable org settings in case something was overriding the stamping... '(org-time-stamp-rounding-minutes 5) '(org-agenda-custom-commands (quote ((d todo DELEGATED nil) (c todo DONE|DEFERRED|CANCELLED nil) (w todo WAITING nil) (W agenda ((org-agenda-ndays 21))) (A agenda ((org-agenda-skip-function (lambda nil (org-agenda-skip-entry-if (quote notregexp) \\=.*\\[#A\\]))) (org-agenda-ndays 1) (org-agenda-overriding-header Today's Priority #A tasks: ))) (u alltodo ((org-agenda-skip-function (lambda nil (org-agenda-skip-entry-if (quote scheduled) (quote deadline) (quote regexp) [^ ]+))) (org-agenda-overriding-header Unscheduled TODO entries: )) '(org-agenda-files (quote (/users/jrobins/org/work.org /users/jrobins/org/todos.org))) '(org-agenda-ndays 7) '(org-agenda-show-all-dates t) '(org-agenda-skip-deadline-if-done t) '(org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t) '(org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil) '(org-clock-into-drawer 2) '(org-cycle-include-plain-lists t) '(org-deadline-warning-days 14) '(org-display-custom-times t) '(org-drawers (quote (PROPERTIES CLOCK))) '(org-emphasis-alist (quote ((* bold b /b) (/ italic i /i) (# Highlight ) (_ underline u /u) (= org-code code /code verbatim) (~ org-verbatim verbatim) (+ format-font-lock-strikethru-face del /del '(org-fast-tag-selection-single-key (quote expert)) '(org-fontify-done-headline t) '(org-hide-emphasis-markers t) '(org-hide-leading-stars t) '(org-remember-store-without-prompt t) '(org-reverse-note-order t) '(org-tags-column -120) '(org-time-stamp-custom-formats (quote (%b/%d %a . WW %V.%w %I:%M %p))) '(org-todo-keyword-faces (quote ((WIP . yellow '(org-todo-keywords (quote ((sequence TODO WIP DONE - Original Message From: Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jose Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 9:47:35 AM Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Timestamp rounding not working On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Jose Robins wrote: I use org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21. When I clock in and out of a task, the time stamps don't seem to round off to 5 minutes as I have specified in the custom settings. Isn't that what the time stamping rounding setting is supposed to do? Or do I have that wrong? Can you please show the setting from your .emacs? -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Timestamp rounding not working
Carsten Dominik wrote: Timestamp rounding does work for timestamps you enter interactively, and when you modify a time stamp with the Shift-cursor keys. But the time stamp inserted by the clock commands does not do this - I implemented it like this under the assumption that people would want to have exact times in this case. Is this assumption wrong? My *personal* preference is for the rounding to be applied to those time stamps as well. But I'm not sure of others. May be a custom variable that allows for this option would be a solution. Also after I've clocked out, when I do the Shift-cursor keys (on the standard ISO display and not custom display) on the resulting time stamps.. , the clock still do not seem to do rounding. I'm still coming into terms with all these time stamps ... - Carsten On Mar 22, 2008, at 5:08 PM, Jose Robins wrote: I use org-mode 5.21 with xemacs 21.4.21. When I clock in and out of a task, the time stamps don't seem to round off to 5 minutes as I have specified in the custom settings. Isn't that what the time stamping rounding setting is supposed to do? Or do I have that wrong? Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org mailto:Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] problems cloning the org mode git repo
for any others, the problem was solved by doing the following ... git clone git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git I replaced the string http with git I removed the /w part in the path... Jose Robins wrote: I tried to get the git repo by cloning and I got the following error. I'm just getting into git as well... So what am I doing wrong? Thanks, git clone http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git org-repo Initialized empty Git repository in /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/ error: Could not interpret response from server '?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en-US lang /users/jrobins/apps/bin/git-clone: line 474: cd: /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/refs/remotes/origin: No such file or directory Warning: Remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] problems cloning the org mode git repo
I tried to get the git repo by cloning and I got the following error. I'm just getting into git as well... So what am I doing wrong? Thanks, git clone http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git org-repo Initialized empty Git repository in /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/ error: Could not interpret response from server '?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en-US lang /users/jrobins/apps/bin/git-clone: line 474: cd: /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/refs/remotes/origin: No such file or directory Warning: Remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] problems cloning the org mode git repo
I tried to get the git repo by cloning and I got the following error. I'm just getting into git as well... So what am I doing wrong? Thanks, git clone http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git org-repo Initialized empty Git repository in /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/ error: Could not interpret response from server '?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en-US lang /users/jrobins/apps/bin/git-clone: line 474: cd: /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/refs/remotes/origin: No such file or directory Warning: Remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
