Re: [O] advice please: best way to export to DOC(X) with maths

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Thanks!
I will experiment with this work-flow, but i have one other issue, any
advice on working with existing (word) document templates?
I have to work within templates, so it would be great if i could manage to
conform.

On 19 December 2017 at 06:09,  wrote:

> On 2017-12-15 12:28, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>
>> On Friday, 15 Dec 2017 at 03:20, ed...@openmail.cc wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> I only know how to do a rough approximation by means of pandoc:
>>>
>>> #+BEGIN_SRC bash
>>>pandoc -f org+smart my-original.org -t docx+smart -o my-output.docx
>>> #+END_SRC
>>>
>>
>> What version of pandoc are you using?  My Debian (testing) has pandoc
>> 1.19.2.4 and it does not seem to recognise the +smart bits...
>>
>> But, in any case, pandoc (without the smart bits) does seem to do a
>> reasonable job and creates proper maths entities.  This is good enough
>> for me!  My once a year pain is relieved.  :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> eric
>>
>
> I'm sorry for the very late response (deadlines). I will check for the
> pandoc version and let you know. One of the distros that I use is a rolling
> linux. The other one is the same as yours. I would also like to note that I
> got the pandoc snippet from Dr. Kitchin's website:
> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2015/01/29/Export-org
> -mode-to-docx-with-citations-via-pandoc/
>
> I checked, and I am very satisfied with ~C-c C-e o o~. I set #+OPTIONS:
> dvipng. You can't edit the formulas, but I don't care about that. All my
> equations look fine and the pictures too. I also have to copy my references
> by hand, but that is the least of my issues, and I only do it when the
> final version is ready. I also get my source blocks right.
>
> I think that the only thing which is really missing from Org as related to
> exporting is handling pictures inside tables (a way to create subfigures).
> There is a partial solution with ox-latex-subfigure [[
> https://github.com/linktohack/ox-latex-subfigure]], but is limited in the
> :width parameter. One of these days I will learn LISP and implement it
> myself (unless another brave soul goes for it first). Even Beamer columns
> can be used to this end, but this would only work for presentations. I
> don't know any other way.
>
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Re: [O] advice please: best way to export to DOC(X) with maths

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Does anyone know of a good round trip/review workflow for word documents?
I'm interested in generating documents and processing feedback/comments,
especially with word document tracking.

On 15 December 2017 at 14:30, Eric S Fraga  wrote:

> On Friday, 15 Dec 2017 at 13:58, Fabrice Popineau wrote:
> > The best way  is probably to generate a PDF with LaTeX
> > and to open it with MS-Word. Yes, it can do that, and the math import
> > is quite good (for what I have seen, at least as good as any other
> > alternative option).
>
> Interesting.  I don't use MS Word (I'm on Linux on all of my systems)
> but may ask somebody to check this out for me.  LibreOffice almost works
> importing the PDF generated via LaTeX but not quite.  OneDrive (web
> interface) doesn't quite work either.
>
> But pandoc is handling most of what I need.
>
> thanks,
> eric
>
> --
> Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.4-214-ge8b71b
>

[O] RFC better Unicode support - Unicode Characters causing problems with TAGs etc.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

I have been experimenting with some Unicode symbols as part of my TODO and
TAG definitions, to mixed results. I would like to propose that they are
given first class support, especially in tags and priorities.

Also, are other people using Unicode, and if so, how? especially with
visually consistent tables, does anyone have a a good mono-spaced to
recommend?

Here is some stuff to play with:


#+PRIORITIES: ❢ ☯ ⧖
#+TAGS: emacs⚙ ⌚yakshaving
#+SEQ_TODO: ☐TODO  ❢☐ ☯☐ ⌚☐ ⚙☐ ✍☐ ⧖ | ✔☺ ✔ ✘ ☑  ☒ ☓ ☑DONE  ☒CANCELLED ☓

TODO fastkeys and similar seem to work

Tables:
| symbols| Interpretation |   |   |   |
| ❢☐ ||   |   |   |
| ❢TODO  ||   |   |   |
| ⌚☐WAITING ||   |   |   |
| ⧖WAITING  ||   |   |   |
| ✔☺ ||   |   |   |
| ✔DONE  ||   |   |   |
| ✘  ||   |   |   |
| ☑  ||   |   |   |
| ☒  ||   |   |   |
| ☓  ||   |   |   |

* [#⧖] ❢☐ add ispell write mode hook to saving journals
:emacs⚙:

---

Tim.

Re: [O] Problems with opening a link

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

I've had a similar issue, but with redmine links.
if i have
#+LINK: rm http://redmine/issues/%s

* link [[rm:3287]] does not work properly any more (with firefox under KDE)

best regards,

Tim.

On 31 March 2017 at 14:52, Carsten Dominik  wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> which system are you on?
>
> I am using a Mac, and the "open" command in the mac as
> browse-url-generic-program
>
> Carsten
>
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Scott Randby  wrote:
>>
>> On 03/31/2017 05:39 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > I have problems opening a link in org.
>> >
>> > The link looks like this:
>> >
>> >
>> > https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/#search/q=author%3A%22Dominik%2CC%22/metrics
>> >
>> > I have copied it like this from the address bar in a browser.
>> >
>> > If I click on it in Org-mode, the link is modified to
>> >
>> > https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/%23search/q=author:%22Dominik,C%22/metrics
>> >
>> > before being sent to the browser, and the browser cannot resolve it.
>> > The problem seems to be that # has been turned into %23
>>
>> The link worked fine when I tried opening it from an Org file. I'm using
>> Org 9.0.3 in Emacs 24.5.1 and my browser is Firefox.
>>
>> Scott Randby
>>
>> >
>> > Where does this happen, and how can I fix this?
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Carsten
>
>

[O] Question: state of the art using org for a Knowledge manager with publishing

[Tim O'Callaghan]

I'm in my semi-regular rebuild of my org-mode process, and during my
re-boot post-mortem i came to the conclusion that i need to use it
more like a knowledge manager/wiki that i can publish parts of.

I realise others on the list are out there doing this, or something
like it. Do people have examples they can share on best practices?

Cheers,

Tim.

Re: [O] My sync setup for Org-mode files and more: unison, git (was: Require feedback on an idea: move to a central server all my org file and edit from there?)

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

My setup uses Dropbox and encfs. It is the best cross platform
solution for managing this problem i have come across. I used to use
git repos, unison, ssh tunneling, etc, but Dropbox beats them all
hands down, and i can use it with a free account.

- Windows - Dropbox + boxcryptor classic
- Andoid - Dropbox + android Boxcryptor classic or cryptonite
- Linux/Macos - Dropbox + encfs

I created a script to automount and manage encfs and possible
conflicts on the encrypted filesystem from my bash command line. You
can find the script here:
https://github.com/timoc/encfsbox

I've been using this setup for a few years now and it auto-syncs all
of my org files, research material etc (and git repositories) securely
between multiple hosts.
I also use it to securely share org-files and working support material
with others,

The only caveat is to add this line (or add a org-mode hook) to the
top of your org file, so that if an org file is open elsewhere when
you edit your dropbox it will get auto-reloaded by emacs:

# -*- mode: org; mode:auto-revert; -*-

Dropbox manages conflict detection between the various hosts. I have
very  rarely had any conflicts between hosts. If you use my enfsbox
script it will automatically tell you if it encounters conflicts in
the encrypted files, and you can call it with the C parameter to move
the conflicted file into the encfs filesystem so you can perform a
merge.

Hope this helps.

Tim.
P.S. if you like this idea, and want to create a Dropbox account,
please use this link: https://db.tt/d1zHZ92
It donates extra dropbox storage to me, for which i will tidy-up and
publish my multi-dropbox account version and accept feature requests
via github :)

On 25 January 2016 at 16:42, Karl Voit  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> * Xebar Saram  wrote:
>>
>> I keep syncing (via git,unison etc) all my org files all the time between 4
>> machines and i just had enough :) im not (and probably never will be)
>> disciplined enough to properly save and close all my 100's of buffer before
>> i leave each machine each time and im always faced with conflict/merging
>> hell..
>
> I do have privacy concerns since my most precious data is all
> managed via Org-mode.
>
> My system with four machines (1x Win7, 3x Linux) is:
>
> - home desktop:
>   - gitwatch + auto-commit: committing all changes when I save a
> file (or a file gets synced)
>   - unison over ssh: sync with my own root-server via 10min cron-job
>
> - root server:
>   - just providing data and sync services
>   - no Emacs processing
>
> - home notebook:
>   - unison over ssh to root server (10min cron-job)
>
> - work (Win7):
>   - manual unison sync in the morning & evening
>
> Since I close Emacs when I'm done working on a machine, I avoid
> merge hell so far.
>
> I never forget to sync because Org is very important to me and the
> sync jobs don't just sync Org-mode files but my whole core data-set
> of several hundreds megabytes. I tend to use this functionality also
> for "high-frequency" backup of my most important data.
>
> --
> mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode:
>> get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs <
>
> https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github
>
>

Re: [O] backend for todo.txt format (todotxt.com)

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Coming late to this discussion - Its great to find out about
org-todotxt.el, I shall start playing with it straight away.

For what its worth, my setup uses the todo.txt command line app as a
capture tool, with the todo.txt kept in a Dropbox folder. On my phone
i use the outstanding Clockwork Tomato (a pomodoro timer), which can
read and write local todo.txt format files, and automatically
synchronise the changes with a todo.txt on Dropbox.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.phlam.android.clockworktomato

It was a feature request of mine a while back noted under ' Task
lists, editable from any text editor through Dropbox'. As it has
multiple profiles, it can sync with multiple todo.txt files, which is
handy for shared task lists etc.

I use CWT on my android phone to examine/modify my outstanding
todo.txt tasks, and to track time associated with them, mark them as
done etc. I also use it for habit tracking. It can export the task
logfiles too, but i have yet to use them for anything.

On 19 January 2016 at 07:20, Kyle Meyer  wrote:
> Stefan Huchler  writes:
>
>> Kyle Meyer  writes:
>>
>>> if-let has been define in Emacs's subr-x.el since c08f8be (New if-let,
>>> when-let, thread-first and thread-last macros., 2014-06-30).
>
> Sorry, I know nothing about org-todotxt.el and haven't been following
> this discussion.  I just knew where if-let was.
>
> --
> Kyle
>

[O] Exporting Org Agenda - todo.txt and todo.txt - Org Files + Suggestion/Feature request.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi

I have a request and a suggestion.

Request:
Does anyone else out there generate todo.txt files[1] from
org/org-agenda? If you do, how do you do it. Or if not, do you have a
good idea about how if it can be approximated in an agenda
configuration?

Suggestion/Feature request:
An org-import mode/file format. The use case is about changing heading
states, properties, contexts, contents in a corpus of org documents
like the corpus represented by org-agenda-files, by importing file(s)
external to the document corpus.

The basic idea is a well defined reverse of an export/agenda. At the
moment i know of no explicitly defined mechanism for org data importing,
making sync/round-tripping between other systems a tedious task. If
there was an 'official' mechanism for importing from an external
source, then people can focus on what to integrate with rather than
how to integrate.

The easiest way to think about this is a kind of patch file format
that uses headline instead of line numbers to anchor the changes. The
emacs workflow i
imagine, should be something like patch, with ediff for the broken
patches.

Rationale:
I've moved to a todotxt file a form of 'shared agenda' for myself and
others i work with. Rather than needing emacs and my org-file corpus
everywhere, I can sync and share a single todo.txt. The todo.txt
contains our next actions/todos, decoupling the requirement that
everyone else has to use emacs too. The  use their own system and we
maintain the the tasks together in the shared todotxt file. I also use
the original todo.txt bash script to give me an agenda in my shell,
and now it is also in my favourite pomodoro app clockwork tomato[2].

Tim.
[1] (http://todotxt.com)
[2] 
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.phlam.android.clockworktomatohl=en)

[O] Fwd: Cooperating with oneself using the cloud?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Christoph:
I'm more pragmatic. Obfuscated code or not, it works better than any
other Linux cloud storage system i've used. So far my solution has
allowed me to maintain a reasonably good pan system (and OS)  emacs
and org configuration. Dropbox also 'versions' the encrypted files, so
i can restore them if i need them, which has proven handy. The killer
feature for me is that once i set it up, i do not have to fiddle with
it. No git pulls, pushes, merges or whatever, dropbox does that for
me.

If someone has an open *reliable* equivalent solution then I might switch?

Will,
I have no instructions per-se. I did consider git, using git-annexe or
similar tool, but the pre-internet encryption i require does not
easily happen out of the box. If you are only syncing between your own
git servers though and do not care so much file level encryption
git-annexe a remarkable tool. I still cannot get my head around how it
works (symlinks galore!) but it seems ideal for personal sync (but not
to github). This is the nearest thing i've seen to dropbox.
https://git-annex.branchable.com/

Worth mentioning too is flashbake. This will auto commit your changes
with notes in the commit messages like what mp3 you were listening to
and pages you were browsing at the time of the commit. IIRC you would
have to do the pushing and pulling, but if like me, you are always too
busy or forgetting to commit and push your org files before you switch
systems, this might help.
https://github.com/commandline/flashbake/wiki

Tim.

On 24 September 2014 17:42, Christoph Groth christ...@grothesque.org wrote:
 Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

 I collaborate with myself via dropbox and encfs. encfs does the
 encryption, (via  an encrypted fuse filesystem) and dropbox syncs the
 encrypted files.


 That might be a perfect solution if the dropbox client wasn’t the
 obfuscated piece of closed code it is.

 I actually wonder why they don’t make the client free software. If
 their service is well-designed, security shouldn’t depend on this. Is
 there so much valuable code in there?  Github is tremendously successful
 with a free client (and, regrettably, closed server-side software).

 Christoph

Re: [O] Cooperating with oneself using the cloud?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

I collaborate with myself via dropbox and encfs. encfs does the
encryption, (via  an encrypted fuse filesystem) and dropbox syncs the
encrypted files.

I use it for linux, but it should also work for mac and windows. If i
need to, i can access the files on android using the encfs plugin (who's
name i cannot remember).

I have written a script that i run in my bashrc that auto-mounts the
encrypted dropbox folder for me. It also auto-detects dropbox
conflicts and helps resolve those with encfs.
https://github.com/timoc/encfsbox

I have been using this solution for a few years without it giving too
much trouble :)

Tim.

On 22 September 2014 10:05, Christoph Groth christ...@grothesque.org wrote:
 If at least one of your computers can be reached from all the others via
 ssh, or you can reach all the other computers from one (i.e. there’s a
 star topology), you could use unison to synchronize all kinds of files.
 This works very reliably and handles modifications in both directions.

 I use git for my programming projects, but I find that version control
 is not really ideal for simple file synchronization.  This is why I
 think that DVCs (and specifically git) are not a good solution for sync
 (In case that someone is interested in a discussion of these things):

 Keeping everything in a single repo is not handy, and solutions (like
 “myrepos”) are kludges.  Another serious problem with using git for
 synchronization is that it’s not able to synchronize git repositories,
 as AFAIK it’s not possible/reasonable to keep git repositories under git
 themselves.  Just imagine the case where you are in the middle of some
 work with a git repo (an interactive rebase, for example), and you’d
 like to sync and continue on another machine.

 With unison this works like a charm, you there’s no automatic resolution
 of conflicts.  This is not a problem if you run unison at the beginning
 and at the end of each session.

Re: [O] [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3

[Tim O'Callaghan]

 Rasmus ras...@gmx.us writes:

 For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, , `, !, ?, and
 ~.

 Oh, do you really need the Alt-Gr key for `?' and `!' ?

 Does that mean you don't use `C-c !' or that you rarely use it?

 Of course, this may have nothing to do with the keybinding itself,
 but I'm curious.


If i can throw in my 2-cents, I have been using Alt-O or(Meta-O if you
prefer) for a Ctrl-C, Ctrl-C substitute in org-mode for years. Now i
use a combination of an activation key (Alt-O or f4) and a kind of
fast-key mnemonic map. I need mnemonics because there is just too much
in org-mode, and i prefer to just type an extra key rather than have
to bend to hit a semi-random modifier + cryptic keymap entry.

so:
Alt+o,a = agenda,
Alt+o,0 = capture - inbox
Alt+o,1 = agenda file 1

Alt+o, A,h = agenda - home tag
Alt+o,T,c = org table convert region
Alt+o,T,C,b = org table convert buffer.


Basically, two keys to most used personal functions. To save the
pinkies, alt and shift are the only modifiers. alt for the activator,
and shift to dig into a personalised sub-menu.  I tried binding to
FNkeys, but i could not memorise them. the ah = at home comes
naturally to me.

I for one will follow this idea with interest.

Tim.

Re: [O] [Orgmode] Feature Request: Keeping me honest

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi Adam.

I still lurk on the org-mode list. I'm not using org as much as a TODO
system any more, mostly for publishing and notes, so I am not sure if
it works with the lates version of org.

Attached is the code, released for those that might find it of value.
It has not substantially changed in all that time. Its essentially an
extra highlighter aimed at org-mode nodes that have tags like todo and
project.

regards,

Tim.

On 15 December 2013 17:08, Adam Spiers orgm...@adamspiers.org wrote:
 Hey Tim,

 I realise this is from over 4 years ago, but I was wondering if you'd
 made any progress with org-action-verbs since then?  It's a great idea
 and IMHO worthy of being made into a package.

 Cheers,
 Adam

 On 1 October 2009 03:29, Tim O'Callaghan tim.ocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Small update. Fixes the problem of the highlighting not disappearing
 when headline is fixed.

 - Still has some issues with removing highlighting when TODO becomes
 something else.

 - Added new default verbs:
 TODO, NEXT - Call, Email, Fix, Find, Fill out, Give, Print, Re-Do, Take
 PROJECT - Configure, Draft, Purge, Gather

 Enjoy,

 Tim.
;;; org-action-verbs.el --- Highlight potentially un-doable headlines.

;; Copyright (C) 2008 Tim O'Callaghan

;; Author: Tim O'Callaghan t...@dspsrv.com
;; Version: 0.1

;; This file is not currently part of GNU Emacs.

;; This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
;; modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as
;; published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at
;; your option) any later version.

;; This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
;; WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
;; MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
;; General Public License for more details.

;; You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
;; along with this program ; see the file COPYING.  If not, write to
;; the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330,
;; Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.

;;; Commentary:

;; This is an implementation of an idea I had to keep me honest. In
;; GTD each 'next action' is supposed to be an actual do-able thing to
;; further the project it is associated with.

;; When creating next actions or project headlines there is sometimes
;; a tendancy to use a heading that is a bit vauge/un-doable. This is
;; usually a sign that the task the headline represents needs more
;; thinking about and will probably need more than one next action or
;; spawn another project.

;; org-action-verbs was created to use a list of GTD 'action verbs' to
;; diagnose a functional Next Action and project headline. It
;; searches for headlines of a specific TODO type and checks to see if
;; the next word is specified as an action verb. If not, then it
;; highlights the non actionable word. Kind of like flyspell mode.

;; To use you might put the following in your .emacs:
;;
;; (require 'org-action-verbs)
;;
;; To change the default TODO/Action verb table you can set
;; 'org-action-todo-verbs'. Below is an example
;; 'org-action-todo-verbs' The first checks for the right spaceship
;; name associated with the SPACESHIP todo type, and the right colour
;; for the COLOR/COLOUR todo type.

;;(setq org-action-todo-verbs
;;  '(
;;((SPACESHIP) . (Challenger Voyager Enterprise Nostromo Apollo ))
;;((COLOUR COLOR) . (Red Yellow Green Aquamarine Blue Black))
;;)
;;
;;

(require 'org)

(defface org-action-incorrect-face
  'class color) (background light)) (:foreground purple :bold t :underline t))
(((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground purple :bold t :underline t))
(t (:bold t :underline t)))
  Used by org-action-verbs to help mark bad 'un-doable' headlines.)

;; backward-compatibility alias
(put 'org-action-incorrect-face 'face-alias 'org-action-incorrect)

(defvar org-action-todo-verbs 
  '(
((TODO NEXT) . 
 (Address Ask Avoid Buy Change Clarify Collect Commend Confront
  Consider Create Decide Defer Develop Discard Do Again Download
  Enter File Follow Up Hire Improve Increase Inform Inquire
  Maintain Measure Monitor Order Paint Phone Prioritize Purchase
  Question  Reduce Remember Repair Reply Report Research Resolve
  Review Schedule Sell Send Service Specify Start Stop Suggest
  Tidy Train Update Upgrade Write))
((PROJECT) . 
 (Finalize Resolve Handle Look-Into Submit Maximize Organize
  Design Complete Ensure Research Roll-Out Update Install
  Implement Set-Up))
)
  org-action todo keywords to apply to incorrect action verb overlay to.)

(defun org-font-lock-add-action-faces (limit)
  Add the special action word faces.
  (let (rtn a)
;; check variable is set, and buffer left to search
(when (and (not rtn) org-action-todo-verbs)
  ;; for each todo/action verb set
  (dolist (todo org-action-todo-verbs)
;; build regexps
(let ((todo

Re: [O] [Orgmode] Feature Request: Keeping me honest

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Fine by me.

regards,

Tim.

On 16 December 2013 16:52, Adam Spiers orgm...@adamspiers.org wrote:
 Thanks Tim.  Perhaps this could go in the contrib/lisp/ directory?

 On 16 December 2013 14:02, Tim O'Callaghan tim.ocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Adam.

 I still lurk on the org-mode list. I'm not using org as much as a TODO
 system any more, mostly for publishing and notes, so I am not sure if
 it works with the lates version of org.

 Attached is the code, released for those that might find it of value.
 It has not substantially changed in all that time. Its essentially an
 extra highlighter aimed at org-mode nodes that have tags like todo and
 project.

 regards,

 Tim.

 On 15 December 2013 17:08, Adam Spiers orgm...@adamspiers.org wrote:
 Hey Tim,

 I realise this is from over 4 years ago, but I was wondering if you'd
 made any progress with org-action-verbs since then?  It's a great idea
 and IMHO worthy of being made into a package.

 Cheers,
 Adam

 On 1 October 2009 03:29, Tim O'Callaghan tim.ocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Small update. Fixes the problem of the highlighting not disappearing
 when headline is fixed.

 - Still has some issues with removing highlighting when TODO becomes
 something else.

 - Added new default verbs:
 TODO, NEXT - Call, Email, Fix, Find, Fill out, Give, Print, Re-Do, Take
 PROJECT - Configure, Draft, Purge, Gather

 Enjoy,

 Tim.

Re: [Orgmode] This is probably a misconfiguration rather than a bug, but...

[Tim O'Callaghan]

 search ...) (setq link ...) (setq cpltxt ...)) ((eq major-mode
...) (setq cpltxt ... link ...) (org-store-link-props :type image
:file buffer-file-name)) ((eq major-mode ...) (let ... ... ...)) ((and
... ...) (setq custom-id ...) (cond ... ... ...)) ((buffer-file-name
...) (setq cpltxt ...) (when ... ... ...) (setq link ...))
((interactive-p) (error Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting
a file)) (t (setq link nil)))
  (let ((outline-regexp ...) link cpltxt desc description search txt
custom-id agenda-link) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...)
(... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (...
... ...) (... ... ... ...) (... ...) (t ...)) (if (consp link) (setq
cpltxt ... link ...)) (setq link (or link cpltxt) desc (or desc
cpltxt)) (if (equal desc NONE) (setq desc nil)) (if (and ... link)
(progn ... ... ...) (or agenda-link ...)))
  org-store-link(nil)
  (if (and (boundp ...) org-capture-link-is-already-stored) (plist-get
org-store-link-plist :annotation) (org-store-link nil))
  (let* ((orig-buf ...) (annotation ...) (initial ...) (entry ...))
(when (stringp initial) (remove-text-properties 0 ... ... initial))
(when (stringp annotation) (remove-text-properties 0 ... ...
annotation)) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (t ... ... ... ... ... ...
...)))
  (cond ((equal goto ...) (org-capture-goto-target)) ((equal goto ...)
(org-capture-goto-last-stored)) (t (let* ... ... ... ...)))
  org-capture(nil)
  call-interactively(org-capture nil nil)








On 3 September 2010 02:05, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote:
 Tim O'Callaghan tim.ocallag...@gmail.com writes:
 When i try and use org-capture in a buffer, it fails to display the
 template menu, and it generates the backtrace below.

 It works for org files, but not for some other files.

 Tim.


 If you pull the current Org version, the template menu should be there.
 Just make sure, your variable `org-protocol-default-template-key' is nil
 (which is the default since a few hours).

 We always had the w template as the default of that variable for
 historical reasons.  I changed that, since this broke lately  and I
 wanted to avoid dependencies between the different source files
 (org-capture.el and org-protocol.el in this case).

 As an aside, the interactive template selection is now on by default
 (just as long as the above variable is nil).



  Sebastian




 Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
   directory-file-name(nil)
   (file-name-directory (directory-file-name dirpath))
   (let ((dirname ...) (basename ...)) (list dirname basename))
   org-git-split-dirpath(nil)
   (let ((dirlist ...)) (when (string= ... ) (throw ... nil)) (setq
 dir (first dirlist) relpath (concat ... relpath)))
   (while (not (file-exists-p ...)) (let (...) (when ... ...) (setq dir
 ... relpath ...)))
   (catch (quote toplevel) (while (not ...) (let ... ... ...)) (list
 (expand-file-name .git dir) relpath))
   (let ((dir ...) (relpath ...)) (catch (quote toplevel) (while ...
 ...) (list ... relpath)))
   org-git-gitrepos-p(~/.dotfiles/zemacsen/site-lisp/policy-switch.el)
   (if (org-git-gitrepos-p file) (progn (org-store-link-props :type
 git :link ...)))
   (when (org-git-gitrepos-p file) (org-store-link-props :type git
 :link (org-git-create-git-link file)))
   (let ((file ...)) (when (org-git-gitrepos-p file)
 (org-store-link-props :type git :link ...)))
   (progn (let (...) (when ... ...)))
   (if (buffer-file-name) (progn (let ... ...)))
   (when (buffer-file-name) (let (...) (when ... ...)))
   org-git-store-link()
   run-hook-with-args-until-success(org-git-store-link)
   (cond ((run-hook-with-args-until-success ...) (setq link ... desc
 ...)) ((equal ... *Org Edit Src Example*) (let ... ... ... ... ...
 ... ... ...)) ((equal ... ...) (let ... ...)) ((eq major-mode ...)
 (let ... ... ...)) ((eq major-mode ...) (setq cpltxt ... link ...)
 (org-store-link-props :type w3 :url ...)) ((eq major-mode ...) (setq
 cpltxt ... link ...) (org-store-link-props :type w3m :url ...))
 ((setq search ...) (setq link ...) (setq cpltxt ...)) ((eq major-mode
 ...) (setq cpltxt ... link ...) (org-store-link-props :type image
 :file buffer-file-name)) ((eq major-mode ...) (let ... ... ...)) ((and
 ... ...) (setq custom-id ...) (cond ... ... ...)) ((buffer-file-name
 ...) (setq cpltxt ...) (when ... ... ...) (setq link ...))
 ((interactive-p) (error Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting
 a file)) (t (setq link nil)))
   (let ((outline-regexp ...) link cpltxt desc description search txt
 custom-id agenda-link) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...)
 (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (...
 ... ...) (... ... ... ...) (... ...) (t ...)) (if (consp link) (setq
 cpltxt ... link ...)) (setq link (or link cpltxt) desc (or desc
 cpltxt)) (if (equal desc NONE) (setq desc nil)) (if (and ... link)
 (progn ... ... ...) (or agenda-link ...)))
   org-store-link(nil)
   (if (and (boundp ...) org-capture

[Orgmode] This is probably a misconfiguration rather than a bug, but...

[Tim O'Callaghan]

When i try and use org-capture in a buffer, it fails to display the
template menu, and it generates the backtrace below.

It works for org files, but not for some other files.

Tim.

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument stringp nil)
  directory-file-name(nil)
  (file-name-directory (directory-file-name dirpath))
  (let ((dirname ...) (basename ...)) (list dirname basename))
  org-git-split-dirpath(nil)
  (let ((dirlist ...)) (when (string= ... ) (throw ... nil)) (setq
dir (first dirlist) relpath (concat ... relpath)))
  (while (not (file-exists-p ...)) (let (...) (when ... ...) (setq dir
... relpath ...)))
  (catch (quote toplevel) (while (not ...) (let ... ... ...)) (list
(expand-file-name .git dir) relpath))
  (let ((dir ...) (relpath ...)) (catch (quote toplevel) (while ...
...) (list ... relpath)))
  org-git-gitrepos-p(~/.dotfiles/zemacsen/site-lisp/policy-switch.el)
  (if (org-git-gitrepos-p file) (progn (org-store-link-props :type
git :link ...)))
  (when (org-git-gitrepos-p file) (org-store-link-props :type git
:link (org-git-create-git-link file)))
  (let ((file ...)) (when (org-git-gitrepos-p file)
(org-store-link-props :type git :link ...)))
  (progn (let (...) (when ... ...)))
  (if (buffer-file-name) (progn (let ... ...)))
  (when (buffer-file-name) (let (...) (when ... ...)))
  org-git-store-link()
  run-hook-with-args-until-success(org-git-store-link)
  (cond ((run-hook-with-args-until-success ...) (setq link ... desc
...)) ((equal ... *Org Edit Src Example*) (let ... ... ... ... ...
... ... ...)) ((equal ... ...) (let ... ...)) ((eq major-mode ...)
(let ... ... ...)) ((eq major-mode ...) (setq cpltxt ... link ...)
(org-store-link-props :type w3 :url ...)) ((eq major-mode ...) (setq
cpltxt ... link ...) (org-store-link-props :type w3m :url ...))
((setq search ...) (setq link ...) (setq cpltxt ...)) ((eq major-mode
...) (setq cpltxt ... link ...) (org-store-link-props :type image
:file buffer-file-name)) ((eq major-mode ...) (let ... ... ...)) ((and
... ...) (setq custom-id ...) (cond ... ... ...)) ((buffer-file-name
...) (setq cpltxt ...) (when ... ... ...) (setq link ...))
((interactive-p) (error Cannot link to a buffer which is not visiting
a file)) (t (setq link nil)))
  (let ((outline-regexp ...) link cpltxt desc description search txt
custom-id agenda-link) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...)
(... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (...
... ...) (... ... ... ...) (... ...) (t ...)) (if (consp link) (setq
cpltxt ... link ...)) (setq link (or link cpltxt) desc (or desc
cpltxt)) (if (equal desc NONE) (setq desc nil)) (if (and ... link)
(progn ... ... ...) (or agenda-link ...)))
  org-store-link(nil)
  (if (and (boundp ...) org-capture-link-is-already-stored) (plist-get
org-store-link-plist :annotation) (org-store-link nil))
  (let* ((orig-buf ...) (annotation ...) (initial ...) (entry ...))
(when initial (remove-text-properties 0 ... ... initial)) (when
annotation (remove-text-properties 0 ... ... annotation)) (cond (...
...) (... ...) (t ... ... ... ... ... ... ...)))
  (cond ((equal goto ...) (org-capture-goto-target)) ((equal goto ...)
(org-capture-goto-last-stored)) (t (let* ... ... ... ...)))
  org-capture(nil)
  call-interactively(org-capture nil nil)

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[Orgmode] Feature-request documentation request for org-datetree

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

I've been poking about trying to understand org-date tree, as It is
essentially an undocumented feature at the moment. am i right in my
understanding that it is only meant as a refile-target structure?

The feature request is to allow the use of ISO week numbers to
structure the year rather than Months.

so a structure something like:
* 2010
*** 2010-W35
* 2010-08-30 Monday
* 2010-08-31 Tuesday
* 2010-09-01 Wednesday
* 2010-09-02 Thursday
* 2010-08-03 Friday
* 2010-08-04 Saturday
* 2010-08-05 Sunday

The week heading is based on the ISO representation,
(http://www.iso.org/iso/date_and_time_format) though i guess some
variant on the ISO week heading might look  be better.

what other use can it be used for? how are other people using it?

regards,

Tim.

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[Orgmode] file+olp problem in org-capture.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

first, am i right i assuming that the file+olp is designed so that i
can specify the top of a tree, and the headings in the tree i want to
be able to capture to?

That is what i am trying to do with the 1 option. It does not
evaluate the concat operation and so fails.

;; constant used in lots of other things.
(defconst toc:ze-org-dir  ~/org/)
;; example org template
(setq org-capture-templates
  '(
;; works
;;  (file+headline path/to/file node headline)
(0 0+inbox entry
 (file+headline (concat toc:ze-org-dir 0+inbox.org)
+INBOX) * %? \n)
;; does not work
;;  (file+olp path/to/file Level 1 heading Level 2 ...)
(1 1+projects entry
 (file+olp (concat toc:ze-org-dir 1+projects.org) +TASKS
+PROJECTS)
 * )))


Tim.

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[Orgmode] For Org-mode on the go?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Just though I'd point out the NanoNote a $99 Linux Palmtop, that
should run Emacs.

The 本 version of NanoNote is an ultra small form factor computing
device. The device sports a 336 MHz processor, 2GB of flash memory,
microSD slot, head phone jack, USB device and 850mAh Li-ion battery.
It boots Linux out of the box and also boots over USB. It’s targeted
squarely at developers who see the promise of open hardware and want
to roll their own end user experience. It’s the perfect companion for
open content; we envision developers turning the device into a music
or video player for Ogg or an offline Wikipedia or MIT OpenCourseWare
appliance. Or you can simply amaze your friends by creating an ultra
small handheld notebook computer. You choose the distribution. The 本
Nanonote is the first in a line of products that will see the addition
of other hardware capabilities. Get your NanoNote and start a
Nanoproject today. Or join one of the existing projects in our
developer community.

http://sharism.cc/gallery/?bwbps_page_1=1

Planning on getting one to see...

Tim.

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[Orgmode] [FEATURE REQUEST] Comment Speedkeys or - A solution to the Remember mode three finger salute

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

My general org keyboard policy has been to avoid the use of any Ctrl
related keys, and remap them to Alt, or FN keys where possible. For
example I've mapped M-R to org-remember and M-O to org-ctrlc-ctrlc
etc.

Today I've been looking to try and set up my alt 'speed keys' for the
prefix arg style 'three fingered salute' you need to use to refile
remember mode notes, and it seems i cannot. At least not without using
keyboard macros. I wanted to re-map M-R to refile and M-T
re-template

... which leads me to my feature request.

Is it possible to extend the speed key functionality to org comment
lines? If so, could you assign speed keys to the comment lines in the
remember buffer? Hitting PgUp or M- is natural, and then pressing a
single key to do my filing operation, would be great. I should then
also be able to assign speed keys for different re-file locations.

This could possibly change the wording of the template at the top, and
presumably need some kind of functional re-factoring of the remember
code so that each operation has its own function..

Comment speed keys could then be used for #+SRC code blocks, setting
#+STARTUP features or whatever.

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)

[Tim O'Callaghan]

My .02Euro-cents worth.

I used to have an uber.org file setup, but i found it de-focused my
thinking. I'd get sidetracked because a topic caught my attention or
looked out of place.

I've moved to something a bit more dynamic now, its still under
construction though. I wanted to be able to minimize the amount of
keystrokes i need to access a particular file, and have something that
translated well to a mobile keypad. So my new philosophy is that I've
decided to use numbers. They're easy to memorize and can be used in a
kind of personal Dewey decimal scheme.

Breaking it down, I have a bunch of directories in ~/

| org | the main org directory, under git
 |
| 0_INBOX | a clearing house for file based stuff - firefox
downloads to here |
| 1_PROJECT   | root tree for current project folders
 |
| 2_SOMEDAY   | root tree for someday project folders and tickler
reminder files|
| 5_TOREAD| electronic media i want to read - pdfs text files etc.
 |
| 6_TOLISTEN  | podcasts, audiobooks etc,
 |
| 7_TOWATCH   | downloaded videos etc.
 |
| 8_REFERENCE | general reference material.
 |

Using git, I sync my ~/org directory across the various machines i use
org-mode on, but i leave the [0-9]_ named directories local to the
machine. That provides context. I'm still experimenting with keeping
the numbered directories under git. Its proving problematic when my
sourcecode is also under git too.

The 1_PROJECT folder contains a folder per project. Each project
folder has a 1+project name.org file in it, which automatically gets
picked up and used in the Agenda (see .emacs stuff below for details).
That way the agenda is only populated with work i can actually do on
that machine. I'm still looking into how to use git and the attachment
system to manage project directories as separate git projects...

In the sycned ~/org folder i have these files which are included in
the agenda. All of these files can be found with two keystrokes, a
number then a '+'.

| 0+inbox.org| where all my remember stuff is dumped.|
| 1+projects.org | personal/portable misc small project container|
| 2+someday.org  | Someday/Tickler/To-Buy|
| 4+calendar.org | Appointments, birthdays (yet to sync with google) |
| 8+contacts.org | Contact information   |
| 9+journal.org  | Musings, Writings, rants etc. |

And finally i'm using the numbers again, and traffic light style
colors for task and project state tracking.

| key | color  | tag  | description
 |
|-++--+-|
|   0 | green  | DONE | Task done
 |
|   1 | grey   | TODO | Heading is a next action that was outlined and
might need doing |
|   2 | yellow | NEXT | Heading is a next action that needs doing.
 |
|   3 | orange | WAIT | Heading is something i am waiting for
 |
|   4 | yellow | APPT | Heading is an appointment of some kind
 |

Tim.

 the .emacs code 

(setq  org-default-notes-file (expand-file-name ~/org/0+inbox.org)
  org-todo-keywords
  (quote
   (;; normal workflow need action | no action required
(sequence TODO(1!) NEXT(2!/!) WAIT(3@/!) APPT(4@/!)
  | DONE(0!/@!) DEFERRED(d...@!/!) CANCELED(c...@!/!))
;; project state indicators
(type PROJECT(P!/@!) SOMEDAY(S!/@!) | PROJDONE PROJCANC)
))
  org-todo-keyword-faces
  (quote
   (;; traffic light style task colours
(TODO :foreground grey :weight bold)
(NEXT :foreground gold :weight bold)
(DONE :foreground forest green :weight bold)
(WAIT :foreground orange :weight bold)
(APPT :foreground gold :weight bold)
(CANCELED :foreground indianred :weight bold)
;; project level todo indicators
(SOMEDAY :foreground orchid :weight bold)
(PROJECT :foreground grey :weight bold)
(PROJDONE :foreground forest green :weight bold)
(PROJCANC :foreground indianred :weight bold)
)))

(setq org-agenda-files ())
;; use ~/org and search the top level directories in the 1_PROJECT folder
(defun toc:add-org-agenda-directories (dir filter)
  add files matched by filter in directory dir to org-agenda-files list
  (interactive)
(dolist (d2 (file-expand-wildcards (expand-file-name dir)))
  (if (file-directory-p d2)
  (dolist (f (directory-files d2 t filter t))
(push f org-agenda-files)

; only include numbered files from org directory
(toc:add-org-agenda-directories ~/org [1-9]+.*.org$)
; auto include - 1+project-name files
(toc:add-org-agenda-directories ~/1_PROJECT/* 1\+.*.org$)
;;
(setq org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :maxlevel . 3)))


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[Orgmode] Possible bug in TODO ALL agenda fast tag filter generation?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Any idea why this is happening? I'm seeing it with the agenda t
(global todo all)

---
Global list of TODO items of type: ALL
Available with `N r': (0)ALL (1)TODO (2)NEXT (3)WAITING (4)APPT
(5)DONE (6)DEFERRED (7)CANCELLED (8)PROJECT (9)SOMEDAY (10)PROJDONE
(11)PROJCANC (12)TODO (13)NEXT (14)WAITING (15)APPT (16)DONE
(17)DEFERRED (18)CANCELLED (19)PROJECT (20)SOMEDAY (21)PROJDONE
(22)PROJCANC (23)TODO (24)NEXT (25)WAITING (26)APPT (27)DONE
(28)DEFERRED (29)CANCELLED (30)PROJECT (31)SOMEDAY (32)PROJDONE
(33)PROJCANC (34)TODO (35)NEXT (36)WAITING (37)APPT (38)DONE
(39)DEFERRED (40)CANCELLED (41)PROJECT (42)SOMEDAY (43)PROJDONE
(44)PROJCANC (45)TODO (46)NEXT (47)WAITING (48)APPT (49)DONE
(50)DEFERRED (51)CANCELLED (52)PROJECT (53)SOMEDAY (54)PROJDONE
(55)PROJCANC (56)TODO (57)NEXT (58)WAITING (59)APPT (60)DONE
(61)DEFERRED (62)CANCELLED (63)PROJECT (64)SOMEDAY (65)PROJDONE
(66)PROJCANC (67)TODO (68)NEXT (69)WAITING (70)APPT (71)DONE
(72)DEFERRED (73)CANCELLED (74)PROJECT (75)SOMEDAY (76)PROJDONE
(77)PROJCANC (78)TODO (79)NEXT (80)WAITING (81)APPT (82)DONE
(83)DEFERRED (84)CANCELLED (85)PROJECT (86)SOMEDAY (87)PROJDONE
(88)PROJCANC (89)TODO (90)NEXT (91)WAITING (92)APPT (93)DONE
(94)DEFERRED (95)CANCELLED (96)PROJECT (97)SOMEDAY (98)PROJDONE
(99)PROJCANC
---


My todo-keywords config is this:

(setq org-todo-keywords
  (quote
   ((sequence TODO(1!) NEXT(2!/!) WAITING(3@/!) APPT(4@/!)
  | DONE(0!/@!) DEFERRED(d...@!/!) CANCELLED(c...@!/!))
(type PROJECT(P!/@!) SOMEDAY(S!/@!) | PROJDONE PROJCANC)
))
  org-todo-keyword-faces
  (quote
   (
(TODO :foreground orangered :weight bold)
(NEXT :foreground gold :weight bold)
(DONE :foreground forest green :weight bold)
(WAITING :foreground orange :weight bold)
(CANCELLED :foreground indianred :weight bold)
;; project level todo indicators
(SOMEDAY :foreground orchid :weight bold)
(PROJECT :foreground grey :weight bold)
(PROJDONE :foreground forest green :weight bold)
(PROJCANC :foreground indianred :weight bold)
)))


Using git emacs 23 org git source (both as of this morning)

Tim.


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[Orgmode] Re: Possible bug in TODO ALL agenda fast tag filter generation?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

The problem is that org-todo-keywords-1 is set for each agenda file
parsed, and that list is appended onto the
org-todo-keywords-for-agenda without any de-duplication.
The patch below fixes the problem, but possibly not in the best way.

regards,

Tim.

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index d80bb91..6a663b3 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -14960,6 +14960,8 @@ When a buffer is unmodified, it is just
killed.  When modified, it is saved
(add-text-properties
 (match-beginning 0) (org-end-of-subtree t) pc)))
(set-buffer-modified-p bmp)
+(setq org-todo-keywords-for-agenda
+  (org-uniquify org-todo-keywords-for-agenda))
 (setq org-todo-keyword-alist-for-agenda
  (org-uniquify org-todo-keyword-alist-for-agenda)
  org-tag-alist-for-agenda (org-uniquify org-tag-alist-for-agenda


On 7 April 2010 11:47, Tim O'Callaghan tim.ocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
 Any idea why this is happening? I'm seeing it with the agenda t
 (global todo all)

 ---
 Global list of TODO items of type: ALL
 Available with `N r': (0)ALL (1)TODO (2)NEXT (3)WAITING (4)APPT
 (5)DONE (6)DEFERRED (7)CANCELLED (8)PROJECT (9)SOMEDAY (10)PROJDONE
 (11)PROJCANC (12)TODO (13)NEXT (14)WAITING (15)APPT (16)DONE
 (17)DEFERRED (18)CANCELLED (19)PROJECT (20)SOMEDAY (21)PROJDONE
 (22)PROJCANC (23)TODO (24)NEXT (25)WAITING (26)APPT (27)DONE
 (28)DEFERRED (29)CANCELLED (30)PROJECT (31)SOMEDAY (32)PROJDONE
 (33)PROJCANC (34)TODO (35)NEXT (36)WAITING (37)APPT (38)DONE
 (39)DEFERRED (40)CANCELLED (41)PROJECT (42)SOMEDAY (43)PROJDONE
 (44)PROJCANC (45)TODO (46)NEXT (47)WAITING (48)APPT (49)DONE
 (50)DEFERRED (51)CANCELLED (52)PROJECT (53)SOMEDAY (54)PROJDONE
 (55)PROJCANC (56)TODO (57)NEXT (58)WAITING (59)APPT (60)DONE
 (61)DEFERRED (62)CANCELLED (63)PROJECT (64)SOMEDAY (65)PROJDONE
 (66)PROJCANC (67)TODO (68)NEXT (69)WAITING (70)APPT (71)DONE
 (72)DEFERRED (73)CANCELLED (74)PROJECT (75)SOMEDAY (76)PROJDONE
 (77)PROJCANC (78)TODO (79)NEXT (80)WAITING (81)APPT (82)DONE
 (83)DEFERRED (84)CANCELLED (85)PROJECT (86)SOMEDAY (87)PROJDONE
 (88)PROJCANC (89)TODO (90)NEXT (91)WAITING (92)APPT (93)DONE
 (94)DEFERRED (95)CANCELLED (96)PROJECT (97)SOMEDAY (98)PROJDONE
 (99)PROJCANC
 ---


 My todo-keywords config is this:

 (setq org-todo-keywords
      (quote
       ((sequence TODO(1!) NEXT(2!/!) WAITING(3@/!) APPT(4@/!)
                  | DONE(0!/@!) DEFERRED(d...@!/!) CANCELLED(c...@!/!))
        (type PROJECT(P!/@!) SOMEDAY(S!/@!) | PROJDONE PROJCANC)
        ))
      org-todo-keyword-faces
      (quote
       (
        (TODO :foreground orangered :weight bold)
        (NEXT :foreground gold :weight bold)
        (DONE :foreground forest green :weight bold)
        (WAITING :foreground orange :weight bold)
        (CANCELLED :foreground indianred :weight bold)
        ;; project level todo indicators
        (SOMEDAY :foreground orchid :weight bold)
        (PROJECT :foreground grey :weight bold)
        (PROJDONE :foreground forest green :weight bold)
        (PROJCANC :foreground indianred :weight bold)
        )))


 Using git emacs 23 org git source (both as of this morning)

 Tim.



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[Orgmode] Org mode and Collaboration with others.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi org (ab)users

This is a kind of follow up to an earlier thread, because i think
there is some value in kicking off a discussion.

I have suspicions that org-mode is essentially a solitary habit. I've
done a quick search in the manual or FAQ about how you might share
your org habit with others, but nothing seems to exist.

So i thought I'd ask the users how they spread their org around. I'm
looking for ideas that are not the fire and forget publishing of
your org todo's method. I mean a method that you can meaningfully
involve others, even if the involvement is synced through an external
collaboration tool.

Anyone?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Fast traversing directories

[Tim O'Callaghan]

This version will accept wildcards and recurse one directory level level down


(setq org-agenda-directories '(~/org ~/1_PROJECT/*))
(setq org-agenda-files '())
(dolist (d1 org-agenda-directories)
  (dolist (d2 (file-expand-wildcards (expand-file-name d1)))
(if (file-directory-p d2)
(dolist (f (directory-files d2 t .org$ t))
  (push f org-agenda-files)


Hope it helps.

Tim.

2009/10/31 Thierry Volpiatto thierry.volpia...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
 if you have traverselisp.el, you can use:

 ,
 | (dolist (d org-directories)
 |   (traverse-walk-directory d :file-fn #'(lambda (x)
 |                                           (when (string= 
 (file-name-extension x) org)
 |                                             (push x org-agenda-files)
 `

 you can get traverselisp.el here:
 http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs/traverselisp.el

 or here: (hg clone)
 http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/traverselisp

 Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:

 andrea Crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com wrote:


 I tried this because I have more base directories.
 (setq org-directories '(~/org ~/uni))
 (setq org-agenda-files ())
 (dolist ((d org-directories))
   (setq org-agenda-files
      (append org-agenda-files (find-lisp-find-files d \.org$


 But it sets org-agenda-files to nil...

 Too many parens: try

 (dolist (d org-directories)
    (setq org-agenda-files
       (append org-agenda-files (find-lisp-find-files d \.org$

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [hack/extension] org-mode/emacs regexp

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi Marcelo.

Thanks for the thumbs up, its nice when that happens.

So, to your questions - The answers are a bit long, and I'm cc'ing to
the list so that others wanting org-action-verb like stuff can
understand what it does, and hack it for their needs.

* Debugging.

 I've been coding elisp on and off for years, but I'm no elisp
 expert. I put org-action-verb together after allot of RTFM, and
 looking at other code.

 I debugged it using these methods:

 + (message).  To get an idea about what is going on without having
   to use the debugger, the message function is handy. It will print
   whatever to the *messages* buffer. Primitive, but worked for me at
   the time.

 + (regexp-builder). For regular expression work there is the built
   in regular expression builder (M-x regexp-builder) or John
   Wiegley's excellent (M-x regex-tool), which i only just remembered
   I have.

 + (eval-region). I have it mapped to a key, but (M-x eval-region) is
   great for changing small parts of the compiled elisp, variables or
   whatever.

 + (info-lookup-symbol).  When poking about in the innards of
   (X)Emacs, it is always a good idea to have info-lookup-symbol
   mapped to a key somewhere. I have it mapped to f1.

   (define-key global-map [f1] 'info-lookup-symbol)

   It will bring up a buffer showing what the symbol under the cursor
   does and what file it is defined in (if the symbol is documented).

* RTFM - Read the Fine Manual.
 Other things to read up on to understand org-action-verb:

 + What brackets do in a regular expression
   
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Regexp-Backslash.html#Regexp-Backslash

   It is also kind of confusing to see \\ in the code and \ in
   the documentation. Some more RTFM may be required :)

 + What this line of elisp does:
   (make-overlay (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1) nil t nil)

    
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Managing-Overlays.html#Managing-Overlays
    
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Simple-Match-Data.html#index-match_002dbeginning-3021

* org-action-verb - what it does.

 Essentially, all org-action-verb does, is build a bunch of regular
 expressions to find headlines between 'point' and 'limit' with the
 correct TODO type. Once it has found a headline that matches, it
 uses other regular expressions to add or remove the overlay *to the
 first sub-element* of those regular expressions.

 The meat of the code from the original org-action-verb with some
 better comments, will probably provide a better explanation

--- starting at line 189

;;
;; match the whole headline and remove any previous overlay without
;; moving point. Where point should be at the start of a headline.
;;
(if (looking-at \\(.*\\)$)
   (remove-overlays (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1) 'org-action-overlay t))
;;
;; check for the presence of a valid action-verb
;;
(if (looking-at todo-action-verbs-regexp)
 ;;
 ;; do nothing if the action verb matches
 ;;
   nil
 ;;
 ;; It is not an action verb, apply the overlay to the first word
 ;; in the line.
 ;;
 ;; The regular expression matches the first word after a space or
 ;; tab on a matching headline, and applies the org-action-incorrect
 ;; overlay to it.
 ;; So:
 ;; [ ]+\\(w+)
 ;;
 ;; in english becomes:
 ;;
 ;; - [ ]+ - Match one or more space or tab (should use :space:).
 ;; - \\(   - Open sub expression 1
 ;; - \\   - Match the empty string, but only at the beginning of a word
 ;; - \\w   - Match one or more word-constituent characters
 ;; - \\   - Match the empty string, but only at the end of a word
 ;; - \\)   - Close sub expression 1
 ;;
 (if (looking-at [ ]+\\(w+))
     ;; apply new overlay to 1st matching sub-expression
     (let ((overlay (make-overlay (match-beginning 1) (match-end 1) nil t nil)))
       (overlay-put overlay 'org-action-overlay t)
       (overlay-put overlay 'face 'org-action-incorrect)
       (overlay-put overlay 'evaporate t)
       overlay

--- ending at line 202

* What you need to do to fix your problem?
 I suspect all you need to do is change the matching expression to
 something like:

 (let ((tag-keywords-regexp (concat
^\\*+[:space:]+[\\w:space:]+[:space:]+:\\( tag \\):$) ))

 Also you probably want to first match the whole line to remove the
 overlay, before applying a new one.

Hope that helps,

Tim.

2009/11/16 Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com:
 Ok, I'm sorry, I actually had to research a little bit more before posting
 :)

 Well, what I need to know now is how to make the overlay work. The code to
 match is working, but I'm receiving the following error:

 Error during redisplay: (wrong-number-of-arguments match-beginning 0)

 Here's the full code: http://pastie.org/701448

 (Thanks to Tim O'Calaghan for the original contribution)

 Marcelo.

 Also, how can I debug it? I tried debug-on-entry but it is not working :S


 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM, 

Re: [Orgmode] suggestion: automatically recording entry creation date

[Tim O'Callaghan]

2009/11/3 Adam Spiers orgm...@adamspiers.org:
 Ilya Shlyakhter (ilya_...@alum.mit.edu) wrote:
 A frequently-needed task is to find recently created entries.  Right
 now I do this by manually pasting a date into each entry,
 and using the timeline agenda.
 Maybe, there are better ways?  E.g. have the option to automatically
 record a property, Creation-date, when an entry is created.
 There would be much clutter if every entry had a :PROPERTIES: line.
 But maybe there could be an option to hide the :PROPERTIES:
 lines completely, unless it contained some user-defined properties.

 Or, creation date could be stored as a text property, to avoid
 clutter, for long-running emacs sessions.   But it would be lost when
 the file is closed.
 Maybe at file-closing time it could be converted to a normal property
 in the :PROPERTIES: drawer.

 Or maybe there are other options?

 This would be useful to me too.  It would be valuable not just for
 finding recently created ones, but for sorting any generated list of
 entries by creation date.  This would for example make it easier to
 ensure that entries don't get stale with age.

 Bernt's approach is nice, but I agree that a completely clutter-free
 solution (i.e. :PROPERTIES: drawers completely hidden by default)
 would be extremely nice.


I have a :CREATED: LOGBOOK property set up in all of my remember templates:

(Task ?t
 * TODO %?\n:LOGBOOK:\n:CREATED:%U:\n:END:\n
 ~/org/0_inbox.org TASKS)

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] key bindings for quickly setting effort estimates

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Would it be possible to add something like this to the
org-fast-tag-selection-include-todo interface?

possibly with a list of properties to select from:
org-fast-tag-selection-include-properties '((EFFORT_All  ?e)
   (FOCUS_All  ?f))

So to select effort of 0:20 i'd type e 2 or similar?

Tim.

2009/11/3 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com:
 We do have `org-set-effort', bound to `C-c C-x e'.  You can use a prefix arg
 to get to a value directly.  But your approach is faster, if you have to do
 this a lot.

 - Carsten

 On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Adam Spiers wrote:

 I found myself needing a quick way of setting effort estimates outside
 column view, and came up with the following:

 ;; Zero effort is last (10th) element of global Effort_ALL property
 ;; so that we get zero effort when pressing '0' in the Effort column
 ;; in Column view, since this invokes `org-set-effort' with arg 0,
 ;; which stands for the 10th allowed value.
 (let ((effort-values
      (org-property-get-allowed-values nil org-effort-property)))
  (dotimes (effort-index 10)
   (let* ((effort (nth effort-index effort-values))
          (key-suffix (number-to-string
                (if (= effort-index 9) 0 (1+ effort-index
          (fn-name (concat org-set-effort-
                           (number-to-string effort-index)))
          (fn (intern fn-name)))
     ;; (message Binding M-o %s to %s which sets effort to %s
     ;;          key-suffix fn-name effort)
     (fset fn `(lambda ()
                 ,(format Sets effort to %s. effort)
                 (interactive)
                 (org-set-effort ,(1+ effort-index
     (global-set-key (concat \eo key-suffix) fn

 This assumes that Effort_ALL has 9 non-zero effort values, which in my
 case is conveniently true:

 (0:10 0:20 0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 4:00 8:00 16:00 0)

 Hope this is of interest.

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[Orgmode] Feature Request? #+CONFIG keyword - to abstract more configuration into org files,

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Simply,

Expand the #+KEYWORD in-org file configuration possibilities with
a #+CONFIG or similar keyword.

The idea being to abstract more configuration into actual org files,
and let extensions have an easy way to use #+KEYWORD configuration.  I
expect it could also be used to auto-load suitably registered
extensions/contributions.

So for example, my org-action-verb extension might use a line like:

#+CONFIG org-action-verb TODO|NEXT Address Ask Buy Change Clarify

Where there is handler function CONFIG:org-action-verb, that is
defined as auto-loadable and called with the rest of the line to
configure the extension.

I guess this mechanism could also be extended to abstract more
core-org configuration - such as agenda keys, stuck projects, or
whatever.

what do people think?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Feature Request? #+CONFIG keyword - to abstract more configuration into org files,

[Tim O'Callaghan]

2009/10/22 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com:

 On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Matt Lundin wrote:

 Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca writes:

 Tim O'Callaghan tim.ocallag...@gmail.com writes:

 Expand the #+KEYWORD in-org file configuration possibilities with
 a #+CONFIG or similar keyword.

 The idea being to abstract more configuration into actual org files,
 and let extensions have an easy way to use #+KEYWORD configuration.  I
 expect it could also be used to auto-load suitably registered
 extensions/contributions.

 So for example, my org-action-verb extension might use a line like:

 #+CONFIG org-action-verb TODO|NEXT Address Ask Buy Change Clarify

 Where there is handler function CONFIG:org-action-verb, that is
 defined as auto-loadable and called with the rest of the line to
 configure the extension.

 I guess this mechanism could also be extended to abstract more
 core-org configuration - such as agenda keys, stuck projects, or
 whatever.

 what do people think?

 Can you use the #+BIND: keyword to set arbitrary variables and achieve
 the same result?

 If I understand it correctly, #+BIND only works for export related
 variables.


 Nope, it works for any variables.  It is special that is *also* works for
 export variables, which is complicated because the *output buffer* is
 current when export happens, so local variables would be out of scope.

 - Carsten


The docs do not explain this. I'll look into it.


 For local options that are not part of the default in-buffer syntax, I
 use Local Variables. E.g.,

 ,
 | * COMMENT Local Variables
 | # Local Variables:
 | # org-footnote-section: References
 | # End:
 `


I'm using something similar at the moment, but i was thinking of a
mechanism that could also be used to load and initialise core and
contributed code without having to have a (require 'module) or an
(eval find org site-lisp) in the org file(s). I'm currently working
on getting someone else to track my org files, and i don't want to
have them track my .emacs as well. The auto-loading would be more
useful than  a unified abstraction of a configuration mechanism for
this.

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Searching inside of attachments (pdf, odt)?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

FWIW

I think this might be handled easier if all that happened would be a
grep on the attachments, or directories.

The usual grep interface can be used and then it becomes a fast
general purpose data mining extension.

I can see it being used to search a codebase or website for a text string.

I guess it could be further refined with some kind of dispatcher -
like the file dispatcher that invokes a specific tool to view an
attachment, except it uses an attachment specific search or defaults
to grep if its not an emacs editable file.

Possibly an extension fo the current file:text-file::in buffer
search , but uses this grep or whatever if it comes up against
something un-emacs-editable.

An added bonus of a search dispatcher type approach: it would give
users the chance to extend the search into whatever tool(s)/file
format(s) they are using without having to become core to org.

Just my 2eurocents worth:

Tim.
2009/10/13 Karl Maihofer ignora...@gmx.de:
 Hi Samuel,

 Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com schrieb:

 My idea is to use ordinary agenda search like this:
  1) agenda search displays the headline that has the
 attachment.
  2) org uses an alist to determine the correct textifier
 according to extension.  e.g. '((.pdf . pdf2text)).
  3) agenda searches normally (as if the contents of the
 attachment were body text).

 correct me if i'm wrong, but your approach is to search inside (an)
 already identified attachment(s)?

 I'd like to find attachments by searching inside the whole set of
 attachments. I do have many articles (pdf-files) to deal with. When i
 write a report on a special topic i have to find articles that are
 relevant to the topic i'm working on at the moment.

 If we use the standard textifiers the procedure will probably get very
 slow if there are many attachments. I think using an index would be a
 good idea.

 To describe what i'm looking for:
 My first step is to create an entry for each article, define tags
 (describing the content) and add some notes.

 * Title of the article   :tag:tag:tag:
  :PROPERTIES:
  :Attachments: article.pdf
  :ID: 387HJGJD78-758GZFHF87-JKHKJ57dfd9
  :END:
  - Very good explanation of X.
  - New view on Y.

 But it would be much more powerful to be able not only to find an
 entry by searching for tags but to search inside the attachments.

 I'm not a programmer, so sorry if my ideas are stupid. ;-) But i thing
 the following questions have to be answered:

 1) Is there a tool like Lucene that can index pdf-files as they are
   stored by orgmode (directory structure)?
 2) Is it possible to send a query to this tool from within emacs?
 3) Is it possible to import the answer of the tool into emacs and
   combine it with orgmode so that the result looks somehow like this:
   Search string 'XX' found in file 'article.pdf' attached to task
   'Title of the article'. A click on the name of the attachment
   should open the pdf-file in the pdf-reader; a click on the task
   name should show the task in the org-buffer.

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Re: [Orgmode] Do we still have XEmacs users?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

I've transitioned to Emacs 23, but I try and keep my .emacs viable for Xemacs.

Tim.


2009/10/9 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com:
 Do we still have XEmacs users around here?

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Re: [Orgmode] Change style of text/item based on tag

[Tim O'Callaghan]

I recently posted to the list org-action-verb.el, that used overlays
to highlight the first word of a headline if it was not an action
word. The same code can be adapted to do this.

Tim.

2009/10/7 Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 Is there a way to, based on tagging, to set the style of an item? For ex:

 * Projects
 ** My Project :PROJECT:
 *** SubProject :PROJECT:
  Action
 *** Action

 I would like My Project and SubProject to be in bold.

 Any hints/directions would be highly appreciated!

 Thanks,

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Re: A simpler remember architecture (was: Re: [Orgmode] Re: is there a hook to save a remember buffer?)

[Tim O'Callaghan]

+1, can we keep/have:
- the templates,
- possibility to 'pick file/topic first then remember'
- 'throw it into the bucket for later'.
- org - remember keymap
- local fontification?
- remove need to have remember package installed?

Tim.

2009/9/30 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com:
 I don't know what the others think

 ... but I think this is a brilliant idea.

 - Carsten

 On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:

 Hi Carsten,

 Here is an idea for a much simpler remember architecture that
 simultaneously solves Alan's problem.

  1) To me also, a more complicated way to deal with
    remember buffers feels wrong.
  2) If there is more than one thing you are working on, the
    power of the org hierarchy feels like the best way to
    keep track.

  3) The current remember probably does not do what Alan
    wants, even with a better workflow.
    - What if you want to remember from remember?
    - It feels complicated to finalize the old idea and go
      there, then remember the new one, then finish the old
      one, then go back to where you were.  Maybe we can
      simplify.
    - When you've finished the old one, you want to restore
      context to before the old idea.  This is probably
      impossible.  The stack is blown.
  4) Other issues:
    - If you forget to finalize, you lose data.
    - It is easy to reflexively call remember from remember,
      making you surprised that the old idea disappeared.
    - You might forget that you had the old idea.
      Especially if you are having short-term memory issues
      or are distracted.

  5) Here is my idea: discard the concept of remember
    buffers entirely.
    - Create the entry at the target location when you call
      org-remember.
    - Employ a virtual buffer to narrow to the created
      entry.

  6) Some benefits:
    1) Alan can remember, then remember again, then
       remember a third time without having to save
       remember buffers or name them (which he would need).
    2) Your idea is where it should be.  If you want
       context, you simply remove the narrowing.
    3) org has access to the target buffer's buffer-local
       variables, org variables, encoding and multilingual
       settings of the target, etc.
    4) Auto-save saves to a place where Emacs will pick it
       up again if Emacs crashes.
    5) A backup directory is no longer necessary to restore
       data from a killed (remember) buffer.
    6) Finalizing is no longer a matter of losing your data
       if you forget.  It merely pops windows.

  7) If you still want the concept of I am not done
    remembering this remember, add a tag (:REMEMBERING:)
    at creation time and have org-remember-finalize remove
    that tag.  To see in-progress remembers, call the
    agenda on that tag.

  8) This eases yak shaving.
    - http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Y/yak-shaving.html
    - This is a simple way to keep track of what you were
      doing when you remember from remember.
    - I recommend making org-remember-finalize use a
      /stack/, so that successive invocations recreate the
      previous window/buffer context until they get to the
      original context.
    - I think that we intuitively work in stacks.  This
      lets us avoid overloading our own memory.
    - If Emacs crashes, the worst thing that will happen is
      that you end up with a bunch of :REMEMBERING: tasks
      around your org files.  Not lost data.

 To summarize, the current remember naturally leads to the
 need for increasing workarounds, and therefore requests for
 features, which leads to more complexity.  By leveraging the
 power of the org hierarchy, we can simplify, and get yak
 shaving support as a nice surprise benefit.

 Let me know what you think.


 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 02:37, Carsten Dominik
 carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Allen,

 saving remember buffers is hackish and complex as it is, so I am not
 going
 to add this option.

 I think the workflow has to be this:

 Create a remember buffer and more-or-less immediately file it.

 If you need to work on the content for a longer time, work on it at the
 target location:  Simply exit remember with C-u C-c C-c.  The buffer will
 be
 filed and the target location will be visited immediately.  So now you
 can
 work there as long as you want, and start another remember process when
 you
 need one.

 HTH

 - Carsten

 On Sep 9, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote:

 I've looked briefly into the org-remember.el.  A hook exists:
 remember-mode-hook.  Im not sure it can be successfully applied to the
 case
 I envision.

 THere are tradeoffs to immediately saving a remember buffer to a file,
 and
 editing a note in the remember buffer, then saving with
  remember-finalize.
  I don't remember what they are, as they led me away from immediately
 saving
 quite a while ago. I was strongly encouraged by the establishment of a
 procedure to automatically save to a directory, any remember 

Re: A simpler remember architecture (was: Re: [Orgmode] Re: is there a hook to save a remember buffer?)

[Tim O'Callaghan]

 - 'throw it into the bucket for later'.

 what does that mean?

Kind of works as remember now. Currently you have a 'default save to
point' for a particular template. I would guess that most people just
throw it all into the one 'bucket' and sort it out later.


 - org - remember keymap

 Why do you need this?

I don't use the C-0-, C-1, whatever. I have my own keys mapped for the
remember buffer. I use C-X c-s for org-remember-finalize for example,
which may cause conflicts.


 - local fontification?

 Why do you need this?

I plan on expanding on the 'keeping me honest' idea, Which i am still
working on and will turn into a contrib. I want to use fontification
for malformed headings etc as warnings in unfilled remember
templates. For example, to highlight an empty/malformed effort
property. I suspect it would be easier, and faster to apply on a
per-template/buffer basis, rather than the whole org-file.


 - remove need to have remember package installed?

 That need does not exist even now.


I was having trouble recently with a lack of remember. A problem in my
config, which I've just fixed. Thanks for pointing it out.

Possibly make remember editing a minor mode? That would allow for any
extra keymaps and fonrification and such wouldn't it?

Tim.

 - Carsten


 Tim.

 2009/9/30 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com:

 I don't know what the others think

 ... but I think this is a brilliant idea.

 - Carsten

 On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:48 PM, Samuel Wales wrote:

 Hi Carsten,

 Here is an idea for a much simpler remember architecture that
 simultaneously solves Alan's problem.

  1) To me also, a more complicated way to deal with
   remember buffers feels wrong.
  2) If there is more than one thing you are working on, the
   power of the org hierarchy feels like the best way to
   keep track.

  3) The current remember probably does not do what Alan
   wants, even with a better workflow.
   - What if you want to remember from remember?
   - It feels complicated to finalize the old idea and go
     there, then remember the new one, then finish the old
     one, then go back to where you were.  Maybe we can
     simplify.
   - When you've finished the old one, you want to restore
     context to before the old idea.  This is probably
     impossible.  The stack is blown.
  4) Other issues:
   - If you forget to finalize, you lose data.
   - It is easy to reflexively call remember from remember,
     making you surprised that the old idea disappeared.
   - You might forget that you had the old idea.
     Especially if you are having short-term memory issues
     or are distracted.

  5) Here is my idea: discard the concept of remember
   buffers entirely.
   - Create the entry at the target location when you call
     org-remember.
   - Employ a virtual buffer to narrow to the created
     entry.

  6) Some benefits:
   1) Alan can remember, then remember again, then
      remember a third time without having to save
      remember buffers or name them (which he would need).
   2) Your idea is where it should be.  If you want
      context, you simply remove the narrowing.
   3) org has access to the target buffer's buffer-local
      variables, org variables, encoding and multilingual
      settings of the target, etc.
   4) Auto-save saves to a place where Emacs will pick it
      up again if Emacs crashes.
   5) A backup directory is no longer necessary to restore
      data from a killed (remember) buffer.
   6) Finalizing is no longer a matter of losing your data
      if you forget.  It merely pops windows.

  7) If you still want the concept of I am not done
   remembering this remember, add a tag (:REMEMBERING:)
   at creation time and have org-remember-finalize remove
   that tag.  To see in-progress remembers, call the
   agenda on that tag.

  8) This eases yak shaving.
   - http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Y/yak-shaving.html
   - This is a simple way to keep track of what you were
     doing when you remember from remember.
   - I recommend making org-remember-finalize use a
     /stack/, so that successive invocations recreate the
     previous window/buffer context until they get to the
     original context.
   - I think that we intuitively work in stacks.  This
     lets us avoid overloading our own memory.
   - If Emacs crashes, the worst thing that will happen is
     that you end up with a bunch of :REMEMBERING: tasks
     around your org files.  Not lost data.

 To summarize, the current remember naturally leads to the
 need for increasing workarounds, and therefore requests for
 features, which leads to more complexity.  By leveraging the
 power of the org hierarchy, we can simplify, and get yak
 shaving support as a nice surprise benefit.

 Let me know what you think.


 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 02:37, Carsten Dominik
 carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Allen,

 saving remember buffers is hackish and complex as it is, so I am not
 going
 to add this option.

 I think the 

Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: Keeping me honest

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Attached is a working implementation of the idea.

So, in GTD each 'next action' is supposed to be an actual doable
thing to further the project it is associated with.

When creating next actions or project headlines there is sometimes
a tendency to use a heading that is a bit vague/undoable. This is
usually a sign that the task the headline represents needs more
thinking about and will probably need more than one next action or
spawn another project.

org-action-verbs was created to use a list of GTD 'action verbs' to
diagnose non-functional next action and project headlines. It searches
for headlines of a specific TODO type and checks to see if the first
word in the headline is specified as an action verb for that TODO
type. If not, then it highlights that first non actionable word.

Its a bit like flyspell mode but for checking doable org headlines.

To use put the following in your .emacs:
(require 'org-action-verbs)

To change the default TODO Type-Action Verb table you can set
'org-action-todo-verbs'. Below is an example. The first checks for the
right spaceship name associated with the 'SPACESHIP' TODO type, and
the right colour for the 'COLOR' and 'COLOUR' TODO types.

- note the Action verbs are case sensitive.

(setq org-action-todo-verbs
   '(
 ((SPACESHIP) . (Challenger Voyager Enterprise Nostromo
Apollo ))
 ((COLOUR COLOR) . (Red Yellow Green Aquamarine Blue Black))
 )

The current default mappings are based on David Allen's GTD verb list:

Verbs for the TODO types TODO and NEXT -

Address Ask Avoid Buy Change Clarify Collect Commend
Confront Consider Create Decide Defer Develop Discard
Do Again Download Enter File Follow Up Hire Improve
Increase Inform Inquire Enquire Maintain Measure Monitor
Order Paint Phone Prioritize Prioritise Purchase
Question Reduce Remember Repair Reply Report Research
Resolve Review Schedule Sell Send Service Specify
Start Stop Suggest Tidy Train Update Upgrade Write

Verbs for the TODO type PROJECT -
Finalize Finalise Resolve Handle Look-Into Submit Maximize Maximise
Organize Organise Design Complete Ensure Research Roll-Out Update
Install Implement Set-Up

Enjoy,

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: Keeping me honest

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Below is my first attempt at this. It breaks normal org font-locking
though, my font-lock foo is not up to much at the moment. I'm sure its
something simple, but i cannot see it.

Any ideas where I'm going wrong?

Tim.

(defface org-action
  'class color) (background light)) (:foreground green :underline t))
(((class color) (background dark)) (:foreground green :underline t))
(t (:underline t)))
  Used by org-action-font to help distinguish good 'actionable' headlines.)

(defvar org-action-todo-keywords
  '(TODO NEXT)
  org-action todo keywords to apply to action fonts to)

(defvar org-action-todo-highlight-words
  '(Address Ask Avoid Buy Change Clarify Collect
Commend Confront
Consider Create Decide Defer Develop Discard Do
Again Download
Enter File Follow Up Hire Improve Increase Inform Inquire
Maintain Measure Monitor Order Paint Phone
Prioritize Purchase
Question  Reduce Remember Repair Reply Report
Research Resolve
Review Schedule Sell Send Service Specify Start
Stop Suggest
Tidy Train Update Upgrade Write)
org-action fontification keywords )

(defun org-mode-action-hook ()
  Initalise org-mode helper stuff.
  (interactive)
  (setq org-action-todo-keywords-regexp
(concat ^\\*+[ ]+ (regexp-opt org-action-todo-keywords 'words)
[  ]+ (regexp-opt org-action-todo-highlight-words 
'words)))
  (setq org-action-font-lock-keywords
`(
  (,org-action-todo-keywords-regexp 2 org-action-face t)))

  (font-lock-add-keywords nil org-action-font-lock-keywords)
  )

;; Turn on 'keeping it honest' font locking.
(add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-mode-action-hook)


2009/8/5 Jonathan Arkell jonath...@criticalmass.com:
 This is a great idea!

 I was thinking about something similar, but my ideal implementation would 
 enforce more granular discipline:

 If the user is on a TODO item and hits Enter, moves up or down, or sets the 
 TODO state of the todo item (to a not done state), then the enforcer kicks 
 in, and does a check against a list of known good and known bad words.  
 During this process a small buffer would pop up, showing the text of the TODO 
 item and any errors that popped up.

 This secondary buffer would have keybindings similar to the tags interface, 
 TAB to edit the todo item directly to fix the problem and enter to accept it 
 as is, and maybe alpha-numerics to enter keywords

 If bad words show up in the todo item, then the enter key has a y/n 
 confirmation behind it.  (This TODO Item seems unactionable, are you sure 
 you want to use it?)

 What are bad words?  A project verb in a TODO keyword I would consider bad, 
 but it should be customizable per keyword and per todo item.

 A few options I can think of:
 - Don't Process enforce if  the todo item has checkboxes in it
 - Loose enforcement, don't bug the user at all, only use agenda functionality.
 - Strict enforcement, don't let the user enter out of confirmation

 I saw a similar list to the one you have on P218 of Making it all Work 
 (David Allen)

 Right now this is all sitting in my Long term ideas for Org Mode 
 headline...  So I hope to get to it by the next decade. :p

 -Original Message-
 From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org 
 [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org] On Behalf 
 Of Tim O'Callaghan
 Sent: August 3, 2009 7:47 AM
 To: org-mode
 Subject: [Orgmode] Feature Request: Keeping me honest

 Hi, I'm not sure how/if these are implemented or implementable.

 * Keeping Me honest

  When i outline a project, sometimes there are points that are
  ambigiously stated. Being neither actions or titles, they can slip
  through the cracks. So i've been thinking of a feature that would be
  similar to the stuck projects indicator. This would be a set of
  words that would naturally follow a TODO or similar, to indicate
  that the title has some honesty to it. Its to enforce a kind of GTD
  verb in every actionalble outline title.

  Implementation wise, i was thinking this could be a word list
  associated with a todo or tag. That list would then be used to font
  lock the first word of an outline header. e.g.

  wrong * TODO foobar compatibility needed for something
    vs
  right * TODO change feature X of something so that it works with foobar

  Either the first word, and/or the whole line would be highlighted a
  different colour. GTD words are not the only use for a feature like
  this. It might be used to highlight that a bug ID is needed in a
  FIXME heading with a regexp ID#[0-9]+ associated to the keep me
  honest field.

  Not sure where i picked this list up from but here are some example
  GTD words to test with:

 *** PROJECT todo-type outline action verbs
 Finalize, resolve, handle, look into, submit, maximize, organize,
 design, complete, ensure, research, roll out, update, install,
 implement, set-up

 *** TODO todo-type next action verbs
 Address, ask, avoid, buy, change

Re: [Orgmode] [PATCH] Open single link immediately

[Tim O'Callaghan]

FWIW it should be back up on monday.

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/85019

Tim.

2009/8/30 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com:
 This will be in the next push, when our repository is online again.

 Thanks!

 - Carsten

 On Aug 28, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote:

 C-c C-o on a headline or in the agenda displays a menu of links to
 choose from.  If there is only a single link then go there directly
 skipping the menu.
 ---
 This patch is available at git://git.norang.ca/org-mode.git for-carsten

 lisp/org.el |   31 ---
 1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)

 diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
 index a5181ab..f3d8976 100644
 --- a/lisp/org.el
 +++ b/lisp/org.el
 @@ -8073,21 +8073,22 @@ needed for the interpretation of abbreviated
 links.
        (push (match-string 0) links))
      (setq links (reverse links))
      (unless links (error No links))
 -
 -      (unless (and (integerp nth) (= (length links) nth))
 -       (save-excursion
 -         (save-window-excursion
 -           (delete-other-windows)
 -           (with-output-to-temp-buffer *Select Link*
 -             (princ Select link\n\n)
 -             (mapc (lambda (l) (princ (format [%d] %s\n (incf cnt) l)))
 -                   links))
 -           (org-fit-window-to-buffer (get-buffer-window *Select Link*))
 -           (message Select link to open:)
 -           (setq c (read-char-exclusive))
 -             (and (get-buffer *Select Link*) (kill-buffer *Select
 Link*
 -       (setq nth (- c ?0)))
 -
 +      (if (eq 1 (length links))
 +         (setq c 1)
 +       (unless (and (integerp nth) (= (length links) nth))
 +         (save-excursion
 +           (save-window-excursion
 +             (delete-other-windows)
 +             (with-output-to-temp-buffer *Select Link*
 +               (princ Select link\n\n)
 +               (mapc (lambda (l) (princ (format [%d] %s\n (incf cnt)
 l)))
 +                     links))
 +             (org-fit-window-to-buffer (get-buffer-window *Select
 Link*))
 +             (message Select link to open:)
 +             (setq c (read-char-exclusive))
 +             (and (get-buffer *Select Link*) (kill-buffer *Select
 Link*))
 +      (setq nth (- c ?0))
 +
      (unless (and (integerp nth) (= (length links) nth))
        (error Invalid link selection))
      (setq link (nth (1- nth) links)
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[Orgmode] Feature Request: Keeping me honest

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi, I'm not sure how/if these are implemented or implementable.

* Keeping Me honest

  When i outline a project, sometimes there are points that are
  ambigiously stated. Being neither actions or titles, they can slip
  through the cracks. So i've been thinking of a feature that would be
  similar to the stuck projects indicator. This would be a set of
  words that would naturally follow a TODO or similar, to indicate
  that the title has some honesty to it. Its to enforce a kind of GTD
  verb in every actionalble outline title.

  Implementation wise, i was thinking this could be a word list
  associated with a todo or tag. That list would then be used to font
  lock the first word of an outline header. e.g.

  wrong * TODO foobar compatibility needed for something
vs
  right * TODO change feature X of something so that it works with foobar

  Either the first word, and/or the whole line would be highlighted a
  different colour. GTD words are not the only use for a feature like
  this. It might be used to highlight that a bug ID is needed in a
  FIXME heading with a regexp ID#[0-9]+ associated to the keep me
  honest field.

  Not sure where i picked this list up from but here are some example
  GTD words to test with:

*** PROJECT todo-type outline action verbs
Finalize, resolve, handle, look into, submit, maximize, organize,
design, complete, ensure, research, roll out, update, install,
implement, set-up

*** TODO todo-type next action verbs
Address, ask, avoid, buy, change, clarify, collect, commend confront,
consider, create, decide, defer, develop, discard, do again, download,
enter, file, follow up, hire, improve, increase, inform, inquire,
maintain, measure, monitor, order, paint, phone, prioritize, purchase,
question, reduce, remember, repair, reply, report, research, resolve,
review, schedule, sell, send, service, specify, start, stop, suggest,
tidy, train, update, upgrade, write.

Tim.


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[Orgmode] Re: org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 16/02/2009, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote:
 Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:

   On Feb 15, 2009, at 11:18 PM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
  

  The usage of org-install has the pre-requisite of having to compile
   the org.el files. This is no use to people like myself, who want to
   use the same .el files in XEmacs and Emacs due to incompatible .elc
   problems. Its also no use to people who do no have a build system or
   make binary installed e.g. windows users, locked down linux/unix
   systems etc.
  
   How about adding a skeleton org-install.el that gets overwritten by
   the make?
  
   org-install.el is part of the distribution tar and zip files.
   I cannot include it into the git repo because the git people tell
   me that it is a bad idea to keep a product file under git
   control (Bernt?).


 The main reason this is a bad idea in git master branch is that the file
  gets automatic changes on different systems and looks modified after
  each time you run make.  This file gets in the way of other (real)
  changes since git thinks the working tree is dirty and prevents changing
  branches, rebasing, or merging with a dirty tree.  The contents of the
  org-install.el file are uninteresting and really does not belong in the
  tracked files for the project since it is a product of the build
  procedure.

  If you want a skeleton org-install.el in the tar/zip files then you
  probably should generate that when producing the tar/zip files.


  -Bernt


That is a fair point, its usually counter productive to put a build
product under revision control.

So for the sake of those looking for an example one, you'll find a
generated example attached, for V6.23b

I wonder if it is possible to implement a mechanism to check the
'freshness' of the org-install? say embedding the org-version number
it was created with, and org checking to see if it is compatible, or
needs updating?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed

[Tim O'Callaghan]

  This is what I have done extensively in the manual, but this has not
  kept people from doing (require 'org) in .emacs.

  I have been fighting hard to get people to use (require 'org-install),
  so I did not want to punish them when they move to Emacs 23 and want
  to use the Emacs version.  Admittedly, this is not very likely.

  Also, I do want to keep the option that org-install will do more than
  just install autoloads.

  So while I don't have strong feelings about removing org-install
  from Emacs again, I cannot really see the point either.

  - Carsten


The usage of org-install has the pre-requisite of having to compile
the org.el files. This is no use to people like myself, who want to
use the same .el files in XEmacs and Emacs due to incompatible .elc
problems. Its also no use to people who do no have a build system or
make binary installed e.g. windows users, locked down linux/unix
systems etc.

How about adding a skeleton org-install.el that gets overwritten by the make?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Installing on windows

[Tim O'Callaghan]

  Obviously, I do not fully understand the initialization sequence for
  EmacsW32.  Could someone using EmacsW32 throw some more light on a
  better procedure/technique to install Org-mode on it?


Hi,

I run the same installation of org in Xemacs  Emacs on Windows+Cygwin
 Linux/Unix.

Currently i have these native versions installed:
* GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2008-06-30 on
LENNART-69DE564 (patched)
* XEmacs 21.4 (patch 21) Educational Television [Lucid]
(i586-pc-win32) of Sun Oct 07 2007 on VSHELTON-PC2

The basic technique is:
1) do not compile any source to EL files.
2) make sure the HOME environmental variable is set correctly.
3) use the (expand-filename) function, and relative filenames. It
makes everything work cross platform.

Here is an quick walk through my (X)Emacs setup.

My .emacs:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(defconst toc:zemacsen-dir ~/.zemacsen_d/
  Path to xemacsen root directory and the init.el file)
(defconst toc:zemacsen-site-lisp-dir (concat toc:zemacsen-dir site-lisp/)
  Path to (x)emacs lisp includes)

(load (expand-file-name (concat toc:zemacsen-dir init)))
--8---cut here---end---8---

Notice the ~/ unix style relative paths? expand-filename converts that
into the value of your HOME environmental variable. This must be set
for Cygwin, but is also useful for other unixlike tools.

so if  HOME=C:\home\, this code loads the file
C:\home\.zemacsen\init.el which is my real (x)emacs configuration
file.

I then have a function that does something like:
--8---cut here---start-8---
 (add-to-list 'load-path (expand-file-name (concat
toc:zemacsen-site-lisp-dir org-mode/lisp)))
 --8---cut here---end---8---

Which places c:/home/.zemacsen_d/site-lisp/org-mode  at the
beginning of the load-path list, trumping any other installation. You
can check with alt-x describe-variable load-path  to make sure it's
at the start of the load-path list.

Here is the function and its org usage:
--8---cut here---start-8---
(defun toc:add-to-load-path (dirlist)
  (dolist (dir dirlist load-path)
(setq dir (expand-file-name (concat toc:zemacsen-site-lisp-dir dir)))
(if (file-directory-p dir)
(add-to-list 'load-path dir

(toc:add-to-load-path '(org-mode/lisp/
org-mode/contrib/lisp/
org-mode/xemacs/
remember/))

;; Initialize org
(cond ((featurep 'xemacs)
   (require 'noutline)
   (require 'ps-print-invisible)))

(require 'org)
 --8---cut here---end---8---

I have a similar setup for exec-path, to make sure my preferred
windows binaries are found before the windows system ones.

--8---cut here---start-8---
(defun toc:add-to-exec-path (dirlist optional front)
  (dolist (dir dirlist exec-path)
(setq edir (expand-file-name dir))
(setq qdir (shell-quote-argument (expand-file-name dir)))
(message Testing PATH:= %s dir)
(cond ((file-directory-p dir)
   (add-to-list 'exec-path dir front)
   (message Searching PATH:= %s -- %s (regexp-quote dir)
(getenv PATH))
   (unless (string-match (regexp-quote dir) (getenv PATH))
 (message Adding PATH:= %s\n dir)
 (if front
 (setenv PATH (concat dir path-separator (getenv PATH)))
   (setenv PATH (concat (getenv PATH) path-separator dir
 --8---cut here---end---8---

I'm sure its not pretty (or optimised) but, what can i say but that so
far it works for me (almost) everywhere.

hope that helps.

Tim.


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[Orgmode]

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Latley i have been getting this error, and i cannot track it down. The
closes i have come is to find out it's somewhere in the org mode
startup, and it only occurs during the Xemacs startup, works fine for
Emacs.

I get this error:
--
(1) (initialization/error) An error has occurred while loading
g:\home\tim\.emacs:

Malformed list: :background

To ensure normal operation, you should investigate the cause of the error
in your initialization file and remove it.  Use the `-debug-init' option
to XEmacs to view a complete error backtrace.
--

And from the Recent minibuffer messages (most recent first):
--
Error in init file: Malformed list: :background
Loading gnus-xmas...done
Loading gnus-xmas...
Loading g:\home\tim\.zemacsen_d\configs\org-remember_config...
--

If i try and use -debug-init, i still get the error but no traceback.

The best guess i have been able to make is that the problem is in one
of these files:
org-colview-xemacs.el
org-faces.el
though it could be in something included.

XEmacs 21.4 (patch 21) Educational Television [Lucid]
(i586-pc-win32) of Sun Oct 07 2007 on VSHELTON-PC2
latest git version of org.

Any ideas/pointers as to where to look next?

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Has anyone had any luck with XEmacs and these git modes?

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: [ANN] Org Invoice 1.0.0

[Tim O'Callaghan]

I think he means:

http://www.newartisans.com/software/ledger.html

Tim.

2008/12/6 Peter Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark A. Hershberger) writes:
 Now, if I can just figure out how to integrate invoicing and ledger

 Is ledger an application, or some additional org functionality you want?

 --
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[Orgmode] Org Remember hooks?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

I want to change/add to the remember mode key-map but i'm having some
problems reverting them.
That's because the remember buffer is actually org-mode in disguise,
the keys stay mapped after the remember mode buffer is closed.

Is it possible to localise the org-remember mappings, or supply a post
org-remember hook?

The function that causes trouble:
(defun toc:remap-remember-keys ()
  (define-key (current-local-map) [(control x) (control s)] 'remember-finalize)
  (define-key (current-local-map) [(meta k)]'remember-destroy))
(add-hook 'remember-mode-hook 'toc:remap-remember-keys 'append)


Cheers,

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Re: [Orgmode] org-mode and git

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Also does anyone have a working Xemacs git support?

Tim

2008/10/22 Richard Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi folks,

 I had used bog standard RCS behind vc before (works fine for little
 stand alone projects), but recently loaded up the vc-git.el and added it
 to the supported backends for vc but some problems trying to update my
 org-mode install using it. Is it mature enough for this.

 What, if any, git interface for emacs do you guys recommend?


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Re: [Orgmode] About latex export

[Tim O'Callaghan]

For the Latex users, I feel i should also point out this tool called
Plans Unfolding.
http://www.myreckonings.com/PlansUnfolding

I've not had a chance to play with it properly, but it uses latex
templates for all of its reports, so might be a handy resource/tool

Tim.

2008/9/8 Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Nick,

 please see

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/7684/

 On Sep 8, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:

 Hello,

 While fiddling with latex export, I wondered if there was a variable to
 specify some more packages that should be added the code produced — i.e.
 I'd like to add \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} everytime.

 I could somehow manage to write a function adding it after exporting the
 code — maybe with the help of a hook — but I can't help thinking it
 would be messier.

 On another topic, it looks like the latex export process doesn't play
 well with the description environment. In fact,

 - a :: first
 - b :: second

 is rendered as

 \begin{itemize}
 \item a :: first
 \item b :: second
 \end{itemize}

 Odd, isn't it ?

 Not odd, description lists have not yet been implemented in the LaTeX
 exporter.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Mail files in org

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

Now that Gmail uses statefull mail links, has anyone implemented
linking to Gmail conversations with org?

cheers,

Tim.

2008/8/28 Richard G Riley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Russell Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 05:45:38PM +0200, Richard G Riley wrote:

 Gnus supports maildir too although recently I moved to an IMAP server
 which accesses the maildir format created with procmail on my mail
 server.


 I've recently reorganized my folders to be served up by Dovecot so I
 can access my maildir inside VM with Thunderbird. A great hack, and
 Mutt compatible!

 I did use Mutt for a while but being an emacs user I took the plunge and
 went Gnus and never looked back. All the things you are familiar with
 integrate nicely (flyspell, org-mode etc). And, of course, Gnus merges
 the concept of usenet and email which is great when you get it all
 sorted out and configured to your liking. But now its starting to sound
 like I am pimping  Gnus. But as an emacs user I would recommend you take
 the plunge again and retry Gnus.

 I don't do usenet, and I use emacs as the message editor for Mutt. I
 do use BBDB with Mutt via LBDB.

 Perhaps I should review Gnus again, any good references or screenshots
 of it in operation?

 One little picture here showing email and usenet groups with group
 specific colouring and then content highlighting with non empty folders.

 http://richardriley.net/default/projects/images/gnus_scr.png

 and a link to my .gnus here

 http://richardriley.net/default/projects/emacs/

 Using the built in help function on that files contents would be a big
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: 1-way syncing with google calendar (was Re: .ics export violates RFC2445)

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Cool - just caught up with this.

If you check the archives i had a very basic google-org solution using w3.

I stopped using it when i moved back to Emacs, guess its time to dig it out :)

Tim.

2008/5/28 Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 02:02:01PM -0700, Cezar Halmagean wrote:
 Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 10:55:57PM +0100, Adam Spiers wrote:
  I'm going to restart gcaldaemon shortly - if it works then orgmode can
  boast unidirectional non-interactive syncing with google calendar! (as
  opposed to repeatedly importing an .ics file manually, which is very
  tedious).
 
  Hooray, it works!  org-icalendar-force-UID + gcaldaemon gives nice
  unidirectional non-interactive syncing with google calendar.  Here's a
^^
 Always remember to read the small print ;-)

  snippet from the log:
 
 DEBUG | Updating event ( test thing!) in Google Calendar...
 DEBUG | Synchronization finished.
 DEBUG | Starting Google Calendar synchronizer...
 DEBUG | Connecting to Google...

 Does this work both ways ? org - google and google - org ?

 No, just org - google as per above.

 See also http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/6817

 Can you provide your changes/settings ?

 The only setting is org-icalendar-force-UID as mentioned above.
 Configuration of gcaldaemon is straightforward, and it should work out
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Re: [Orgmode] emacs IDE and org

[Tim O'Callaghan]

2008/5/9 Rockefeller, Harry [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is anyone using org mode in a software development process? An IDE, emacs is
 no exception, assumes the source code is primary, having tools and methods
 to edit source code files but not org files.  org files, however, appear to
 have all those other features desired in a development process: todo items,
 requirements specifications, reference links, tabular and spreadsheet data,
 etc.  Export of various parts of the org file at different times of
 development may coincide with software process milestones.



I use Emacs for development, and have used Org to group together file
links and notes
for various projects.


 Org to source code seems straight forward via QUOTE, for example.  From
 source to org may be set up using special 'org import' markers such as

 //* Top item

 //  bla bla

 //** Sub item

 // bla bla

 where the cpp source comment character may get snipped off to use source to
 generate an org file.  Either the source or the org file may be primary.  Or
 maybe the org file is primary early in this process and eventually is
 replaced by source toward the end?


This sounds a bit like you want to use org for something like
Literate Programming?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Org 6.01 and XEmacs

[Tim O'Callaghan]

This is fixed for me, thanks.

Tim.

On 14/04/2008, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Apr 14, 2008, at 7:08 PM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:


  As far as i can tell the problem i see under XEmacs is to do with the
  use of the :help
  keyword in easy-menu-define. XEmacs does not support this keyword, and
  so breaks org mode start-up.
 


  I have just released 6.01a which should fix this problem, and some of the
 problems
  with Emacs 21, maybe not all, please keep the reports coming.

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[Orgmode] Where to get org v6.00-pre5?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

Like the new look for the orgmode.org site, but there is a problem
with the distribution links. The site proclaims the current version as
6.00-pre5, but the link to download points to 5.23a.

Tim.


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[Orgmode] Re: Where to get org v6.00-pre5?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Unfortunately the Git repo is impractical, as i can only access it from home.

Tim.

On 11/04/2008, Bernt Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tim O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Like the new look for the orgmode.org site, but there is a problem
   with the distribution links. The site proclaims the current version as
   6.00-pre5, but the link to download points to 5.23a.


 Org-mode version 6.00pre-5 is available in the git repository.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Where to get org v6.00-pre5?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Git cloning is something i will look into.

But back to my original point. The distribution version on the orgmode
website is not as advertised. In this case: advertised is v6.00-pre5
downloadable is v5.23a.

If the v6.00-pre5 version is a development version only available from
the git repo then a website change might be in order?

Tim.

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 Tim O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  Unfortunately the Git repo is impractical, as i can only access it from 
  home.
  
   Tim.
  

 You could put a bare clone on a USB stick take it to work and clone from
  that.

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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode versus Taskpaper - now for real

[Tim O'Callaghan]

To be honest when i first read it i thought it was a good idea. I saw
it as an extension of your splitting the big org file into the smaller
include files in the git repo.


  What people miss when they are new to Org-mode is this:

  Don't try to set up the final task managing system from the
  start.  Because you have no idea yet what your system should look
  like.  Don't set up many TODO states and logging initially,
  before you actually have a feeling for what you working flow is.
  Don't define a context tag @computer just because David Allen
  has one, even though you are sitting at a computer all the time
  anyway!  Start by creating and managing a small TODO list and
  then develop your own system as the needs arises.  I wrote
  Org-mode to enable this development process.


I think a way to address this in Org-Mode would be to start with a
chapter explaining what Org-mode is about and an example of how to use
the very basic TODO functionality. A single file TODO project,
probably based around cooking a recipe or something. Then in later
chapters you could apply the new feature(s) described by expanding on
the initial use-case.

Also with that use-case as a baseline we could generate an appendix of
usage/best practices or whatever, for the clock-in-out-people, the
print every day people, one big ass text file people etc

I for one would be interested in knowing how other people use
org-mode, and always on the look out for interesting tweaks.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: problems cloning the org mode git repo

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Tried it at home. seems to be an issue with the corporate firewall.

Tim.

On 19/03/2008, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
   Still broken for me.
  
/tmpgit clone git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /tmp/org-mode/.git/
repo.or.cz[0: 62.24.64.27]: errno=Connection timed out
fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out)
fetch-pack from 'git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git' failed.
  
Tim.
  


 lappy:~/elisp/org-mode $ uname -a
  CYGWIN_NT-5.1 326001553L 1.5.25(0.156/4/2) 2007-12-14 19:21 i686 Cygwin

  lappy:~/elisp/org-mode $ date
  Wed Mar 19 17:43:15 IST 2008

  lappy:~/elisp/org-mode $ git pull
  remote: Counting objects: 51, done.
  remote: Compressing objecremote: ts: 100% (20/20), done.
  remote: Total 43 (delta 26), reused 40 (delta 23)
  Unpacking objects: 100% (43/43), done.
  From git://repo.or.cz/org-mode
96e02e3..07ced08  master - origin/master
  Updating 96e02e3..07ced08
  Fast forward
   ChangeLog |   52 +
   Makefile  |3 +-
   ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/faq.html   |  663 -
   ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/index.html |  420 
   ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/qanda.html |  449 -
   ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/survey.html| 2169 
 -
   ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/todo.html  |  965 --
   ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/tutorials.html |   21 -
   org-bbdb.el   |   94 ++
   org-gnus.el   |  127 +++
   org-info.el   |   79 ++
   org-mhe.el|  211 
   org-rmail.el  |  107 ++
   org-vm.el |  129 +++
   org-wl.el |  117 +++
   org.el|  598 ++--
   16 files changed, 1003 insertions(+), 5201 deletions(-)
   delete mode 100644 ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/faq.html
   delete mode 100644 ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/index.html
   delete mode 100644 ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/qanda.html
   delete mode 100644 ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/survey.html
   delete mode 100644 ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/todo.html
   delete mode 100644 ORGWEBPAGE/tmp/tutorials.html
   create mode 100644 org-bbdb.el
   create mode 100644 org-gnus.el
   create mode 100644 org-info.el
   create mode 100644 org-mhe.el
   create mode 100644 org-rmail.el
   create mode 100644 org-vm.el
   create mode 100644 org-wl.el

  lappy:~/elisp/org-mode $ make
  emacs -batch -q -eval (progn (add-to-list (quote load-path) \.\)
  (add-to-list (quote load-path) \/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\))
  -f batch-byte-compile org.el

  In end of data:
  org.el:28646:1:Warning: the following functions might not be defined at
 runtime: calendar-forward-day, parse-time-string, calendar-goto-date,
 calendar-goto-today, calendar-iso-date-string,
 calendar-julian-date-string, calendar-astro-date-string,
 calendar-hebrew-date-string, calendar-islamic-date-string,
 calendar-french-date-string, calendar-bahai-date-string,
 calendar-mayan-date-string, calendar-coptic-date-string,
 calendar-ethiopic-date-string, calendar-persian-date-string,
 calendar-chinese-date-string
  org.el:28646:1:Warning: the following functions are not known to be defined:
 add-local-hook, table--at-cell-p, dired-get-filename, mouse-set-point,
 org-gnus-follow-link, bibtex-generate-autokey, bibtex-beginning-of-entry,
 bibtex-parse-entry, bibtex-url, remember-finalize, remember,
 remember-buffer-desc, add-to-diary-list, cdlatex-tab, clear-image-cache,
 org-export-latex-cleaned-string, speedbar-line-directory
  Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org.elc
  emacs -batch -q -eval (progn (add-to-list (quote load-path) \.\)
  (add-to-list (quote load-path) \/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\))
  -f batch-byte-compile org-bbdb.el

  In end of data:
  org-bbdb.el:95:1:Warning: the following functions are not known to be 
 defined:
 bbdb-record-name, bbdb-current-record, bbdb-record-getprop, bbdb-name,
 bbdb-company, bbdb

  [ snipped lots of compile lines]

  Generating autoloads for org-wl.el...done
  Generating autoloads for org-install.el...
  Generating autoloads for org-install.el...done
  Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org-install.el
  emacs -batch -q -eval (progn (add-to-list (quote load-path) \.\)
  (add-to-list (quote load-path) \/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp\))
  -f batch-byte-compile org-install.el
  Wrote /home/zms/elisp/org-mode/org-install.elc

  Everything seems fine here.


  -- Manish



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Re: [Orgmode] problems cloning the org mode git repo

[Tim O'Callaghan]

I'm getting the same problem using cygwin git.

Tim.

On 18/03/2008, Jose Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I tried to get the git repo by cloning and I got the following error. I'm
 just getting into git as well... So what am I doing wrong?

  Thanks,



  git clone http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git org-repo
  Initialized empty Git repository in
 /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/
  error: Could not interpret response from server '?xml version=1.0
 encoding=utf-8?
  !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
  html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en-US lang
  /users/jrobins/apps/bin/git-clone: line 474: cd:
 /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/refs/remotes/origin:
 No such file or directory
  Warning: Remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.

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[Orgmode] Re: problems cloning the org mode git repo

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Still broken for me.

/tmpgit clone git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git
Initialized empty Git repository in /tmp/org-mode/.git/
repo.or.cz[0: 62.24.64.27]: errno=Connection timed out
fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection timed out)
fetch-pack from 'git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git' failed.

Tim.

On 18/03/2008, Bernt Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try using this URL instead:

 git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git

  as in

  $ git clone git://repo.or.cz/org-mode.git


  -Bernt


  Tim O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I'm getting the same problem using cygwin git.
  
   Tim.
  
   On 18/03/2008, Jose Robins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
I tried to get the git repo by cloning and I got the following error. I'm
   just getting into git as well... So what am I doing wrong?
  
Thanks,
  
  
  
git clone http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git org-repo
Initialized empty Git repository in
   /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/
error: Could not interpret response from server '?xml version=1.0
   encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN
   http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en-US lang
/users/jrobins/apps/bin/git-clone: line 474: cd:
   /mnt/users/jrobins/src/org-repo/.git/refs/remotes/origin:
   No such file or directory
Warning: Remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout.
  
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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode on Windows

[Tim O'Callaghan]

I personally run the XEmacs windows native port.
http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32/index.html

I've tried the cygwin terminal and X versions and find i prefer the
native version.

There is an up to the minute windows Emacs port:
http://ntemacs.sourceforge.net/

Which i am evaluating, but yet to use in anger.

Tim.

On 14/03/2008, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Everyone,

  I would like to which terminal clients people use to run Cygwin Emacs
  (on Windows) to run org-mode.  PuTTY with ssh, PuTTY with puttycyg
  patch, rxvt, mrxvt, xterm or something else.  For some reason, I will
  have to remove Windows Emacs and Cygwin port in PuTTY does not support
  shift-arrow keys (it passes the combination as plain arrow keys).

  I am very interested to know if there's another key combination that
  can be used instead of shift+arrow or if someone is aware  of a
  patched PuTTY that does work.

  I found that xterm and rxvt do support shift+arrow key chord but mrxvt
  does not (which is strange considering it's built on top of rxvt).  If
  I have to use X then I would prefer to use mrxvt (tabbing, window
  resizing etc., though no real fullscreen like PuTTY's).

  Suggestions and advice please.

  Thanks
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[Orgmode] bug: Xemacs problem with editing headings with compressed contents

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi.

There is some problem with tags and headings. I've had instances where
the tag has disappeared or merged into my heading.

Repeatable with Xemacs 21.4.19 i586-pc-win32, org 5.22a using this fragment:
-

* REAEARCH memory problems on oxo50 :proj:
*** WAIT korstian to organise a meeting.
-

If i try to add the S into the heading when it is folded, then it
generates the error Visible portion of buffer not modifiable.
Debugger gives:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error Visible portion of buffer not modifiable)
  move-to-column(70 t)
  (progn (setq tags (match-string 2)) (goto-char (match-beginning 1))
(insert  ) (delete-region (point) (1+ ...)) (backward-char 1)
(move-to-column (max ... ... ...) t) (insert tags) (move-to-column
(min ... col) t))
  (if (and (looking-at ...) ( pos ...)) (progn (setq tags ...)
(goto-char ...) (insert  ) (delete-region ... ...) (backward-char 1)
(move-to-column ... t) (insert tags) (move-to-column ... t))
(goto-char pos))
  (let ((pos ...) (col ...) tags) (beginning-of-line 1) (if (and ...
...) (progn ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...) (goto-char pos)))
  org-align-tags-here(70)
  (if (and (equal ... ?*) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-align-tags-here
org-tags-column))
  (when (and (equal ... ?*) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-align-tags-here
org-tags-column))
  org-fix-tags-on-the-fly()
  (if (and (org-table-p) (progn ... t) (eq N 1) (looking-at [^|\n]*
|)) (let (org-table-may-need-update) (goto-char ...)
(delete-backward-char 1) (goto-char ...) (self-insert-command N))
(setq org-table-may-need-update t) (self-insert-command N)
(org-fix-tags-on-the-fly))
  org-self-insert-command(1)
  call-interactively(org-self-insert-command)
  recursive-edit()
  debug(error (error Visible portion of buffer not modifiable))
  move-to-column(70 t)
  (progn (setq tags (match-string 2)) (goto-char (match-beginning 1))
(insert  ) (delete-region (point) (1+ ...)) (backward-char 1)
(move-to-column (max ... ... ...) t) (insert tags) (move-to-column
(min ... col) t))
  (if (and (looking-at ...) ( pos ...)) (progn (setq tags ...)
(goto-char ...) (insert  ) (delete-region ... ...) (backward-char 1)
(move-to-column ... t) (insert tags) (move-to-column ... t))
(goto-char pos))
  (let ((pos ...) (col ...) tags) (beginning-of-line 1) (if (and ...
...) (progn ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...) (goto-char pos)))
  org-align-tags-here(70)
  (if (and (equal ... ?*) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-align-tags-here
org-tags-column))
  (when (and (equal ... ?*) (org-on-heading-p)) (org-align-tags-here
org-tags-column))
  org-fix-tags-on-the-fly()
  (if (and (org-table-p) (progn ... t) (eq N 1) (looking-at [^|\n]*
|)) (let (org-table-may-need-update) (goto-char ...)
(delete-backward-char 1) (goto-char ...) (self-insert-command N))
(setq org-table-may-need-update t) (self-insert-command N)
(org-fix-tags-on-the-fly))
  org-self-insert-command(1)
  call-interactively(org-self-insert-command)

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] emacs on the N800

[Tim O'Callaghan]

 Now, OS2008 can work in host-mode (I have tested it myself). This
 means you can attach any external keyboard. Some people have luck with
 the apple bluetooth keyboard. I own a bluetooth IPaq keyboard (but I
 haven't been able to connect it to it under OS 2008). So when I really
 need to use emacs, I can always connect a real keyboard. Not ideal for
 standing up, but way more practical than a virtual keyboard when
 sitting.


AFAIK the Apple BT keyboard, is a standard BT HID device. I tested it
myself against my cell phone. I also tested that weird laser keyboard,
but it requires some setup-configuration to work properly and AFAIK
the config client is windows only. I have a thinkoutside BT HID
profile keyboard and it works fine with my n800. I even have a
nonstandard 'freedom' BT keyboard, but i saw that it can be added with
some mucking about in xmodmap i think.

A 'real' USB keyboard could be added, you need to flip the usb into
host mode - which can be done in debug mode. The problem is it needs
to be externally powered. The n800 does not have the USB power line
connected - probably because it was designed as a client device.

I would be interested in playing with emacs and org on an n800 as
well, but without a keyboard, i just don't see it being any use.

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Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request - Active and inactive links.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 11/12/2007, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Tim,

 thanks for the details.  I think I got confused because I couldn't
 understand what you mean by a link being processed when compiling
 the agenda.  Now I understand that it means some kind of inclusion.

 So the issue seems twofold:

 1. the first issue is about *including* external Org files (or other
external resources, although I'm not sure to understand what does
that mean);


Yes and no. by *including* external resources i was thinking
remote org files, and things (local or remote) that can be
converted into something usable by org Agenda (only an org file
AFAIK). I use an Ical URL as an example because i use google
calendar, but the Ical link could be local. Or it could be a
nag, remind, an outlook export or whatever.

 2. the second issue is that of *processing* links to external resources
when using your Org file as a source for other purposes (agenda view,
export, etc.)


Yes. My idea was essentially, when i ask org to create an agenda
buffer, it knows to auto-pull and process each all of these
active links, so as to be able to display them in my Agenda.

 I think both issues are very interesting but should be carefully (and
 maybe separately) thought.

 You're speaking about a link that would include the targeted Org file
 into the list of agenda files.  Then attaching meta-data to this link,
 you would control how the building of the agenda should process the link
 (adding category, etc.)

 Some example of what we could do:

 - a link to an Org file that should be considered part of the master
   file (at any time: agenda view, export, etc.)  This could be a new
   link type like org:

   org:~/home/org/header.org


What is a Master file in this context?

 - a link to a file that should be included for specific export:

   #+BEGIN_LaTeX
   org:~/home/org/latex_footer.org
   #+END_LaTeX

   or maybe, if it's not ambiguous:

   org:latex:~/home/org/latex_footer.org


Not quite. Though i can see how some might have use for the
export specific org file include.

 - a link to a file that should only be processed in agenda views:

   org:agenda:~/home/org/other-todo.org

 - ... and maybe only for a specific agenda view

   org:agenda:n~/home/org/other-todo.org (n being the name of the
   command key in org-agenda-custom-commands)

 Where you thinking of something like that?


Something similar to the last one.

 I'm not sure on how to integrate your idea about specifying categories,
 and I doubt this is particularly relevant: the links already belong to
 entries that will be categorized.


Well the category is more like a category override. If you
consider an imported org: link that is not created by you, then
it may have a different flavor. The adding - or probably better
- superseding of category/meta information gives you the
knowledge needed to search for imported todos for example.

 I'm not sure although about your example with iCal.  Do you think it
 could fit with the picture above?


After thinking about it, for external resources, it would be
better to specify a new active link type per resource type
Ical: for example.  Also the meta data might be better if
specified per link type to or in the processing code.

 Thanks for this neat idea.  I'm sure we're getting somewhere...


Not sure how neat it is, but i know I'll use it :)

Tim.


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[Orgmode] Feature Request - Active and inactive links.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 10/12/2007, Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Tim,

 Tim O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Currently Org mode supports links like:
   http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik
   file:/home/dominik/images/jupiter.jpg
   news:comp.emacs
   etc
 
  I would like to propose the concept of 'Active' links, based on
  the above. The idea being that some links are marked such that
  when Org is building an agenda, it includes these links as if they
  were in the org-agenda-files list.

 It's been a while since you posted this message... I think I
 don't really understand the core idea here.  Can you elaborate a
 bit more?  What kind of information do you want to attach to
 links?  what for?  in what context should this information be
 displayed?  processed?
 Thanks for providing further details!


Sorry if i was unclear, I thought my examples would it explain most of
it, my bad.

Here it is in more detail. :)

The core idea - Active links - is a link that specifies a
resource (usually remote) that will be included (and possibly
preprocessed) when you compile an agenda. They should look and
act like normal links, but be handled differently when an agenda
is compiled.

Where this idea came from.

I have a hacked together function that i use (see my rusty elisp
below) that creates org-files from ical URLs. I use this to
include my google calendar and other published events in my
agenda.

With the addition of org-add-link-type (described in Appendix
A-2 in the org manual), i could create a link type that would
convert an ical link to an org file on opening. This is great,
but i could not then auto-include that in buffed file in my
agenda without saving it and adding it to org-agenda-files.

What would be needed would be some kind of flag or indicator
that the link should be processed when creating an agenda
buffer. It would need to be assumed that the link is, or will be
preprocessed into, an org file.

This led me to consider the consequences of an 'Active Link' and
how to make it a more general and flexible concept.

* The Agenda is not passive, it modifies its source files.
= This could be mitigated using meta-tagging of read only
resources. Another more finicky method could be a file of
negative or modification assertions that change or remove a read
only link before inclusion in the Agenda. Possibly a table of
specific org node search links that replace the target with the stored org node.

* The Agenda only processes the org-agenda-files list.
= Let org build the list recursively from active links with one
org-file as the head of the tree. This would have the benefit of
letting you build different agendas based on the first org file
referenced. Note - might need to force read only active links to
be leaf nodes (i.e not recurse into them).

* The Active Link referenced is no longer an agenda item.
= If you remove the org file or its link from the within agenda,
you change the Active Link to an inactive link globally. That
is, in all of the linked files in the current org-agenda files
list.

* What if you open an active link from an org-mode buffer?
= Undecided possibly configurable? I would say open the link in
its natural state.

* What use is a an active link to a remote read-only org file?
= Collaboration. I can think of many scenarios, but the one i
like is where my wife can just update a text file or blog post
or whatever to update my agenda.

* How would you represent an active link so it is obvious?
= An active link could be prefixed by a + sign, possibly with
embedded meta information for the agenda.

Some possible examples:
- read/write remote org file for collaboration (efs/angeftp)
 +file:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/me/personal.org
- read only remote org file for collaboration in category work
 +work+http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/remote.org
- read only remote ical file of local whats-on information.
+whatson+ical:http://upcoming.yahoo.com/calendar/v2/place/upI5ACueA5szd_8-

The +category+ link prefix idea is because + can be part of a URL.

* Where could you go from here?
= The concept could be extended to allow further integration to
other tools using to-org and from-org pre and post
processing. Using my ical hack for an example, it could possibly
be extended to a read/write WEBDAV link. Say for Outlook or
Sunbird integration.


So thats the idea in more detail, hope it clarifies the idea further...

Tim.

-- Google Calendar hack --
(setq google-ical-org-list
 '(
  ; removed personal links, but left a working public ical link.
  ; each ical link consists of:
  ;(ical link
  ; ical link download target file
  ; org file created - must be in org-agenda-files)
  (http://upcoming.yahoo.com/calendar/v2/place/upI5ACueA5szd_8-;
   ~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarSync/UpComing.ics
   ~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarSync/Upcoming.org)))

(defun toc:goggle-to-org ()
  get a google calendar and convert it into org dates
  (interactive)
  (with-temp-buffer
;; initialise calendar handling

[Orgmode] Feature Request - Active and inactive links.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

This is something i have been pondering for a while, and after
seeing the recent discussion on links from org files, thought i
would put forward for discussion. It is an attempt to kill two
birds with one stone. The first is collaboration, the second is a
selective trigger mechanism for generating Agenda items.

Currently Org mode supports links like:
 http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik
 file:/home/dominik/images/jupiter.jpg
 news:comp.emacs
 etc

I would like to propose the concept of 'Active' links, based on
the above. The idea being that some links are marked such that
when Org is building an agenda, it includes these links as if they
were in the org-agenda-files list.

An active link could be prefixed by a + sign, possibly with
embedded metainformation for the agenda.

Some possible examples:
-  read/write remote org file for collaboration via efs/angeftp
 +file:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/me/personal.org
- read only remote org file for collaboration in category work
 +work+http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/remote.org
- read only remote ical file of local whats-on information.
 +whatson+ical:http://upcoming.yahoo.com/calendar/v2/place/upI5ACueA5szd_8-

Some thought would need to be put into how agenda handles read
only links. In a collaborating read only situation, a masking or
supplementing mechanism might be needed.

This mechanism could conceivably be used to auto-build
org-agenda-files by traversing the active links.

What do people think?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] undo in org.el

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 13/11/2007, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dammit, if I only had know about this earlier!  I implemented
 multibuffer undo for the agenda, sort-of by hand.  This looks much
 easier, but on this other hand it will not work on XEmacs.

 Sometimes I wander how many XEmacs users are out there, and if it is
 still worth supporting it


 - Carsten


If that was a call to Xemacs users to identify themselves, then here
is one. Even though it is in the Emacs CVS tree now should not turn it
into an Emacs only tool IMHO.

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Re: [Orgmode] property searches for #+CATEGORY

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 07/11/2007, Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have several personal .org files, and several work-related ones too.
 In each personal file, I have a line:

   #+CATEGORY: personal

 and in each work-related file, I have a line:

   #+CATEGORY: work

 I would like to be able to bind agenda custom commands to do tag
 searches which are narrowed to one of these categories, e.g. show me
 all personal priority #A tasks.  Such a search needs to span *all*
 agenda files, therefore the standard per-buffer narrowing provided by
 the '' binding in the *Agenda Commands* buffer is insufficient.

 Would it make sense to include CATEGORY as a special property?  After
 all, pretty much all other per-task meta-data (TODO, PRIORITY
 etc.) are already available via the property interface, and this way,
 I could easily achieve what I need with tag searches such as

   CATEGORY=personal+PRIORITY=A

 Thanks!


It would seem to me that this is exactly what tags does.
You could move everything down a level and use tag inheritance:
* personal stuff :personal:
* work stuff :work:

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Re: [Orgmode] property searches for #+CATEGORY

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 07/11/2007, Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 02:59:35PM +0100, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
  On 07/11/2007, Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 02:23:12PM +0100, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
It would seem to me that this is exactly what tags does.
You could move everything down a level and use tag inheritance:
* personal stuff :personal:
* work stuff :work:
  
   I could, but this would mean that each file would have a single
   top-level entry, and the entire contents would be indented an extra
   level, which I fear is a rather unattractive solution!
 
  It's the technique i've been using, and yes, it is unattractive.
 
  When i thought of tags, it was not explicitly for GTD context
  specifier, it was also for adding searchable metadata to a todo node.

 Same here.  I used tags for a lot more than GTD contexts, e.g. also
 for a rough ETC and to group them by areas of responsibility.
 (N.B. Sometimes a task can be motivated by multiple areas of
 responsibility, so subheadings aren't good enough.)

  How about adding the context to the tag table with a prefix character, say 
  #?

 I don't follow you, sorry.  Perhaps I should state explicitly that my
 need to distinguish between 'work' and 'personal' categories has
 nothing to do with my use of GTD contexts.  I can (and do very often)
 work from home, and I also occasionally(!) do personal tasks from the
 office.


My point with the taxonomy is that Categories especially 'personal'
and 'work' can be thought of as Meta Contexts (i wanted to say
Meta-TAGS, but that might get confusing). So contexts that are
arbitrary but are used to group many actual physical contexts (TAGS)
of todo nodes.

The '#' was the thought that if you treat Categories as a type of tag,
then you could add them to the tag search mechanism. To avoid
collision, such as work - the physical context and work, the category,
prefix them with a meta-character such as # which cannot normally be
in a tag name.

So a categorised tag-todo search might be:
#work+work+email/TODO

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Org Remember idea

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 06/11/2007, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On  6Nov2007, at 5:42 PM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

  I've started using Remember mode more and more, and it has given me an
  idea for new piece of functionality.
 
  %c - insert clipboard/kill-ring at point
 
  This is for 'auto' pasting links or snippets of text from my browser
  into an org file.
 
  What do you think?

 I think it is a good idea, but may backfire.  The current-kill can be
 HUGE
 if you do not watch out.  Maybe limited to a certain lengths?

 - Carsten


I say dealers choice? a warning if its over 30 lines or so for those
that are new to it? I mean i should know what is in the clipboard
before i hit the remember key.

Another idea that i have been thinking about is 'remember-here'  or
'remember at point' where i can use a remember template to insert in
the current line in the current buffer. Either using the current
remember mode templates or another separate one, it could be argued
either way.

as for terminal vs X, that is quite tricky, but %c could be disabled
in windowing environments.

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Re: [Orgmode] Org Remember idea

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 06/11/2007, Tim O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 06/11/2007, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On  6Nov2007, at 5:42 PM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
 
   I've started using Remember mode more and more, and it has given me an
   idea for new piece of functionality.
  
   %c - insert clipboard/kill-ring at point
  
   This is for 'auto' pasting links or snippets of text from my browser
   into an org file.
  
   What do you think?
 
  I think it is a good idea, but may backfire.  The current-kill can be
  HUGE
  if you do not watch out.  Maybe limited to a certain lengths?
 
  - Carsten
 

 I say dealers choice? a warning if its over 30 lines or so for those
 that are new to it? I mean i should know what is in the clipboard
 before i hit the remember key.

 Another idea that i have been thinking about is 'remember-here'  or
 'remember at point' where i can use a remember template to insert in
 the current line in the current buffer. Either using the current
 remember mode templates or another separate one, it could be argued
 either way.

 as for terminal vs X, that is quite tricky, but %c could be disabled
 in windowing environments.

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Re: [Orgmode] Org Remember idea

[Tim O'Callaghan]

sorry - i mean disabled in non-windowing environments.

On 06/11/2007, Tim O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 06/11/2007, Tim O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 06/11/2007, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On  6Nov2007, at 5:42 PM, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
  
I've started using Remember mode more and more, and it has given me an
idea for new piece of functionality.
   
%c - insert clipboard/kill-ring at point
   
This is for 'auto' pasting links or snippets of text from my browser
into an org file.
   
What do you think?
  
   I think it is a good idea, but may backfire.  The current-kill can be
   HUGE
   if you do not watch out.  Maybe limited to a certain lengths?
  
   - Carsten
  
 
  I say dealers choice? a warning if its over 30 lines or so for those
  that are new to it? I mean i should know what is in the clipboard
  before i hit the remember key.
 
  Another idea that i have been thinking about is 'remember-here'  or
  'remember at point' where i can use a remember template to insert in
  the current line in the current buffer. Either using the current
  remember mode templates or another separate one, it could be argued
  either way.
 
  as for terminal vs X, that is quite tricky, but %c could be disabled
  in windowing environments.
 
  Tim.
 



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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode to PDA export

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 24/09/2007, Ian Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any trick we can use to sync em both ways ?
Some ideas that come to mind are : email and chop the email or some
kind of web service that can sit on the laptop (web server).
 

 I have an E61 (Symbian). I have given up any sort of automatic syncing.
 However, I have a cron job that publishes my org files to html on my
 local web server, so I can easily refer to it.

 For longer trips away, I take my laptop and/or email my org file to my
 phone. If I don't have access to a computer I find it easier to just
 treat the org file as a reference and not try and edit it.

 The third method I quite often use is to ssh into my server and edit
 using emacs in a terminal. I usually carry a USB stick with things like
 Putty, so if I can borrow someone else's computer I can still edit the
 file on my server.

 Does anyone know if it's possible to install emacs on a usb stick in a
 way that it's possible to just plug into almost any Windows computer and
 run  it?

 Ian.


You'll probably need to write a COM/CMD file that sets EMACS_HOME to
the drive the USB stick is mapped to. It should also append to the
PATH the native Emacs tools, and set HOME properly so that it can read
your .emacs

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] org-mode PDAs

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 18/09/2007, Daniel M German [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Jason Cezar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I would like to know if there are any PDA or Smartphone devices to
   use with org-mode, and be able to sync between them with ease.

  Jason Not entirely serious:  has anyone ported emacs to the N800 or OpenMoko
  Jason yet?

 I have a N800 and I haven't found a port yet, so I would need to try
 to build it myself. My goal is to get emacs-nox running on the N800,
 and then run it from an Xterm. Unfortunately the lack of a keyboard
 will make it difficult to use.

 On the other hand I can already use rsync or SVN to synchronize the
 files with n800. So for people who are willing to work with a regular
 text editor this is not a too-bad-approach.

 --dmg


I have an N800 too, but to be honest, even with a BT keyboard, emacsen
would be pushing it. At the moment, for me at least, PDA's, phones etc
are good for reading and reviewing of tasks/actions or whatever and as
an 'inbox' for text/voice remember notes. At least if you want to use
org-mode as your canonical repository of tasks.

To get a PDA to interact/sync properly with Org mode, you'd need
native tools that understand org mode files and could update the PDA's
native TODO/Calandar/Contact/whatever information via its own API's.

In the book Getting Things Done, David Allen says that it is not the
tool you use, as much as it is how easy it is for you to be able to
use it to GTD. PDA's, even running emacs, would are too cumbersome to
be effective at Org GTDing without *org specific* tools IMHO.

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[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 05/09/07, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you mean for interactive use, to be able to specify the regexp at
 the prompt?
 Or in an org-agenda-custom-command?


I meant an org-agenda-custom-command, but it might be useful at the
command prompt.

Tim.

 - Carsten

 On Sep 5, 2007, at 11:46, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I keep a list of Project and Next Action verbs in my org file. When i
  am creating a Next Action or Project headline i try and use these
  verbs to help keep the language project and action focused.
 
  For example my current lists are:
 
   Project Verbs ---
  | Finalize | Resolve   | Handle   | Examine | Submit |
  | Maximize | Organize  | Complete | Ensure  | Update |
  | Install  | Implement | Set-up   | Design  |
 
   Next Action Verbs 
  | Call  | Organize | Review | Buy   | Fill out | Find |
  | Purge | Examine  | Gather | Print | Take | Load |
  | Draft | Email|
 
  'Focus Mode' is essentially the same concept as the stuck projects
  idea. A tool to help me keep projects on track by ensuring that i use
  more action oriented language for headlines . This is mostly for
  tasks, but can be used for projects too.
 
  I was thinking another agenda search type might do it for me.
  Something like tags-todo-occur. Like tags-todo, but with a header
  regexp as well.
  Example Syntax: +-Tag/+-Todo:header Regexp
 
  It is general enough to be able to be used by others, but i can also
  use it to create my Agenda Focus mode. As i could not find any
  mechanism like this i thought i would suggest it, to see if other
  people might find it useful.
 
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Re: [Orgmode] Agenda Focus Mode - An Agenda Idea.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 05/09/07, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sep 5, 2007, at 15:23, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

  On 05/09/07, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Do you mean for interactive use, to be able to specify the regexp at
  the prompt?
  Or in an org-agenda-custom-command?
 
 
  I meant an org-agenda-custom-command,

 Check Appendix A5, near the end if it, there are examples on how to use
 `org-agenda-skip-function', and it includes the option to
 select on or against a regular expression.  You need something like

 (org-agenda-skip-function
   '(org-agenda-skip-entry-if 'notregexp ^\\*+\\Resolve\\))

 Note that I have anchored the regexp at the beginning of the headline
 with
 ^\\*+, to make sure that it only matches in the headline and not
 somewhere
 in the tree.

Thanks, I shall play with this.

For the record, i did look at Appendix5, but notregexp was not
mentioned. Could you add it to the A5 Examples?

This is a close approximation to what i want to do, and should be
useful for focusing next actions. Checking Projects would require tag
inheritance i think.


   but it might be useful at the
  command prompt.

 This is currently not possible.


Ok.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: iCal Import - updated code Bug report

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Its not a google calendar based bug. It happens when the referenced
org file has no headings. If you add a file with a %% diary entry and
no '* heading' to your agenda file list, it should crop up when you
try to look into diary entry file from agenda.

On the google calendar side, you select 'calendar settings' from the
drop down menu beside the calendar, or select the calendar from the
manage calendar page. On the resulting page you should see 'public'
and 'private' ical icons. Select the private one and a url will pop up
in a window.
That is the url value to use in the 'google-ical-org-list'.

You can also use public iCal links. I have added below some public
calendars that i use, that you might also find useful, and that also
generate this bug.

(setq google-ical-org-list
 '(
   (http://upcoming.yahoo.com/calendar/v2/place/upI5ACueA5szd_8-;
~/CalendarSync/UpComing.ics
~/CalendarSync/Upcoming.org)
   (http://www.kagankalender.com/calendarics.php;
~/CalendarSync/GothInd.ics
~/CalendarSync/GothInd.org)
   ))

Hope it helps,

Tim.

On 20/06/07, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to find this bug and have made a google agenda.
How do I know which url to use to download it?  Can you guide me
through this?

Thanks.

- Carsten
On Jun 20, 2007, at 0:52, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

 Another Xemacs bug i think, If the org file does not contain a line
 with a headline, such as those generated by the code. It causes the
 error:
 (1) (error/warning) Error in `post-command-hook' (setting hook to
 nil): (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p nil)

 The previous code assumes the ical export worked, below fixes that.

 Tim.
  code 
 (defun toc:goggle-to-org ()
  get a google calendar and convert it into org dates
  (interactive)
  (with-temp-buffer
(let* ((glist google-ical-org-list))
  ;; iterate through list
  (while (setq entry (pop glist))
(setq google-ical-url (car entry) local-ical-file (nth 1
 entry) local-date-file (nth 2 entry))
;; Delete the diary local files
(if (file-exists-p local-ical-file) (delete-file
 local-ical-file))
(if (file-exists-p local-date-file) (delete-file
 local-date-file))
;; Get ical file
(w3-download-url google-ical-url (expand-file-name
 local-ical-file))
;; convert to diary without leading 
(icalendar-import-file local-ical-file local-date-file t)
;; iCalendar leaves the buffers open
(if (find-buffer-visiting local-date-file) (kill-buffer
 (find-buffer-visiting local-date-file)))
(if (find-buffer-visiting local-ical-file) (kill-buffer
 (find-buffer-visiting local-ical-file)))

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Re: [Orgmode] iCal Import

[Tim O'Callaghan]

The code could be adapted to write iCal information, but AFAIKT Google
does not allow WEBDAV write operations. At the moment i am using
Google Calendar as my main appointment calendar, and org mode for
scheduling tasks etc.

If you want to sync to an iCal WEBDAV source an example of how its
done can be seen here:
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ElDav

You can only write to a Google Calendar with by using its gData
ATOM/RSS based protocol. There are some free client libraries, but i
have not looked into it in much detail.

Tim.

On 20/06/07, Rick Moynihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm quite excited by the Google calendar/iCal integration.  I had
previously written a simple Ruby script (I really need to learn elisp)
to parse an org-mode file for dates and schedule some at jobs to fire
another script to fire events into Twitter, which I was subsequently
using as a free SMS reminder service.

It worked quite well in simple tests, but I've never bothered to develop
it further, primarily because it occured to me that google calendar
supports free SMSing of notifications and that this could potentially be
tied into org-mode with the g-client code.

It seems that your code is about getting gcal into org-mode where as the
above would require the reverse.  Obviously the ideal would be to have
some level of two-way Calendar synchronisation.  Though this might be
far too complex and messy, how about allowing some kind of emacs based
copy/paste between them (in both directions)?

The thought of managing myself in org-mode and syncing to Gcal when I
want to share/expose my calendar to others is a tempting proposition; I
imagine this coupled with SMS reminders would be great.

Anyway, as my elisp skills are no more advanced than being able to copy
and paste fragments of elisp; I thought I'd post my ideas to see whether
anyone else finds them interesting enough to implement.

R.

Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
 HI,

 below is a bit of a hack i've come up with to attempt to read my
 google calendar into my org agenda. I originally started it using
 eldav, but i realised i don't have a webdav server to sync to. At the
 moment, It only works for entries that icalendar-import-file converts
 to %%(add something).

 The org docs imply that that is the only diary entry type that it can
 process, is this the case?

 Tim.

 --- code snip ---
 (require 'w3)
 (require 'icalendar)

 (setq google-ical-org-list
  '(
(http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/basic.ics;
 ~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarPersonal.ics
 ~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarPersonal.org)
(http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/basic.ics;
 ~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarShared.ics
 ~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarShared.org)
))

 (defun toc:goggle-to-org ()
  get a google calendar and convert it into org dates
  (interactive)
  (with-temp-buffer
(let* ((glist google-ical-org-list))
  ;; iterate through list
  (while (setq entry (pop glist))
(setq google-ical-url (car entry) local-ical-file (nth 1
 entry) local-date-file (nth 2 entry))
;; Delete the diary local files
(if (file-exists-p local-ical-file) (delete-file local-ical-file))
(if (file-exists-p local-date-file) (delete-file local-date-file))
;; Get ical file
(w3-download-url google-ical-url (expand-file-name local-ical-file)
   ;; convert to diary without leading 
(icalendar-import-file local-ical-file local-date-file nil)
   ;; iCalendar leaves the buffers open
(kill-buffer (find-buffer-visiting local-date-file))
(kill-buffer (find-buffer-visiting local-ical-file))

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Re: [Orgmode] iCal Import

[Tim O'Callaghan]

It would seem that the author of g-client is already an org mode user.
At least there is an org file in the source distribution. So it might
include org integration at some point.

Tim

On 20/06/07, Rick Moynihan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think you're right about Google not accepting WEBDAV write operations,
and their gData protocol is definitely the way to go for now.  The
g-client code I mentioned is an Emacs lisp library providing integration
with a variety of Google services including Gcal.

http://emacsgeek.blogspot.com/2007/03/updates-to-g-client.html

You can download it from it's svn repository:

http://emacspeak.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/lisp/g-client/

And there is a google group for the project here:

http://groups.google.com/group/emacs-g-client/

R.

Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
 The code could be adapted to write iCal information, but AFAIKT Google
 does not allow WEBDAV write operations. At the moment i am using
 Google Calendar as my main appointment calendar, and org mode for
 scheduling tasks etc.

 If you want to sync to an iCal WEBDAV source an example of how its
 done can be seen here:
 http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/ElDav

 You can only write to a Google Calendar with by using its gData
 ATOM/RSS based protocol. There are some free client libraries, but i
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[Orgmode] Problem with ascii export + possible useful search.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 19/06/07, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Jun 15, 2007, at 15:26, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:

 Hi,

 It seems that under Xemacs the ascii export just appends the new
 export to the contents of the old export. If you have the old export
 buffer open already then it inserts the new export into the old file
 at the cursor.

I am not able to reproduce this.  Anyone?



After some more investigation, i think it has to do with the
buffer/file not being erased before the ascii is rendered. It works
for html export, it does not for txt export. Not sure why this should
be, the code i looked at seems to try to clear the buffer.

Latest org mode, Xemacs for windows native: 21.4 (patch 19) \Constant
Variable\ XEmacs Lucid



 The useful search i have started using, is similar to the GTD stuck
 projects one. The search produces a view of stuck to-dos. That is a
 list of todos that have been designated without a context. At the
 moment i am using something like this in my
 org-agenda-custom-commands:
 (- tags-todo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@/X
 nil )

 where X is what i use to denote a TODO entry.

Nice!  Does this contain all your tags, or only a selection?
You might be able to write this using a regular expression.



only a selection. I use 5 groups of tags for active projects.
The first group just contains @proj - the active projcet tag. This  is
used with the second group @home|@work which are inherited by all of
the active projects in the two huge org files i use for home and work.
The last three groups are generally @physical context group ,
activity context group@, and possible duration context@ which i
combine depending on the task.

I did think of a regular expression, the docs mention its possible,and
give a small example, but i  couldn't get it to do what i wanted
straight away, and didn't want to spend the time figuring it out. I
considered suggesting a group name/selection type, but it seemed a bit
fiddly.

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[Orgmode] iCal Import

[Tim O'Callaghan]

HI,

below is a bit of a hack i've come up with to attempt to read my
google calendar into my org agenda. I originally started it using
eldav, but i realised i don't have a webdav server to sync to. At the
moment, It only works for entries that icalendar-import-file converts
to %%(add something).

The org docs imply that that is the only diary entry type that it can
process, is this the case?

Tim.

--- code snip ---
(require 'w3)
(require 'icalendar)

(setq google-ical-org-list
 '(
   (http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/basic.ics;
~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarPersonal.ics
~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarPersonal.org)
   (http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/basic.ics;
~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarShared.ics
~/gettingThingsDone/CalendarShared.org)
   ))

(defun toc:goggle-to-org ()
 get a google calendar and convert it into org dates
 (interactive)
 (with-temp-buffer
   (let* ((glist google-ical-org-list))
 ;; iterate through list
 (while (setq entry (pop glist))
   (setq google-ical-url (car entry) local-ical-file (nth 1
entry) local-date-file (nth 2 entry))
   ;; Delete the diary local files
   (if (file-exists-p local-ical-file) (delete-file local-ical-file))
   (if (file-exists-p local-date-file) (delete-file local-date-file))
   ;; Get ical file
   (w3-download-url google-ical-url (expand-file-name local-ical-file)
  ;; convert to diary without leading 
   (icalendar-import-file local-ical-file local-date-file nil)
  ;; iCalendar leaves the buffers open
   (kill-buffer (find-buffer-visiting local-date-file))
   (kill-buffer (find-buffer-visiting local-ical-file))
   
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[Orgmode] Re: iCal Import - updated code Bug report

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Another Xemacs bug i think, If the org file does not contain a line
with a headline, such as those generated by the code. It causes the
error:
(1) (error/warning) Error in `post-command-hook' (setting hook to
nil): (wrong-type-argument integer-or-marker-p nil)

The previous code assumes the ical export worked, below fixes that.

Tim.
 code 
(defun toc:goggle-to-org ()
 get a google calendar and convert it into org dates
 (interactive)
 (with-temp-buffer
   (let* ((glist google-ical-org-list))
 ;; iterate through list
 (while (setq entry (pop glist))
   (setq google-ical-url (car entry) local-ical-file (nth 1
entry) local-date-file (nth 2 entry))
   ;; Delete the diary local files
   (if (file-exists-p local-ical-file) (delete-file local-ical-file))
   (if (file-exists-p local-date-file) (delete-file local-date-file))
   ;; Get ical file
   (w3-download-url google-ical-url (expand-file-name local-ical-file))
   ;; convert to diary without leading 
   (icalendar-import-file local-ical-file local-date-file t)
   ;; iCalendar leaves the buffers open
   (if (find-buffer-visiting local-date-file) (kill-buffer
(find-buffer-visiting local-date-file)))
   (if (find-buffer-visiting local-ical-file) (kill-buffer
(find-buffer-visiting local-ical-file)))
   
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[Orgmode] Problem with ascii export + possible useful search.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

It seems that under Xemacs the ascii export just appends the new
export to the contents of the old export. If you have the old export
buffer open already then it inserts the new export into the old file
at the cursor.

The useful search i have started using, is similar to the GTD stuck
projects one. The search produces a view of stuck to-dos. That is a
list of todos that have been designated without a context. At the
moment i am using something like this in my
org-agenda-custom-commands:
(- tags-todo [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]@/X
nil )

where X is what i use to denote a TODO entry.

Cheers,

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[Orgmode] Re: Idea: Agenda Search publish?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Yes thats exactly what i meant. I know there is an ascii mechanism
using emacs in batch mode mentioned in the manual, but it is only
text, and i could not get it to work properly under Xemacs for
windows.

I see it as a kind of merge of agenda and publish. I have been playing
with a cut/paste keyboard macro that does a basic ascii publish and i
thought others may be interested in the idea.

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[Orgmode] Idea: Agenda Search publish?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi, i have been playing with org-agenda-custom-commands, and it got me
thinking.

What about adding the generated searches as a publishable source?
possibly  by adding to
org-agenda-custom-commands.
e.g.:
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands

'((w todo WAITING Waiting_list_summary.html publish-html)
(W todo-tree WAITING Waiting_list_full.html publish-html))

regards,

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[Orgmode] Indirect Buffers - how do you get back to the full tree?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Hi,

I've recently started using Indirect buffers for focusing on one tree.
Is there a way to get back to the original full buffer without killing
the buffer/file and re-loading it?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Bug when opening agenda buffer (org-agenda-list)

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 07/02/07, Stephan Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

hello,

i just downloaded org-mode 4.64 and
got an error when i tried to open
the org agenda buffer (C-c a a).

i added line 12488 from version 4.63,
that fixed the problem:

org-4.64 $ diff org.el org.el~
12488,12492c12488,12490
   (when (boundp 'buffer-substring-filters)
 (org-set-local 'buffer-substring-filters
  (cons (lambda (x)
  (set-text-properties 0 (length x) nil x) x)
buffer-substring-filters)))
---
   (org-set-local 'buffer-substring-filters
(cons (lambda (x) (set-text-properties 0 (length x) nil x) x)
  buffer-substring-filters))




Fixes the problem for me also. Are you running XEmacs?

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Re: [Orgmode] patch to outline.el concerning isearch

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On 14/12/06, Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I strongly support this proposal, this is a feature that would be
very valuable.



Any chance you could hack it into the noutline you distribute for
XEmacs in the next release?
XEmacs has this search issue too.

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[Orgmode] recurring events, alternative to shift modifier, tag positions, smart [ ], and org-publish questions

[Tim O'Callaghan]

2. I use org-mode over ssh and since shift doesn't work along with other
modifiers many of the keystrokes do not work. Has anyone come up with
alternate keystrokes not involving shift that they could share?



Shift keys not working? That, i cannot understand. The only difficulty
i've come across is Meta/alt, but thats mapped to escape. So Alt-a is
esc-a.

If you can ssh into a box, then you can use emacs locally and set up
tramp to edit these remote files. Or you could set up X11 forwarding,
and, assuming you have a local X server running, you should be able to
use it as normal.

If your client is windows, you can install Cygwin for a local Xemacs,
Emacs and X server, and use putty as the ssh client with X forwarding.


4. Has anyone written a smart function for smart adding [ ] to lines, kind
of like C-c C-t does with TODO? Ideally it would be smart enough to put it
after a - if there were one.



I think you can use abbrev mode to do this.

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[Tim O'Callaghan]

This is the first time I've tried it, but C-c C-k - edit outline in
dedicated frame, does not work under XEmacs.

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Re: [Emacs-orgmode] Attention XEmacs users

[Tim O'Callaghan]

Problem with XEMACS noutline mode. This backtrace happens when i try
and cycle from OVERVIEW. 

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable set-extent-endpoints)
  (if ( (extent-end-position ex) end) (progn (set-extent-endpoints ... ... 
beg) (set-extent-endpoints ex end ...)) set-extent-endpoints ex 
(extent-start-position ex) beg)
  (if ( (extent-start-position ex) beg) (if ( ... end) (progn ... ...) 
set-extent-endpoints ex (extent-start-position ex) beg))
  (lambda (ex ignored) (if ( ... beg) (if ... ... set-extent-endpoints ex ... 
beg)) (if ( ... end) (set-extent-endpoints ex end ...) (delete-extent 
ex)))(#extent [29943, 30105) I isearch-open-invisible outline 0x29d0908 in 
buffer PROJECTS.ORG nil)
  map-extents((lambda (ex ignored) (if ( ... beg) (if ... ... 
set-extent-endpoints ex ... beg)) (if ( ... end) (set-extent-endpoints ex end 
...) (delete-extent ex))) #buffer PROJECTS.ORG 30056 30105 nil end-closed 
outline)
  (save-excursion (map-extents (function ...) (current-buffer) beg end nil 
(quote end-closed) (quote outline)))
  outline-discard-extents(30056 30105)
  outline-flag-region(30056 30105 nil)
  outline-show-heading()
  (if (= (funcall outline-level) level) (outline-show-heading))
  (lambda nil (if (= ... level) (outline-show-heading)))()
  funcall((lambda nil (if (= ... level) (outline-show-heading
  (while (and (progn ... ...) (not ...)) (funcall fun))
  (progn (goto-char (match-beginning 0)) (funcall fun) (while (and ... ...) 
(funcall fun)))
  (if (re-search-forward (concat ^\\(?: outline-regexp \\)) end t) (progn 
(goto-char ...) (funcall fun) (while ... ...)))
  (when (re-search-forward (concat ^\\(?: outline-regexp \\)) end t) 
(goto-char (match-beginning 0)) (funcall fun) (while (and ... ...) (funcall 
fun)))
  (save-excursion (setq end (copy-marker end)) (goto-char beg) (when 
(re-search-forward ... end t) (goto-char ...) (funcall fun) (while ... ...)))
  outline-map-region((lambda nil (if (= ... level) (outline-show-heading))) 
29294 30105)
  (save-excursion (outline-back-to-heading) (setq level (+ level ...)) 
(outline-map-region (lambda nil ...) (point) (progn ... ...)))
  (let (outline-view-change-hook) (save-excursion (outline-back-to-heading) 
(setq level ...) (outline-map-region ... ... ...)))
  show-children(1000)
  show-branches()
  (while (and (progn ... t) (looking-at outline-regexp)) (show-branches) (if 
(bobp) (throw ... nil)))
  (catch (quote exit) (while (and ... ...) (show-branches) (if ... ...)))
  (save-excursion (goto-char (point-max)) (catch (quote exit) (while ... ... 
...)))
  org-content()
  (cond ((and ... ...) (message CONTENTS...) (org-content) (message 
CONTENTS...done) (setq org-cycle-global-status ...) (run-hook-with-args ... 
...)) ((and ... ...) (show-all) (message SHOW ALL) (setq 
org-cycle-global-status ...) (run-hook-with-args ... ...)) (t (org-overview) 
(message OVERVIEW) (setq org-cycle-global-status ...) (run-hook-with-args ... 
...)))
  (cond ((org-at-table-p ...) (or ... ...)) ((eq arg t) (cond ... ... ...)) 
((integerp arg) (save-excursion ... ... ...)) ((save-excursion ... ...) 
(org-back-to-heading) (let ... ... ...)) (buffer-read-only 
(org-back-to-heading)) ((if ... t ...) (if ... ...) (indent-relative)) (t 
(save-excursion ... ...)))
  (let* ((outline-regexp ...) (bob-special ...) (org-cycle-hook ...) (pos ...)) 
(if (or bob-special ...) (setq arg t)) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... 
... ...) (buffer-read-only ...) (... ... ...) (t ...)))
  org-cycle((4))
  (if (integerp arg) (progn (show-all) (hide-sublevels arg) (setq 
org-cycle-global-status ...)) (org-cycle (quote ...)))
  org-global-cycle(nil)
  call-interactively(org-global-cycle)
  (cond ((org-at-table-p) (call-interactively ...)) (t (call-interactively 
...)))
  org-shifttab(nil)
  call-interactively(org-shifttab)


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Re: [Emacs-orgmode] Attention XEmacs users

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 06:36:19PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Maybe you are not trying to open the file in emacs?
 Following a link picks an application to open the file, depending on 
 the extension.  Under windows, the default is to use open for 
 files, which is just like double-clicking them.  However, open may 
 choke on an efs path.
 
 You can force the link to open inside emacs with C-u C-c C-o.  Have 
 you tried this?
 

Yep, it looks like this is the problem. 


 - Carsten
 
 On Jun 20, 2006, at 18:24, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 05:10:27PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Yes, looks like this function does not do at all what I think it
 should be doing.  I'll remove the call, thanks for tracking this
 down.
 
 
 I've tracked it down to something in org-open file. It gets past the
 No such file:  clause. Efs seems to be functioning well enough up
 until the point where the file actually gets opened.
 
 - Carsten
 
 On Jun 20, 2006, at 17:03, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 03:47:13PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 Hi Tim,
 
 
 On Jun 20, 2006, at 14:09, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 Also : needed to be added to org-link-escape-chars, as below:
 (defconst org-link-escape-chars '((: . :) ([ . %5B) (] 
 .
 %5D) (  . %20))
 Association list of escapes for some characters problematic in
 links.)
 
 Is there a typo in this setting?  The above setting should lead 
 to
 an
 infinite loop, because you keep replacing : with : when 
 trying
 to
 escape the link characters.  And as far as I can see, org-mode
 passes
 the file name right through to `find-file'.  Could anyone try to
 reporduce this?
 
 
 Sorry, it was a quick hack that seemed to work, and now for some
 reason does not. The issue itself still exists though.
 
 I've tracked it down to the convert-standard-filename call in
 org-open-file. If i remove the convert-standard-filename, it does
 not
 recognize it as an efs type file.
 
 Anyway convert-standard-filename is what mangles efs type file
 links. My guess is that it may be related to the C:\\filename
 problem
 too.
 
 Tim.
 
 
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Re: [Emacs-orgmode] Attention XEmacs users

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 07:38:03PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
 
 On Jun 15, 2006, at 15:21, Tim O'Callaghan wrote:
 
 Could you just add it into a 'contrib' type directory in the
 distribution file?
 
 Yes, I will distribute the file with Org-mode, but in an XEmacs 
 directory, not in contrib.  If I put it in contrib, too many people 
 will install it also under Emacs, which will break it and create too 
 many emails for me :-)
 
 Yes, we could have a contrib directory.  Any suggestions on how this 
 should be structured?  It would need to have a mechanism to carry 
 documentation, and to clearly mark things as not under my 
 maintenance.
 

A simple Readme-contribution.txt possibly? if you published a
CVS/whatever tree as a 'src' distribution alongside the normal distro,
it would then be up to the contrib maintainers to send you patches
against it for distribution. This should work if you use the same type
of pre-release warning email you sent for each release. 

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Re: [Emacs-orgmode] maybe Offtopic: Emacs + Org + ?? to read Email (IMAP) on Win2K

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:46:15PM +0200, Philipp Raschdorff wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I've read this list from the beginning and I'm amazed how fast org-mode
 is evolving - thanks!
 
 I hope my question maybe offtopic :-o
 
 I would like to use Emacs to read my Emails, since a lot of my tasks
 coming from reading mail. I know that some people use Emacs to read
 their mails.
 
 Unfortunately I wasn't able to setup things correctly.
 
 I want:
 - Emacs to read Mail from 3 different IMAP-Mailservers
 - use orgmode to link to mail-messages, create task etc.
 - really offtopic: gnupg-support for emacs/org-mode
 - I'm running Win2K
 
 Any help would be great.
 
 regards from berlin / germany
 
 P hil
 

I use Xemacs on win2k. At the moment, i use muttng  msmtp under
cygwin. I tried using Xemacs, as a mail reader but gave up. VM got to
slow, Wanderlust  Mew are documented in Japanese, and Gnus is so
feature packed it looked like it would take weeks to set up let alone
find out how to use.

I'd be interested in finding out how other people are using emacs
as a mail client, and if it is worth doing. 

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Re: Was: [Emacs-orgmode] Feedback on Scheduling? - How do you use yours?

[Tim O'Callaghan]

On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:41:22AM +0100, Pete Phillips wrote:
 
 Tim Its also interesting that you use tags for GTD context. This is
 Tim the way i use tags, and i have been wondering if anyone else
 Tim used them like this.
 
 I'm glad - I was in discussion with Carsten for a while regarding
 org-mode, when he came up with this brilliant idea of tags - as soon as
 he proposed it, I could see that it would fit into my GTD system
 straight away (I moved from a Zaurus list manager to org-mode+hipster
 last August, but have been using GTD since the original hardback book
 came out).
 

I thought it was a good idea as well, i'm glad it was implemented :)
Its perfect for keeping context on an item.

 Tim An interesting idea, one that i was kicking about for a bit
 Tim when i was using a hipster style PDA. I was thinking about
 Tim generating XSLFO or SWF based templates, and merging the
 Tim information into the XML template for printing. XSLFO is a
 Tim pain, so i went for SWF, which is a pain but less so. SWF has
 Tim the advantage of being scalable if designed properly, and
 Tim supported by inkscape, which makes creating templates easy. I
 Tim experimented with ImageMagick and an SWF based templates for
 Tim automatic processing. I got an experimental SWF template from
 Tim all things hipster: diyplanner.org. Unfortunately ImageMagick
 Tim did not support SWF well enough for me to want to continue :(
 
 Basically I used lyx to design the template and then exported it to
 latex to see what I needed to add from the perl script. I have a bit of
 experience with XML and XSL (our woundcare journal,
 www.worldwidewounds.com, is prepared using docbook XML) but I have never
 got to grips with the FO model.
 

It does takes some getting used to. I just realized that when i said
SWF what i meant was SVG.  I think SVG is the way to go. You can
easily create an XML template in Inkscape, the hard part is rendering
the transformed version outside of Inkscape for printing. I think
batik will do it, but i gave up on the hipster before i got that far.

 Tim In the end i opted for a paperless system.
 
 No good for me as I need something with me all the time. I find the PDA
 too slow, and the HPDA fast and flexible. Combining my laptop org-mode
 with HPDA has been terrific (for me - I readily acknowledge that this is
 a game of horses for courses).
 

I keep a copy of my org files on an MMC that i keep in my
phone. Easier to review and keep in sync.

 Tim I'd be interested to hear how other org users are implementing
 Tim GTD. If for nothing else that to be able to cherry pick ideas
 Tim that i can incorporate into my system.
 
 Me also.
 
 Tim My system is based around one big org mode file for personal
 Tim stuff and one for work. I can edit the file in other editors
 Tim (such as the one on my smartphone) and search for GTD context
 Tim via tags. The symbol :TAGNAME: is unique enough to search on
 Tim when i need context, and works to find tagged lines using every
 Tim editor i know of.
 
 Yep. By the way, you can also set up a shell script to mail your file to
 a gmail account every night, so you have unlimited (well, almost)
 backupand archive. I set up a special archive gmail account just for
 this. with 2.?? Gb of space, I won't be running out of space soon.
 
 Tim External editors do not support the org mode 'file:'
 Tim references, so i am strict about keeping only Next Actions and
 Tim possible Next Actions in the org file. I keep reference
 Tim material in a another appropriately named file in the same
 Tim directory.
 
 I keep the lot in one big file. That's the advantage of using outline
 mode - you can collapse gobs of text into nothing just by pressing the
 TAB key. Less to keep track of and remember, and makes the perl script
 - HPDA doable.
 

I started doing this, but it quickly got out of hand for me. The stuff
is not hidden when you reviewing the information in an editor that does
not support outline mode.

 Tim I also make sure the context tags and the text of the item will
 Tim inform me of the project they are related to. So I don't need
 Tim the reference material unless referred to by the text of the
 Tim Next Action, and then only because it does not fit in one line.
 
 Yep - I need to make sure that the headline has enough info so that when
 printed onto the HPDA I can understand/recall what it relates to.
 

Do you have any interesting tools to help the weekly review? how do
you implement your tickler file?

The hardest thing for me at the moment is syncing the Calendar
information into my phones Calendar application.

Tim.


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