Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
On 23 April 2014 16:04, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Okay, see those two bits of `org-file-apps' docstring: `auto-mode'Matches files that are matched by any entry in `auto-mode-alist', so all files Emacs knows how to handle. Using this with command `emacs' will open most files in Emacs. Beware that this will also open html files inside Emacs, unless you add (html . default) to the list as well. So (auto-mode . emacs) says to open .pdf files in emacs... but (\\.pdf\\' . default) says to open .pdf files using the default application: `default' Use the default application for this file type, which is the association for t in the list Since you have (t . xdg-open %s), xdg-open is used. Yep, it's all a bit tricky... Thanks for explaining more. The reason I was (and remain!) still confused is that you said earlier that because auto-mode comes first, it is not overridden by changing the default value later. So the implication is that changing the default value does not override other values, but changing the system value does. Am I correct? -- http://rrt.sc3d.org
Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
On 21 April 2014 20:00, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Reuben, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org writes: 1. I customize org-file-apps's system command to be xdg-open %s, then customize the default command to be the system command. Please share the value of `org-file-apps' (C-h v org-file-apps RET). Value: ((auto-mode . emacs) (\\.mm\\' . default) (\\.x?html?\\' . default) (\\.pdf\\' . default) (t . xdg-open %s) (system . xdg-open %s)) What I've found is that, since .pdf documents can be opened in Emacs and since org-file-apps contains (auto-mode . emacs) as its first element, then changing the system's value to xdg-open after that will fail because (auto-mode . emacs) is applied first. That's interesting, but I'm no less confused. With the value above, PDF files *are* opened with xdg-open. Sure, the docstring needs a bit of simplification, thought. That would be a good start: if I can understand what is supposed to happen, I have some chance to tell whether the actual behaviour is correct or not! Thanks for your continued attention to this issue. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org
Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
Hi Reuben, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org writes: Value: ((auto-mode . emacs) (\\.mm\\' . default) (\\.x?html?\\' . default) (\\.pdf\\' . default) (t . xdg-open %s) (system . xdg-open %s)) What I've found is that, since .pdf documents can be opened in Emacs and since org-file-apps contains (auto-mode . emacs) as its first element, then changing the system's value to xdg-open after that will fail because (auto-mode . emacs) is applied first. That's interesting, but I'm no less confused. With the value above, PDF files *are* opened with xdg-open. Okay, see those two bits of `org-file-apps' docstring: `auto-mode'Matches files that are matched by any entry in `auto-mode-alist', so all files Emacs knows how to handle. Using this with command `emacs' will open most files in Emacs. Beware that this will also open html files inside Emacs, unless you add (html . default) to the list as well. So (auto-mode . emacs) says to open .pdf files in emacs... but (\\.pdf\\' . default) says to open .pdf files using the default application: `default' Use the default application for this file type, which is the association for t in the list Since you have (t . xdg-open %s), xdg-open is used. Yep, it's all a bit tricky... -- Bastien
Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
Hi Reuben, Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org writes: 1. I customize org-file-apps's system command to be xdg-open %s, then customize the default command to be the system command. Please share the value of `org-file-apps' (C-h v org-file-apps RET). What I've found is that, since .pdf documents can be opened in Emacs and since org-file-apps contains (auto-mode . emacs) as its first element, then changing the system's value to xdg-open after that will fail because (auto-mode . emacs) is applied first. Sure, the docstring needs a bit of simplification, thought. -- Bastien
Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org writes: I don't know, because I don't know whether it's the behavior or documentation that is wrong. If the behavior is wrong, what is wrong? If the documentation is wrong, what is wrong? Sorry to be plain, but you need to help me :) -- Bastien
Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
On 17 March 2014 12:37, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Reuben Thomas r...@sc3d.org writes: I don't know, because I don't know whether it's the behavior or documentation that is wrong. If the behavior is wrong, what is wrong? If the documentation is wrong, what is wrong? I shall assume it's a bug in the code. 0. The docstring for org-file-apps for the system command says: This command is specified by the entry whose car is `system'. Most likely, the system-specific version of this variable does define this command, but you can overrule/replace it here. 1. I customize org-file-apps's system command to be xdg-open %s, then customize the default command to be the system command. 2. Now I try opening a file type which uses the default command. Expected result: xdg-open should be used. Actual result: the file is opened in Emacs (it's a PDF file, xdg-open would open it in evince). If I explicitly customize the default command also to be xdg-open, then I get the expected result. -- http://rrt.sc3d.org
Re: [O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
Hi Reuben, I'm confused and can't get what's the problem: is it a bug? Is it a documentation bug? Can you provide a minimal recipe (if this is a bug) or a patch against the documentation? Thanks in advance, -- Bastien
[O] Bug: Setting system command org-file-apps does not allow other settings to refer to it [8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/)]
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list. If I customize org-file-apps's system command to be xdg-open %s, then customize the default command to be the system command, xdg-open is not used as the default command, which is confusing; I have to duplicate the configuration as shown below in order to get the desired behavior, which seems to contradict the documentation, which says: This command is specified by the entry whose car is `system'. Most likely, the system-specific version of this variable does define this command, but you can overrule/replace it here. There is a possible ambiguity: maybe for the default command, the value system means the system default, not the setting for the system command? (That would seem unfortunate and confusing were it the case.) Emacs : GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.8.2) of 2013-07-27 on roseapple, modified by Debian Package: Org-mode version 8.2.5h (release_8.2.5h-620-g7fd183 @ /home/rrt/.emacs.d/el-get/package/elpa/org-20140210/) current state: == (setq org-export-backends '(ascii html icalendar latex odt) org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe org-src-native-tab-command-maybe org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe org-babel-header-arg-expand) org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook org-babel-speed-command-hook) org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter) org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe) org-html-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents) org-latex-format-inlinetask-function 'ignore org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p org-ascii-format-inlinetask-function 'org-ascii-format-inlinetask-default org-file-apps '((auto-mode . emacs) (\\.mm\\' . default) (\\.x?html?\\' . default) (\\.pdf\\' . default) (t . xdg-open %s) (system . xdg-open %s)) org-latex-format-headline-function 'org-latex-format-headline-default-function org-default-notes-file ~/org/Notes.org org-startup-indented t org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current) org-latex-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents) org-odt-format-headline-function 'ignore org-from-is-user-regexp \\Reuben Thomas\\ org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer) org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text) org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer) org-mode-hook '(window-margin-mode #[nil \300\301\302\303\304$\207 [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append local] 5] #[nil \300\301\302\303\304$\207 [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-babel-show-result-all append local] 5] org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes turn-on-eldoc-mode) org-ascii-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents width) contents) org-odt-format-inlinetask-function 'ignore org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point org-babel-execute-safely-maybe) org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-hide-inline-tasks org-cycle-show-empty-lines org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change) org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe) org-odt-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents) org-html-format-headline-function 'ignore org-html-format-inlinetask-function 'ignore org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer) ) -- http://rrt.sc3d.org/
