Re: [O] Complexity of using spreadsheet functionality (was: Calculate differences of remote table numbers)

2018-10-12 Thread Samuel Wales
me too on spreadsheets are challenging in org [but powerful].  i
wonder what would make them more intuitive.

i use them infrequently, so i have to re-learn them when i use them.

it would be really neat if we could do something like c-c ' that pulls
up a more immediately intuitive interface.  maybe an ses mode type
spreadsheet?  for some tasks, some might even prefer a regular
spreadsheet whose serialized dot files get stored in an org block.
but that would not show the table in org, which you want also.



[O] Complexity of using spreadsheet functionality (was: Calculate differences of remote table numbers)

2018-10-08 Thread Karl Voit
* Eric S Fraga  wrote:
> On Monday,  8 Oct 2018 at 17:19, Karl Voit wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I have to admit that spreadsheets in Org are not
>> something I can recommend to somebody who needs "something that just
>> works" (like Excel-switcher). :-(
>
> Maybe not but the combination of "It's all text", Emacs calc, and
> LaTeX export is unbeatable for me.  I've not used any other
> spreadsheet in years!

I do think that we all agree on that.

But it's more "I accept the nasty issues I have while creating
complex spreadsheet stuff because I got tons of advantages elsewhere
in this tool" instead of "hey, you're using Excel. Wanna switch to
Org/calc because it offers equivalent spreadsheet functionality on
top of many other advantages".

You have to use Org for a while in order to be able to grasp the
large universe of possibilities. It's really not that easy to
explain or show. It's something you have to experience IMHO. And
after you had this epiphany, you accept even hard to do things like
complex calc references.

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