Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
ÜFigid Enviado desde Type En 27/08/2015, 18:14, en 18:14, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk escrito: On Thursday, 27 Aug 2015 at 23:33, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Oh man, I should have known not to second-guess Org. Gets me all the time! :-) -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.2, Org release_8.3.1-176-g45abec
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: On Thursday, 27 Aug 2015 at 11:46, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: Org and the calendar make it fairly easy to enter time ranges, by typing -- and then the end time or + and then the duration. I'd like to do something similar for dates, but it doesn't seem to be supported. Is there an easy way to enter a date range for a scheduled task? [...] For a vacation, a plain timestamp is more appropriate. However! That just begs the question of how to make it easier to enter a date range. That's a question I don't know the answer to -- I suspect there isn't any way but just hitting a couple of hyphens and then C-c . again. I suppose Org could help by setting the default date of the end time to something after the start time. Eric Actually, org is quite smart in this respect. if you enter a time stamp and then ask to enter another, org automatically inserts the -- between the two time stamps. E.g. try this key sequence to get a time range that covers 7 days starting today: C-c . RET C-c . +6 RET and you should get: 2015-08-27 Thu--2015-09-02 Wed Oh man, I should have known not to second-guess Org. Thank you so much for this tip!
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
On Thursday, 27 Aug 2015 at 23:33, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Oh man, I should have known not to second-guess Org. Gets me all the time! :-) -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.2, Org release_8.3.1-176-g45abec
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes: if you enter a time stamp and then ask to enter another, org automatically inserts the -- between the two time stamps I had no idea. This is awesome! Rasmus -- When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
Hi Eric, Eric, Rasmus, and Nicolas, On 2015-08-27 at 05:36, Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote: On Thursday, 27 Aug 2015 at 11:46, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: Org and the calendar make it fairly easy to enter time ranges, by typing -- and then the end time or + and then the duration. I'd like to do something similar for dates, but it doesn't seem to be supported. Is there an easy way to enter a date range for a scheduled task? [...] For a vacation, a plain timestamp is more appropriate. However! That just begs the question of how to make it easier to enter a date range. That's a question I don't know the answer to -- I suspect there isn't any way but just hitting a couple of hyphens and then C-c . again. I suppose Org could help by setting the default date of the end time to something after the start time. Eric Actually, org is quite smart in this respect. if you enter a time stamp and then ask to enter another, org automatically inserts the -- between the two time stamps. E.g. try this key sequence to get a time range that covers 7 days starting today: C-c . RET C-c . +6 RET and you should get: 2015-08-27 Thu--2015-09-02 Wed Thank you all for the reminder of SCHEDULED, DEADLINE, normal and inactive timestamp use cases, and the information about easy-entry of inactive ranges. Workflow much improved! -k.
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
On Thursday, 27 Aug 2015 at 11:46, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: Org and the calendar make it fairly easy to enter time ranges, by typing -- and then the end time or + and then the duration. I'd like to do something similar for dates, but it doesn't seem to be supported. Is there an easy way to enter a date range for a scheduled task? [...] For a vacation, a plain timestamp is more appropriate. However! That just begs the question of how to make it easier to enter a date range. That's a question I don't know the answer to -- I suspect there isn't any way but just hitting a couple of hyphens and then C-c . again. I suppose Org could help by setting the default date of the end time to something after the start time. Eric Actually, org is quite smart in this respect. if you enter a time stamp and then ask to enter another, org automatically inserts the -- between the two time stamps. E.g. try this key sequence to get a time range that covers 7 days starting today: C-c . RET C-c . +6 RET and you should get: 2015-08-27 Thu--2015-09-02 Wed -- : Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.2, Org release_8.3.1-176-g45abec
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes: Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: No, scheduled + deadline is a different use case. The syntax I use, =SCHEDULED: 2020-01-01--2020-01-07=, is valid, I wouldn't bet on it. I'm sure this can lead to subtle problems. For example, * Test SCHEDULED: 2020-01-01--2020-01-07 (org-entry-get (point-min) SCHEDULED) = 2020-01-01, i.e, range end information is lost. . One (of many) use cases: a week long vacation. This use case is supported by Org since the Agenda helpfully shows (1/7), and (2/7), etc. before each entry. Everything else is so efficient and has shortcuts, including time ranges, I just hoped I was missing something here. Perhaps it hasn't been implemented yet. I think what Nicolas means is that, in the sort of use case you're outlining above, you should probably be using a plain timestamp. SCHEDULED means I'm going to work on this TODO now, in which case a time span doesn't quite make sense -- you start working at the start of the span, and you finish when you toggle the keyword to DONE. For a vacation, a plain timestamp is more appropriate. Exactly. If you know the exact range, use a plain timestamp. SCHEDULED is for when you know when to start, but not when to end. With SCHEDULED + DEADLINE, you know when to start, you're not sure when to end, but it must be done before deadline. Regards,
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
Hello, Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: Org and the calendar make it fairly easy to enter time ranges, by typing -- and then the end time or + and then the duration. I'd like to do something similar for dates, but it doesn't seem to be supported. Is there an easy way to enter a date range for a scheduled task? I don't think so. However, in Org, scheduling a task to date A means it can start from date A. Scheduling a task to date A -- date B would be equivalent to scheduling it to date A. You probably want to do scheduled + deadline, which is supported. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
[O] Easy entry of date ranges
Hi Org List Org and the calendar make it fairly easy to enter time ranges, by typing -- and then the end time or + and then the duration. I'd like to do something similar for dates, but it doesn't seem to be supported. Is there an easy way to enter a date range for a scheduled task? Thanks, -k.
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
On 2015-08-26 at 15:04, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote: Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: Org and the calendar make it fairly easy to enter time ranges, by typing -- and then the end time or + and then the duration. I'd like to do something similar for dates, but it doesn't seem to be supported. Is there an easy way to enter a date range for a scheduled task? I don't think so. However, in Org, scheduling a task to date A means it can start from date A. Scheduling a task to date A -- date B would be equivalent to scheduling it to date A. You probably want to do scheduled + deadline, which is supported. No, scheduled + deadline is a different use case. The syntax I use, =SCHEDULED: 2020-01-01--2020-01-07=, is valid, there just isn't an easy way to enter it. One (of many) use cases: a week long vacation. This use case is supported by Org since the Agenda helpfully shows (1/7), and (2/7), etc. before each entry. Everything else is so efficient and has shortcuts, including time ranges, I just hoped I was missing something here. Perhaps it hasn't been implemented yet. -k.
Re: [O] Easy entry of date ranges
Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: On 2015-08-26 at 15:04, Nicolas Goaziou m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr wrote: Ken Mankoff mank...@gmail.com writes: Org and the calendar make it fairly easy to enter time ranges, by typing -- and then the end time or + and then the duration. I'd like to do something similar for dates, but it doesn't seem to be supported. Is there an easy way to enter a date range for a scheduled task? I don't think so. However, in Org, scheduling a task to date A means it can start from date A. Scheduling a task to date A -- date B would be equivalent to scheduling it to date A. You probably want to do scheduled + deadline, which is supported. No, scheduled + deadline is a different use case. The syntax I use, =SCHEDULED: 2020-01-01--2020-01-07=, is valid, there just isn't an easy way to enter it. One (of many) use cases: a week long vacation. This use case is supported by Org since the Agenda helpfully shows (1/7), and (2/7), etc. before each entry. Everything else is so efficient and has shortcuts, including time ranges, I just hoped I was missing something here. Perhaps it hasn't been implemented yet. I think what Nicolas means is that, in the sort of use case you're outlining above, you should probably be using a plain timestamp. SCHEDULED means I'm going to work on this TODO now, in which case a time span doesn't quite make sense -- you start working at the start of the span, and you finish when you toggle the keyword to DONE. For a vacation, a plain timestamp is more appropriate. However! That just begs the question of how to make it easier to enter a date range. That's a question I don't know the answer to -- I suspect there isn't any way but just hitting a couple of hyphens and then C-c . again. I suppose Org could help by setting the default date of the end time to something after the start time. Eric
