Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
On 14.5.2011, at 17:14, Johnny wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On May 4, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Johnny wrote: ... any way to make the 'org-table-edit-field' to be permanently visible in a buffer, automatically updating while moving around in the table to view the full content of the current cell? this is a good idea, and it is now implemented. C-u C-u C-c C-` Impressive Carsten, thanks a lot for the quick update, I have now upgraded org to the development branch (apologies for the delay in feedback) and tested the feature, and it works great! A minor quirk is that if emptying a cell contents in the field editor and pressing C-c C-c, the cursor will be moved to the next column, but it would be more consistent to remain in the same cell as for any other edits. Yes, this was a bug, fixed now. Thanks. Regards - Carsten Finally, I'll take the opportunity to praise org-mode, a really really outstanding tool for organisation and getting things done, although I have barely scratched the surface yet! Great work, and many thanks! Regards, -- Johnny
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On May 4, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Johnny wrote: ... any way to make the 'org-table-edit-field' to be permanently visible in a buffer, automatically updating while moving around in the table to view the full content of the current cell? this is a good idea, and it is now implemented. C-u C-u C-c C-` Impressive Carsten, thanks a lot for the quick update, I have now upgraded org to the development branch (apologies for the delay in feedback) and tested the feature, and it works great! A minor quirk is that if emptying a cell contents in the field editor and pressing C-c C-c, the cursor will be moved to the next column, but it would be more consistent to remain in the same cell as for any other edits. Finally, I'll take the opportunity to praise org-mode, a really really outstanding tool for organisation and getting things done, although I have barely scratched the surface yet! Great work, and many thanks! Regards, -- Johnny
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
On May 4, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Johnny wrote: I have a table with ridiculously long lines, so I have limited them by putting 'N' in the first row. To edit them, I use 'C-c `' to get the full text in a separate buffer, which works fine, especially together with 'longlines-mode'. However, browsing the table contents is very cumbersome, so I am wondering if there is any way to make the 'org-table-edit-field' to be permanently visible in a buffer, automatically updating while moving around in the table to view the full content of the current cell? Similar to the way BBDB pops up and shows the sender in a separate buffer, if known. Any help and ideas appreciated! Thanks! Hi Jonny, this is a good idea, and it is now implemented. C-u C-u C-c C-` while the cursor is in a table turns on a special mode in which the field editor window will follow the cursor through the table. You can use the editor window to see the field contents, you can switch to the editor window, edit the field and press C-c C-c to update the field in the table. The mode can be turned off when executing the command again: C-u C-u C-c ` Also, if the cursor leaves the table, the follow mode automatically turns itself off, to avoid surprises in the window setup when you enter another table. If you prefer to keep the mode on and suffer from possible side effects, take a look at the new variable `org-table-exit-follow-field-mode-when-leaving-table'. HTH - Carsten
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com writes: As I understand, the issue tracker on Worg http://orgmode.org/worg/org-issues.html is thought also as a wish-list and you may add this with the keyword WISH there. But I wouldn't expect too much from doing only this. The best in many cases is to try to implement by oneself and ask for help here where necessary. And it's fun too. To start to understand I would single step with Edebug firstly TAB in a table, then C-c ` with C-c C-q and maybe also S-right on a reference after C-c ' on #+TBLFM. Thanks for the pointers. I will keep this on my todo-list, but starting from minimal experience with lisp and none in debugging in emacs, I wouldn't hold my breath. At least, now I know where to start though, which is quite a step in the right direction. Regards, -- Johnny
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
Hi Johnny On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 20:34, Johnny yggdra...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Thanks for the pointers. I will keep this on my todo-list, but starting from minimal experience with lisp and none in debugging in emacs Ok, in this case one more pointer: For the first Edebug session I can recommend the first and short chapter Using Edebug from http://www.gnu.org/s/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Edebug.html Then keep the other chapters for later reference. Michael
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com writes: There is not such a way yet but I totally agree that it would be nothing but natural to have keys assigned to the buffer that opens with C-c ` to move around in the current table. I suggest S-up/down/left/right for this in honor of the same keys in the table formula editor (C-c ') used to move around field references. These keys could be available at least as long as the buffer/cell content is left unchanged. This sounds like a good idea! Unfortunately, my lisp skills are abysmal and will have to rely on an interest by others to implement such a feature. Is there a wish-list one should post ideas to, or is this captured by the mailing list? -- Johnny
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
Hi Johnny On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 19:48, Johnny yggdra...@gmx.co.uk wrote: [...] so I am wondering if there is any way to make the 'org-table-edit-field' to be permanently visible in a buffer, automatically updating while moving around in the table to view the full content of the current cell? There is not such a way yet but I totally agree that it would be nothing but natural to have keys assigned to the buffer that opens with C-c ` to move around in the current table. I suggest S-up/down/left/right for this in honor of the same keys in the table formula editor (C-c ') used to move around field references. These keys could be available at least as long as the buffer/cell content is left unchanged. Michael
[O] Org table with long lines visibility
I have a table with ridiculously long lines, so I have limited them by putting 'N' in the first row. To edit them, I use 'C-c `' to get the full text in a separate buffer, which works fine, especially together with 'longlines-mode'. However, browsing the table contents is very cumbersome, so I am wondering if there is any way to make the 'org-table-edit-field' to be permanently visible in a buffer, automatically updating while moving around in the table to view the full content of the current cell? Similar to the way BBDB pops up and shows the sender in a separate buffer, if known. Any help and ideas appreciated! Thanks! -- Johnny
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
If you're running Emacs on a graphic environment, there is a mouse tooltip showing the whole cell contentes when you hover over a truncated cell. Regards, .j. On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 06:48:56PM +0100, Johnny wrote: I have a table with ridiculously long lines, so I have limited them by putting 'N' in the first row. To edit them, I use 'C-c `' to get the full text in a separate buffer, which works fine, especially together with 'longlines-mode'. However, browsing the table contents is very cumbersome, so I am wondering if there is any way to make the 'org-table-edit-field' to be permanently visible in a buffer, automatically updating while moving around in the table to view the full content of the current cell? Similar to the way BBDB pops up and shows the sender in a separate buffer, if known.
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
Juan Pechiar j...@pechiar.com writes: If you're running Emacs on a graphic environment, there is a mouse tooltip showing the whole cell contentes when you hover over a truncated cell. Thanks, but I don't like using the mouse as it is too inefficient when moving in buffers. Is there any way not involving the mouse? Regards, -- Johnny
Re: [O] Org table with long lines visibility
Hi Juan You might want to try out also C-u C-c ` or to toggle M-x visible-mode RET. More comfortable would be to reuse this part from org-table-edit-field #+begin_src emacs-lisp (let ((b (save-excursion (skip-chars-backward ^|) (point))) (e (save-excursion (skip-chars-forward ^|\r\n) (point (remove-text-properties b e '(org-cwidth t invisible t display t intangible t)) (if (and (boundp 'font-lock-mode) font-lock-mode) (font-lock-fontify-block))) #+end_src that shows the whole content of the current cell until the next org-table-align from e. g. TAB. It should be relatively easy to combine this with org-table-next-field and parts of it for other moving directions and to assign that to keys for moving around. Michael On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 22:45, Johnny yggdra...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Juan Pechiar j...@pechiar.com writes: If you're running Emacs on a graphic environment, there is a mouse tooltip showing the whole cell contentes when you hover over a truncated cell. Thanks, but I don't like using the mouse as it is too inefficient when moving in buffers. Is there any way not involving the mouse?
