Re: [O] Running org-mode (and emacs) inside the Web browser ?
On 28/10/17 02:49, Olivier Berger wrote: Hi. I'm not exactly sure why that would be worth doing... but I can imagine running that Emacs Web browser port over some kind of versioned file system, and Emacs conf files (org + tangling, of course), so that you have "your" org-mode at hand from anywhere using a URL and a browser tab... of course, using a keyboard for browsing that tab would be better than a touch screen, re keyboard shortcuts. Chromebook would be one good reason. Cheers, Alan -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www.austlii.edu.au/~alan
Re: [O] Running org-mode (and emacs) inside the Web browser ?
Personally, I don't think running it inside a browser would be a good thing... both for keyboard shortcuts, and also for possible issues of non-free JS (or not-machine-readable free JS information). However, it's good to have interoperability with other collaborative editing tools, such as Gobby for which there is already an Emacs Lisp package for that, and also Etherpad (although I don't know if there is a package that allows connecting to this one). Olivier Bergerwrites: > Hi. > > I've had this crazy idea to try and "port" emacs to the Web browser > (using some tools like [[https://browsix.org/][browsix]]), for the > purpose of running org-mode inside a browser tab. > > Anyone having had the same idea yet ? > > Interestingly, porting a C program to browsix currently seem to rely on > emscripten and LLVM... which might not be the best toolchain for > building Gnu Emacs... but trolls aside, I'd be curious of the > feasability. > > I'm not exactly sure why that would be worth doing... but I can imagine > running that Emacs Web browser port over some kind of versioned file > system, and Emacs conf files (org + tangling, of course), so that you > have "your" org-mode at hand from anywhere using a URL and a browser > tab... of course, using a keyboard for browsing that tab would be better > than a touch screen, re keyboard shortcuts. > > Any clues ? > > I've already spotted http://www.ymacs.org/ which could be of use, for > the terminal interface parts. > > Maybe browsix already provides everything else that's needed (LLVM, > emscripten, ...). > > Another option could be some kind of use of WebAssembly port, for > browser compatibility, maybe. > > Of course performance would be interesting to benchmark. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > Best regards, -- - https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno - Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com gratis). - "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo. - Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard - Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV. - Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.
Re: [O] Running org-mode (and emacs) inside the Web browser ?
Hi, org-mode in a browser would be great indeed. With https://github.com/paradoxxxzero/butterfly, you can get a terminal in the browser, then run emacs in terminal mode. It is not ideal (some keyboard shortcuts are intercepted by the browser), but it seems quite interesting. Olivier Berger writes: > Hi. > > I've had this crazy idea to try and "port" emacs to the Web browser > (using some tools like [[https://browsix.org/][browsix]]), for the > purpose of running org-mode inside a browser tab. > > Anyone having had the same idea yet ? > > Interestingly, porting a C program to browsix currently seem to rely on > emscripten and LLVM... which might not be the best toolchain for > building Gnu Emacs... but trolls aside, I'd be curious of the > feasability. > > I'm not exactly sure why that would be worth doing... but I can imagine > running that Emacs Web browser port over some kind of versioned file > system, and Emacs conf files (org + tangling, of course), so that you > have "your" org-mode at hand from anywhere using a URL and a browser > tab... of course, using a keyboard for browsing that tab would be better > than a touch screen, re keyboard shortcuts. > > Any clues ? > > I've already spotted http://www.ymacs.org/ which could be of use, for > the terminal interface parts. > > Maybe browsix already provides everything else that's needed (LLVM, > emscripten, ...). > > Another option could be some kind of use of WebAssembly port, for > browser compatibility, maybe. > > Of course performance would be interesting to benchmark. > > Thanks for your feedback. > > Best regards,
Re: [O] Running org-mode (and emacs) inside the Web browser ?
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 at 17:49:53 +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: > I've had this crazy idea to try and "port" emacs to the Web browser > (using some tools like [[https://browsix.org/][browsix]]), for the > purpose of running org-mode inside a browser tab. > > Anyone having had the same idea yet ? A few months ago, a browser-based version of Spacemacs appeared. It's no longer up, but this post mentions how it was done and links to the dev repos. https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/66locu/try_spacemacs_directly_in_the_browser/ Might be useful.
Re: [O] Running org-mode (and emacs) inside the Web browser ?
2017-10-27 17:49 GMT+02:00 Olivier Berger < olivier.ber...@telecom-sudparis.eu>: > Hi. > > I've had this crazy idea to try and "port" emacs to the Web browser > (using some tools like [[https://browsix.org/][browsix]]), for the > purpose of running org-mode inside a browser tab. > > Anyone having had the same idea yet ? > Definitely, except I didn't even try to take action :) > Interestingly, porting a C program to browsix currently seem to rely on > emscripten and LLVM... which might not be the best toolchain for > building Gnu Emacs... but trolls aside, I'd be curious of the > feasability. > > I'm not exactly sure why that would be worth doing... but I can imagine > running that Emacs Web browser port over some kind of versioned file > system, and Emacs conf files (org + tangling, of course), so that you > have "your" org-mode at hand from anywhere using a URL and a browser > tab... of course, using a keyboard for browsing that tab would be better > than a touch screen, re keyboard shortcuts. > I don't think that the approach to port emacs to run into the browser would be the one offering the best reward. Once you manage to fix all the difficult point, you will probably get something unbearably slow. I think the best reward would be to build a ShareEmacs in the same vein as ShareLaTeX (merged with Overleaf now). The big step would be to run emacs on a server and render emacs in the browser. Then to allow several users to edit concurrently the same org file. My 0.02€ :-) Fabrice
[O] Running org-mode (and emacs) inside the Web browser ?
Hi. I've had this crazy idea to try and "port" emacs to the Web browser (using some tools like [[https://browsix.org/][browsix]]), for the purpose of running org-mode inside a browser tab. Anyone having had the same idea yet ? Interestingly, porting a C program to browsix currently seem to rely on emscripten and LLVM... which might not be the best toolchain for building Gnu Emacs... but trolls aside, I'd be curious of the feasability. I'm not exactly sure why that would be worth doing... but I can imagine running that Emacs Web browser port over some kind of versioned file system, and Emacs conf files (org + tangling, of course), so that you have "your" org-mode at hand from anywhere using a URL and a browser tab... of course, using a keyboard for browsing that tab would be better than a touch screen, re keyboard shortcuts. Any clues ? I've already spotted http://www.ymacs.org/ which could be of use, for the terminal interface parts. Maybe browsix already provides everything else that's needed (LLVM, emscripten, ...). Another option could be some kind of use of WebAssembly port, for browser compatibility, maybe. Of course performance would be interesting to benchmark. Thanks for your feedback. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER http://www-public.telecom-sudparis.eu/~berger_o/ - OpenPGP-Id: 2048R/5819D7E8 Ingenieur Recherche - Dept INF Institut Mines-Telecom, Telecom SudParis, Evry (France)