Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
Hi John, I added the option `org-datetree-add-timestamp'. You can (setq org-datetree-add-timestamp 'inactive) then use C-c / on date trees to look for entries with inactive time stamps. HTH, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
On 12.08.2012 17:48, John Hendy wrote: On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi John, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Date trees are the obvious way to be able to do this, but they don't have any of the neat search functionality that I know of. Can you describe the search functionality you would like for date-trees? I'm not sure I groked it. Date trees allow for a very nice way for filing notes in chronological order, but =C-c / dateRange= does not work for date trees. Previously, active time stamps worked, but I didn't want all my notes showing up in my agenda, so I just dealt with not having a great solution. Then you provided one with the sparse-tree search timestamp-type selection ability, which rocks. Date trees are still the best way to use capture for foolproof chronological storage of notes quickly... but I wouldn't be able to extract notes in a particular date-range with current functionality. Hi John, I have a very similar use case. I capture all my stuff into a date tree and for my weekly report I parse that and extract a subset. It looks a bit crude (hardcoded stuff for my setup) but works for now. I must say that date-trees in their current form feel a bit un-org-mody as they use a completely different data format: -- (defun mp26/org-find-headline-prefix-in-buffer (heading optional buffer pos-only) Find node with heading-prefix HEADING in BUFFER. Return a marker to the heading if it was found, or nil if not. If POS-ONLY is set, return just the position instead of a marker. The heading prefix must match as prefix of the full headline. It may have a TODO keyword, a priority cookie and tags in the standard locations. (with-current-buffer (or buffer (current-buffer)) (save-excursion (save-restriction (widen) (goto-char (point-min)) (let (case-fold-search) (if (re-search-forward (format org-complex-heading-regexp-format (concat (regexp-quote heading) .*)) nil t) (if pos-only (match-beginning 0) (move-marker (make-marker) (match-beginning 0) ; fixme: optional parameter for starting date (defun mp26/org-week-from-journal () Insert a copy of the current week from the journal. (interactive) (insert (mapconcat 'identity (with-current-buffer Journal.orgDaten (loop for days in '(-6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0) collect (let* ((date (calendar-current-date days)) (date-string (format %d-%02d-%02d (nth 2 date) (nth 0 date) (nth 1 date (setq pos (mp26/org-find-headline-prefix-in-buffer date-string nil t)) (when pos (goto-char pos) (org-copy-subtree) (car kill-ring) ))) --
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
I am wondering why people aren't using org-element.el to extract intelligence from org buffers. We seem to be living in 2011s. It is already 2012. --
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: I am wondering why people aren't using org-element.el to extract intelligence from org buffers. We seem to be living in 2011s. It is already 2012. org-element.el is not yet part of a release. It is only available from the git repository. The good news is that it will be part of Org 7.9, hopefully getting the attention it deserves. -- Bastien
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 4:34 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi John, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Date trees are the obvious way to be able to do this, but they don't have any of the neat search functionality that I know of. Can you describe the search functionality you would like for date-trees? I'm not sure I groked it. Date trees allow for a very nice way for filing notes in chronological order, but =C-c / dateRange= does not work for date trees. Previously, active time stamps worked, but I didn't want all my notes showing up in my agenda, so I just dealt with not having a great solution. Then you provided one with the sparse-tree search timestamp-type selection ability, which rocks. Date trees are still the best way to use capture for foolproof chronological storage of notes quickly... but I wouldn't be able to extract notes in a particular date-range with current functionality. Someone provided me with a capture template that would automatically put things in the right place with inactive stamps, so that might have solved my issue. John Thanks, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
Hi John, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Date trees are the obvious way to be able to do this, but they don't have any of the neat search functionality that I know of. Can you describe the search functionality you would like for date-trees? I'm not sure I groked it. Thanks, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
Hi Jack, Jack Erwin j...@jugband.net writes: So, a couple of questions: 1) Is this a sane approach? My elisp is average at best, and the org-mode devs could probably think of a more graceful way to do this. I don't know. If I were you, I would give Org a little more time before trying to make it behave as planner behaves. Also, you might be interested in org-datetree.el, which helps storing things relatively to a date, which sounds a bit more `à la planner'. http://orgmode.org/w/?p=org-mode.git;a=blob_plain;f=lisp/org-datetree.el;hb=HEAD 2) Is there a reason that the org-agenda-after-show-hook is only called when using org-agenda-goto and not org-agenda-switch-to, or is this a bug? A leftover, fixed now, thanks! -- Bastien
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
Jack Erwin j...@jugband.net writes: Hello Jack: I am in the process of trying out org-mode after a long stint with planner.el. The most obvious difference here is that planner.el uses day pages that keep a running list of tasks versus the more dynamic nature of org which collects them from a set of arbitrary .org files. I am a planner refugee from a few years back too. I find that my first hurdle was to get rid of the notation that day pages must be physical instead of emphemeral. While I like the org approach quite a bit, I still miss having a place to record the events and notes of the a day, for use in a weekly/monthly review. There are many ways to do this and it is up to you imagination. Such as by using a date tree or a combination of inactive time stamps and tags. I personally have a :Review: tag in my capture templates for new items and cleared after review. My day and weekly pages are Agenda views that can be called up with one hot key either from Emacs or from my root menu. I think the term Agenda View really throws new users off, because it is not just for Agendas, but really just a generic aggregator. For example in my daily Agenda, I have the following sections: 1. An aggregated Inbox for unfiled items in my org files and dired link to my inbox directory. 2. A section for Late Deadlines. 3. A Section for Wait For items. 4. A section for Sticky notes and other items that I deemed hot. 5. A section from current working files and notes. 6. A 1 day Agenda View for Agenda, scheduled items, deadline items, habits, weather, etc. 7. A Started Actions section for items that I am working on (todo keyword STARTED. 8. A Next Actions List (todo keyword NEXT). 9. A list of my Projects 10. A section for Stuck Projects. 11. A list for my Actions minus started and next (todo keyword TODO). 12. A list of items that are candidates to be archived. Of course I also have a number of Agenda Views for context lists. The key here is really to take some time to set up your Agenda Views and Capture Templates. You should really read this section on worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-gtd-etc.html to get some more ideas. Also I find the following links very helpful (my setup is based on that): http://blog.edencardim.com/2011/05/gtd-with-org-mode-part-2/ http://blog.edencardim.com/2011/06/gtd-with-org-mode-part-3/ Another thing your should take advantage of is org-protocol. I personally have 2 shell scripts for capture and store-link which I have added as actions in my file manager, my root menu and of course I used org-protocol in Firefox. Regards, Charles -- The move was on to 'Free the Lizard' -- Jim Hamerly and Tom Paquin (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly and Associates) pgpQCV5VnRRmx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
Charles Philip Chan cpc...@bell.net writes: The key here is really to take some time to set up your Agenda Views and Capture Templates. Oops, forgot to mention tags. You should think about and setup your tags too. They are great for searching. Charles pgpnvVOisgRUL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Jack, Jack Erwin j...@jugband.net writes: So, a couple of questions: 1) Is this a sane approach? My elisp is average at best, and the org-mode devs could probably think of a more graceful way to do this. I don't know. If I were you, I would give Org a little more time before trying to make it behave as planner behaves. Also, you might be interested in org-datetree.el, which helps storing things relatively to a date, which sounds a bit more `à la planner'. Out of curiosity, do date trees currently have any built in search functions or sparse tree searching ability? I currently use timestamps to capture things under the current month like this: * Journals ** 2012 August *** [2012-08-09 Fri] Did something - Notes - About - What I did This is nice as I need to print my notes for an intellectual property documentation notebook. I have a recurring deadline todo to remind me to print my orgmode notes and permanently tape them in my IP notebook. With timestamps (and the new sparse tree time functionality you added!) I can just search for all time stamps after my last completion date, mark any relevant with :export: and am on my way. When done, I can just replace-string :export: - and the file is back to normal. Date trees would make this easier as I like using capture... but I don't like having to change my .emacs each month to make the adjustment of =** July 2012= as the target headline to =August 2012=. Date trees are the obvious way to be able to do this, but they don't have any of the neat search functionality that I know of. Thanks, John http://orgmode.org/w/?p=org-mode.git;a=blob_plain;f=lisp/org-datetree.el;hb=HEAD 2) Is there a reason that the org-agenda-after-show-hook is only called when using org-agenda-goto and not org-agenda-switch-to, or is this a bug? A leftover, fixed now, thanks! -- Bastien
Re: [O] Using org-mode as day planner
Hi, On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:46 AM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:09 AM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: Hi Jack, Jack Erwin j...@jugband.net writes: So, a couple of questions: 1) Is this a sane approach? My elisp is average at best, and the org-mode devs could probably think of a more graceful way to do this. I don't know. If I were you, I would give Org a little more time before trying to make it behave as planner behaves. Also, you might be interested in org-datetree.el, which helps storing things relatively to a date, which sounds a bit more `à la planner'. Out of curiosity, do date trees currently have any built in search functions or sparse tree searching ability? I currently use timestamps to capture things under the current month like this: * Journals ** 2012 August *** [2012-08-09 Fri] Did something - Notes - About - What I did This is nice as I need to print my notes for an intellectual property documentation notebook. I have a recurring deadline todo to remind me to print my orgmode notes and permanently tape them in my IP notebook. With timestamps (and the new sparse tree time functionality you added!) I can just search for all time stamps after my last completion date, mark any relevant with :export: and am on my way. When done, I can just replace-string :export: - and the file is back to normal. Date trees would make this easier as I like using capture... but I don't like having to change my .emacs each month to make the adjustment of =** July 2012= as the target headline to =August 2012=. Date trees are the obvious way to be able to do this, but they don't have any of the neat search functionality that I know of. You could try replacing Current Month with =,(format-time-string %B)= in your capture template (just make sure to use a backtick rather than a quote. The snippet below would provide just such a capture template that expands to Month Year automatically without any intervention on a monthly or annual basis. It doesn't include the inactive timestamp, or any other markings, but those can be easily added or adapted from the existing template. #+begin_src emacs-lisp (setq org-capture-templates `((t Test entry (file+headline ~/test/test-capture.org ,(format %s %s (format-time-string %B) (format-time-string %Y)) #+end_src Thanks, John http://orgmode.org/w/?p=org-mode.git;a=blob_plain;f=lisp/org-datetree.el;hb=HEAD 2) Is there a reason that the org-agenda-after-show-hook is only called when using org-agenda-goto and not org-agenda-switch-to, or is this a bug? A leftover, fixed now, thanks! -- Bastien Regards, -- Jon
[O] Using org-mode as day planner
Hello, I am in the process of trying out org-mode after a long stint with planner.el. The most obvious difference here is that planner.el uses day pages that keep a running list of tasks versus the more dynamic nature of org which collects them from a set of arbitrary .org files. While I like the org approach quite a bit, I still miss having a place to record the events and notes of the a day, for use in a weekly/monthly review. For this reason, I started using org-daypage.el, which can be found here: https://github.com/almost/org-daypage. Like the author, I ran into the slowdown caused by loading hundreds of day pages in order to create the agenda view. I started playing with this a bit, and have done the following: 1) Create a single page for each year or month (e.g. 2012.org) 2) When a new day page is requested, I create an enclosure in the month page that looks like this: #+BEGIN: daypage :day 2012-08-01 * Here are the items... #+END: daypage 3) Create commands that will find the right day in the file, and then create an indirect, narrowed buffer to the contents of the day for editing. 4) Add an org-agenda-after-show-hook to load the proper day page view when switching from the agenda. So, a couple of questions: 1) Is this a sane approach? My elisp is average at best, and the org-mode devs could probably think of a more graceful way to do this. 2) Is there a reason that the org-agenda-after-show-hook is only called when using org-agenda-goto and not org-agenda-switch-to, or is this a bug? Thanks in advance. Regards, Jack
