Re: [O] export to odt, eqnarray and align are not supported

[Uwe Brauer]

>>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga  writes:

   > On Friday, 15 Jun 2018 at 10:52, Uwe Brauer wrote:
   >> Both a set to nil, but even if I try dvipng via 
   >> 
   >> #+OPTIONS: tex:dvipng
   >> 
   >> Or   #+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick

   > Data point:

   > Both work for me.  The dvipng output looks better, however.  The mathml
   > doesn't work (for me) for the second case with the align environment.

Thanks, I got meanwhile the mathml to work, but the result is not
appealing.

   >> The math, even equations are inserted verbatim, that is really odd.
   >> The minibuffer tells me that the png are generated and indeed there are,
   >> but they are not inserted in the odt file using as  org-export-dispatch
   >> and then chosing odt.

   > Strange.  Cannot help.  Sorry.

Ok I started emacs -q and then it worked. 

So it must be something in my setting. Sigh. I have to debug this which
can take a while, anybody an idea which variable I set incorrectly?


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Re: [O] export to odt, eqnarray and align are not supported

[Eric S Fraga]

On Friday, 15 Jun 2018 at 10:52, Uwe Brauer wrote:
> Both a set to nil, but even if I try dvipng via 
>
>#+OPTIONS: tex:dvipng
>
> Or   #+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick

Data point:

Both work for me.  The dvipng output looks better, however.  The mathml
doesn't work (for me) for the second case with the align environment.

> The math, even equations are inserted verbatim, that is really odd.
> The minibuffer tells me that the png are generated and indeed there are,
> but they are not inserted in the odt file using as  org-export-dispatch
> and then chosing odt.

Strange.  Cannot help.  Sorry.

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Re: [O] export to odt, eqnarray and align are not supported

[Uwe Brauer]

>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer  writes:

   > Hi 

   > Maybe there is something odd in my configuration, but I cannot export
   > the following minimal example to odt, with the equation correctly
   > translated, and I don't know how to debug it.

Sigh

(describe-variable 'org-latex-to-mathml-jar-file)
(describe-variable 'org-latex-to-mathml-convert-command)

Both a set to nil, but even if I try dvipng via 

   #+OPTIONS: tex:dvipng

Or   #+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick

The math, even equations are inserted verbatim, that is really odd.
The minibuffer tells me that the png are generated and indeed there are,
but they are not inserted in the odt file using as  org-export-dispatch
and then chosing odt.

This is all very odd.


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[O] export to odt, eqnarray and align are not supported

[Uwe Brauer]

Hi 

Maybe there is something odd in my configuration, but I cannot export
the following minimal example to odt, with the equation correctly
translated, and I don't know how to debug it.

* Statistics

\begin{eqnarray}
  H_0&=& \mu_{C1}-\mu_{C2}=0\\
  H_a&=& \mu_{C1}-\mu_{C2} >  0\\
\end{eqnarray}


\begin{align}
  H_0&= \mu_{C1}-\mu_{C2}=0\\
  H_a&= \mu_{C1}-\mu_{C2} >  0
\end{align}

The odt file I obtain looks like


Uwe Brauer 



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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello John, hello everybody,

This  is just  a reminder  for the problem  that remains  to solve  with
ox-word.el, as you requested to send it  to you, few hours ago. In fact,
on this page:

[[http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu/blog/2017/04/15/A-new-org-mode-exporter-to-Word-for-scimax/]]
you said correctly:

#+BEGIN_QUOTE
The  references  are reasonably  formatted,  but  not compatible  with
Endnote, or other bibliography manager  software. There are still some
issues with Figure  numbering and cross-references, but it  is not too
bad. The  main benefit of this  seems to be that  one source generates
HTML and the Word document.
#+END_QUOTE

That is true.  Your code works smoothly to export  the bibliography in
docx. But  it fails to reproduce  the convenient system of  labels and
reference with numbering  translation in LaTeX: in  the docx document,
equations have no more numbers (neither letters) to identify them, and
labels  in  format [label-foo]  refer  therefore  to nothing.  (I  have
adopted a  solution in  making tables,  but it is  not a  valuable one
because it is only a way of solving this problem and this works poorly
only for my docx document, not for an export in LateX.)

Anyway, again, many thanks for scimax  and for this ox-word.el.  (As I
told  you, I  succeeded to  install pandoc-crossref  - only  in a  new
Debian sid for the  occasion on my computer, but I  did not succeed to
use it.)



 Best wishes,
-- 
Jo.

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[edgar]

Message: 2
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 19:24:12 +0200
From: Joseph Vidal-Rosset <joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,   John Kitchin
<jkitc...@andrew.cmu.edu>,John Kitchin <johnrkitc...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables
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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello John, hello the list,

The results of my efforts to export an org file with equations, proofs and
so on to odt: imagemagick works, but the png images are ugly. References of
equations and bibliography do not work, because the png images do not
reproduce the org-ref references. I am afraid that by using another way of
exporting math. (Mathjax, Mathml...) I will not get the natural deductions
proofs that I get via proof.sty.  (The export to odt or docx seems to be a
real nightmare, and that is not very surprising, because LaTeX is the only
good solution...)

Best wishes,

Jo.

2018-05-19 17:52 GMT+02:00 Joseph Vidal-Rosset <
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>:

> Hello,
>
> Edgar was right: the problems that I had with the odt export came from my
> file "user.el" i.e. the file for my setup of preferences for scimax. With a
> minimal user.el file containing the latex packages that I need , the export
> is now almost perfect. Are still lacking the right numbering of equations
> and references for these equations, and the bibliography is not pretty. But
> the main work is done.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jo.
>
> 2018-05-19 15:32 GMT+02:00 Joseph Vidal-Rosset <
> joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear Edgar,
>>
>> At the  moment, the results that  I get with  the odt export are  not so
>> bad. Bibliography  works and images  for proofs also. Therefore  I guess
>> that the problems that I have really to solve are minor.
>>
>> We stay in touch and I will inform you.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> --
>> Jo.
>>
>
>

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello,

Edgar was right: the problems that I had with the odt export came from my
file "user.el" i.e. the file for my setup of preferences for scimax. With a
minimal user.el file containing the latex packages that I need , the export
is now almost perfect. Are still lacking the right numbering of equations
and references for these equations, and the bibliography is not pretty. But
the main work is done.

Best wishes,

Jo.

2018-05-19 15:32 GMT+02:00 Joseph Vidal-Rosset <
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>:

> Dear Edgar,
>
> At the  moment, the results that  I get with  the odt export are  not so
> bad. Bibliography  works and images  for proofs also. Therefore  I guess
> that the problems that I have really to solve are minor.
>
> We stay in touch and I will inform you.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> --
> Jo.
>

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Dear Edgar,

At the  moment, the results that  I get with  the odt export are  not so
bad. Bibliography  works and images  for proofs also. Therefore  I guess
that the problems that I have really to solve are minor.

We stay in touch and I will inform you.

Best wishes, 

-- 
Jo. 

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[edgar]

Message: 16
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 14:48:56 +0200
From: Joseph Vidal-Rosset <joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hello again,

I just got this message error:

OpenDocument export failed: Wrong type argument: listp, 67




What is the meaning of this message and how can I do?

Many thanks for your help,

Jo.


I don't really know, Jo, but whenever I get something like that it means 
that

1. there is something wrong with my .emacs, or
2. there is something wrong with my document (strange character, missing 
bracket, mistyped #+OPTIONS line, etc.).


I would (and usually)
0. Open the *Messages* buffer to see if there is some useful information 
there.

1. fire up a new emacs ::  ~emacs -Q~,
2. load package ::  M-: (require 'package),
3. initialize package ::  M-: (package-initialize),
4. load Org ::  M-: (require 'org)   (you may need a path, if you did 
not install from elpa or similar).
5. take the document by chunks, export it piece by piece, and try to 
find which part holds the bug.


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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[edgar]

Message: 14
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 12:01:22 +0200
From: Joseph Vidal-Rosset <joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables
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Dear Edgar,

Thanks for your help on the export of bibliography for docx or odt. I 
am

going to persist in trying to succeed it.


One is glad to be of help :) ;) .



About proof.sty, really there is not  the least problem from org-mode 
to
latex, everything  is smoothly  exported and the  final pdf  document 
is
really nice (with the really pretty 
smfart.class

[[http://smf4.emath.fr/Publications/Formats/]] that I advice.)


I will try that. Thanks.



No,  my problem  is only  with the  export of  these proof  to odt,


Oh, I know!


and
Authorea fails  also (that is  the main reason  why I gave  up 
Authorea,
which seems  to me  being a  nice project, but  not complete  enough 
and

therefore unfortunately  useless for me).


I'm sorry if I mislead you: the only thing that I recommended was the 
LaTeXML style from them. I don't know what Authorea is, actually.



The  only reasonable solutions
seems to me the png export from a succeeding org export to an odt file.


This is by far the quickest solution, and if you don't care about having 
others modify your equations in the ODT, go for it! I would even send a 
compressed file with the Org and other required files (.bib, .png, 
etc.).


I make no promises, but I will try to make a template for you that can 
export tables and equations (on my machine)




Best wishes,

--
Joseph


I wish you the best of luck on this :) .

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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello again,

I just got this message error:

OpenDocument export failed: Wrong type argument: listp, 67
>

What is the meaning of this message and how can I do?

Many thanks for your help,

Jo.

2018-05-18 12:01 GMT+02:00 Joseph Vidal-Rosset <
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>:

> Dear Edgar,
>
> Thanks for your help on the export of bibliography for docx or odt. I am
> going to persist in trying to succeed it.
>
> About proof.sty, really there is not  the least problem from org-mode to
> latex, everything  is smoothly  exported and the  final pdf  document is
> really nice (with the really pretty smfart.class
> [[http://smf4.emath.fr/Publications/Formats/]] that I advice.)
>
> No,  my problem  is only  with the  export of  these proof  to odt,  and
> Authorea fails  also (that is  the main reason  why I gave  up Authorea,
> which seems  to me  being a  nice project, but  not complete  enough and
> therefore unfortunately  useless for me). The  only reasonable solutions
> seems to me the png export from a succeeding org export to an odt file.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> --
> Joseph
>

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Dear Edgar,

Thanks for your help on the export of bibliography for docx or odt. I am
going to persist in trying to succeed it.

About proof.sty, really there is not  the least problem from org-mode to
latex, everything  is smoothly  exported and the  final pdf  document is
really nice (with the really pretty smfart.class
[[http://smf4.emath.fr/Publications/Formats/]] that I advice.)

No,  my problem  is only  with the  export of  these proof  to odt,  and
Authorea fails  also (that is  the main reason  why I gave  up Authorea,
which seems  to me  being a  nice project, but  not complete  enough and
therefore unfortunately  useless for me). The  only reasonable solutions
seems to me the png export from a succeeding org export to an odt file.

Best wishes,

-- 
Joseph 

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[edgar]

On 2018-05-18 08:35, Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote:

Hello Edgar, Nicolas, Eric, and everybody of the emacs-orgmode list,

I give news of my export tentatives from my .org file to odt , in a 
word:

it fails.
I suspect that the problem is my setup, but I am unable to be more 
precise

(if it was not the case, I could probably fix it).

Anyway, pandoc alone was useful and with

pandoc -f latex -t odt -o output.odt input.tex




or

pandoc my-document.tex -o my-document.docx




(I got help here:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/82634/how-to-convert-tex-into-odt
and here: 
https://jabranham.com/blog/2016/11/using-pandoc-export-to-word/ )


I have succeeded to get odt and docx files . But in these files:

   1. tables from tabular with multicolumn are not correctly exported,
   2. the bibliography is not exported
   3. figures of natural deduction proofs produced with proof.sty 
cannot be
   read, because only the latex code is given (I suppose that I need 
png
   images, but because my org export to odt fails, the export of all 
natural

   deductions proof schema also fails.).

 *Comment:* It is a terrible waste of time for a result that even if 
with a

lot of efforts the odt or docx export will finally succeed, the final
result will be far to be as nice as the pdf produced by the latex file.

Anyway, your help is still welcome.

Best wishes,

Jo.



Dear Jo,

First of all, I don't want you to have the wrong impression: I am not an 
Emacs nor Org guru. If I give you an advice, always, always take it with 
caution.


Secondly, I am glad that you are having progress! :D .

Thirdly, I think that I can help you with point (2). Did you try with 
pandoc like I said before?:


On 2018-05-16 20:19, hidden@mail wrote:

Export to ~LaTeX~ file first with ~C-c C-e l l~



  pandoc --csl=council-of-science-editors.csl \
  --bibliography=/path/to/myreferences.bib \
  -f latex+smart inputfile.tex \
  -t docx+smart -o outputname.docx


You will need
1. a CSL file to set a style to your references 
(council-of-science-editors.csl in this example). You can get some from 
here: https://github.com/citation-style-language/styles

2. a bib style (I use Biber; I don't know if that matters, just try).

This has worked for me in the past to produce a DOCX with references.

What I actually recommend is to get that DOCX and copy the references to 
what Org mode exports as ODT 
(https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2018-05/msg00346.html), 
then save the ODT as DOCX in LibreOffice. The ODT produced by Org is 
almost ready, and it carries the advantage of
1. tweaking an OTT (template) to your needs to set a specific format 
(see the link above; you can try the same with --reference-doc in 
pandoc, by the way).
2. being able to (partially use siunitx or other LaTeX commands with 
LaTeXMLMath; although pandoc is working on getting siunitx as well--make 
sure to get the latest version). If you see siunitx.sty.ltxml from 
Authorea's github.com (see link above), you'll see that it may be 
possible to tweak it to your needs for proof.sty.
3. produces tables (you may need to change the format; did I mention the 
OTT?)


One disadvantage of this method is that you may need to replace the key 
to the references to the format which you need (i.e. [authoryear] to 
[1]), but you can use the Replace All function from LibreOffice (if 
there are not many references). I would advise to keep a copy of the 
list after you do the first Replace All, because it's going to be lost 
the next time that you export.


I am sure that there is a good reason for which exporting with 
references has not been implemented in the ODT export function in Org. 
As I said, I am not a guru, and I am not going to complain to the 
developers if I can't code it myself, but you may want to post a feature 
request (may be I should too).


I have never used proof.sty, but I know that there is a way to ask Org 
to load a set of packages when exporting. May be that helps (look for 
the documentation of org-latex-default-packages-alist and 
org-latex-packages-alist; C-h v org-latex-default-packages-alist)


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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello Edgar, Nicolas, Eric, and everybody of the emacs-orgmode list,

I give news of my export tentatives from my .org file to odt , in a word:
it fails.
I suspect that the problem is my setup, but I am unable to be more precise
(if it was not the case, I could probably fix it).

Anyway, pandoc alone was useful and with

pandoc -f latex -t odt -o output.odt input.tex
>

or

pandoc my-document.tex -o my-document.docx
>
>
(I got help here:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/82634/how-to-convert-tex-into-odt
and here: https://jabranham.com/blog/2016/11/using-pandoc-export-to-word/ )

I have succeeded to get odt and docx files . But in these files:

   1. tables from tabular with multicolumn are not correctly exported,
   2. the bibliography is not exported
   3. figures of natural deduction proofs produced with proof.sty cannot be
   read, because only the latex code is given (I suppose that I need png
   images, but because my org export to odt fails, the export of all natural
   deductions proof schema also fails.).

 *Comment:* It is a terrible waste of time for a result that even if with a
lot of efforts the odt or docx export will finally succeed, the final
result will be far to be as nice as the pdf produced by the latex file.

Anyway, your help is still welcome.

Best wishes,

Jo.


2018-05-17 18:31 GMT+02:00 Joseph Vidal-Rosset <
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>:

> Many thanks Edgar,
>
> I  did not  pay attention  to  the list  because  I had  to finish  this
> paper. It is finished, now, but still not exported in odt format. I hope
> that I  will succeed to do  it. Thanks to you  and to all for  your kind
> help.
>
> Best wishes,
> --
> Joseph
>

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Many thanks Edgar,

I  did not  pay attention  to  the list  because  I had  to finish  this
paper. It is finished, now, but still not exported in odt format. I hope
that I  will succeed to do  it. Thanks to you  and to all for  your kind
help.

Best wishes,
-- 
Joseph 

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[edgar]

On Fri, 11 May 2018 14:09:33 +0200

(Why an acedemic review request Word files? It should be forbidden.)
Joseph


I agree! (in some countries, universities are partially 
funded--influenced--by Micro$oft, that may explain).


On Fri, 11 May 2018 14:37:10 +0200

Nicolas Goaziou:
> #+OPTIONS: LaTeX:t

This option is obsolete since Org 8.0.



That option still shows up in org-info (Working with LaTeX math 
snippets):
GNU Emacs 25.2.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.21) of 
2017-09-22, modified by Debian

Org mode version 9.1.13 (9.1.13-elpa 20180507)
May be it's corrected in a newer Emacs...

Also, I hadn't seen this thread, sorry. Thus, I created this: 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2018-05/msg00346.html


Hope it helps. You can potentially use it to get any other symbols. You 
can also try with pandoc (using 2.0.5 here; there is a binary on 
https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/releases/latest):


Export to ~LaTeX~ file first with ~C-c C-e l l~
#+BEGIN_SRC bash
  pandoc --csl=council-of-science-editors.csl \
  --bibliography=/path/to/myreferences.bib \
  -f latex+smart inputfile.tex \
  -t docx+smart -o outputname.docx
#+END_SRC

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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Eric S Fraga]

On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 14:09, Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote:
> The export  works, but I meet  always the same strange  problem with the
> falsity constant  \(\bot\) that  I need  absolutely: the  symbol appears
> with \ begin{equation} ... \ end{equation} but not in lines... the latex
> command for equation produces inverted interrogation marks... 

Yes, it appears that mathml support for \bot is not quite
there.  Interestingly, it works if there is a symbol before and one
after so it's acting as if it is an operator.  E.g. \alpha\bot\beta
works fine.

You could also use \perp instead although it's slanted and quite ugly
(in my opinion).

> (Why an an acedemic review request Word files? It should be
> forbidden.)

Totally agree.  They'll be asking for papyrus next...
-- 
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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Merci Nicolas !

Your email was arrived at the good moment and was very helpful

2018-05-11 14:37 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Goaziou :

> Hello,
>
> Joseph Vidal-Rosset  writes:
>
> > Now it works with theses options in my org file.
> >
> > #+LANGUAGE: fr
> > #+OPTIONS: ':t
> >
> > #+OPTIONS: tex:t
>
> This option is superseded by the last one.
>
> > #+OPTIONS: LaTeX:t
>
> This option is obsolete since Org 8.0.
> >
> > #+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick
>
> This option supersedes "tex:t"
>
> So basically, you are using
>
> #+language: fr
> #+options: ':t tex:imagemagick
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Joseph Vidal-Rosset  writes:

> Now it works with theses options in my org file. 
>
> #+LANGUAGE: fr
> #+OPTIONS: ':t 
>
> #+OPTIONS: tex:t

This option is superseded by the last one.

> #+OPTIONS: LaTeX:t

This option is obsolete since Org 8.0.
>
> #+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick

This option supersedes "tex:t"

So basically, you are using

#+language: fr
#+options: ':t tex:imagemagick

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello Eric, hello the list,

Now it works with theses options in my org file. 

#+LANGUAGE: fr
#+OPTIONS: ':t 
#+OPTIONS: tex:t
#+OPTIONS: LaTeX:t
#+OPTIONS: tex:imagemagick

But the formulae are  png images that are less clean than  in a pdf file
produced from a .tex file...

Again, thanks Eric. 
-- 
Joseph 

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Le ven.  11 mai 2018  à 12:45:57 ,  Eric S Fraga   a
envoyé ce message:
> On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 13:15, Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I would be  glad to get a  configuration for an easy export  from an org
>> file  to  an  odt file.  My  problem  is  that  this org  file  contains
>> mathematical  formulae   written  for  LaTeX  export   and  also  tables
>> (tabular).
>
> have you tried?  tables work out of the box.  maths equations work
> reasonably well if you use the mathml conversion.  On Debian, I had to
>
>   sudo apt install latexml
>
> and then use
>
>   #+options: tex:t
>
> in the org file.
>
> Try and see what happens!

Thanks a lot Eric,  in my Debian I had not  installed latexml. It's done
now.

The export  works, but I meet  always the same strange  problem with the
falsity constant  \(\bot\) that  I need  absolutely: the  symbol appears
with \ begin{equation} ... \ end{equation} but not in lines... the latex
command for equation produces inverted interrogation marks... (Why an an
acedemic review request Word files? It should be forbidden.)

Best wishes, 

-- 
Joseph 

Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Eric S Fraga]

On Friday, 11 May 2018 at 13:15, Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I would be  glad to get a  configuration for an easy export  from an org
> file  to  an  odt file.  My  problem  is  that  this org  file  contains
> mathematical  formulae   written  for  LaTeX  export   and  also  tables
> (tabular).

have you tried?  tables work out of the box.  maths equations work
reasonably well if you use the mathml conversion.  On Debian, I had to

  sudo apt install latexml

and then use

  #+options: tex:t

in the org file.

Try and see what happens!

-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50, Org release_9.1.11-620-ga548e4


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Re: [O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello again, I read and have applied what it is explained here:

https://orgmode.org/manual/Working-with-LaTeX-math-snippets.html#FOOT136

It works rather well, but for some symbols it does not work : for example
for \(\bot\)  the code for falsity constant in  LaTeX, it does not work.

I imagine that I have not installed some library?

2018-05-11 13:15 GMT+02:00 Joseph Vidal-Rosset <
joseph.vidal.ros...@gmail.com>:

> Hello,
>
> I would be  glad to get a  configuration for an easy export  from an org
> file  to  an  odt file.  My  problem  is  that  this org  file  contains
> mathematical  formulae   written  for  LaTeX  export   and  also  tables
> (tabular).
>
> I do not know well libreoffice.
>
> Your help is welcome.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> --
> Joseph
>

[O] export to odt with LaTeX math formulae and tables

[Joseph Vidal-Rosset]

Hello,

I would be  glad to get a  configuration for an easy export  from an org
file  to  an  odt file.  My  problem  is  that  this org  file  contains
mathematical  formulae   written  for  LaTeX  export   and  also  tables
(tabular).

I do not know well libreoffice.

Your help is welcome.

Best wishes, 

-- 
Joseph 

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Eduardo Mercovich]

Hi. 

>>> [...] I suggest that ODT should be provided out of the box. It is
>>> clearly in demand. It meets the needs of a whole segment of users
>>> that need to work with office software. Sure, nothing prevents them
>>> from using it by adding a brief line to their init file. But why not
>>> advertise it? It's a major feature and it works well.

>> FWIW, I also think this would be a good thing to load by default.

> Done.

Thanks Nicolas! :)


-- 
eduardo mercovich 

 Donde se cruzan tus talentos 
 con las necesidades del mundo, 
 ahí está tu vocación.

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Christian Moe]

>>> FWIW, I also think this would be a good thing to load by default.
>>
>> Done.
>
> Thanks very much, Nicolas!

+1!

Yours,
Christian

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Nicolas Goaziou  writes:

> Hello,
>
> Eric Abrahamsen  writes:
>
>>> This question pops up fairly often. I suggest that ODT should be
>>> provided out of the box. It is clearly in demand. It meets the needs of
>>> a whole segment of users that need to work with office software. Sure,
>>> nothing prevents them from using it by adding a brief line to their init
>>> file. But why not advertise it? It's a major feature and it works well.
>>
>> FWIW, I also think this would be a good thing to load by default.
>
> Done.

Thanks very much, Nicolas!

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Eric Abrahamsen  writes:

>> This question pops up fairly often. I suggest that ODT should be
>> provided out of the box. It is clearly in demand. It meets the needs of
>> a whole segment of users that need to work with office software. Sure,
>> nothing prevents them from using it by adding a brief line to their init
>> file. But why not advertise it? It's a major feature and it works well.
>
> FWIW, I also think this would be a good thing to load by default.

Done.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Eduardo Mercovich]

+1 even if I personally don't use it.
For many people is the bridge to work with others.

Best...

Xebar Saram  writes:

> +1 as well :)
>
> Z
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Eric Abrahamsen
>  wrote:
>
> Christian Moe  writes:
> 
> > This question pops up fairly often. I suggest that ODT should be
> > provided out of the box. It is clearly in demand. It meets the
> needs of
> > a whole segment of users that need to work with office software.
> Sure,
> > nothing prevents them from using it by adding a brief line to
> their init
> > file. But why not advertise it? It's a major feature and it
> works well.
> 
> FWIW, I also think this would be a good thing to load by default.
> 
> 
> 


-- 
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 Donde se cruzan tus talentos 
 con las necesidades del mundo, 
 ahí está tu vocación.

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Uwe Brauer]

   > Uwe Brauer  writes:

   > Somewhere in your init files, put (require 'ox-odt). Then it will always
   > be available. Take a look at the other ox-* files, many of them are
   > useful enough to always load by default.

Thanks that worked fine!

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Xebar Saram]

+1 as well :)

Z

On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Eric Abrahamsen 
wrote:

> Christian Moe  writes:
>
> > This question pops up fairly often. I suggest that ODT should be
> > provided out of the box. It is clearly in demand. It meets the needs of
> > a whole segment of users that need to work with office software. Sure,
> > nothing prevents them from using it by adding a brief line to their init
> > file. But why not advertise it? It's a major feature and it works well.
>
> FWIW, I also think this would be a good thing to load by default.
>
>
>

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Christian Moe  writes:

> This question pops up fairly often. I suggest that ODT should be
> provided out of the box. It is clearly in demand. It meets the needs of
> a whole segment of users that need to work with office software. Sure,
> nothing prevents them from using it by adding a brief line to their init
> file. But why not advertise it? It's a major feature and it works well.

FWIW, I also think this would be a good thing to load by default.

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Christian Moe]

This question pops up fairly often. I suggest that ODT should be
provided out of the box. It is clearly in demand. It meets the needs of
a whole segment of users that need to work with office software. Sure,
nothing prevents them from using it by adding a brief line to their init
file. But why not advertise it? It's a major feature and it works well.

Yours,
Christian

Eric Abrahamsen writes:

> Uwe Brauer  writes:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> When I use org-export-dispatch, then a list of possible formats pop up
>> but odt is not among them. Only if I explicitly call
>> org-odt-export-to-odt
>>
>> once, then this command pops up in the list. How
>> can I change this behaviour and have the odt export function in the
>> list??
>
> Somewhere in your init files, put (require 'ox-odt). Then it will always
> be available. Take a look at the other ox-* files, many of them are
> useful enough to always load by default.
>
> E

Re: [O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Uwe Brauer  writes:

> Hi
>
> When I use org-export-dispatch, then a list of possible formats pop up
> but odt is not among them. Only if I explicitly call
> org-odt-export-to-odt
>
> once, then this command pops up in the list. How
> can I change this behaviour and have the odt export function in the
> list??

Somewhere in your init files, put (require 'ox-odt). Then it will always
be available. Take a look at the other ox-* files, many of them are
useful enough to always load by default.

E

[O] export to odt is not per default in the export menu

[Uwe Brauer]

Hi

When I use org-export-dispatch, then a list of possible formats pop up
but odt is not among them. Only if I explicitly call
org-odt-export-to-odt

once, then this command pops up in the list. How
can I change this behaviour and have the odt export function in the
list??

Thanks

Uwe Brauer 

Re: [O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Rasmus]

Hi,

Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes:

 Rasmus writes:
 Could you please rebase or cherry-pick your changes onto the
 then-current master before committing them?
 However, can you please elaborate on what exactly I did wrong?  I have
 checked for the following to understand your criticism:

   1. When I do $ git diff 004332b^ 00433b I get a one line diff (except
  the context).  There are no change of white space or other garbage.
  Why is this not cherry-picked?
 […]

 This one is, but your earlier commits introduced half a dozen

Let's be clear, there are *two* redundant merges.

 spurious merges since they were all started at different points on
 master.

I fail to see the relevance of your remark.

 In principal it is true.  However, is it a real issue¹ in practice?

 The script that generates the ChangeLog for the Emacs merge will list
 all of these separately and Bastien or who else is doing the merge will
 have to manually put them back together.

Thanks.  I will be more careful on this.

Bastien b...@gnu.org writes:

 I was asking no such thing, only that the author name and email you use
 for your commits are always one and the same.

 Yes: it's important to use the same name and address so that we can
 group changelogs under the same person when adding them to Emacs.

Thanks.  

Which file is grouped by author?  Looking quickly at ORG-NEWS, it
doesn't seem to be grouped by author?  Anyway

—Rasmus

-- 
C is for Cookie

Re: [O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Bastien]

Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes:

 The script that generates the ChangeLog for the Emacs merge will list
 all of these separately and Bastien or who else is doing the merge will
 have to manually put them back together.

Yes.

 ¹ It pains me every time I use my private email for public mailing
 list, but I doubt you had my privacy in mind?

 I was asking no such thing, only that the author name and email you use
 for your commits are always one and the same.

Yes: it's important to use the same name and address so that we can
group changelogs under the same person when adding them to Emacs.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Achim Gratz]

Rasmus writes:
 Could you please rebase or cherry-pick your changes onto the
 then-current master before committing them?

 Yes, I am very happy to!

 However, can you please elaborate on what exactly I did wrong?  I have
 checked for the following to understand your criticism:

   1. When I do $ git diff 004332b^ 00433b I get a one line diff (except
  the context).  There are no change of white space or other garbage.
  Why is this not cherry-picked?
[…]

This one is, but your earlier commits introduced half a dozen spurious
merges since they were all started at different points on master.

 In principal it is true.  However, is it a real issue¹ in practice?

The script that generates the ChangeLog for the Emacs merge will list
all of these separately and Bastien or who else is doing the merge will
have to manually put them back together.

 ¹ It pains me every time I use my private email for public mailing
 list, but I doubt you had my privacy in mind?

I was asking no such thing, only that the author name and email you use
for your commits are always one and the same.


Regards,
Achim.
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[O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Detlef Steuer]

Hi!

Trying to open an exported ODT document I see the erroe message:
format error in styles.xml in position (790,2)

This is found the following part of styles.xml:

snip  a lot  of stuff from styles.xml

!-- Org Htmlfontify Styles --

/office:styles

^
This line above is line 790

office:automatic-styles
  style:style style:name=MP1 style:family=paragraph
  style:parent-style-name=Footer/ style:paragraph-properties
  fo:text-align=center style:justify-single-word=false/
  /style:style


snip more stuff .

Any ideas?

GNU Emacs 24.3.1, org from git 
Org-mode version 8.3beta (release_8.3beta-422-gb54ad3 

Export to latex/pdf works as expected.

Thx in advance
Detlef

Re: [O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Rasmus]

Hi Detlef,

Detlef Steuer detlef.ste...@gmx.de writes:

 Trying to open an exported ODT document I see the erroe message:
 format error in styles.xml in position (790,2)

I changed the style used by odt in commit 464cd96.  The part you refer
to is defined in `org-odt-template', but I don't see how it relates to
that commit instantly though the regexp part shortly after the comment
you point out, might not work. . .

Please (always) provide a short example demonstrating your problem.

Thanks,
Rasmus

-- 
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Re: [O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Rasmus]

Hi Detlef,

Detlef Steuer detlef.ste...@gmx.de writes:

 I cannot send the file to the list, but maybe you
 can take a look off list?

In the future you should sent minimal examples.  In this case it did
not matter and the mentioned commit was indeed to blame.  It should be
fixed in master @ 004332b.

Thanks for reporting this.

—Rasmus

PS: The output of the file you sent me will likely not look like you
expect (e.g. missing the table), but that is because of syntax
mistakes.

-- 
Lasciate ogni speranza o voi che entrate: siete nella mani di'machellaio

Re: [O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Achim Gratz]

Rasmus writes:
 In the future you should sent minimal examples.  In this case it did
 not matter and the mentioned commit was indeed to blame.  It should be
 fixed in master @ 004332b.

Could you please rebase or cherry-pick your changes onto the
then-current master before committing them?  Also, you might want to
decide on a single mail address for these committs.


Regards,
Achim.
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Re: [O] export to odt: error in style.xml

[Rasmus]

Hi Achim,

Thanks for your helpful message.

Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes:

 Rasmus writes:
 In the future you should sent minimal examples.  In this case it did
 not matter and the mentioned commit was indeed to blame.  It should be
 fixed in master @ 004332b.

 Could you please rebase or cherry-pick your changes onto the
 then-current master before committing them?

Yes, I am very happy to!

However, can you please elaborate on what exactly I did wrong?  I have
checked for the following to understand your criticism:

  1. When I do $ git diff 004332b^ 00433b I get a one line diff (except
 the context).  There are no change of white space or other garbage.
 Why is this not cherry-picked?
  2. I know I git pull --rebase'ed before I submitted.  I believe the
 patch was only submitted to master, since it shows up on git log
 when I'm on the master branch but not on the maint branch.  This is
 true for my local checkout and for cgit online.  
 Why is this not against the current master?
  3. There is no nasty Merge branch... so, again, why is it not
 cherry picked?

I'm not claiming to be an expert of anything, least of all of
anything–software, so please be explicit so I can learn to commit
better.

 Also, you might want to decide on a single mail address for these
 committs.

In principal it is true.  However, is it a real issue¹ in practice?
Rest assured it is always a real email address checked frequently.  It
happens because I use several computers and I sometimes forget to
correct .git/config.  If it *is* a real issue, I could change my
global git config, though it is configured the way it is for a reason.

Thanks,
Rasmus

Footnotes: 

¹ It pains me every time I use my private email for public mailing
list, but I doubt you had my privacy in mind?

-- 
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Re: [O] export to ODT fails strangely

[Eric S Fraga]

Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes:

 Hello,

 Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 I hope somebody can point me in the right direction.  I am trying to
 export a large document to ODT to share with my
 collaborators.  Exporting to LaTeX works like a charm.  However, with
 ODT, the exporter fails with:

 ,
 | OpenDocument export failed: FIXME: Resolve (paragraph (:begin 23510 :end
 | 23635 :contents-begin 23599 :contents-end 23629 :post-blank 1
 | :post-affiliated 23599 :name fig:graph :caption (((#(Dependency graph
 | of major tasks in the project. 0 47 (:parent #4) :results ()
 | [...]
 `

 I guess you are cross-referencing to a paragraph (probably a standalone
 image) named fig:graph. You can probably get an ECM if you isolate
 both that paragraph and the link referring to it.

Well, you are partially correct in that the problem has to do with my
[[fig:graph]] type of links, which I assume are valid?  Does the fig:
maybe confuse something?  

In any case, I could get the document to export but only by removing all
similar links.  I have two figures and 6 references to these figures in
my large document.  I tried changing fig: to fig- in all cases but I
have the same problem.  Removing all the links (all I did was change
[[fig to [fig) allows the file to be exported (without the links,
obviously).

This particular document is no longer needed.  It was a grant proposal
which was submitted on Thursday and will never need to be exported again
so the problem no longer affects me.  However, there is some problem
somewhere...

While I'm at it, thanks again to the org community: the process of
putting together a rather large proposal went so much better thanks to
org than it would have been had I had to use any alternative system!

Thanks,
eric

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.2.5h-585-g5f0ca0

Re: [O] export to ODT fails strangely

[Bastien]

Hi Eric,

Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 The messages buffer contains a very large amount of text, including most
 of my document in one form or another it seems...  

 I have no idea where to start.

Start by instrumenting `org-odt-link--infer-description' with
`edebug-defun' and see what element causes this, probably a figure
or a link for which the ODT exporter cannot find a description.

Good luck,

-- 
 Bastien

[O] export to ODT fails strangely

[Eric S Fraga]

Hello,

I hope somebody can point me in the right direction.  I am trying to
export a large document to ODT to share with my
collaborators.  Exporting to LaTeX works like a charm.  However, with
ODT, the exporter fails with:

,
| OpenDocument export failed: FIXME: Resolve (paragraph (:begin 23510 :end
| 23635 :contents-begin 23599 :contents-end 23629 :post-blank 1
| :post-affiliated 23599 :name fig:graph :caption (((#(Dependency graph
| of major tasks in the project. 0 47 (:parent #4) :results ()
| [...]
`

The messages buffer contains a very large amount of text, including most
of my document in one form or another it seems...  

I have no idea where to start.  I cannot seem to come up with a minimal
example and the long example has too much confidential material for me
to pass on to anybody at all unfortunately.   Argg.

Thanks,
eric

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.2.5g-539-g0b67b7

Re: [O] export to ODT fails strangely

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk writes:

 I hope somebody can point me in the right direction.  I am trying to
 export a large document to ODT to share with my
 collaborators.  Exporting to LaTeX works like a charm.  However, with
 ODT, the exporter fails with:

 ,
 | OpenDocument export failed: FIXME: Resolve (paragraph (:begin 23510 :end
 | 23635 :contents-begin 23599 :contents-end 23629 :post-blank 1
 | :post-affiliated 23599 :name fig:graph :caption (((#(Dependency graph
 | of major tasks in the project. 0 47 (:parent #4) :results ()
 | [...]
 `

I guess you are cross-referencing to a paragraph (probably a standalone
image) named fig:graph. You can probably get an ECM if you isolate
both that paragraph and the link referring to it.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] export to odt, change the default font.

[Jambunathan K]

Looks like there are many people who are new to LibreOffice in general.
I strongly recommend this document.

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Ooo_for_students.odt

for introductory reading.

Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes:

 Uwe Brauer o...@mat.ucm.es writes:

 Hello

 I am searching the docs in order to configure the odt-export function. I
 cannot find anything concerning fonts. 

 I would like to have hebrew text exported using a particular font. 

 Can anybody give me a hint?

 1. Search for Stylist in the LibreOffice documents.  
 2. Make your font selection or whatever you want to change.
 3. Create a .ott file for the Hebrew document.
 4. Use ODT_STLYES_FILE to use a document-specific style.

 If that doesn't work and if you report back, I can investigate further
 and cook up a fix.

 

 As an aside, LibreOffice Stylist doesn't cater to table related
 elements.  Meaning, the Tables have to be styled using automatic styles
 (i.e., on a one-off basis, by hand).  So styling of Tables, is really an
 issue - Not exactly an issue, but a hassle - compared to other things.

 thanks

 Uwe Brauer 

Re: [O] export to odt, change the default font.

[Jambunathan K]

Uwe Brauer o...@mat.ucm.es writes:

 Hello

 I am searching the docs in order to configure the odt-export function. I
 cannot find anything concerning fonts. 

 I would like to have hebrew text exported using a particular font. 

 Can anybody give me a hint?

1. Search for Stylist in the LibreOffice documents.  
2. Make your font selection or whatever you want to change.
3. Create a .ott file for the Hebrew document.
4. Use ODT_STLYES_FILE to use a document-specific style.

If that doesn't work and if you report back, I can investigate further
and cook up a fix.



As an aside, LibreOffice Stylist doesn't cater to table related
elements.  Meaning, the Tables have to be styled using automatic styles
(i.e., on a one-off basis, by hand).  So styling of Tables, is really an
issue - Not exactly an issue, but a hassle - compared to other things.

 thanks

 Uwe Brauer 

[O] export to odt, change the default font.

[Uwe Brauer]

Hello

I am searching the docs in order to configure the odt-export function. I
cannot find anything concerning fonts. 

I would like to have hebrew text exported using a particular font. 

Can anybody give me a hint?


thanks

Uwe Brauer 

Re: [O] export to odt

[Christian Moe]

Manfred Lotz writes:

 On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:37:55 +0100
 Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:
 
 [...]
 
 
  This is really weird or it is because just my knowledge about
  Libreoffice is limited. At least, I'm happy to be able to use LaTeX
  in most cases instead of an office product.
 
 I'm with you on this!  I use LaTeX almost exclusively.  Every now and
 again, unfortunately, I have to share an editable document with others
 and LibreOffice/MSWord is the only easy way.  For simple
 dissemination, LaTeX - PDF is better.
 


 Yep, exactly. I'm grateful that the export to odt was implemented in
 org-mode so that we have an option to give a finalized document away if
 needed.

Note, however, that what you've been discussing is a feature, not a
requirement. LibreOffice allows you to put the title of the document in
a field code that mirrors the document metadata; it doesn't force you
to, and I imagine  95% of users aren't even aware of the option.

As I recall, this was a solution Jambunathan opted for at some late
point in the development of the org-odt exporter. Before that, the
exporter just wrote the title in as ordinary, editable text. I sort of
preferred the old approach, but not enough to bother to ask to have it
back.

But if many users are baffled why they can't just edit a document title
on the page itself after exporting to ODT -- and that seems likely --
maybe this feature is ripe for a change.

Yours,
Christian

Re: [O] export to odt

[Manfred Lotz]

On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:07:26 +0200
Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote:

 
 Manfred Lotz writes:
 
  On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:37:55 +0100
  Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 
  Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:
  
  [...]
  
  
   This is really weird or it is because just my knowledge about
   Libreoffice is limited. At least, I'm happy to be able to use
   LaTeX in most cases instead of an office product.
  
  I'm with you on this!  I use LaTeX almost exclusively.  Every now
  and again, unfortunately, I have to share an editable document
  with others and LibreOffice/MSWord is the only easy way.  For
  simple dissemination, LaTeX - PDF is better.
  
 
 
  Yep, exactly. I'm grateful that the export to odt was implemented in
  org-mode so that we have an option to give a finalized document
  away if needed.
 
 Note, however, that what you've been discussing is a feature, not a
 requirement. LibreOffice allows you to put the title of the document
 in a field code that mirrors the document metadata; it doesn't force
 you to, and I imagine  95% of users aren't even aware of the option.
 
 As I recall, this was a solution Jambunathan opted for at some late
 point in the development of the org-odt exporter. Before that, the
 exporter just wrote the title in as ordinary, editable text. I sort of
 preferred the old approach, but not enough to bother to ask to have it
 back.
 


Yes I'm aware that this is due to the way how org-mode export to odt is
coded. 

 But if many users are baffled why they can't just edit a document
 title on the page itself after exporting to ODT -- and that seems
 likely -- maybe this feature is ripe for a change.
 

Hm, I do not have any requirements to later change title and author
in the odt document as I would change it in the org file directly. Thus
I don't care how the title and author is set in the odt document.


-- 
Manfred

Re: [O] export to odt

[Eric S Fraga]

Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:

 On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:07:26 +0200
 Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote:

 But if many users are baffled why they can't just edit a document
 title on the page itself after exporting to ODT -- and that seems
 likely -- maybe this feature is ripe for a change.
 

 Hm, I do not have any requirements to later change title and author
 in the odt document as I would change it in the org file directly. Thus
 I don't care how the title and author is set in the odt document.

And this only comes up for me very infrequently (less than once a month,
probably much les).  Now that I know how to change the title, I'm not
bothered very much.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.0.3-193-g334581

Re: [O] export to odt

[Eric S Fraga]

Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:

[...]

 Aah, ok. Now I see what your are after.

 GO to menu entry File/Properties and then you click tab Description.
 There you can edit Title.

Indeed!  Thanks.  

 It seems that you can edit author via menu Tools/Options. Then
 choose LibreOffice/User Data and edit First/Last Name. Finally, you
 have to go to File/Properties and click on Reset (Please note, that
 there 'Apply user data' must be clicked on). 

Yikes.  Now this is definitely not straightforward.  Although it sort of
makes sense...  I may actually find it easier to edit the .odt file
directly although, even there, the information (both title and author)
is found in two places: meta.xml and content.xml.  

I am not sure why the information needs to be repeated.  It leads me to
wonder whether the meta information could remain as it is and the
exporter could generate the actual content as editable text?

 This is really weird or it is because just my knowledge about
 Libreoffice is limited. At least, I'm happy to be able to use LaTeX in
 most cases instead of an office product.

I'm with you on this!  I use LaTeX almost exclusively.  Every now and
again, unfortunately, I have to share an editable document with others
and LibreOffice/MSWord is the only easy way.  For simple dissemination,
LaTeX - PDF is better.

Thanks again for your help on this!

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.0.3-193-g334581

Re: [O] export to odt

[Manfred Lotz]

On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:37:55 +0100
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:
 
 [...]
 
 
  This is really weird or it is because just my knowledge about
  Libreoffice is limited. At least, I'm happy to be able to use LaTeX
  in most cases instead of an office product.
 
 I'm with you on this!  I use LaTeX almost exclusively.  Every now and
 again, unfortunately, I have to share an editable document with others
 and LibreOffice/MSWord is the only easy way.  For simple
 dissemination, LaTeX - PDF is better.
 


Yep, exactly. I'm grateful that the export to odt was implemented in
org-mode so that we have an option to give a finalized document away if
needed.


-- 
Manfred

Re: [O] export to odt

[Eric S Fraga]

Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:

 On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:33:56 +0100
 Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

[...]

 2. The title and author fields in the exported document are protected
 in some way and I cannot figure out how to enable editing on them.  I
  can change the style for these just fine but I cannot change the
  text.
 

 You easily can setup both title and author in your org document like
 this:

 #+TITLE: My Important Documentation
 #+AUTHOR: Manfred Lotz

 Is this what you mean?

No.  I know I can set the title and author in org.  However, sometimes,
I need to tweak the title or author information *only* in the exported
document.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.0.3-193-g334581

Re: [O] export to odt

[Manfred Lotz]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2013 08:33:55 +0100
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:
 
  On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:33:56 +0100
  Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
 
 [...]
 
  2. The title and author fields in the exported document are
  protected in some way and I cannot figure out how to enable
  editing on them.  I can change the style for these just fine but I
  cannot change the text.
  
 
  You easily can setup both title and author in your org document like
  this:
 
  #+TITLE: My Important Documentation
  #+AUTHOR: Manfred Lotz
 
  Is this what you mean?
 
 No.  I know I can set the title and author in org.  However,
 sometimes, I need to tweak the title or author information *only* in
 the exported document.
 

Aah, ok. Now I see what your are after.

GO to menu entry File/Properties and then you click tab Description.
There you can edit Title.


It seems that you can edit author via menu Tools/Options. Then
choose LibreOffice/User Data and edit First/Last Name. Finally, you
have to go to File/Properties and click on Reset (Please note, that
there 'Apply user data' must be clicked on). 

This is really weird or it is because just my knowledge about
Libreoffice is limited. At least, I'm happy to be able to use LaTeX in
most cases instead of an office product.




-- 
Manfred

Re: [O] export to odt

[Eric S Fraga]

Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:

[...]

 The following worked fine: I loaded the exported odt document, changed
 the Heading 1 style to do a page break before the heading and saved the
 template as my.ott (I copied it into the ~/org directory).

Thanks.  Very helpful.

I have two different questions about exporting to ODT, one related to
style and other not:

1. Description lists are indented somehow, both the item and the
 description.  I would like to change the indentation but the
 LibreOffice sytle dialogue doesn't show any indentation.  I cannot
 find where the indentation is specified.

2. The title and author fields in the exported document are protected in
 some way and I cannot figure out how to enable editing on them.  I
 can change the style for these just fine but I cannot change the
 text.

Can you please point me in the right direction for either or both of
these?  I am a n00b when it comes LibreOffice etc. unfortunately.

Thanks,
eric
-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.3.50.1, Org release_8.0.3-193-g334581

Re: [O] export to odt

[Manfred Lotz]

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:33:56 +0100
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:
 
 [...]
 
  The following worked fine: I loaded the exported odt document,
  changed the Heading 1 style to do a page break before the heading
  and saved the template as my.ott (I copied it into the ~/org
  directory).
 
 Thanks.  Very helpful.
 
 I have two different questions about exporting to ODT, one related to
 style and other not:
 
 1. Description lists are indented somehow, both the item and the
  description.  I would like to change the indentation but the
  LibreOffice sytle dialogue doesn't show any indentation.  I
 cannot find where the indentation is specified.
 

Hm, not quite sure about this as I am no expert regarding Libreoffice.
I will have a look if I find anything about this.

 2. The title and author fields in the exported document are protected
 in some way and I cannot figure out how to enable editing on them.  I
  can change the style for these just fine but I cannot change the
  text.
 

You easily can setup both title and author in your org document like
this:

#+TITLE: My Important Documentation
#+AUTHOR: Manfred Lotz

Is this what you mean?


-- 
Manfred

Re: [O] export to odt

[Manfred Lotz]

Hi Eric,

On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:33:56 +0100
Eric S Fraga e.fr...@ucl.ac.uk wrote:

 Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@arcor.de writes:
 
 [...]
 
  The following worked fine: I loaded the exported odt document,
  changed the Heading 1 style to do a page break before the heading
  and saved the template as my.ott (I copied it into the ~/org
  directory).
 
 Thanks.  Very helpful.
 
 I have two different questions about exporting to ODT, one related to
 style and other not:
 
 1. Description lists are indented somehow, both the item and the
  description.  I would like to change the indentation but the
  LibreOffice sytle dialogue doesn't show any indentation.  I
 cannot find where the indentation is specified.
 

I found the following. You open the Modify Dialog for style
OrgDescriptionList. Here you choose tab Position. Then you can modify
indentation for level 1 and 2.

Example:
org mode:

  - dog :: is an animal 

In odt document

   dog 
  is an animal

Then dog is level 1 and 'is an animal' is level 2.


Then as previously described the style could be saved in an .ott file
and be specified in the org file itself.


Hope this helps.


-- 
Manfred

Re: [O] export to odt

[Christian Moe]

Hi,

Manfred Lotz writes:
 My question: Is there an easy way to configure the odt export to do a
 page break before switching to a Heading 1 line? In the end I would
 like to view a Heading 1 like a chapter in a LaTeX book class.

It's easier to use LibreOffice to modify the Heading 1 paragraph style
to always have a page break before. It's an option on the Text Flow
tab on the Edit Paragraph Style dialogue. You can save the style and
reuse it, cf. 12.9.4 Applying custom styles in the manual.

Yours,
Christian

Re: [O] Export as ODT, as ODT file is opening document automatically

[John Hendy]

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com wrote:

 I cannot replicate this. `C-c C-e o o' works as expected. I don't use
 openwith, so that may be where the problem lies.

Yup. It's not actually openwith itself, but I tracked it down to:

(openwith-mode t)

I only have this setup for using Sunrise Commander (Emacs file
manager) so I can open files from it. Something must be triggering
openwith on Org-mode export to ODT. Can one set a conditional use of a
mode? I'd be happy to adjust my config so that openwith only turns on
when I use Sunrise.


Best regards,
John


 Yours,
 Christian

 John Hendy writes:

 I'm on =release_8.0-pre-181-ge7cfb4= and with =C-e o o=, LibreOffice
 immediately opens the file. I'd expect this with =C-e o O=, but not
 with =C-e o o=.

 I noticed that I have an openwith process running =soffice
 /path/to/file.odt=... is the exporter somehow triggering openwith to
 open it even though I haven't said to do so upon export? Here's my
 settings in .emacs:

 (openwith-associations (quote ((\\.pdf\\' evince (file))
 (\\.mp3\\' vlc (file)) (\\.\\(?:mpe?g\\|avi\\|wmv\\|mov\\)\\'
 vlc (-idx file)) (\\.\\(?:jp?g\\|png\\)\\' geeqie (file))
 (\\.\\(?:odg\\|odt\\|docx\\|doc\\)\\' soffice (file))
 (\\.\\(?:odp\\|ppt\\|pptx\\)\\' soffice (file))
 (\\.\\(?:xls\\|xlsx\\|ods\\)\\' soffice (file)


 John

[O] Export as ODT, as ODT file is opening document automatically

[John Hendy]

I'm on =release_8.0-pre-181-ge7cfb4= and with =C-e o o=, LibreOffice
immediately opens the file. I'd expect this with =C-e o O=, but not
with =C-e o o=.

I noticed that I have an openwith process running =soffice
/path/to/file.odt=... is the exporter somehow triggering openwith to
open it even though I haven't said to do so upon export? Here's my
settings in .emacs:

(openwith-associations (quote ((\\.pdf\\' evince (file))
(\\.mp3\\' vlc (file)) (\\.\\(?:mpe?g\\|avi\\|wmv\\|mov\\)\\'
vlc (-idx file)) (\\.\\(?:jp?g\\|png\\)\\' geeqie (file))
(\\.\\(?:odg\\|odt\\|docx\\|doc\\)\\' soffice (file))
(\\.\\(?:odp\\|ppt\\|pptx\\)\\' soffice (file))
(\\.\\(?:xls\\|xlsx\\|ods\\)\\' soffice (file)


John

Re: [O] Export as ODT, as ODT file is opening document automatically

[Christian Moe]

I cannot replicate this. `C-c C-e o o' works as expected. I don't use
openwith, so that may be where the problem lies.

Yours,
Christian

John Hendy writes:

 I'm on =release_8.0-pre-181-ge7cfb4= and with =C-e o o=, LibreOffice
 immediately opens the file. I'd expect this with =C-e o O=, but not
 with =C-e o o=.

 I noticed that I have an openwith process running =soffice
 /path/to/file.odt=... is the exporter somehow triggering openwith to
 open it even though I haven't said to do so upon export? Here's my
 settings in .emacs:

 (openwith-associations (quote ((\\.pdf\\' evince (file))
 (\\.mp3\\' vlc (file)) (\\.\\(?:mpe?g\\|avi\\|wmv\\|mov\\)\\'
 vlc (-idx file)) (\\.\\(?:jp?g\\|png\\)\\' geeqie (file))
 (\\.\\(?:odg\\|odt\\|docx\\|doc\\)\\' soffice (file))
 (\\.\\(?:odp\\|ppt\\|pptx\\)\\' soffice (file))
 (\\.\\(?:xls\\|xlsx\\|ods\\)\\' soffice (file)


 John

Re: [O] export to ODT

[Jambunathan K]

Henri 

Info manual has some useful info on odt exporter. See

http://orgmode.org/manual/OpenDocumentText-export.html#OpenDocumentText-export

It's relatively a reliable way to explore the capabilities of the
exporter.


 I got the following line in my *Messages* buffer:

 Use of MathJax is incompatible with ODT exporter. Using dvipng instead.


 I do know about this MathJax.  

(Very roughly) what this message tries to convey is this: 

If you have LaTeX fragments in your Org file you are better off using
dvipng instead of MathJax.  This message concerns with the following
config line (implicit or explicit)

--8---cut here---start-8---
#+OPTIONS: LaTeX:t
--8---cut here---end---8---

It is also a cue to the developer that ODT and HTML exporter still needs
LaTeX-MathML functionality.

If it doesn't trouble you don't bother about it much.

 When the odt file is loading I get a message window from LibreOffice
 with a general error.  Then it goes away and the file continues
 loading.  

In my experience this typically happens when the XML is *not*
well-formed. If OpenOffice thinks that it can get around to recover from
the non-well-formedness, then it continues loading the file by repairing
it. In othercases, OpenOffice may not be able to recover from the
malformed XML and in that it case it simply says the file is corrupt and
resigns from the task at hand.

One thing you could do for identifying the root cause of this error is:

1. Switch to *.odt buffer (C-x n whatever.odt)
2. Open the content.xml  (Hit RET on content.xml)
3. Do a C-u C-c C-n (M-x rng-first-error)

You will be able to identify the error and surrounding the context which
is problematic.

This will help you with constructing a minimal sample that reproduces
the error.

 There are a few issues with merging lines and no space in between
 them, but overall it looks great.

Please add few more lines of description. Send me a minimal sample that
reconstructs these issues.


 Thanks to the developer(s) or org-odt!!!

Thanks for trying out org-odt and feeding back your experiences.

 Best,
 Henri-Paul

-- 

[O] export to ODT

[Henri-Paul Indiogine]

Dear orgmoders,

I am an intermediate emacs + org-mode user.  I would like to ask you for
instructions on how to install the org - ODT converter.  I googled for
instructions but they are above my level of understanding.

I run the git development versions and update it daily.  I run GNU
Emacs 24 on Ubuntu Maverick (10.10).

Thanks and best regards,

Henri-Paul


-- 
Henri-Paul Indiogine
Email: hindiog...@gmail.com
Running: Ubuntu Linux 10.10, Emacs 24.0.50.1, org-mode 7.5

Re: [O] export to ODT

[Nick Dokos]

Henri-Paul Indiogine hindiog...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear orgmoders,
 
 I am an intermediate emacs + org-mode user.  I would like to ask you for
 instructions on how to install the org - ODT converter.  I googled for
 instructions but they are above my level of understanding.
 
 I run the git development versions and update it daily.  I run GNU
 Emacs 24 on Ubuntu Maverick (10.10).
 

It's been pulled into contrib/ so all you have to do is make sure that
the contrib/lisp directory is in your load-path and then C-c C-e o (or
C-c C-e O) - at least, it did for me on a simple org file.

Nick

Re: [O] export to ODT

[Henri-Paul Indiogine]

Hi Nick!

Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com writes:
 It's been pulled into contrib/ so all you have to do is make sure that
 the contrib/lisp directory is in your load-path and then C-c C-e o (or
 C-c C-e O) - at least, it did for me on a simple org file.

Thanks!  That is easier than I thought.  I have now the following
lines in my .emacs :

(add-to-list 'load-path ~/elisp/org-mode/lisp)
(add-to-list 'load-path ~/elisp/org-mode/contrib/lisp)
(require 'org-install)
(require 'org-exp)
(require 'org-latex)

I got the following line in my *Messages* buffer:

Use of MathJax is incompatible with ODT exporter. Using dvipng instead.


I do know about this MathJax.  When the odt file is loading I get a
message window from LibreOffice with a general error.  Then it goes away
and the file continues loading.  There are a few issues with merging
lines and no space in between them, but overall it looks great.

Thanks to the developer(s) or org-odt!!!

Best,
Henri-Paul




-- 
Henri-Paul Indiogine
Email: hindiog...@gmail.com
Running: Ubuntu Linux 10.10, Emacs 24.0.50.1, org-mode 7.5