Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-08 Thread Charles Millar


On 09/08/2016 12:16 AM, Nick Dokos wrote:

Grant Rettke  writes:


On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Charles Millar  wrote:

Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was not
working and when. I know that it wasn't me.

So you aren't saying that just the list for org-mode is broken you are
saying that all GNU mailing list archives are broken?!



I don't know if Charles has tried other lists on lists.gnu.org - I have only
tried searching the org-mode list, so I can only confirm that that one seems
broken.


Just the org mode list. Apologize for the confusion!
Charlie



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-08 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Wednesday,  7 Sep 2016 at 21:03, Nick Dokos wrote:

[...]

> Now that Gmane is being resurrected[1], I hope that things will be
> more or less back to normal in fairly short order.

Yes, Lars posted on his blog about this.  The site is back up for
reading but no search yet.

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-07 Thread Nick Dokos
Grant Rettke  writes:

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Charles Millar  wrote:
>> Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was not
>> working and when. I know that it wasn't me.
>
> So you aren't saying that just the list for org-mode is broken you are
> saying that all GNU mailing list archives are broken?!
>
>

I don't know if Charles has tried other lists on lists.gnu.org - I have only
tried searching the org-mode list, so I can only confirm that that one seems
broken.

-- 
Nick




Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-07 Thread Grant Rettke
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Charles Millar  wrote:
> Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was not
> working and when. I know that it wasn't me.

So you aren't saying that just the list for org-mode is broken you are
saying that all GNU mailing list archives are broken?!



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-07 Thread Charles Millar



On 09/07/2016 05:03 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:

Eric S Fraga  writes:


On Tuesday,  6 Sep 2016 at 11:07, Charles Millar wrote:

The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to
two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has
happened!

Are you sure it's been broken that long?  I don't use it often but I
thought I used it more recently than that.  Oh well, doesn't matter;
just curious.  The key is that it's broken now but at least there are
alternatives.


I'm not sure whether Charles is referring to Gmane search or the
lists.gnu.org search: I understood it to be the latter. If he indeed
means the latter, I can agree that it seems broken.  It might just be
that the index is not being rebuilt regularly, or there might be some
deeper problem, but I have found it to be unusable.
Yes I did mean lists.gnu.org. Since April 2015, at least, I have 
occasionally gone to the search engine for that list to see if it has 
been repaired and I have had no luck. Either it has never been repaired 
or I somehow mange to chose just the "right" time when it is down, again.

Gmane (while it was still alive) broke a few times but it was always
repaired fairly quickly (I nagged Lars a couple of times about it, so
I may have indirectly contributed to him giving up in disgust ;-) ).
Now that Gmane is being resurrected[1], I hope that things will be
more or less back to normal in fairly short order.

[1] see another post of mine in this thread - although bear in mind
 that my posts seem to take 12 hours to appear on the list; no
 idea why.
Great! Then I can find who first reported that lists.gnu.org search was 
not working and when. I know that it wasn't me.


As I recall Nicolas G. suggested that I contact whoever maintained the 
list (he gave the address) and report this. I did, but no response.


Charlie Millar



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-07 Thread Nick Dokos
Eric S Fraga  writes:

> On Tuesday,  6 Sep 2016 at 11:07, Charles Millar wrote:
>> The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to
>> two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has
>> happened!
>
> Are you sure it's been broken that long?  I don't use it often but I
> thought I used it more recently than that.  Oh well, doesn't matter;
> just curious.  The key is that it's broken now but at least there are
> alternatives.
>

I'm not sure whether Charles is referring to Gmane search or the
lists.gnu.org search: I understood it to be the latter. If he indeed
means the latter, I can agree that it seems broken.  It might just be
that the index is not being rebuilt regularly, or there might be some
deeper problem, but I have found it to be unusable.

Gmane (while it was still alive) broke a few times but it was always
repaired fairly quickly (I nagged Lars a couple of times about it, so
I may have indirectly contributed to him giving up in disgust ;-) ).
Now that Gmane is being resurrected[1], I hope that things will be
more or less back to normal in fairly short order.

[1] see another post of mine in this thread - although bear in mind
that my posts seem to take 12 hours to appear on the list; no
idea why.
-- 
Nick




Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-06 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday,  6 Sep 2016 at 11:07, Charles Millar wrote:
> The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to
> two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has
> happened!

Are you sure it's been broken that long?  I don't use it often but I
thought I used it more recently than that.  Oh well, doesn't matter;
just curious.  The key is that it's broken now but at least there are
alternatives.

I'll check out MailArchive, as you indicated in another post to this
list.

Thanks,
eric

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-06 Thread Charles Millar


On 09/05/2016 11:50 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

Dear all,

do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
current problems with gmane?


I have been using MailArchive.  A few weeks ago. Lars Magne mentioned 
this as an alternative.


Also, I have added the newsgroup in my Thunderbir. However, I have not 
downloaded the entire 100,000+ messages (only about 1K). Maybe 
downloading headers only and searching through those would help?


gnus is having problems when I attempt to download the 
subscribed/unsubscribed lists.


Charlie Millar



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-06 Thread Charles Millar

On 09/06/2016 02:29 AM, Eric S Fraga wrote:

On Tuesday,  6 Sep 2016 at 01:48, Grant Rettke wrote:

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga  wrote:

do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
current problems with gmane?

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/

Thanks!
I would be lost without access to the mailing list.
The mail list search has been broken for more than one year (close to 
two). I and others have asked that it be repaired and nothing has happened!


Charlie Millar



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Tuesday,  6 Sep 2016 at 01:48, Grant Rettke wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga  wrote:
>> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
>> current problems with gmane?
>
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/

Thanks!
I would be lost without access to the mailing list. 
-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476



Re: [O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-05 Thread Grant Rettke
On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 10:50 AM, Eric S Fraga  wrote:
> do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
> current problems with gmane?

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/



[O] mailing list search given problems with gmane?

2016-09-05 Thread Eric S Fraga
Dear all,

do we have any alternative means to search the mailing list given the
current problems with gmane?

Thanks,
eric

-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.94.1, Org release_8.3.5-1070-g190476