Re: [O] newbye questions [the nnir-article-group issue]

[Alain . Cochard]

Eric Abrahamsen writes on Tue 13 Jun 2017 08:41:
 > alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes:
 > 
 > > Eric Abrahamsen writes on Sun 11 Jun 2017 14:37:
 > >  > alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes:
 > >  > 
 > >  > >>Fran?ois Patte  writes:
 > >  > >>
 > >  > >>> Le 05/06/2017 ? 12:07, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
 > >  >  Fran?ois Patte  writes:
 > >  >  
 > >  > > Le 05/06/2017 ? 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
 > >  > >> Fran?ois Patte  writes:
 > >  > >>
 > >  > >>> Bonjour,
 > >  > >>>
 > >  > >>> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
 > >  > >>> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
 > >  > >>>
 > >  > >>> I have a few preliminary questions:
 > >  > >>>
 > >  > >>> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message
 > >  > >>> when I open a *.org file:
 > >  > >>> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to
 > >  > >>> define function nnir-article-group")
 > >  > >>>
 > >  > >>> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.
 > >
 > > [...]
 > >
 > >  Hi Eric, thanks much for the feedback.
 > >
 > >  > That was very useful, thanks for the detailed report! Looks like it's
 > >  > the same as this:
 > >  > 
 > >  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1177978
 > >  > 
 > >  > Looks like uninstalling an emacs-goodies package might do the trick?
 > >
 > > Yes it did!  Also, the error is not present on another machine (with
 > > Fedora 23) on which I could perform a test, with simply the command
 > > 'emacs' and a void .emacs file -- and of course the emacs-goodies
 > > packages installed on that machine:
 > >
 > > Org mode version 9.0.8 (9.0.8-elpa @ /root/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170606/)
 > >
 > > GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) of
 > > 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org
 > >
 > > Linux fruc.u-strasbg.fr 4.8.13-100.fc23.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 9
 > > 14:51:40 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 > >
 > >> Anyway, you're meant to be loading nnir.el from
 > >> emacs//lisp/gnus/nnir.el, not site/lisp/gnus-bonus.
 > >
 > > So in your opinion what is the best to do in order to avoid this error
 > > message, and, above all, the possible consequences related to this
 > > problem? -- so far, I have not noticed any, but who knows...
 > >
 > > - get rid of the file /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/nnir.el?
 > > - get rid of the dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/altogether?
 > > - something else?
 > >
 > > Because uninstalling the emacs-goodies packages sound rather
 > > extreme...  NB: I uses gnus very rarely.
 > 
 > Perhaps you could doctor your load-path early in the init process, so
 > that /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp comes later, and is shadowed by
 > emacs//lisp? On my machine the relevant load-path elements are
 > ordered as:
 > 
 > /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/site-lisp
 > /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
 > /usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp
 > 
 > If that's the case on your machine as well, perhaps you could remove
 > emacs/site-lisp, and re-add it at the end of the list. That has the
 > potential to break other things, though...

Yes, that's the same for me.  I'll try to investigate along that
line.  Thanks again for your time.

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Re: [O] newbye questions [the nnir-article-group issue]

[Eric Abrahamsen]

alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes:

> Eric Abrahamsen writes on Sun 11 Jun 2017 14:37:
>  > alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes:
>  > 
>  > >>Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>  > >>
>  > >>> Le 05/06/2017 ? 12:07, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
>  >  Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>  >  
>  > > Le 05/06/2017 ? 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
>  > >> Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>  > >>
>  > >>> Bonjour,
>  > >>>
>  > >>> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
>  > >>> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
>  > >>>
>  > >>> I have a few preliminary questions:
>  > >>>
>  > >>> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message
>  > >>> when I open a *.org file:
>  > >>> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to
>  > >>> define function nnir-article-group")
>  > >>>
>  > >>> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.
>
> [...]
>
>  Hi Eric, thanks much for the feedback.
>
>  > That was very useful, thanks for the detailed report! Looks like it's
>  > the same as this:
>  > 
>  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1177978
>  > 
>  > Looks like uninstalling an emacs-goodies package might do the trick?
>
> Yes it did!  Also, the error is not present on another machine (with
> Fedora 23) on which I could perform a test, with simply the command
> 'emacs' and a void .emacs file -- and of course the emacs-goodies
> packages installed on that machine:
>
> Org mode version 9.0.8 (9.0.8-elpa @ /root/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170606/)
>
> GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) of
> 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org
>
> Linux fruc.u-strasbg.fr 4.8.13-100.fc23.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 9
> 14:51:40 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
>> Anyway, you're meant to be loading nnir.el from
>> emacs//lisp/gnus/nnir.el, not site/lisp/gnus-bonus.
>
> So in your opinion what is the best to do in order to avoid this error
> message, and, above all, the possible consequences related to this
> problem? -- so far, I have not noticed any, but who knows...
>
> - get rid of the file /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/nnir.el?
> - get rid of the dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/altogether?
> - something else?
>
> Because uninstalling the emacs-goodies packages sound rather
> extreme...  NB: I uses gnus very rarely.

Perhaps you could doctor your load-path early in the init process, so
that /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp comes later, and is shadowed by
emacs//lisp? On my machine the relevant load-path elements are
ordered as:

/usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/site-lisp
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp
/usr/local/share/emacs/26.0.50/lisp

If that's the case on your machine as well, perhaps you could remove
emacs/site-lisp, and re-add it at the end of the list. That has the
potential to break other things, though...

Eric

Re: [O] newbye questions [the nnir-article-group issue]

[Alain . Cochard]

Eric Abrahamsen writes on Sun 11 Jun 2017 14:37:
 > alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes:
 > 
 > >>Fran?ois Patte  writes:
 > >>
 > >>> Le 05/06/2017 ? 12:07, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
 >  Fran?ois Patte  writes:
 >  
 > > Le 05/06/2017 ? 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
 > >> Fran?ois Patte  writes:
 > >>
 > >>> Bonjour,
 > >>>
 > >>> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
 > >>> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
 > >>>
 > >>> I have a few preliminary questions:
 > >>>
 > >>> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message
 > >>> when I open a *.org file:
 > >>> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to
 > >>> define function nnir-article-group")
 > >>>
 > >>> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.

[...]

 Hi Eric, thanks much for the feedback.

 > That was very useful, thanks for the detailed report! Looks like it's
 > the same as this:
 > 
 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1177978
 > 
 > Looks like uninstalling an emacs-goodies package might do the trick?

Yes it did!  Also, the error is not present on another machine (with
Fedora 23) on which I could perform a test, with simply the command
'emacs' and a void .emacs file -- and of course the emacs-goodies
packages installed on that machine:

Org mode version 9.0.8 (9.0.8-elpa @ /root/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170606/)

GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) of
2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org

Linux fruc.u-strasbg.fr 4.8.13-100.fc23.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Dec 9
14:51:40 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

> Anyway, you're meant to be loading nnir.el from
> emacs//lisp/gnus/nnir.el, not site/lisp/gnus-bonus.

So in your opinion what is the best to do in order to avoid this error
message, and, above all, the possible consequences related to this
problem? -- so far, I have not noticed any, but who knows...

- get rid of the file /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/nnir.el?
- get rid of the dir /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/altogether?
- something else?

Because uninstalling the emacs-goodies packages sound rather
extreme...  NB: I uses gnus very rarely.

Regards,
a.

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Re: [O] newbye questions [the nnir-article-group issue]

[Eric Abrahamsen]

alain.coch...@unistra.fr writes:

>>Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>>
>>> Le 05/06/2017 ? 12:07, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
 Fran?ois Patte  writes:
 
> Le 05/06/2017 ? 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
>> Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
>>> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
>>>
>>> I have a few preliminary questions:
>>>
>>> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message
>>> when I open a *.org file:
>>> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to
>>> define function nnir-article-group")
>>>
>>> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.

[...]

> I certainly don't have more experience, but maybe it will help if I
> report my own.
>
> I have the very same problem with the following configuration:
>
> Org mode version 9.0.8 (9.0.8-elpa @
> /home/cochard/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170606/)
>
> GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12) of
> 2015-05-07 on buildvm-08.phx2.fedoraproject.org
>
> 'uname -a' gives: Linux frac.u-strasbg.fr 4.1.13-100.fc21.x86_64 #1
> SMP Tue Nov 10 13:13:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> I've had this problem since I updated org ELPA on 24 dec 2016 (NB: I
> have not changed my GNU emacs version or GNU/Linux distribution).
>
>
> I performed the following tests (all independently from one another),
> all with a void .emacs file.
>
> (1) With 'emacs --no-site-file'
>
> -> the error is present.
>
> (2) With 'emacs --no-site-file' 
>
> and after commenting the line
>
> (autoload 'nnir-article-group "nnir" nil nil 'macro)
>
> in file /usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el (after having
> gunzip'ed it) and also after having hidden the corresponding .elc file
>
> -> the error is not present.
>
> (3) With 'emacs --no-site-file --no-site-lisp'
>
> -> the error is not present.
>
> (4) With 'emacs --no-site-file'
>
> and after hiding files nnir.el and nnir.elc, which are in dir
> /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus
>
> -> the error is not present.
>
> The begining of file /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/ is
>
> ;;; nnir.el --- search mail with various search engines -*- coding: 
> iso-8859-1 -*-
> ;; Copyright (C) 1998 Kai Großjohann
>
> ;; $Id: nnir.el,v 1.1.1.1 2003-04-04 20:16:09 lolando Exp $
>
> This file contains: (require 'gnus-sum)

That was very useful, thanks for the detailed report! Looks like it's
the same as this:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1177978

Looks like uninstalling an emacs-goodies package might do the trick?
Anyway, you're meant to be loading nnir.el from
emacs//lisp/gnus/nnir.el, not site/lisp/gnus-bonus.

Eric

Re: [O] newbye questions [the nnir-article-group issue]

[Alain . Cochard]

>Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>
>> Le 05/06/2017 ? 12:07, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
>>> Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>>> 
 Le 05/06/2017 ? 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a ?crit :
> Fran?ois Patte  writes:
>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
>> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
>>
>> I have a few preliminary questions:
>>
>> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message
>> when I open a *.org file:
>> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to
>> define function nnir-article-group")
>>
>> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.

> That's a macro from Gnus, the mail/news client. I'm not quite
> sure why it would be getting triggered from Org. Would you run
> `toggle-debug-on-error', and trigger the warning again?

 I don't know much with the lisp syntax; here is what I have done:
 opened emacs,
 M-x  toggle-debug-on-error RET
 C-f file.org

 And the message is still there

 This message does not appear if I open file without the .org
>>> extension.

>>> Sorry -- of course it's a *warning*, not an error.
>>> 
>>> My only guess is that this is caused by the call to
>>> `nnir-article-group' inside `org-gnus-store-link' in the file
>>> org-gnus.el. That file has
>>> 
>>> (eval-when-compile (require 'gnus-sum))
>>> 
>>> And gnus-sum.el has:
>>> 
>>> (autoload 'nnir-article-group "nnir" nil nil 'macro)
>>> 
>>> So theoretically that should take care of it.
>>> 
>>> What version of Emacs are you using?

>>
>> 25.2.1
>>
>> and org-mode version: 9.0.7 (from elpa)

> I'm sorry, I just don't know enough about how Emacs loads and
> evaluates these forms to tell you what's going wrong. The nnir macro
> should definitely be available in your setup. I don't even know why
> loading that Org library would make it complain.
> 
> Hopefully someone with more experience can take it from here. Sorry!

I certainly don't have more experience, but maybe it will help if I
report my own.

I have the very same problem with the following configuration:

Org mode version 9.0.8 (9.0.8-elpa @
/home/cochard/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20170606/)

GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.12) of
2015-05-07 on buildvm-08.phx2.fedoraproject.org

'uname -a' gives: Linux frac.u-strasbg.fr 4.1.13-100.fc21.x86_64 #1
SMP Tue Nov 10 13:13:20 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I've had this problem since I updated org ELPA on 24 dec 2016 (NB: I
have not changed my GNU emacs version or GNU/Linux distribution).


I performed the following tests (all independently from one another),
all with a void .emacs file.

(1) With 'emacs --no-site-file'

-> the error is present.

(2) With 'emacs --no-site-file' 

and after commenting the line

(autoload 'nnir-article-group "nnir" nil nil 'macro)

in file /usr/share/emacs/24.5/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el (after having
gunzip'ed it) and also after having hidden the corresponding .elc file

-> the error is not present.

(3) With 'emacs --no-site-file --no-site-lisp'

-> the error is not present.

(4) With 'emacs --no-site-file'

and after hiding files nnir.el and nnir.elc, which are in dir
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus

-> the error is not present.

The begining of file /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnus-bonus/ is

;;; nnir.el --- search mail with various search engines -*- coding: iso-8859-1 
-*-
;; Copyright (C) 1998 Kai Großjohann

;; $Id: nnir.el,v 1.1.1.1 2003-04-04 20:16:09 lolando Exp $

This file contains: (require 'gnus-sum)


Regards, Alain




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Re: [O] newbye questions

[Eric Abrahamsen]

François Patte  writes:

> Le 05/06/2017 à 12:07, Eric Abrahamsen a écrit :
>> François Patte  writes:
>> 
>>> Le 05/06/2017 à 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a écrit :
 François Patte  writes:

> Bonjour,
>
> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
>
> I have a few preliminary questions:
>
> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message when I
> open a *.org file:
>
> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to define
> function nnir-article-group")
>
> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.

 That's a macro from Gnus, the mail/news client. I'm not quite sure why
 it would be getting triggered from Org. Would you run
 `toggle-debug-on-error', and trigger the warning again?
>>>
>>> I don't know much with the lisp syntax; here is what I have done:
>>> opened emacs,
>>> M-x  toggle-debug-on-error RET
>>> C-f file.org
>>>
>>> And the message is still there
>>>
>>> This message does not appear if I open file without the .org extension.
>> 
>> Sorry -- of course it's a *warning*, not an error.
>> 
>> My only guess is that this is caused by the call to `nnir-article-group'
>> inside `org-gnus-store-link' in the file org-gnus.el. That file has
>> 
>> (eval-when-compile (require 'gnus-sum))
>> 
>> And gnus-sum.el has:
>> 
>> (autoload 'nnir-article-group "nnir" nil nil 'macro)
>> 
>> So theoretically that should take care of it.
>> 
>> What version of Emacs are you using?
>
> 25.2.1
>
> and org-mode version: 9.0.7 (from elpa)

I'm sorry, I just don't know enough about how Emacs loads and evaluates
these forms to tell you what's going wrong. The nnir macro should
definitely be available in your setup. I don't even know why loading
that Org library would make it complain.

Hopefully someone with more experience can take it from here. Sorry!

E

Re: [O] newbye questions

[François Patte]

Le 05/06/2017 à 12:07, Eric Abrahamsen a écrit :
> François Patte  writes:
> 
>> Le 05/06/2017 à 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a écrit :
>>> François Patte  writes:
>>>
 Bonjour,

 Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
 capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.

 I have a few preliminary questions:

 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message when I
 open a *.org file:

 Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to define
 function nnir-article-group")

 What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.
>>>
>>> That's a macro from Gnus, the mail/news client. I'm not quite sure why
>>> it would be getting triggered from Org. Would you run
>>> `toggle-debug-on-error', and trigger the warning again?
>>
>> I don't know much with the lisp syntax; here is what I have done:
>> opened emacs,
>> M-x  toggle-debug-on-error RET
>> C-f file.org
>>
>> And the message is still there
>>
>> This message does not appear if I open file without the .org extension.
> 
> Sorry -- of course it's a *warning*, not an error.
> 
> My only guess is that this is caused by the call to `nnir-article-group'
> inside `org-gnus-store-link' in the file org-gnus.el. That file has
> 
> (eval-when-compile (require 'gnus-sum))
> 
> And gnus-sum.el has:
> 
> (autoload 'nnir-article-group "nnir" nil nil 'macro)
> 
> So theoretically that should take care of it.
> 
> What version of Emacs are you using?

25.2.1

and org-mode version: 9.0.7 (from elpa)


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Re: [O] newbye questions

[Eric Abrahamsen]

François Patte  writes:

> Le 05/06/2017 à 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a écrit :
>> François Patte  writes:
>> 
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
>>> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
>>>
>>> I have a few preliminary questions:
>>>
>>> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message when I
>>> open a *.org file:
>>>
>>> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to define
>>> function nnir-article-group")
>>>
>>> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.
>> 
>> That's a macro from Gnus, the mail/news client. I'm not quite sure why
>> it would be getting triggered from Org. Would you run
>> `toggle-debug-on-error', and trigger the warning again?
>
> I don't know much with the lisp syntax; here is what I have done:
> opened emacs,
> M-x  toggle-debug-on-error RET
> C-f file.org
>
> And the message is still there
>
> This message does not appear if I open file without the .org extension.

Sorry -- of course it's a *warning*, not an error.

My only guess is that this is caused by the call to `nnir-article-group'
inside `org-gnus-store-link' in the file org-gnus.el. That file has

(eval-when-compile (require 'gnus-sum))

And gnus-sum.el has:

(autoload 'nnir-article-group "nnir" nil nil 'macro)

So theoretically that should take care of it.

What version of Emacs are you using?

I really don't know why this would be happening (I'm not very good at
debugging compile/load errors), but I'll bet the above is the source of
the problem.

Eric

Re: [O] newbye questions

[François Patte]

Le 05/06/2017 à 01:33, Eric Abrahamsen a écrit :
> François Patte  writes:
> 
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
>> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
>>
>> I have a few preliminary questions:
>>
>> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message when I
>> open a *.org file:
>>
>> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to define
>> function nnir-article-group")
>>
>> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.
> 
> That's a macro from Gnus, the mail/news client. I'm not quite sure why
> it would be getting triggered from Org. Would you run
> `toggle-debug-on-error', and trigger the warning again?

I don't know much with the lisp syntax; here is what I have done:
opened emacs,
M-x  toggle-debug-on-error RET
C-f file.org

And the message is still there

This message does not appear if I open file without the .org extension.


-- 
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte



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Re: [O] newbye questions

[Eric Abrahamsen]

François Patte  writes:

> Bonjour,
>
> Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
> capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.
>
> I have a few preliminary questions:
>
> 1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message when I
> open a *.org file:
>
> Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to define
> function nnir-article-group")
>
> What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.

That's a macro from Gnus, the mail/news client. I'm not quite sure why
it would be getting triggered from Org. Would you run
`toggle-debug-on-error', and trigger the warning again?

Eric

Re: [O] newbye questions

[Nick Dokos]

François Patte  writes:

> 2- I looked at some tutorials (for instance this one:
> http://hiko-seijuro.developpez.com/articles/orgtutorial/)
>
> It is said at the early beginning for a TODO list, that if you hit C-c
> C-t TODO turns into DONE (that's right) and that a timestamp is
> automatically added:
> CLOSED: [date for closing]
>
> I cannot get this behaviour I googled and find some list code to add
> to my .emacs file, but this does not work
>

(setq org-log-done 'time)

See the section "Closing items" in the Org manual.

-- 
Nick

[O] newbye questions

[François Patte]

Bonjour,

Ijust discovered org-mode for emacs and I want to explore the
capabilities of this mode for LaTeX documents.

I have a few preliminary questions:

1- I installed org-mode from ELPA and I get a warning message when I
open a *.org file:

Eager macro-expansion failure: (error "Autoloading failed to define
function nnir-article-group")

What does it mean and how to get rid of this message.

2- I looked at some tutorials (for instance this one:
http://hiko-seijuro.developpez.com/articles/orgtutorial/)

It is said at the early beginning for a TODO list, that if you hit C-c
C-t TODO turns into DONE (that's right) and that a timestamp is
automatically added:
CLOSED: [date for closing]

I cannot get this behaviour I googled and find some list code to add
to my .emacs file, but this does not work

What can I do?

Thank you.

-- 
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte



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