Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
Torsten Wagner torsten.wag...@gmail.com writes: There is jabref [1]. Exactly. I was also going to point out JabRef. I have had Bibtex illiterates manageing Bib files using JabRef. It also claims to have a Openoffice support never tried. I tried it once and it works very nice. There were annoying limitations in OOo built-in bib. manager. I know JabRef used the proper solution cause references and the litterature list was set in the document with that grey color that is also used by the TOC. Hence, if you are going to use a bib-file in OOo JabRef seems to be the way to go. Still, an Org-Centric solutoin based on \cite would be best. –Rasmus -- Sent from my Emacs
Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
Hello Henri
org-odt doesn't support bibliographic content. So what you are reporting
is what is expected.
I am no academic or a researcher. So I have no understanding of
bibliographies - their representation, management etc.
If you send me an Org file and a HAND-CRAFTED odt file matching it then
I would be able to reverse-engineer the odt document that you supply,
understand what meets your needs and add support for the same.
From the OpenOffice UI, I remember seeing entries for creating
Bibliographic indices etc. So I would assume that Bibliographic content
can be represented in a much native manner with OpenDocument formats.
Jambunathan K.
Greetings!
I am starting to use org-odt and I find it very useful. I am wondering
whether it is possible to export also my bibliography. In the org file
I have the following:
---
blah blah blah \citecf{Apple:1992a,Payne:1999a,Martin:2003a}.
blah blah blah
---
Then later:
\bibliographystyle{apacite}
\bibliography{/home/henk/Dropbox/dissertation/bibdata-neuf}
The above text from the org file is transferred verbatim to the odt
file. The same happens to the footnotes.
I understand that the org-odt code is still under development and that
the developer is doing this from the goodness of his heart. I am just
wondering whether I am missing something, doing something incorrectly,
or this is maybe going to be a future feature.
Thanks,
Henri-Paul
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Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
Hi Jambunathan, On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com wrote: From the OpenOffice UI, I remember seeing entries for creating Bibliographic indices etc. So I would assume that Bibliographic content can be represented in a much native manner with OpenDocument formats. I don't use the OpenOffice facility for bibliographies myself but if you are interested, the link below might prove helpful. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOoAuthors_User_Manual/Writer_Guide/Creating_a_bibliography -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.
Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
Dear Jambunathan: Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: If you send me an Org file and a HAND-CRAFTED odt file matching it then I would be able to reverse-engineer the odt document that you supply, understand what meets your needs and add support for the same. I am writing a proposal+dissertation. The thesis office accepts LaTeX/pdf formats and I love LaTeX. So far I have always used the org - LaTeX conversion. However, my advisor uses the #$@! MS Word and wants doc format. So, I thought about exporting to odt and then save-as in doc from LibreOffice. The conversion from org - LaTeX - pdf works quite well with my bibliography. I have never done a bibliography in odt format. I only use LibreOffice to open doc files. So, I do not know about bibliography in odt because I do my bibliography in org/LaTeX where it works quite well. I will look into whether it is possible to convert from bibtex to odt. Best, Henri-Paul -- Henri-Paul Indiogine Email: hindiog...@gmail.com Running: Ubuntu Linux 10.10, Emacs 24.0.50.1, org-mode 7.5
[O] org-odt and bibliography
Hi Torsten! 2011/7/7 Torsten Anders torsten.and...@beds.ac.uk: For bibliographies in MS Word and/or OpenOffice you may wan to check out Zotero (http://www.zotero.org/) and its extensions for these platforms. Yes, good idea. I installed Zotero. Too bad there is no extension for Chrome, but using Firefox is still much, much better than using IE. Which I could not because I run Ubuntu Linux. PS: If you are writing a thesis and you may later want to publish things, then it is useful to follow the advice of your supervisor and also be able to have your text in a word processor format, as many publishers require such a format (granted, some will also accept Latex). Yes, but the sad thing is that using emacs+orgmode is so fast, easy and productive. Writer or Word feel so clunky and backwards. They are simply painful to use. I also like the black background and faces of my personalized Emacs configuration. My fingers fly over the keyboard in Emacs and lines of text appear almost magically :-) Best, HP -- Henri-Paul Indiogine Curriculum Instruction Texas AM University TutorFind Learning Centre Email: hindiog...@gmail.com Skype: hindiogine Website: http://people.cehd.tamu.edu/~sindiogine
Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Henri-Paul Indiogine hindiog...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Torsten! 2011/7/7 Torsten Anders torsten.and...@beds.ac.uk: For bibliographies in MS Word and/or OpenOffice you may wan to check out Zotero (http://www.zotero.org/) and its extensions for these platforms. Yes, good idea. I installed Zotero. Too bad there is no extension for Chrome, but using Firefox is still much, much better than using IE. Which I could not because I run Ubuntu Linux. The zotero Standalone Alpha has a Chrome extension. I think using Zotero is a much better bet than trying to use the native OOo bibliographic features which were always very primitive, never really expanded as they were supposed to be, and have, I believe, more or less rotted in the last several years. there have been threads on this list about using zotero with org-mode; now that org-odt as been incorporated into the org relase (yay!) maybe someone will figure out how to translate zotero ids into odt documents using the command-line version of OOo or something.
Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
Hi Matt! 2011/7/7 Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com: The zotero Standalone Alpha has a Chrome extension. I think using Zotero is a much better bet than trying to use the native OOo bibliographic features which were always very primitive, never really expanded as they were supposed to be, and have, I believe, more or less rotted in the last several years. there have been threads on this list about using zotero with org-mode; now that org-odt as been incorporated into the org relase (yay!) maybe someone will figure out how to translate zotero ids into odt documents using the command-line version of OOo or something. I know close to nothing about Zotero except that I have installed the extensions for Firefox and LibreOffice. I am willing to install the standalone Zotero. It has connectors for Chrome and OpenOffice, so that should work. Thanks, Henri-Paul -- Henri-Paul Indiogine Curriculum Instruction Texas AM University TutorFind Learning Centre Email: hindiog...@gmail.com Skype: hindiogine Website: http://people.cehd.tamu.edu/~sindiogine
Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
There is jabref [1]. A standalone Java application, which uses the bib-format as native solution. Thus it could play nicely with org-mode. Since it will still remain all in a bib file. The feature set is already outstanding compared to many other solutions. There is a emacs interaction as well to push \cite-keys to emacs. It also claims to have a Openoffice support never tried. Totti [1] http://jabref.sourceforge.net/ On 07/08/2011 01:56 PM, Christian Moe wrote: Hi, I regret to agree about the OOo bibliographic features. Zotero is very nice, but getting Zotero IDs into an Org-mode document (see Eric Hetzner's zotero-plain, https://bitbucket.org/egh/zotero-plain) and then into OOo in a form where they'll be useful (no ready solution I know of) is a somewhat complex task. If Bibtex is your starting point and you want to maintain your bibliography in Bibtex (and why wouldn't you, if you can /deliver/ your work as LaTeX/PDF), the round trip will be more complex and fragile yet. What are your minimal bibliographic requirements for documents to send your supervisor? If you're using author-date citations and a reference list, I might have a crude stopgap. Yours, Christian On 7/8/11 3:40 AM, Henri-Paul Indiogine wrote: Hi Matt! 2011/7/7 Matt Pricemopto...@gmail.com: The zotero Standalone Alpha has a Chrome extension. I think using Zotero is a much better bet than trying to use the native OOo bibliographic features which were always very primitive, never really expanded as they were supposed to be, and have, I believe, more or less rotted in the last several years. there have been threads on this list about using zotero with org-mode; now that org-odt as been incorporated into the org relase (yay!) maybe someone will figure out how to translate zotero ids into odt documents using the command-line version of OOo or something. I know close to nothing about Zotero except that I have installed the extensions for Firefox and LibreOffice. I am willing to install the standalone Zotero. It has connectors for Chrome and OpenOffice, so that should work. Thanks, Henri-Paul
Re: [O] org-odt and bibliography
Hi Christian! 2011/7/7 Christian Moe m...@christianmoe.com: Zotero is very nice, but getting Zotero IDs into an Org-mode document (see Eric Hetzner's zotero-plain, https://bitbucket.org/egh/zotero-plain) and then into OOo in a form where they'll be useful (no ready solution I know of) is a somewhat complex task. If Bibtex is your starting point and you want to maintain your bibliography in Bibtex (and why wouldn't you, if you can /deliver/ your work as LaTeX/PDF), the round trip will be more complex and fragile yet. Yes, I agree. What are your minimal bibliographic requirements for documents to send your supervisor? If you're using author-date citations and a reference list, I might have a crude stopgap. Yes, that would do it. Thanks a bunch! Best, HP -- Henri-Paul Indiogine Curriculum Instruction Texas AM University TutorFind Learning Centre Email: hindiog...@gmail.com Skype: hindiogine Website: http://people.cehd.tamu.edu/~sindiogine
[O] org-odt and bibliography
Greetings!
I am starting to use org-odt and I find it very useful. I am wondering
whether it is possible to export also my bibliography. In the org file
I have the following:
---
blah blah blah \citecf{Apple:1992a,Payne:1999a,Martin:2003a}.
blah blah blah
---
Then later:
\bibliographystyle{apacite}
\bibliography{/home/henk/Dropbox/dissertation/bibdata-neuf}
The above text from the org file is transferred verbatim to the odt
file. The same happens to the footnotes.
I understand that the org-odt code is still under development and that
the developer is doing this from the goodness of his heart. I am just
wondering whether I am missing something, doing something incorrectly,
or this is maybe going to be a future feature.
Thanks,
Henri-Paul
--
Henri-Paul Indiogine
Email: hindiog...@gmail.com
Running: Ubuntu Linux 10.10, Emacs 24.0.50.1, org-mode 7.5
