Re: [O] org-tree-slide annoyance
Hi Carsten and Nick, I'd like to contribute my code[*1][*2] to org-mode, but I don't know the procedure or rules to put it into the contrib dir. Could you give me some information? [*1] https://github.com/takaxp/org-tree-slide [*2] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/non-beamer-presentations.html Best regards, Takaaki On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:43 PM, Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com wrote: henry atts s...@online.de writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On 15.7.2013, at 10:33, henry atts s...@online.de wrote: I use org-tree-slide-mode by default with (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-tree-slide-mode) This works kind of acceptable minus some minor annoyances. But one thing makes it nearly unusuable. tree-slide rigidly expects at least one header. So if I open an org file without heading, or if I create a new one, I get an error message: File mode specification error: (error before first heading) If I include a setup file with `#+SETUPFILE:', which of course has no headings in it, org-tree-slide stops working at all. Hi Henry, you could wrap turning on of the mode into a function that checks if there is a node, and if not, just add one. - Carsten Okay, but on the one hand this doesn't solve the problem with `SETUPFILE'. On the other hand what if I want an org file without any heading on purpose? Or otherwise asked is a file a `real' org file only if it has headings in it? No, I don't think so, but there are bugs (there was a bug in the latex exporter once that required a heading at the beginning). I presume Carsten's suggestion was as a workaround to a bug (although I might have misinterpreted his comment). You might say if you want some features of orgmode _and_ an org file without heading you can always use, say, text-mode and load orgstruct as a minor mode. Which does not solve the problem as well because with the org-tree-mode hook for orgmode it shows some strange behaviour equally. I like org-tree-mode but I think it does not play well with orgmode in some cases. And as far as I see it even is not in contrib. Yes, I went looking for it there and did not find it :-) So maybe you can ping the author about the bug - s/he might even fix it, particularly now that the package is being used by at least one other person! Or contribute the fix yourself - if you like the package, then others might too, so it might even end up in contrib at some point. -- Nick -- Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org GITI, Waseda University :) http://about.me/takaxp
Re: [O] org-tree-slide annoyance
Hi Henry, Thank you for using org-tree-slide and reporting the issue. Please use the following patch to avoid the error. PATCH: Replace the original code with (defun ots-display-tree-with-narrow () Show a tree with narrowing and also set a header at the head of slide. (goto-char (point-at-bol)) (when (ots-last-heading-position) (hide-subtree) ; support CONTENT (subtrees are shown) (org-show-entry) (show-children) (org-cycle-hide-drawers 'all) (org-narrow-to-subtree)) (setq display-tree-slide-string (if (equal org-tree-slide-modeline-display 'outside) (ots-count-slide (point)) )) (when org-tree-slide-slide-in-effect (ots-slide-in org-tree-slide-slide-in-brank-lines)) (when org-tree-slide-header (ots-show-slide-header))) This patch is a tentative code for checking behavior in your environments, but I think you will be able to open org files without heading. I'll update it again within a few days. Best, Takaaki 2013/7/15 Nick Dokos ndo...@gmail.com henry atts s...@online.de writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On 15.7.2013, at 10:33, henry atts s...@online.de wrote: I use org-tree-slide-mode by default with (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-tree-slide-mode) This works kind of acceptable minus some minor annoyances. But one thing makes it nearly unusuable. tree-slide rigidly expects at least one header. So if I open an org file without heading, or if I create a new one, I get an error message: File mode specification error: (error before first heading) If I include a setup file with `#+SETUPFILE:', which of course has no headings in it, org-tree-slide stops working at all. Hi Henry, you could wrap turning on of the mode into a function that checks if there is a node, and if not, just add one. - Carsten Okay, but on the one hand this doesn't solve the problem with `SETUPFILE'. On the other hand what if I want an org file without any heading on purpose? Or otherwise asked is a file a `real' org file only if it has headings in it? No, I don't think so, but there are bugs (there was a bug in the latex exporter once that required a heading at the beginning). I presume Carsten's suggestion was as a workaround to a bug (although I might have misinterpreted his comment). You might say if you want some features of orgmode _and_ an org file without heading you can always use, say, text-mode and load orgstruct as a minor mode. Which does not solve the problem as well because with the org-tree-mode hook for orgmode it shows some strange behaviour equally. I like org-tree-mode but I think it does not play well with orgmode in some cases. And as far as I see it even is not in contrib. Yes, I went looking for it there and did not find it :-) So maybe you can ping the author about the bug - s/he might even fix it, particularly now that the package is being used by at least one other person! Or contribute the fix yourself - if you like the package, then others might too, so it might even end up in contrib at some point. -- Nick
[O] org-tree-slide annoyance
I use org-tree-slide-mode by default with (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-tree-slide-mode) This works kind of acceptable minus some minor annoyances. But one thing makes it nearly unusuable. tree-slide rigidly expects at least one header. So if I open an org file without heading, or if I create a new one, I get an error message: File mode specification error: (error before first heading) If I include a setup file with `#+SETUPFILE:', which of course has no headings in it, org-tree-slide stops working at all. henry -- web: http://literaturlatenight.de jabberID: att...@jabber.at
Re: [O] org-tree-slide annoyance
On 15.7.2013, at 10:33, henry atts s...@online.de wrote: I use org-tree-slide-mode by default with (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-tree-slide-mode) This works kind of acceptable minus some minor annoyances. But one thing makes it nearly unusuable. tree-slide rigidly expects at least one header. So if I open an org file without heading, or if I create a new one, I get an error message: File mode specification error: (error before first heading) If I include a setup file with `#+SETUPFILE:', which of course has no headings in it, org-tree-slide stops working at all. Hi Henry, you could wrap turning on of the mode into a function that checks if there is a node, and if not, just add one. - Carsten henry -- web: http://literaturlatenight.de jabberID: att...@jabber.at
Re: [O] org-tree-slide annoyance
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On 15.7.2013, at 10:33, henry atts s...@online.de wrote: I use org-tree-slide-mode by default with (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-tree-slide-mode) This works kind of acceptable minus some minor annoyances. But one thing makes it nearly unusuable. tree-slide rigidly expects at least one header. So if I open an org file without heading, or if I create a new one, I get an error message: File mode specification error: (error before first heading) If I include a setup file with `#+SETUPFILE:', which of course has no headings in it, org-tree-slide stops working at all. Hi Henry, you could wrap turning on of the mode into a function that checks if there is a node, and if not, just add one. - Carsten Okay, but on the one hand this doesn't solve the problem with `SETUPFILE'. On the other hand what if I want an org file without any heading on purpose? Or otherwise asked is a file a `real' org file only if it has headings in it? You might say if you want some features of orgmode _and_ an org file without heading you can always use, say, text-mode and load orgstruct as a minor mode. Which does not solve the problem as well because with the org-tree-mode hook for orgmode it shows some strange behaviour equally. I like org-tree-mode but I think it does not play well with orgmode in some cases. And as far as I see it even is not in contrib. henry -- web: http://literaturlatenight.de jabberID: att...@jabber.at
Re: [O] org-tree-slide annoyance
henry atts s...@online.de writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On 15.7.2013, at 10:33, henry atts s...@online.de wrote: I use org-tree-slide-mode by default with (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-tree-slide-mode) This works kind of acceptable minus some minor annoyances. But one thing makes it nearly unusuable. tree-slide rigidly expects at least one header. So if I open an org file without heading, or if I create a new one, I get an error message: File mode specification error: (error before first heading) If I include a setup file with `#+SETUPFILE:', which of course has no headings in it, org-tree-slide stops working at all. Hi Henry, you could wrap turning on of the mode into a function that checks if there is a node, and if not, just add one. - Carsten Okay, but on the one hand this doesn't solve the problem with `SETUPFILE'. On the other hand what if I want an org file without any heading on purpose? Or otherwise asked is a file a `real' org file only if it has headings in it? No, I don't think so, but there are bugs (there was a bug in the latex exporter once that required a heading at the beginning). I presume Carsten's suggestion was as a workaround to a bug (although I might have misinterpreted his comment). You might say if you want some features of orgmode _and_ an org file without heading you can always use, say, text-mode and load orgstruct as a minor mode. Which does not solve the problem as well because with the org-tree-mode hook for orgmode it shows some strange behaviour equally. I like org-tree-mode but I think it does not play well with orgmode in some cases. And as far as I see it even is not in contrib. Yes, I went looking for it there and did not find it :-) So maybe you can ping the author about the bug - s/he might even fix it, particularly now that the package is being used by at least one other person! Or contribute the fix yourself - if you like the package, then others might too, so it might even end up in contrib at some point. -- Nick
Re: [O] org-tree-slide annoyance
Hi Henry, Thank you for using org-tree-slide and reporting the issue. Please use the following patch to avoid the error. PATCH: Replace the original code with (defun ots-display-tree-with-narrow () Show a tree with narrowing and also set a header at the head of slide. (goto-char (point-at-bol)) (when (ots-last-heading-position) (hide-subtree) ; support CONTENT (subtrees are shown) (org-show-entry) (show-children) (org-cycle-hide-drawers 'all) (org-narrow-to-subtree)) (setq display-tree-slide-string (if (equal org-tree-slide-modeline-display 'outside) (ots-count-slide (point)) )) (when org-tree-slide-slide-in-effect (ots-slide-in org-tree-slide-slide-in-brank-lines)) (when org-tree-slide-header (ots-show-slide-header))) This patch is a tentative code for checking behavior in your environments, but I think you will be able to open org files without heading. I'll update it again within a few days. Best, Takaaki On Jul 15, 2013, at 5:33 PM, henry atts s...@online.de wrote: I use org-tree-slide-mode by default with (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-tree-slide-mode) This works kind of acceptable minus some minor annoyances. But one thing makes it nearly unusuable. tree-slide rigidly expects at least one header. So if I open an org file without heading, or if I create a new one, I get an error message: File mode specification error: (error before first heading) If I include a setup file with `#+SETUPFILE:', which of course has no headings in it, org-tree-slide stops working at all. henry -- web: http://literaturlatenight.de jabberID: att...@jabber.at -- Takaaki ISHIKAWA tak...@ieee.org GITI, Waseda University :) http://about.me/takaxp
