Re: [Orgmode] Day workflow: need your opinion

2009-08-04 Thread Vedang
Hi Xavier,

 a) I doing some non urgent (planned) DBA tasks (call this project A)
 b) someone calls me (interrupting Project A)
 c) I am doing what urgency of b) is needed
 d) when c) is finished, I get back to project A

I think the Time Clocking
sectionhttp://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#sec-7.2of this
document http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html%20 by Bernt Hansen would be
quite helpful in your case. In fact, the entire document is excellent
reading for getting things done using org-mode.

Thanks,
Vedang

On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Xavier Maillardx...@gnu.org wrote:
 Hi,

 I am not a serious org-mode user but I am trying to use it again
 for daily task planning (which everytime I tried, failed at ;)).

 I did my lectures thanks to the worg project (Bernst and John
 lecture were a real pleasure and sort of a non hittable dream to
 me) but I still not clear how I could take advantage of all I
 read (Bernst project concept is rather hard to understand for
 me, it lacks examples IMO).

 My main problem is that, at my work position (DBA), urgency is
 not given by what I plan to do but by whom is calling me -i.e if
 someone is calling me, it often means forget what you were doing
 and do this instead.

 Given my fabulous talent of procrastination, this does not really
 help get organized and thus this does not help in getting things
 done.

 How would you use org-mode in this situation ?

 Ex:

 a) I doing some non urgent (planned) DBA tasks (call this project A)
 b) someone calls me (interrupting Project A)
 c) I am doing what urgency of b) is needed
 d) when c) is finished, I get back to project A

 At my job, they often rules the retro planning concept which is
 bloat. So how would you manage such situation in org-mode ?

 Thank you,

 Xavier



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RE: [Orgmode] Day workflow: need your opinion

2009-08-04 Thread Jonathan Arkell
I'll take a stab at this...

Lets say you have the following TODO tags defined:

TODO STARTED | DONE
And
PROJECT | CANCELLED FINISHED

And lets say you have project A defined like so:

*** PROJECT Project A
 TODO Some Larger Task
 - [ ] DO the thing
 - [ ] That other thing
 - [ ] More stuff
 TODO Complete project
 - [ ] Log hours

When you are ready to start work on project A Some Larger Task, you mark it 
as STARTED.  As you go through the steps in project A, you would tick off 
things as they are completed, and mark larger tasks as done.  When the 
interrupting task comes in, decide whether or not it is a one off, or deserving 
of a project.

If it is a One-off task, you might put it in a larger Tasks headline.  Again, I 
would split out what needs to be done here as a series of smaller todo steps or 
checkboxes.

*** PROJECT Interrupting Cow
 STARTED Put out the fire.
 - [ ] Find the fire hose
 - [ ] Wear Suitable Rubber Boots
 - [ ] Put out fire
 - [ ] Save the day.

Now, if there is another interruption, you can Add another entry:

*** STARTED yet another one-off task.
- [ ] Give molly the frobniator
- [ ] send widget to fred.

Now, let's say it's lunch time, and the last thing you want to do is fart 
around with org files.  Great.  Go for lunch.

When you get back from lunch, or your break, run a quick agenda command to see 
what tasks you have started:

C-a T STARTED

Now you can take a peek at your started tasks, and you know what is currently 
holding your immediate attention.

I have a custom agenda set up for work that displays the started tasks right 
after the Scheduled tasks and my weekly view.  This makes the following things 
immediately apparent:
  1) Any time commitments are at the forefront of my mind and attention
  2) Any work I am currently doing is immediately visible.

When I am being diligent about working with org mode, I keep track of what I am 
doing directly into the TODO task, either as a series of checkboxes, or at the 
very least, a log of what I have done.  This makes it really easy to get back 
to what I am doing.  For instance, if I am knee-deep in hacking some SQL 
queries, I'll try em out on my sql buffer, and copy the relevant ones back to 
my currently working org buffer.   You can also use org-store-link and 
org-insert-link to keep track of your place, which obviously works better if 
you are working on a file.  I have found it especially useful for working with 
shell commands as well, to keep track of which commands I used, and sometimes 
the output of the commands.  Again, this makes it easy to deal with 
interruptions, because you can easily  follow your breadcrumb trail back.

Hopefully that helps!

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[mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+jonathana=criticalmass@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
Xavier Maillard
Sent: August 3, 2009 11:58 PM
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: [Orgmode] Day workflow: need your opinion

Hi,

I am not a serious org-mode user but I am trying to use it again
for daily task planning (which everytime I tried, failed at ;)).

I did my lectures thanks to the worg project (Bernst and John
lecture were a real pleasure and sort of a non hittable dream to
me) but I still not clear how I could take advantage of all I
read (Bernst project concept is rather hard to understand for
me, it lacks examples IMO).

My main problem is that, at my work position (DBA), urgency is
not given by what I plan to do but by whom is calling me -i.e if
someone is calling me, it often means forget what you were doing
and do this instead.

Given my fabulous talent of procrastination, this does not really
help get organized and thus this does not help in getting things
done.

How would you use org-mode in this situation ?

Ex:

a) I doing some non urgent (planned) DBA tasks (call this project A)
b) someone calls me (interrupting Project A)
c) I am doing what urgency of b) is needed
d) when c) is finished, I get back to project A

At my job, they often rules the retro planning concept which is
bloat. So how would you manage such situation in org-mode ?

Thank you,

Xavier



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[Orgmode] Day workflow: need your opinion

2009-08-03 Thread Xavier Maillard
Hi,

I am not a serious org-mode user but I am trying to use it again
for daily task planning (which everytime I tried, failed at ;)).

I did my lectures thanks to the worg project (Bernst and John
lecture were a real pleasure and sort of a non hittable dream to
me) but I still not clear how I could take advantage of all I
read (Bernst project concept is rather hard to understand for
me, it lacks examples IMO).

My main problem is that, at my work position (DBA), urgency is
not given by what I plan to do but by whom is calling me -i.e if
someone is calling me, it often means forget what you were doing
and do this instead.

Given my fabulous talent of procrastination, this does not really
help get organized and thus this does not help in getting things
done.

How would you use org-mode in this situation ?

Ex:

a) I doing some non urgent (planned) DBA tasks (call this project A)
b) someone calls me (interrupting Project A)
c) I am doing what urgency of b) is needed
d) when c) is finished, I get back to project A

At my job, they often rules the retro planning concept which is
bloat. So how would you manage such situation in org-mode ?

Thank you,

Xavier



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