Re: [Orgmode] Narrow tSparse Trees layout

2009-08-04 Thread Cian OConnor
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:

 Hi Cian,
 Its just that when drafting papers I tend to have lots and lots of
 indentation in early drafts, and while narrowing trees is a godsend, the
 unnecessary (for my purposes) indentation is slightly annoying.

 If the purpose of such a temporary display is to make the export render
 the structure of the narrowed buffer as if it was a top-level subtree,
 then I agree this is useful.  You can already achieve this by selecting
 the whole narrowed subtree (with transient-mark-mode on) and exporting
 the region.

Not really. Its simply a convenience method that I can probably hack for 
myself, but didn't want to if it already existed. Its simply when I'm 
drafting I tend to work in subtrees, and it becomes (for my purposes)
quite unwieldy when working with large trees (as I tend to). The indent
when I'm working with the narrowed buffer is a waste of space, and it
also makes it difficult for me to work out what level I'm working at
with a simple eyeball at the structure.

However I can quite cheerfully see that this is not something most
people would want/need.

 But maybe a narrowed tree should be considered as a selected region by
 default...  

Yes it probably should.


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Re: [Orgmode] Narrow tSparse Trees layout

2009-08-04 Thread Samuel Wales
A possible workaround:

(require 'scroll-lock)
(define-key global-map [(control shift up)] 'scroll-lock-previous-line)
(define-key global-map [(control shift down)] 'scroll-lock-next-line)
(define-key global-map [(control shift right)] 'alpha-scroll-lock-next-char)
(define-key global-map [(control shift left)] 'alpha-scroll-lock-previous-char)
(defun alpha-scroll-lock-previous-char () (interactive) (scroll-right 1))
(defun alpha-scroll-lock-next-char () (interactive) (scroll-left 1))


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Re: [Orgmode] Narrow tSparse Trees layout

2009-08-02 Thread Bastien
Hi Cian,

Cian OConnor cian.ocon...@gmail.com writes:

 It would be nice if there was an option so that narrowed trees are
 displayed without their normal indentation. So for example if narrow a
 subtree at level 4, then it is displayed as a normal tree at level 1
 rather than as a tree starting at level 4 as currently happens. 

I still would find such a display a bit confusing.

 Its just that when drafting papers I tend to have lots and lots of
 indentation in early drafts, and while narrowing trees is a godsend, the
 unnecessary (for my purposes) indentation is slightly annoying.

If the purpose of such a temporary display is to make the export render
the structure of the narrowed buffer as if it was a top-level subtree,
then I agree this is useful.  You can already achieve this by selecting
the whole narrowed subtree (with transient-mark-mode on) and exporting
the region.

But maybe a narrowed tree should be considered as a selected region by
default...  

-- 
 Bastien


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Re: [Orgmode] Narrow tSparse Trees layout

2009-07-31 Thread Cian OConnor

Oh sorry, I was using the wrong terminology. I don't mean sparse trees
at all, I meant narrow trees.

It would be nice if there was an option so that narrowed trees are
displayed without their normal indentation. So for example if narrow a
subtree at level 4, then it is displayed as a normal tree at level 1
rather than as a tree starting at level 4 as currently happens. 
Its just that when drafting papers I tend to have lots and lots of
indentation in early drafts, and while narrowing trees is a godsend, the
unnecessary (for my purposes) indentation is slightly annoying.

Cian

Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:

 Cian OConnor cian.ocon...@gmail.com writes:

 Now if I go to level 3 and create a sparse tree I get this:
 * level 3
   * level 4

 Which is fine and usable, but it would be nice to have the option to
 have the following instead:

 * level 3
   * level 4

 Why would you want to have this?  

 I find this a bit confusing...


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Re: [Orgmode] Narrow tSparse Trees layout

2009-07-31 Thread Nick Dokos
Cian OConnor cian.ocon...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Oh sorry, I was using the wrong terminology. I don't mean sparse trees
 at all, I meant narrow trees.
 
 It would be nice if there was an option so that narrowed trees are
 displayed without their normal indentation. So for example if narrow a
 subtree at level 4, then it is displayed as a normal tree at level 1
 rather than as a tree starting at level 4 as currently happens. 
 Its just that when drafting papers I tend to have lots and lots of
 indentation in early drafts, and while narrowing trees is a godsend, the
 unnecessary (for my purposes) indentation is slightly annoying.
 

I presume you have org-hide-leading-stars set to t. If so, what looks
like indentation, is really hidden leading stars (see section 14.5 of
the manual). I am no expert but I would think that implementing what
you want would be difficult. If it really bothers you, perhaps you can
promote the tree to level 1 while you are working on it and then demote
it before widening again - I think this cure is worse than the disease,
but to each his own.

HTH,
Nick


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