[Orgmode] [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

2009-10-26 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hello fellow orgers,

I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the era
of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions of
emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I search
for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:

 * emacs23
 * emacs-snapshot-gtk

The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:

GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 2009-10-15
on yellow, modified by Debian

For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:

GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of
2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian

Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?

Thanks in advance,

Marcelo.
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Re: [Orgmode] [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

2009-10-26 Thread Ian Barton


I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the 
era of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions 
of emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I 
search for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:


 * emacs23
 * emacs-snapshot-gtk

The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:

GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 
2009-10-15 on yellow, modified by Debian


For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:

GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of 
2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian


Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?

I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my 
.emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from 
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppa everything works as 
expected using the same .emacs.


Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

2009-10-26 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Thanks for the reply.

 I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my
 .emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from
 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppahttps://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppaeverything
  works as expected using the same .emacs.


What is the difference between the emacs23 and emacs-snapshot-gtk packages?


On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Ian Barton li...@manor-farm.org wrote:


  I have been using the emacs-snapshot package for a long time, since the
 era of Ubuntu 7.04, and it worked fine and I got all the latest versions of
 emacs with it. Now, I just installed 9.10 from scratch, and when I search
 for emacs on apt-cache, I get the following relevant packages:

  * emacs23
  * emacs-snapshot-gtk

 The emacs-version for emacs23 returns:

 GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.2) of 2009-10-15
 on yellow, modified by Debian

 For emacs-snapshot-gtk, I get:

 GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.0) of
 2009-09-27 on crested, modified by Debian

 Which one would be the most recent version (or better package to use)?

  I had some problems using emacs23 in Karmic. Several errors loading my
 .emacs and a non functional emacs-lisp menu. Using the ppa from
 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppahttps://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-elisp/+archive/ppaeverything
  works as expected using the same .emacs.

 Ian.

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Re: [Orgmode] [off-topic] emacs23 or emacs-snapshot-gtk (Ubuntu)

2009-10-26 Thread Ian Barton




What is the difference between the emacs23 and emacs-snapshot-gtk packages?
 

The snapshot is derived from the latest emacs in cvs. The emacs23 is the 
 stable v23 release. The snapshot package will contain extra 
bugfixes, features and quite possibly some extra bugs:)


Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] [off-topic/GTD]Only Next Actions list to rule them all ?

2009-10-21 Thread Desmond Rivet
Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

 On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
 Hello list,

 This is for the GTD orgers out there. I've taken the article written by
 Charles as a basis for my GTD implementation. In the end, it's all about
 what works for you, but I'd like to get some insights/opinions from you: For
 Next Actions, are you using a single list OR you organize them
 hierarchically under each project (in the projects list)?

 I started with the second one, putting each next action (TODO) item under
 its correspondent project, however, it quickly became too bloated, and a mix
 of projects, sub-projects and next-actions. Of course, org helps there with
 sparse trees and other functions to filter trees, but still, I found it was
 too complex, albeit more specific and I did felt I was more organized,
 even though I was getting lost.

 So, I just let go of my obsession about the perfect thing and decided to try
 a single Next Actions list, together with a Projects list. The next actions
 is a single list with all the actionable items from all the projects. I've
 lost the relationship between a next action item and a project, but I can do
 this easily by just looking at the action, having the system tell me is not
 that important.

 Usually, you define all actions for a project under the same hierarchy.  You
 can decide how you want actions to be designated next (and projects to be
 designated project) -- using keywords or tags and have a custom agenda
 command collect the next actions for you from all agenda files in a single
 list.

I use a single file which contains both next actions (NAs) and projects,
with NAs living under the relevant project.  NAs have TODO state and
tags for the contexts.

Well, that's not 100% true.  My GTD file contains NAs and a more generic
concept which I'm calling Categories, since a Category uses a CATEGORY
property.  Categories are just grouping items.  Projects are a special
kind of Category which a) have a TODO state (normal Categories do not)
and b) tack a p_ onto the beginning of the CATEGORY label and c) have
a project tag.  Basically a project is a Category that you can
finish and which can be immediately identified as a project with a
query (because of the project tag).

In this way, NAs always live under a Category (I have a Misc Category
to catch NAs which don't seem to fit anywhere else), and some Categories
are projects.  I don't nest Categories into sub-Categories, but I think
I could do it - projects are just Categories with some extra TODO state
and tags, and heading level doesn't really enter into it.  Similarly,
NAs are TODO items which do NOT have the project tag.

When I collect all my NAs into an agenda view, I immediately see the
CATEGORY label in the first column and I can see which NAs belong to a
project and which don't, since I tacked a p_ onto the Categories which
represent projects.

Also, my waiting list is defined as items in the WAITING state.  I keep
my someday list as a seperate file.

-- 
Desmond Rivet

Pain is weakness leaving the body.


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[Orgmode] [off-topic/GTD]Only Next Actions list to rule them all ?

2009-10-20 Thread Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Hello list,

This is for the GTD orgers out there. I've taken the article written by
Charles as a basis for my GTD implementation. In the end, it's all about
what works for you, but I'd like to get some insights/opinions from you: For
Next Actions, are you using a single list OR you organize them
hierarchically under each project (in the projects list)?

I started with the second one, putting each next action (TODO) item under
its correspondent project, however, it quickly became too bloated, and a mix
of projects, sub-projects and next-actions. Of course, org helps there with
sparse trees and other functions to filter trees, but still, I found it was
too complex, albeit more specific and I did felt I was more organized,
even though I was getting lost.

So, I just let go of my obsession about the perfect thing and decided to try
a single Next Actions list, together with a Projects list. The next actions
is a single list with all the actionable items from all the projects. I've
lost the relationship between a next action item and a project, but I can do
this easily by just looking at the action, having the system tell me is not
that important.

So, basically, a bunch of projects and next actions, weekly review,
collect-process-organize-review-do and that's all.

Who knows, over time I might find that there's a better way... well, but
Keeping It Simple is sometimes the best approach, even though org is so
flexible that one might fall in the rabbit hole :)

Thanks,

Marcelo.
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Re: [Orgmode] [off-topic/GTD]Only Next Actions list to rule them all ?

2009-10-20 Thread Manish
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote:
 Hello list,

 This is for the GTD orgers out there. I've taken the article written by
 Charles as a basis for my GTD implementation. In the end, it's all about
 what works for you, but I'd like to get some insights/opinions from you: For
 Next Actions, are you using a single list OR you organize them
 hierarchically under each project (in the projects list)?

 I started with the second one, putting each next action (TODO) item under
 its correspondent project, however, it quickly became too bloated, and a mix
 of projects, sub-projects and next-actions. Of course, org helps there with
 sparse trees and other functions to filter trees, but still, I found it was
 too complex, albeit more specific and I did felt I was more organized,
 even though I was getting lost.

 So, I just let go of my obsession about the perfect thing and decided to try
 a single Next Actions list, together with a Projects list. The next actions
 is a single list with all the actionable items from all the projects. I've
 lost the relationship between a next action item and a project, but I can do
 this easily by just looking at the action, having the system tell me is not
 that important.

Usually, you define all actions for a project under the same hierarchy.  You
can decide how you want actions to be designated next (and projects to be
designated project) -- using keywords or tags and have a custom agenda
command collect the next actions for you from all agenda files in a single
list.

-- 
Manish


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[Orgmode] Off

2009-08-02 Thread Bastien
Hi all,

now I'm off for real till the end of August.   I couldn't handle 
some issues on time for today, but I know they will be sorted out.
Also, I allowed myself to add a Make a donation button on my Org
page - I'll remove this when I get enough $ for a new computer:

  http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/bastien-org-mode.php

Have fun!

-- 
 Bastien


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[Orgmode] OFF-TOPIC - posting file snippets..

2009-01-08 Thread sergio_101
i realize that this is off topic, but i think it will help in the future
as i continue to post..

i have seen lots of people posting file snippets to this list that are
really well formatted.. something like:

--[filename.txt]--
| contents of |
|file |
---[end]---

well, not that ugly, but you get the idea..

my question is.. how are they doing that?

thanks!


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