Re: [Orgmode] Re: Back from FOSDEM
Hi Andrea, Andrea Crotti andrea.crott...@gmail.com writes: I was there and you all did a great job, thanks! Thanks! The only things that could be made better imho is the readability. The font was too small for all three presenters, and the minibuffer unreadable already from the middle of the room. Yes, I should have tested that before the conference. Also something to popup the keys (is there anything like growl for linux) would be very useful in this kind of presentation I tested key-mon (https://code.google.com/p/key-mon/) which looks nice at first glance, but modifiers keys are only displayed for a limited time. E.g. when you keep the control key pressed for C-c C-x C-c, it will only display Control + c -- then x then c, which might be a bit confusing. I would love to hear about other tools for GNU/Linux. Note for later: when talking to hackers, forget about the slides and have direct fun with an Org-mode buffer, display the *magic* of with no taboo -- questions will come along as you hit some neat feature. Not totally sure, some slides for giving the same background to everyone are always useful, and they increase the hype and curiousity to see the tool in practice. I think that in general hackers always don't stand very well magic, they would always like to know what key was pressed, what command given and so on to do them by themselves. Fully agreed. One point I made : what's special about Org is that it's a reflexive tool, one that lets you discover the way you work and the way you want to work. Forget about getting disciplined by some external digital secretary, start by having fun discovering yourself with a tool that has virtually no learning curve (or just that of Emacs itself...) Yes that was a very nice point, might steal it in the future ;) Steal it! :) Best, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Back from FOSDEM
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr wrote: Also something to popup the keys (is there anything like growl for linux) would be very useful in this kind of presentation I tested key-mon (https://code.google.com/p/key-mon/) which looks nice at first glance, but modifiers keys are only displayed for a limited time. E.g. when you keep the control key pressed for C-c C-x C-c, it will only display Control + c -- then x then c, which might be a bit confusing. I would love to hear about other tools for GNU/Linux. Screenkey[1] might help. There is a very good demo[2] by a youtube user too. [1] https://launchpad.net/screenkey [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8Wa2BR-9YU -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Back from FOSDEM
Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr writes: Hi all, we have had a good time at FOSDEM. It was great to meet Carsten, Stefan Vollmar, Sebastien Vauban, Jose E. Marchesi, Brian Gough and others. Special thanks to Stefan, who presented a very nice use cas at his lab, and to Sébastien who presented a few Org Babel examples. Org cannot be presented without Org Babel. The devroom was fully packed, which is about 100 people. I expected to introduce Org and to try to convert some people, but about 70% of the audience was already using Org! So the presentation was really a mix of generalities and a live demo of some features (to be honest: I was a bit stressful and tired, I wish I did a better job.) I was there and you all did a great job, thanks! The only things that could be made better imho is the readability. The font was too small for all three presenters, and the minibuffer unreadable already from the middle of the room. Also something to popup the keys (is there anything like growl for linux) would be very useful in this kind of presentation Note for later: when talking to hackers, forget about the slides and have direct fun with an Org-mode buffer, display the *magic* of with no taboo -- questions will come along as you hit some neat feature. Not totally sure, some slides for giving the same background to everyone are always useful, and they increase the hype and curiousity to see the tool in practice. I think that in general hackers always don't stand very well magic, they would always like to know what key was pressed, what command given and so on to do them by themselves. I've put my slides here: http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/u/org-fosdem-presentation-beamer.pdf One point I made : what's special about Org is that it's a reflexive tool, one that lets you discover the way you work and the way you want to work. Forget about getting disciplined by some external digital secretary, start by having fun discovering yourself with a tool that has virtually no learning curve (or just that of Emacs itself...) Yes that was a very nice point, might steal it in the future ;) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
