Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com writes: For such a kind of situation, we only can implement with table.el, right? Right :) -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com writes: Forget all previous emails from me on this thread; Done :) The font you use might causes problems for fixed-font emails you *read* but problems for emails you send are caused by using HTML. Go to gmail parameters and deactivate HTML when sending, it's generally better, at least for this list... Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
I haven't sent any HTMl that I know of--I fully embrace the plain text KISS methods. I've changed my fonts (all fonts--fixed and otherwise) to a font using the string Mono somewhere in its name, and things seem better reading and copying-and-pasting into an email buffer like this one--it should take care of all problems with reading and writing @aligned tables@. Thanks for pointing that out Bastien (about the fonts)--the FreeMono and Courier fonts in GOOGLE CHROME are ugly--I tried them all after your email--I settled on DejaVu Sans Mono Book; but, again, I have never posted HTML to this list that I remember--I used to work with IETF members on XML protocols and I'm very familiar with GML, SGML, HTML, XML, etc--I know HTML when I see it. The only markup that I inserted was [[file: --but thats not HTML--its OrgMode? If I paste text and set its font to XYZ @and@ you allow your browser to view the XYZ font and character set @and@ you have the XYZ font software installed and/or your email software has it, then you'll see it the way the writer intended you to see it. If you ever see anything from me with uncovered down/aligned table columns again, please tell me, sorry about that, it shouldn't happen again. I strongly believe that problem has been solved. (I'll look into turning off HTML sending in my GOOGLE CHROME browser options--like you suggested Bastien) As for OrgMode and my idea, my plan: I will be setting ^H as an end-of-line $ marker in my own code--when I am in a buffer running OrgMode--and I'll see if I can make multivariate stat. tables like the example table Wang gave--EMACS has the only regexp engine that is easily tweaked that way--that I know of (see Regular Expressions, O'Reilly, 1st edition) Now, should OrgMode table mode support the creation of tables like the one Wang gave as an example? I think it should. --But I'm so giddy about OrgMode as it is right now, I almost don't care! ;-) On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.frwrote: brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com writes: Forget all previous emails from me on this thread; Done :) The font you use might causes problems for fixed-font emails you *read* but problems for emails you send are caused by using HTML. Go to gmail parameters and deactivate HTML when sending, it's generally better, at least for this list... Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't sent any HTMl that I know of--I fully embrace the plain text KISS methods. This very email contained alternatives: an HTML one and a plain-text one. Nick I have no idea what you mean here--maybe earlier emails? (which I requested we disregard earlier) I didn't find the option Bastien was refering to--to turn off the sending of HTML. I have been experimenting with sending images in GOOGLE CHROME--maybe that setting is what you complain about/suffer from? I do want to continue to do that; but, what exactly you are complaining about, I don't know? I sent a very complex set of tables (2 emails ago) and all the tables were covered down/aligned? Lastly, please remember this thread purposefully contained markup to pictures and/or [[file: and other probelematic text like multiline text (this thread) in OrgMode tables--its all experimental what if stuff--I purposely tried to insert strange things into the OrgMode table? It was fun and interesting; and, I learned a few things. Now, please feel free to delete or disregard anything I've sent to the list. Anyway, I'm done with this thread. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
I'm not offended; I'm looking into the turning off of html from my GOOGLE CHROME browser. I have been experimenting with the new features like inserting images, etc. And yes, as you point out that very email has markup (on your side--if you accept it)--and that very email apologized for the problem and explained that I would look into it--its still a problem--for you. Everything looks fine to me now--even when I browse the postings. I know a lot about MIME and browsers believe me, and email systems and software and the internet... you can go and learn something about MIME and what mailers do behind your back. --much agreed; this will always be an issue when using GMAIL or other proprietary mail systems. Thanks for the help Nick. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com wrote: It was fun and interesting; and, I learned a few things. Now, please feel free to delete or disregard anything I've sent to the list. Anyway, I'm done with this thread. I'm not trying to insult/upbraid/shut you up. And I was not offended/insulted/angry or anything like that. You made a statement. I pointed out that the statement was wrong. That's all. You learnt something from earlier emails. That's good. Maybe you can learn something from this as well: e.g. you can go and learn something about MIME and what mailers do behind your back. Please do not misunderstand my terseness as anything other than it is: the minimal text possible to explain the problem. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:09:07AM -0500, brian powell wrote: I haven't sent any HTMl that I know of--I fully embrace the plain text KISS methods. well, you're not sending plain text messages. look at your headers: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0485505407== the multipart part means that your messages contain different parts, encoded in different ways. more precisely in your case, your messages consist of a plain text part and an html part, both containing the same text. when i read your message in mutt, this is what it shows: [-- Autoview using elinks -dump -eval set document.codepage.assume = 'ISO-8859-1' '/home/joost/tmp/mutt2xkhQU' --] I haven't sent any HTMl that I know of--I fully embrace the plain text KISS methods. [...] the Autoview using elinks ... part means mutt is calling elinks to display the message. i.e., it's displaying the html part. -- Joost Kremers Life has its moments ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Hi Brian, On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:09 AM, brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't sent any HTMl that I know of--I fully embrace the plain text KISS methods. This comes up on all mailing lists rather often. On Gmail, to the right of the rich text formatting bar, there is a Plain text link. press that to turn off Rich text formatting, which is html in disguise. I think GMail should be more explicit about this behaviour. FWIW, I am sending this post from GMail using the plain text setting. Hope this helps. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr writes: Hi Wang, Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com writes: Will org consider to support this in future? There is no plan for this right now. But what about cheating a bit and play with the _display_ of the table? | Header | Header | |-+| | I want to || | write stuff || | on several || | lines || You should be able to export this table to HTML or LaTeX and simulate a multiline cell on the first column. Just a workaround, but could do in some situations. Also, note that you can shrink the cell length by adding length: |---+--| |---+| | | | | | 6| | 1 | one | | 1 | one| | 2 | two | \ | 2 | two| | 3 | This is a long chunk of text | / | 3 | This= | | 4 | four | | 4 | four | |---+--| |---+| which helps having long text in a single-line cell. HTH, Hi Bastien, Really appreciate your help here. The reason I asked this question is because I always feel it's too complicated to edit a table with table.el. Your suggestion is good for me. :) But there are sometimes also need to draw a table as below: |---+---+| | | HEAD2 | Item 1 | | +---+| | HEAD1 | | Item 2 | | + HEAD3 || | | | Item 3 | |---+---+| For such a kind of situation, we only can implement with table.el, right? Really thanks for all your kind help. :) -- Coeus In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity. -- Albert Einstein ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com writes: Forget all previous emails from me on this thread; I thought there was a simple way to do this in OrgMode--will this work for you Wang?: All you have to do is this I believe (not sure about the Org publish/ TeX output though--tell me if it works out for you): Ca Enter | Tab and then type in your multi-line text--and maybe Tab a few times--this took about 15 seconds: |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| | * | 15B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| | * | 16W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | | | | | | | | multi | | | | | | | | | line | | | | | | | | | text | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| | * | 17B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| #+TBLFM: Brian, Thanks a lot for your help here. :) It's good to show in Org-mode from Emacs itself, but when you export to html file, it's still split with sevel cells. Sometimes I need export org file to html so to make others feel easier to read. -- Coeus In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity. -- Albert Einstein ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Your welcome Wang, my pleasure--I learned a few things too. I used to make tables like the one you seem to be trying to put into and use in an OrgMode Table. Your table: |---+---+| | | HEAD2 | Item 1 | | +---+| | HEAD1 | | Item 2 | | + HEAD3 || | | | Item 3 | |---+---+| * Reminds me of SAS multivariate statistics output and the PROC TABULATE method: ** See these: http://www2.sas.com/proceedings/forum2007/230-2007.pdf http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/proc/61895/HTML/default/viewer.htm#a002473736.htm http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/proc/61895/HTML/default/viewer.htm#a002473751.htm ** Program example is in: http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/proc/61895/HTML/default/viewer.htm#a002473751.htm ** Program example output: Energy Expenditures for Each Region 1 (millions of dollars) --- | | Type | | |-| | |Residential | Business | | | Customers | Customers | | |+| | |Expenditures|Expenditures| | |+| | |Sum |Sum | |---++| |Region |Division ||| |---+---||| |Northeast |New England| $7,477| $5,129| | |---++| | |Middle ||| | |Atlantic | $19,379| $15,078| |---+---++| |West |Mountain | $5,476| $4,729| | |---++| | |Pacific| $13,959| $12,619| --- ** Shows how to put .xls files into SAS, etc.: http://www2.sas.com/proceedings/forum2007/230-2007.pdf ** You may be able to go from .txt/csv = EXCEL = SAS = .pdf/.ps *Also, not sure you know about this extremely useful method that may help you get fancy graphics: Use ditaa! ** From http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html : ... #+begin_src ditaa :file communication.png :cmdline -r -s 0.8 +---++-+ |PLC|| | | Network +--+ PLC +---=-+ |cRED || c707 | | +---++++ | ^ | | | | +|-+ | || | v vv v +--+ ++--+--+ +---+---+ +-+-+ Windows clients | | | | | | | | ++ ++ | Database +-+ Shared ++ Executive +-=--+ Operator +|cYEL| . . .|cYEL| | c707 | | Memory | | c707| | Server | || || +--++--+ |{d} cGRE | +--++ | c707 | ++ ++ ^^ +--+ ^ +---+---+ || | |+=--+ v +++ | | | Millwide System | Data - | cBLU|--=- Signals ---=-- +-+ #+end_src ** Make a DITAA diagram of the table and use the methods shown at: http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html * Maybe make two or three separate tables--and maybe separate with whitespace--with only one real OrgMode table that you do spreadsheet formula calcs, etc. in: ** Example: |+-| ---+---+ | Item 1 | 4 || TAIL2 | |+-||---+ | Item 2 | 555 | TAIL1 | | |+-|| TAIL3 | | Item 3 | 559 || | |+-| ---+---+ #+TBLFM: @3$2=@1$2+@2$2 ** But when I recalculate OrgTable pushes the tables back together. ** Maybe make two tables and use the UNIX paste command to paste them together. *** Maybe then use the TeX \verbatim.
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com wrote: Will org consider to support this in future? I just think org table is more convenient than table.el. Thanks a lot for the help. As far as I know, its not likely. To my understanding, things like table formulae and some of the export functions have trouble dealing with it. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com wrote: Will org consider to support this in future? I just think org table is more convenient than table.el. Thanks a lot for the help. As far as I know, its not likely. To my understanding, things like table formulae and some of the export functions have trouble dealing with it. In many cases it is possible to fake multiline columns e.g., | first | second | |+-| | some text here which | | | is so long I'd like| | | it wrapped | | |+-| | some shorter text here | | |+-| || for simple display this works | || although I agree the contents won't be | || treated as a single cell by spreadsheet | || formula | FWIW the lack of multiline cells used to bother me about org-mode tables, but now I hardly notice their absence, and don't know how I would use them if they were (with some syntax) supported. Best -- Eric ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Hi Wang, Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com writes: Will org consider to support this in future? There is no plan for this right now. But what about cheating a bit and play with the _display_ of the table? | Header | Header | |-+| | I want to || | write stuff || | on several || | lines || You should be able to export this table to HTML or LaTeX and simulate a multiline cell on the first column. Just a workaround, but could do in some situations. Also, note that you can shrink the cell length by adding length: |---+--| |---+| | | | | | 6| | 1 | one | | 1 | one| | 2 | two | \ | 2 | two| | 3 | This is a long chunk of text | / | 3 | This= | | 4 | four | | 4 | four | |---+--| |---+| which helps having long text in a single-line cell. HTH, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
This worked too: ... |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 11B | 21W | 31B | 41W | 51B | 61W | 71B | 81W | 91B | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 12W | /u/0802.jpg | 0 | 0 | [[file:/u/d.j]] | 0 | multi | 0 | * | | | | | | | | | | line | | | | | | | | | | | | text | | | | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 13B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| ... ---to do this: I put dummy rows around the 12W row--dummy rows have all the cells empty--and then just deleted the separator rows---took less than a minute. A little Ck Cy magic---and good old Tab key. As far as the TeX ideas; making it display as a multiline cell in export--thats a great idea too, I've made o-ton-o LaTeX tables--once you do this process Bastien suggests, you could probably write a simple program to munge the .tex file and then reuse the same method over and over. TeX is great at displaying multiline text---its the best for that---regardless of the font. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.frwrote: Hi Wang, Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com writes: Will org consider to support this in future? There is no plan for this right now. But what about cheating a bit and play with the _display_ of the table? | Header | Header | |-+| | I want to || | write stuff || | on several || | lines || You should be able to export this table to HTML or LaTeX and simulate a multiline cell on the first column. Just a workaround, but could do in some situations. Also, note that you can shrink the cell length by adding length: |---+--| |---+| | | | | | 6| | 1 | one | | 1 | one| | 2 | two | \ | 2 | two| | 3 | This is a long chunk of text | / | 3 | This= | | 4 | four | | 4 | four | |---+--| |---+| which helps having long text in a single-line cell. HTH, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Howsabout some code to put in a dummy row in an OrgMode Table--this would facilitate inputting multi-line-text--i.e. a key in OrgMode/TableMode/CalcMode would insert exactly a line like this in the table below: | | | | | | | | | | | | ---and thats it--you're done---then you just type in the text in the column cells you want the multiline text. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:48 PM, brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.comwrote: This worked too: ... |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 11B | 21W | 31B | 41W | 51B | 61W | 71B | 81W | 91B | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 12W | /u/0802.jpg | 0 | 0 | [[file:/u/d.j]] | 0 | multi | 0 | * | | | | | | | | | | line | | | | | | | | | | | | text | | | | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 13B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| ... ---to do this: I put dummy rows around the 12W row--dummy rows have all the cells empty--and then just deleted the separator rows---took less than a minute. A little Ck Cy magic---and good old Tab key. As far as the TeX ideas; making it display as a multiline cell in export--thats a great idea too, I've made o-ton-o LaTeX tables--once you do this process Bastien suggests, you could probably write a simple program to munge the .tex file and then reuse the same method over and over. TeX is great at displaying multiline text---its the best for that---regardless of the font. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.frwrote: Hi Wang, Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com writes: Will org consider to support this in future? There is no plan for this right now. But what about cheating a bit and play with the _display_ of the table? | Header | Header | |-+| | I want to || | write stuff || | on several || | lines || You should be able to export this table to HTML or LaTeX and simulate a multiline cell on the first column. Just a workaround, but could do in some situations. Also, note that you can shrink the cell length by adding length: |---+--| |---+| | | | | | 6| | 1 | one | | 1 | one| | 2 | two | \ | 2 | two| | 3 | This is a long chunk of text | / | 3 | This= | | 4 | four | | 4 | four | |---+--| |---+| which helps having long text in a single-line cell. HTH, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Hi Brian, brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com writes: Howsabout some code to put in a dummy row in an OrgMode Table--this would facilitate inputting multi-line-text--i.e. a key in OrgMode/ TableMode/CalcMode would insert exactly a line like this in the table below: Please use plain text emails... those emails are completely unreadable for me. Especially crucial when talking about tables and formats. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
They were plain text emails? (Believe me, I understand what you mean/the problems people cause when they paste things in the buffer that aren't plain text--that is one reason to use OrgMode.) In any case, sorry about that--I just copied-and-pasted my tests--right from the OrgTable/file? My suggestion then (after all that brainstorming crap) boils down to this alone: Maybe put in 1 key in table mode that puts a dummy line in, maybe something like this: | --it puts in the same number of cell separators and empty cells on empty line as are on the previous line---or you could just do: Cu 8 | Enter Tab And then it spreads it out/covers-down the columns--or the user then just taps Tab (OrgMode will then format the table for them) And then the OrgMode user would type in the multi-line-text column in the respective column-cells. Or I suggest a keyboard-macro (to put in the dummy rows) for this too; thats what I'll do--I'll put it in my .emacs. Thanks Bastien and Wang. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.frwrote: Hi Brian, brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com writes: Howsabout some code to put in a dummy row in an OrgMode Table--this would facilitate inputting multi-line-text--i.e. a key in OrgMode/ TableMode/CalcMode would insert exactly a line like this in the table below: Please use plain text emails... those emails are completely unreadable for me. Especially crucial when talking about tables and formats. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Bastien: I agree with you, every time I get emails from other users, they are jagged and unclear--and; like you typed they are unreadable/unclear (the columns aren't covered down)---maybe its the font that I use? I'll research the different fonts--I think Courier font may keep things clearer. Here is a test: |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 11B | 21W | 31B | 41W | 51B | 61W | 71B | 81W | 91B | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 12W | /u/0802.jpg | 0 | 0 | [[file:j]] | 0 | multi | 0 | * | | | | | | | | | | line | | | | | | | | | | | | text | | | | | | | | | | | | text | | | | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 13B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 14W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 15B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 16W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 17B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 18W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 19B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 18W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 17B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 16W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 15B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 14W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 13B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 12W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| | * | 11B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | * | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+-+---| #+TBLFM: ---yes, courier font is what I used to use--it aligns tables better. I'll use courier font; and, I suggest others use it--when dealing with/expressing table problems to others--many fonts don't cover down columns. Thanks again Bastien. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.frwrote: Hi Brian, brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com writes: Howsabout some code to put in a dummy row in an OrgMode Table--this would facilitate inputting multi-line-text--i.e. a key in OrgMode/ TableMode/CalcMode would insert exactly a line like this in the table below: Please use plain text emails... those emails are completely unreadable for me. Especially crucial when talking about tables and formats. Thanks! -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
Forget all previous emails from me on this thread; I thought there was a simple way to do this in OrgMode--will this work for you Wang?: All you have to do is this I believe (not sure about the Org publish/TeX output though--tell me if it works out for you): Ca Enter | Tab and then type in your multi-line text--and maybe Tab a few times--this took about 15 seconds: |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| | * | 15B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| | * | 16W | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | | | | | | | | multi | | | | | | | | | line | | | | | | | | | text | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| | * | 17B | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |---+-+-+-+-+-+-+---| #+TBLFM: ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
brian powell briangpowel...@gmail.com wrote: My suggestion then (after all that brainstorming crap) boils down to this alone: Maybe put in 1 key in table mode that puts a dummy line in, maybe something like this: | --it puts in the same number of cell separators and empty cells on empty line as are on the previous line---or you could just do: Doesn't M-S-down do that? In the context of a table, it ends up calling the function org-table-insert-row. If you want a single key (e.g. a function key) to do that, you can bind it directly to this function. Of course, simulating multi-cell input like this breaks the table model and might cause difficulties in other places, but you can always try it and see how far you can push it. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Can I input multiline in a cell?
suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Wang Coeus wangco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I am using org-mode for some note, there is a table and I need to input a lot text in one cell, is there possible that I input multiline and output also show as multiline? org-mode tables doesn't support multi-line cells. For that you have to use table.el tables. As far as I recall there is an option for that in the Org main menu. -- Coeus GL Will org consider to support this in future? I just think org table is more convenient than table.el. Thanks a lot for the help. -- Coeus In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity. -- Albert Einstein ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode