[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Christian Egli wrote: > >> >> Hi all >> >> Carsten Dominik writes: >> >>> On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: > Bulk action > > > We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. >>> >>> In what sense? Shifting all dates by the same amount, or setting them >>> all to a fixed date? >> >> I usually display unscheduled TODO items in my agenda as well >> (org-agenda-include-all-todo), so if I decide that I should work on some >> of them next week then a bulk action to schedule them might come in >> handy. >> >> So one use case is to set a fixed scheduled date for a number of TODOs. >> In my case these are tasks that have not been scheduled yet. >> >> Another use case is when I decide that there will not be enough time >> this week to complete all scheduled tasks. I want to move some of the >> tasks to next week. This could be either a shift by 7 days or a >> rescheduling to next monday (a fixed date). > > This should work now, I added "s" and "d" as bulk commands. > Both commands will prompt for a date, and that date will be set for all > entries. > > If you specify something like "++2d" at the prompt, all > dates will be shifted by the same amount. Works like a charm and proves to be a useful time-saver from the very fist moment on. Thanks for implementing it :) Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
On Jul 1, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Christian Egli wrote: Hi all Carsten Dominik writes: On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Bulk action We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. In what sense? Shifting all dates by the same amount, or setting them all to a fixed date? I usually display unscheduled TODO items in my agenda as well (org-agenda-include-all-todo), so if I decide that I should work on some of them next week then a bulk action to schedule them might come in handy. So one use case is to set a fixed scheduled date for a number of TODOs. In my case these are tasks that have not been scheduled yet. Another use case is when I decide that there will not be enough time this week to complete all scheduled tasks. I want to move some of the tasks to next week. This could be either a shift by 7 days or a rescheduling to next monday (a fixed date). This should work now, I added "s" and "d" as bulk commands. Both commands will prompt for a date, and that date will be set for all entries. If you specify something like "++2d" at the prompt, all dates will be shifted by the same amount. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:14 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Yes, both shifting by the same amount and setting a fixed date can be useful. I usually re-schedule leftover todos by shifting them by one or two working days to the future. So originally I had a bulk version of `org-agenda-do-date-later' and friends in mind as opposed to `org-agenda-schedule'. But the latter one would be useful to. Ideally, S-left, C-cC-s et al. would trigger a bulk shift/bulk schedule whenever there are marked agenda items. I am not so sure about this last point. I am not a fan of automatic bulk action if several items are selected. - these lists can become long, and selected entries might be off the screen - for this to make sense, selected entries should remain selected after action, increasing the danger of unwanted action - you might be in the process of selecting some entries, when you want to do a quick action on an individual entry you come across. But you cannot, because any action will act on all selected ones. So I do prefer a special command like "B" to introduce bulk action. I undecided on this, too. Automagically working on marked entries should they exists seems more natural to me but you are right more dangerous, too. So I'm perfectly with you except that I'd say that marked entries should be unmarked after the action. The reason why I said they would have to stay marked is that when you use S-right to reschedule, you want to be able to repeat this command several times to reach the desired date. OK, settled, we will use the special command. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: >> Yes, both shifting by the same amount and setting a fixed date can be >> useful. I usually re-schedule leftover todos by shifting them by one >> or two working days to the future. So originally I had a bulk version of >> `org-agenda-do-date-later' and friends in mind as opposed to >> `org-agenda-schedule'. But the latter one would be useful to. Ideally, >> S-left, C-cC-s et al. would trigger a bulk shift/bulk schedule whenever >> there are marked agenda items. > > I am not so sure about this last point. I am not a > fan of automatic bulk action if several items are selected. > > - these lists can become long, and selected entries might > be off the screen > - for this to make sense, selected entries should remain > selected after action, increasing the danger of unwanted action > - you might be in the process of selecting some entries, when you > want to do a quick action on an individual entry you come across. > But you cannot, because any action will act on all selected ones. > > So I do prefer a special command like "B" to introduce bulk action. I undecided on this, too. Automagically working on marked entries should they exists seems more natural to me but you are right more dangerous, too. So I'm perfectly with you except that I'd say that marked entries should be unmarked after the action. But anyway, triggering bulk actions with a special command appears absolutely fine to me. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Yes, both shifting by the same amount and setting a fixed date can be useful. I usually re-schedule leftover todos by shifting them by one or two working days to the future. So originally I had a bulk version of `org-agenda-do-date-later' and friends in mind as opposed to `org-agenda-schedule'. But the latter one would be useful to. Ideally, S-left, C-cC-s et al. would trigger a bulk shift/bulk schedule whenever there are marked agenda items. I am not so sure about this last point. I am not a fan of automatic bulk action if several items are selected. - these lists can become long, and selected entries might be off the screen - for this to make sense, selected entries should remain selected after action, increasing the danger of unwanted action - you might be in the process of selecting some entries, when you want to do a quick action on an individual entry you come across. But you cannot, because any action will act on all selected ones. So I do prefer a special command like "B" to introduce bulk action. Opinions? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Christian Egli wrote: > Carsten Dominik writes: > >> On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: >>> Carsten Dominik wrote: Bulk action We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. >>> >>> IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. >> >> In what sense? Shifting all dates by the same amount, or setting them >> all to a fixed date? > > I usually display unscheduled TODO items in my agenda as well > (org-agenda-include-all-todo), so if I decide that I should work on some > of them next week then a bulk action to schedule them might come in > handy. > > So one use case is to set a fixed scheduled date for a number of TODOs. > In my case these are tasks that have not been scheduled yet. > > Another use case is when I decide that there will not be enough time > this week to complete all scheduled tasks. I want to move some of the > tasks to next week. This could be either a shift by 7 days or a > rescheduling to next monday (a fixed date). Yes, both shifting by the same amount and setting a fixed date can be useful. I usually re-schedule leftover todos by shifting them by one or two working days to the future. So originally I had a bulk version of `org-agenda-do-date-later' and friends in mind as opposed to `org-agenda-schedule'. But the latter one would be useful to. Ideally, S-left, C-cC-s et al. would trigger a bulk shift/bulk schedule whenever there are marked agenda items. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Hi all Carsten Dominik writes: > On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: >> Carsten Dominik wrote: >>> Bulk action >>> >>> >>> We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. >> >> IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. > > In what sense? Shifting all dates by the same amount, or setting them > all to a fixed date? I usually display unscheduled TODO items in my agenda as well (org-agenda-include-all-todo), so if I decide that I should work on some of them next week then a bulk action to schedule them might come in handy. So one use case is to set a fixed scheduled date for a number of TODOs. In my case these are tasks that have not been scheduled yet. Another use case is when I decide that there will not be enough time this week to complete all scheduled tasks. I want to move some of the tasks to next week. This could be either a shift by 7 days or a rescheduling to next monday (a fixed date). Thanks Christian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
On Jul 1, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Bulk action You can now use the `s' key to select entries in the agenda. When one or more entries have been selected, the `B' key will execute an action on all selected entries. I believe this bulk action makes mainly sense for the commands that require answering interactive prompts. So far the supported actions are - Refile all selected entries to a single destination - Archive all selected entries - Set the TODO state of all selected entries, bypassing any blocking or note-taking. - Add or remove a tag to/from all selected entries We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. In what sense? Shifting all dates by the same amount, or setting them all to a fixed date? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Carsten Dominik wrote: > Bulk action > > > You can now use the `s' key to select entries in the agenda. > When one or more entries have been selected, the `B' key will > execute an action on all selected entries. I believe this bulk > action makes mainly sense for the commands that require answering > interactive prompts. So far the supported actions are > > - Refile all selected entries to a single destination > - Archive all selected entries > - Set the TODO state of all selected entries, bypassing any >blocking or note-taking. > - Add or remove a tag to/from all selected entries > > We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. IMHO setting scheduled (and maybe deadline) date would make sense. Ulf ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Carsten Dominik writes: > I have changed the key bindings now: > > sback to save files, even tough I think C-x C-s is fine > If I find a use for "s" later, I will probably take it > vd > vw > vm > vy for the day, week, month, year views > > d > w still available shortcuts for day and week view > > vl for log mode, "l" still available as shortcut > va include :ARCHIVE: tree stuff > vA include :ARCHIVE: tree stuff and archive files > > m mark > u unmark > U unmark all > B execute bulk action > That'll work :) -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Carsten Dominik writes: > Hi, > > I have uploaded release 6.28. Once more I urge you to read > the release notes carefully, there are many very interesting changes. Thanks, as ever, for this fantastic update! I'm looking forward to using the new batch agenda operations. - Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Bernt Hansen wrote: Carsten Dominik writes: With `d' and `w' in place, `m' and `y' are consistent, logical. However, I don't believe anyone uses monthly views, I am sure that no-one uses yearly views, right? So I will negotiate over `m', i someone can propose a viable alternative that makes sense. I use monthly view... monthly :) To get my clock report usage for the file over the past month. I restrict the agenda to the single file when doing this monthly view to get clock time just for this project and that could possibly be done with a dynamic block. I've been enjoying not having my generated clock reports in my git history though and the agenda monthly view is perfect for that. Nobody is talking about abandoning monthly view - only about putting it on a different key. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
Carsten Dominik writes: > With `d' and `w' in place, `m' and `y' are consistent, logical. > However, I don't believe anyone uses monthly views, I am sure > that no-one uses yearly views, right? So I will negotiate over > `m', i someone can propose a viable alternative that makes sense. I use monthly view... monthly :) To get my clock report usage for the file over the past month. I restrict the agenda to the single file when doing this monthly view to get clock time just for this project and that could possibly be done with a dynamic block. I've been enjoying not having my generated clock reports in my git history though and the agenda monthly view is perfect for that. -Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.28
On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote: Changes in Version 6.28 === Bulk action You can now use the `s' key to select entries in the agenda. When one or more entries have been selected, the `B' key will execute an action on all selected entries. I believe this bulk action makes mainly sense for the commands that require answering interactive prompts. So far the supported actions are - Refile all selected entries to a single destination - Archive all selected entries - Set the TODO state of all selected entries, bypassing any blocking or note-taking. - Add or remove a tag to/from all selected entries We can add more actions, if you convince me they make sense. Note that this new command is not yet tested well and has destructive potential. Please test it under appropriate security measures, i.e. backups or git-protected files. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
