Re: [Orgmode] Re: Showing hidden subtree automatically if point is hidden when the buffer is opened
Bastien b...@gnu.org writes: User spamfilteracco...@gmail.com writes: I added the timer, because I didn't know in which order the hooks are run. If org-mode hook runs first and then saveplace's hook which restores point then the above code has no effect. saveplace adds the hook at the end of the hooks list, by calling add-hook like this: (add-hook 'find-file-hook 'save-place-find-file-hook t) ^ The `t' means put this hook at the end. So your org-mode hook will be safely called *before* saveplace's. Sorry, I mixed up the logic here -- the following hook is okay: --8---cut here---start-8--- (add-hook 'org-mode-hook (lambda () (when (outline-invisible-p) (save-excursion (outline-previous-visible-heading 1) (org-show-subtree t) ;; this makes sure this hook is run last --8---cut here---end---8--- If you load this *after* loading the saveplace hook then it should be okay. Thanks to Nick Dokos for shaking my brain on this :) -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Showing hidden subtree automatically if point is hidden when the buffer is opened
Bastien bastienguerry at googlemail.com writes: If you load this *after* loading the saveplace hook then it should be okay. Thanks to Nick Dokos for shaking my brain on this :) Well, wasn't my original solution with the null timer much nicer? You didn't have to worry about making sure you put org-mode hook last and that it loads after saveplace hook. Now the user has to pay attention to where he sets up the org-mode hook, instead of simply pasting the code anywhere in .emacs. :-o I tend to favor solutions which avoid such potential problems. :) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Nick Dokos: Re: [Orgmode] Re: Showing hidden subtree automatically if point is hidden when the buffer is opened
[forgot to copy the list - again...] --- Forwarded Message Date:Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:54:38 -0400 From:Nick Dokos nicholas.do...@hp.com To: User spamfilteracco...@gmail.com cc: nicholas.do...@hp.com Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: Showing hidden subtree automatically if point is hid den when the buffer is opened User spamfilteracco...@gmail.com wrote: Bastien bastienguerry at googlemail.com writes: If you load this *after* loading the saveplace hook then it should be okay. Thanks to Nick Dokos for shaking my brain on this :) Well, wasn't my original solution with the null timer much nicer? No. You didn't have to worry about making sure you put org-mode hook last and that it loads after saveplace hook. Yes, you can be a little lazy in setting it up and then pay the performance price for ever after. Now the user has to pay attention to where he sets up the org-mode hook, instead of simply pasting the code anywhere in .emacs. :-o I tend to favor solutions which avoid such potential problems. :) If they don't cost anything, yes. But I'm not sure I want an idle timer running all the time just to detect the (rare) occasions when I want to fold a tree. Thanks, Nick --- End of Forwarded Message ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Showing hidden subtree automatically if point is hidden when the buffer is opened
PT (emacs user) spamfilteracco...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Nick Dokosnicholas.do...@hp.com wrote: If they don't cost anything, yes. But I'm not sure I want an idle timer running all the time just to detect the (rare) occasions when I want to fold a tree. You misunderstand how it works. The idle timer doesn't run all the time. It's started when the org buffer is opened, it does its thing and then it stops running and it is disposed . It's a one-shot timer. Doesn't cost anything. Oh, right: I didn't notice the REPEAT arg in the doc. I still think that getting the configuration right in the first place is better, but I guess you have reduced it to an aesthetic choice. Thanks, Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Showing hidden subtree automatically if point is hidden when the buffer is opened
User spamfilteracco...@gmail.com writes: Bastien bastienguerry at googlemail.com writes: If you load this *after* loading the saveplace hook then it should be okay. Thanks to Nick Dokos for shaking my brain on this :) Well, wasn't my original solution with the null timer much nicer? You didn't have to worry about making sure you put org-mode hook last and that it loads after saveplace hook. Yes, but it's not straightforward to understand. To me, running a task when Emacs is idle for 0 seconds is very similar to run immediately - that's why I didn't understand why you'd put this first. Why not checking if this run-with-idle-timer trick is necessary? My understanding is that org-mode hooks will be called *after* saveplace restores the point. (I just want to avoid unnecessary tricks for people who use Worg as a place to learn things.) I tend to favor solutions which avoid such potential problems. :) If it ain't broken, don't fix it ;) -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Showing hidden subtree automatically if point is hidden when the buffer is opened
User spamfilteracco...@gmail.com writes: I added the timer, because I didn't know in which order the hooks are run. If org-mode hook runs first and then saveplace's hook which restores point then the above code has no effect. saveplace adds the hook at the end of the hooks list, by calling add-hook like this: (add-hook 'find-file-hook 'save-place-find-file-hook t) ^ The `t' means put this hook at the end. So your org-mode hook will be safely called *before* saveplace's. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
