Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode
I haven't tried viper yet, but there's another version of emacs for OSX, Aquamacs. Has anyone tried to check slowness in Aquamacs? ...just a thought. Cheers. Fil -- Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng. Mechanical and Industrial Engineering Ryerson University 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON M5B 2K3, Canada Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749 Fax: 416/979-5265 Email: salus...@ryerson.ca http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:47, Filippo A. Salustri salus...@ryerson.ca wrote: I haven't tried viper yet, but there's another version of emacs for OSX, Aquamacs. Has anyone tried to check slowness in Aquamacs? I expected Aquamacs just to be too different to Cocoa Emacs, but now I am surprised: In a Mac OS X Aquamacs-Emacs-2.1 there is also exactly the same viper insert slowness when in org-mode, disappearing with fundamental-mode or with the ~/.viper from my last post. In a Mac OS X Carbon Emacs 22.3.1, the last Mac OS X Carbon I think, I can not observe such slowness. Possibly because it is not Mac OS X Cocoa and/or it is not Emacs 23. Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode
Oh well. It was an idea. Cheers. Fil On 11 January 2011 17:38, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 21:47, Filippo A. Salustri salus...@ryerson.ca wrote: I haven't tried viper yet, but there's another version of emacs for OSX, Aquamacs. Has anyone tried to check slowness in Aquamacs? I expected Aquamacs just to be too different to Cocoa Emacs, but now I am surprised: In a Mac OS X Aquamacs-Emacs-2.1 there is also exactly the same viper insert slowness when in org-mode, disappearing with fundamental-mode or with the ~/.viper from my last post. In a Mac OS X Carbon Emacs 22.3.1, the last Mac OS X Carbon I think, I can not observe such slowness. Possibly because it is not Mac OS X Cocoa and/or it is not Emacs 23. Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Filippo A. Salustri, Ph.D., P.Eng. Mechanical and Industrial Engineering Ryerson University 350 Victoria St, Toronto, ON M5B 2K3, Canada Tel: 416/979-5000 ext 7749 Fax: 416/979-5265 Email: salus...@ryerson.ca http://deseng.ryerson.ca/~fil/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode
Hi Marcelo, hi all I think I have drilled down this slowness to be related with viper-mode color settings but now I can not help more. Since it seems to be a problem only in org-mode I hope that someone with a Mac OS X Cocoa Emacs 23 here on the list can analyze this further. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 03:26, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried to use this combo? I find that viper is too slow when in insert mode (when typing, actually), but only when in a buffer where orgmode is activated. Any ideas ? I noticed only now that I have this slowness when I start a Mac OS X Cocoa Emacs 23.2.1 with -q. With my settings it happened only sporadically every few weeks or months and disappeared I think after closing the buffer and reopening the file. Now I drilled down the slowness to be related with my color setting. When I have no or an empty ~/.emacs and a ~/.viper with this content: (setq viper-inhibit-startup-message 't) (setq viper-expert-level '3) (setq viper-vi-state-cursor-color sea green) (setq viper-insert-state-cursor-color sea green) and enter viper-mode before or after opening a file in org-mode the slowness disappears. When I uncomment only one of the two lines above with the viper-*-state-cursor-color and restart Emacs the slowness is back. When I stay in the buffer and change its major mode from org-mode to fundamental-mode the slowness disappears again. In a Linux GNU Emacs 23.2.1 I can not observe such slowness. Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode
Thanks Michael, I will try out your settings! It seems that Cocoa Emacs has several problems. Even if it works well overall, I've read in a lot of places users complaining about it, and indeed, it has several rendering flaws, just use it for any extended period of time and you'll spot a few, a bunch are related to performance. I hope the emacs developers spend more time on the Cocoa/OSX side of things for version 24! MacVim has been getting a lot of hype and attention lately and is very well supported, to make a quick comparison here. Cheers, Marcelo. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Marcelo, hi all I think I have drilled down this slowness to be related with viper-mode color settings but now I can not help more. Since it seems to be a problem only in org-mode I hope that someone with a Mac OS X Cocoa Emacs 23 here on the list can analyze this further. On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 03:26, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone tried to use this combo? I find that viper is too slow when in insert mode (when typing, actually), but only when in a buffer where orgmode is activated. Any ideas ? I noticed only now that I have this slowness when I start a Mac OS X Cocoa Emacs 23.2.1 with -q. With my settings it happened only sporadically every few weeks or months and disappeared I think after closing the buffer and reopening the file. Now I drilled down the slowness to be related with my color setting. When I have no or an empty ~/.emacs and a ~/.viper with this content: (setq viper-inhibit-startup-message 't) (setq viper-expert-level '3) (setq viper-vi-state-cursor-color sea green) (setq viper-insert-state-cursor-color sea green) and enter viper-mode before or after opening a file in org-mode the slowness disappears. When I uncomment only one of the two lines above with the viper-*-state-cursor-color and restart Emacs the slowness is back. When I stay in the buffer and change its major mode from org-mode to fundamental-mode the slowness disappears again. In a Linux GNU Emacs 23.2.1 I can not observe such slowness. Michael ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode
Hi list, Has anyone tried to use this combo? I find that viper is too slow when in insert mode (when typing, actually), but only when in a buffer where orgmode is activated. Any ideas ? Marcelo. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Viper-mode + orgmode + emacs 23.xx on OSX, slowness in insert-mode
Hi Marcelo, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com writes: Hi list, Has anyone tried to use this combo? I find that viper is too slow when in insert mode (when typing, actually), but only when in a buffer where orgmode is activated. Any ideas ? I've had that problem for a long time as well. And it seemed to me to be a showstopper for using org together with viper. But somehow I managed to improve the situation. I am sorry to not be more specific on this issue. But I can assure you it is possible to have a working configuration. I'd advice you to try loading org and viper in a clean emacs session (emacs -q). I somehow remember there was also an issue with the order in which I loaded org and viper. Currently I'm loading org before viper. My git history tells me that this line improved load times of the agenda significantly: (setq viper-suppress-input-method-change-message t) Cheers, Jean-Marie ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
