Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-09 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Sep 9, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Richard Moreland wrote:

Thanks for checking it out.  Unfortunately I don't have access to  
any Android hardware, and now that I've got Org on my iPhone, I  
probably won't be looking at any other hardware for a while :)  But  
I would be happy to help contribute code/ideas/experience/etc to any  
developers interested in taking it on.


To follow up on this:  What we are doing with this development is
not only write an iPhone app.  Equally important may be that
we are also establishing a protocol for this kind of asymmetric
synching, and implement the Emacs side of it.  Once that is in
place, apps for different platforms can be made, maybe re-using
some of Richard's code.  All these apps will be able to use the
Emacs integration.

- Carsten



On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:

Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be  
an

Android port as well?

Greetings

Sven




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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-09 Thread tycho garen
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 03:34:36PM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 To follow up on this:  What we are doing with this development is
 not only write an iPhone app.  Equally important may be that
 we are also establishing a protocol for this kind of asymmetric
 synching, and implement the Emacs side of it.  Once that is in
 place, apps for different platforms can be made, maybe re-using
 some of Richard's code.  All these apps will be able to use the
 Emacs integration.

Depending on the format of the files that the iPhone/J2me/etc. app
needs, would it not just make sense to use git/svn/etc as the
asymmetric protocol for synchronizing things? Or is this too simple? 

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-09 Thread aldrin d'souza
2009/9/8 Richard Moreland r...@ncogni.to

 I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.


Absolutely lovely. I've been waiting for this for long.

Once we feel the basics are worked out, we will solicit a request for beta
 testers and feedback


Please count me in.

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread Bastien
Richard Moreland r...@ncogni.to writes:

 Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
 http://ncogni.to/ mobileorg-demo1.mov

WOW... Great work!

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread Greg Newman
Bastien took the words out of my mouth! :D

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Richard Moreland r...@ncogni.to writes:

  Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
  http://ncogni.to/ mobileorg-demo1.mov

 WOW... Great work!

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread peter . frings


On 08 Sep 2009, at 16:24, Richard Moreland wrote:

I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.  We are  
still working out some of the details, but so far we have it running  
on the phone in a fairly usable state.  It needs some polish, but it  
is very nice to see my Org data easily accessible on a mobile device  
with offline access.  To be clear, we aren't trying to run Emacs on  
the device.  The goal is to view Org files and agendas as well as  
capture new notes.


Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  
http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

Once we feel the basics are worked out, we will solicit a request  
for beta testers and feedback, but for now you'll have to be  
satisfied with the demo video :)



Wow indeed. Some things immediately came up when viewing the movie; I  
hope you don't mind me posting them so soon.


I imagine the app does not require a live connection to the server. In  
order to work offline, I think that the app must

- clearly show the time of downloading each document,
- be able to capture and store multiple notes when offline and forward  
them when online. A way of reviewing the stored notes, possibly edit  
or remove them would be a bonus.


I could imagine that captured but not yet forwarded notes appear in  
the 'capture.org' document entry (on the App), marked as not-forwarded  
and being editable and removable. After syncing, these notes become  
part of the real capture.org document and thus read-only, just like  
the rest.



Oh well, you probably thought of all that, so I'll just shut up now...

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[Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread Richard Moreland
Hi all,

I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.  We are still
working out some of the details, but so far we have it running on the phone
in a fairly usable state.  It needs some polish, but it is very nice to see
my Org data easily accessible on a mobile device with offline access.  To be
clear, we aren't trying to run Emacs on the device.  The goal is to view Org
files and agendas as well as capture new notes.

Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

Once we feel the basics are worked out, we will solicit a request for beta
testers and feedback, but for now you'll have to be satisfied with the demo
video :)

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread John Rakestraw
 Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:
 http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov

For some reason I can't get to the video just now, but I'll still say
that this is really good news. Looking forward to the app.

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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Richard Moreland r...@ncogni.to writes:

 Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  http://ncogni.to/
 mobileorg-demo1.mov

Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be an
Android port as well?

Greetings

Sven


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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread Richard Moreland
Thanks for checking it out.  Unfortunately I don't have access to any  
Android hardware, and now that I've got Org on my iPhone, I probably  
won't be looking at any other hardware for a while :)  But I would be  
happy to help contribute code/ideas/experience/etc to any developers  
interested in taking it on.


On Sep 8, 2009, at 7:43 PM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:


Very nice, congratulations. The unavoidable question: Will there be an
Android port as well?

Greetings

Sven




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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread Richard Moreland

Hi Peter,

You nailed nearly point-for-point the current state of capturing notes  
in the app (as of today, after the demo video was made).  Thanks for  
your comments, I hadn't considered displaying the last sync time.   
That will indeed be handy.


As you imagined, you can operate entirely offline (that was my goal in  
the first place, after all).  You can view your outlines, add as many  
notes as you like, and sync whenever you care to.  You can edit/delete  
notes if they haven't been synced yet.  There's also a handy indicator  
on the bottom of the screen letting you know how many notes aren't yet  
synced.


Thanks,
Richard

On Sep 8, 2009, at 11:18 AM, peter.fri...@agfa.com wrote:

Wow indeed. Some things immediately came up when viewing the movie;  
I hope you don't mind me posting them so soon.


I imagine the app does not require a live connection to the server.  
In order to work offline, I think that the app must

- clearly show the time of downloading each document,
- be able to capture and store multiple notes when offline and  
forward them when online. A way of reviewing the stored notes,  
possibly edit or remove them would be a bonus.


I could imagine that captured but not yet forwarded notes appear in  
the 'capture.org' document entry (on the App), marked as not- 
forwarded and being editable and removable. After syncing, these  
notes become part of the real capture.org document and thus read- 
only, just like the rest.



Oh well, you probably thought of all that, so I'll just shut up now...

Cheers,
Peter.
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Re: [Orgmode] iPhone app for Org view and capture

2009-09-08 Thread Stefan Vollmar


On 08.09.2009, at 16:24, Richard Moreland wrote:


Hi all,

I've been working with Carsten on a free iPhone app for Org.  We are  
still working out some of the details, but so far we have it running  
on the phone in a fairly usable state.  It needs some polish, but it  
is very nice to see my Org data easily accessible on a mobile device  
with offline access.  To be clear, we aren't trying to run Emacs on  
the device.  The goal is to view Org files and agendas as well as  
capture new notes.


Here is a teaser video of the app running in the simulator:  
http://ncogni.to/mobileorg-demo1.mov


EXCELLENT! Looking forward to this one.

Warm regards,
 Stefan
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