Re: [Orgmode] possible bug: TAB after elipsis

2010-03-27 Thread Anthony Lander

Hi Carsten,

On 10-Mar-26, at 2:32 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:



On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Anthony Lander wrote:


If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this:

 Some entry...|

pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything  
useful at all. Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am  
I missing something?


Cursor after the dots means the cursor is no longer in the headline,
in fact it is no longer in the entry at all.


I was thinking about this a bit more. Is it possible to meet in the  
middle and restrict the cursor so that it can't go past the last  
character in the headline, like this:


*** Some entry|...

I suggest this because if you do type after the elipsis, the text goes  
right on the end of the folded entry, which I believe is undesirable  
as well; It means that part of the entry is invisible, and part is  
visible. Limiting the cursor would solve both problems. Is this even  
feasible?


Regards,

  -Anthony


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Re: [Orgmode] possible bug: TAB after elipsis

2010-03-26 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Anthony Lander wrote:


If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this:

 Some entry...|

pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything  
useful at all. Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am I  
missing something?


Cursor after the dots means the cursor is no longer in the headline,
in fact it is no longer in the entry at all.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] possible bug: TAB after elipsis

2010-03-26 Thread peter . frings

On 26 Mar 2010, at 07:32, Carsten Dominik wrote:

 On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Anthony Lander wrote:
 
 If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this:
 
   Some entry...|
 
 pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything useful at 
 all. Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am I missing something?
 
 Cursor after the dots means the cursor is no longer in the headline,
 in fact it is no longer in the entry at all.

Well, that may be technically correct, but from a UI point of view it isn't. 
We're still one the same (head)_line_, no?

Not that I find this an important issue to fix, mind you :-)

Cheers,
Peter.

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Re: [Orgmode] possible bug: TAB after elipsis

2010-03-26 Thread John Hendy
In my limited experience, I have already encountered this and been
surprised. I can see it both ways:

- On one hand: technically, the lead up of asterisks and the actual text
define the headline itself, as Carsten has pointed out.

- On the other hand, from a user standpoint I think it would be convenient.
I am not well versed in my keyboard-shortcut-fu, but I'm practicing and use
M-a/e a bit. One of the reasons this behavior is a bit annoying is that M-a
leads one to the spot /after/ an ellipsis. From there I want to press tab
and see the headline... but no dice. I admit that I can begin to use the
shortcuts specifically for navigating headlines. Learning a little at a time
and so currently I don't.

Anyway, my vote goes to expand it, even if technically the cursor is after
the 'body' since the 'body' is represented by the ellipsis. I think once it
is folded it serves only as a representation of the headline, not anything
useful having to do with actual folded text anymore.


John

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:38 AM, peter.fri...@agfa.com wrote:


 On 26 Mar 2010, at 07:32, Carsten Dominik wrote:

  On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Anthony Lander wrote:
 
  If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this:
 
    Some entry...|
 
  pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything useful at
 all. Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am I missing
 something?
 
  Cursor after the dots means the cursor is no longer in the headline,
  in fact it is no longer in the entry at all.

 Well, that may be technically correct, but from a UI point of view it
 isn't. We're still one the same (head)_line_, no?

 Not that I find this an important issue to fix, mind you :-)

 Cheers,
 Peter.

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Re: [Orgmode] possible bug: TAB after elipsis

2010-03-25 Thread Livin Stephen Sharma
Yep, I see this too!

setup
org-version: 6.34trans (from 2010_02_25)
emacs: 23.1.50.1

Livin Stephen Sharma



On Mar 24, 2010, at 23:34:40 , Anthony Lander wrote:

 If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this:
 
    Some entry...|
 
 pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything useful at all. 
 Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am I missing something?
 
 Thanks,
 
  -Anthony
 
 
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[Orgmode] possible bug: TAB after elipsis

2010-03-24 Thread Anthony Lander

If the cursor is after the elipsis on a folded entry like this:

 Some entry...|

pressing TAB doesn't expand the entry, or in fact, do anything useful  
at all. Is it possible to get it to expand the entry, or am I missing  
something?


Thanks,

  -Anthony


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