Re: [Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)

2010-07-18 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi David,

On Jul 17, 2010, at 8:34 AM, David Maus wrote:


Carsten Dominik wrote:


Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.


This is a known problem and texinfo provides the options

,
| @set txicodequoteundirected
| causes the output for the ' character to be the undirected  
single quote, like this:

|
| '.
| @set txicodequotebacktick
| Cause the output for the ` character to be the standalone  
grave accent, like this:

|
| `.
`
http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/manual/texinfo/Inserting-Quote-Characters.html

To make these options work the file texinfo.tex in doc has to replaced
by a recent version.  Here it is located at

/usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex

Compiling the manual with this texinfo.tex works fine and the quotes


Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the manual  
and also replaces

texinfo.tex?

Thanks you for squashing an old and annoying bug.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)

2010-07-18 Thread David Maus
Carsten Dominik wrote:
Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the manual
and also replaces
texinfo.tex?

Looks like the message with the patch is to large for the mailing list
(returns to sender).  So there is

git://github.com/dmj/dmj-org-mode.git fix/doc-texinfo-template

to pull from.

HTH,
  -- David
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Re: [Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)

2010-07-18 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:05 AM, David Maus wrote:


Carsten Dominik wrote:
Great!  Could you please submit a patch which fixes this in the  
manual

and also replaces
texinfo.tex?


Looks like the message with the patch is to large for the mailing list
(returns to sender).  So there is

git://github.com/dmj/dmj-org-mode.git fix/doc-texinfo-template

to pull from.


Great, thanks.


- Carsten




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Re: [Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)

2010-07-17 Thread David Maus
Carsten Dominik wrote:

Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.

This is a known problem and texinfo provides the options

,
| @set txicodequoteundirected
| causes the output for the ' character to be the undirected single quote, 
like this:
|
| '.
| @set txicodequotebacktick
| Cause the output for the ` character to be the standalone grave accent, 
like this:
|
| `.
`
http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/manual/texinfo/Inserting-Quote-Characters.html

To make these options work the file texinfo.tex in doc has to replaced
by a recent version.  Here it is located at

/usr/share/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex

Compiling the manual with this texinfo.tex works fine and the quotes

HTH,
  -- David

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[Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)

2010-07-16 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Jul 16,2010, at 10:36 AM, David Maus wrote:

 Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my 
 startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
 
  (add-hook ’org-mode-hook 
 (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu)))
 
 Um... Wrong type of quote?  It's 
 'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39)
 not
 ’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217)

Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing. Thank you 
regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect character has on the 
LISP processing? The error returned was related the name of the variable...

Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks like the 
single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode 8217. (And of course I 
copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything wrong when I typed it!) Would that 
be something worth correcting? I have this vague notion that I've encountered 
it elsewhere. The HTML version of the manual is rendered correctly, but the PDF 
is not, I think. A quick scan suggests this — the renderer turns all the single 
quotes into curly quotes, even when they are being used in code.

— Michael







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Re: [Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)

2010-07-16 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jul 16, 2010, at 10:21 PM, Michael Gilbert wrote:


On Jul 16,2010, at 10:36 AM, David Maus wrote:

Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end  
of my startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):



(add-hook ’org-mode-hook
   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu)))


Um... Wrong type of quote?  It's
'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39)
not
’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217)


Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing.  
Thank you regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect  
character has on the LISP processing? The error returned was related  
the name of the variable...


Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks  
like the single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode  
8217. (And of course I copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything  
wrong when I typed it!) Would that be something worth correcting? I  
have this vague notion that I've encountered it elsewhere. The HTML  
version of the manual is rendered correctly, but the PDF is not, I  
think. A quick scan suggests this — the renderer turns all the  
single quotes into curly quotes, even when they are being used in  
code.


Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.

- Carsten


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Re: [Orgmode] possible single-quote bug in PDF docs (was: trouble with Imenu integration)

2010-07-16 Thread Michael Gilbert
 Following the instructions from manual, I have this near the end of my 
 startup file (I hope that is copied correctly):
 
(add-hook ’org-mode-hook
   (lambda () (imenu-add-to-menubar Imenu)))
 
 Um... Wrong type of quote?  It's
 'org-mode-hook (ASCII 39)
 not
 ’org-mode-hook (Unicode 8217)
 
 Yep. When there wasn't an obvious answer, I found the same thing. Thank you 
 regardless, David. What effect is it that the incorrect character has on the 
 LISP processing? The error returned was related the name of the variable...
 
 Also, I guess this is a possible bug in the documentation: Looks like the 
 single quote in the PDF version of the manual is Unicode 8217. (And of 
 course I copied and pasted, to avoid getting anything wrong when I typed 
 it!) Would that be something worth correcting? I have this vague notion that 
 I've encountered it elsewhere. The HTML version of the manual is rendered 
 correctly, but the PDF is not, I think. A quick scan suggests this — the 
 renderer turns all the single quotes into curly quotes, even when they are 
 being used in code.
 
 Yes.  Unfortunately I don't know a way to fix this.

I am ignorant of LATEX and your particular architectural challenges of course. 
But the way scripts like John Grubers SmartyPants does it is by only converting 
those quote marks that are outside of tags indicating that the section is code 
or other exempt section (in HTML these would be  pre, code, kbd, 
orscript). 

— Michael


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