Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
Many thanks, Nicolas !!!
I've just tested. It looks good now. I should rather say it's excellent.
Am Mi., 6. Okt. 2021 um 16:13 Uhr schrieb Nicolas Goaziou <
m...@nicolasgoaziou.fr>:
> Hello,
>
> Elias Bounatirou writes:
>
> > However, it appears Nicolas' MWE unfortunately does not reproduce the
> > issue. It's not the footnote that is omitted/ not exported, it's the
> > citation in the footnote that is left out (when the footnote follows two
> or
> > more citations, of which one has a suffix). In Nicolas' MWE, there is no
> > citation in the footnote. What seems to me (being no export on LaTeX)
> > strange about Bruce's LaTeX output is that there is no command
> > \footnote{...} or the like. So is the footnote-part of the LaTeX output
> > real LaTeX? (Sorry for this naïve question.)
>
> I noticed my ECM was not right. It took me a while to figure out the
> issue.
>
> > I've tested again.
> > With verbose I get the same erroneous result: the citation in the
> footnote
> > is not rendered (using the development version of org-mode, see below):
> > INPUT:
> >
>
> [...]
>
> > Body text [cite: @ravlic2021; @saric2010 with a SUFFIX][fn:1]
>
> [...]
>
> > [fn:1]Test [cite: @senker1987]
> >
> > LaTeX OUTPUT (shortened):
> >
> > Body text \autocites{ravlic2021}[][with a
> SUFFIX]{saric2010}\footnote{Test}
>
> I think I fixed it. Could you confirm it?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
Hello,
Elias Bounatirou writes:
> However, it appears Nicolas' MWE unfortunately does not reproduce the
> issue. It's not the footnote that is omitted/ not exported, it's the
> citation in the footnote that is left out (when the footnote follows two or
> more citations, of which one has a suffix). In Nicolas' MWE, there is no
> citation in the footnote. What seems to me (being no export on LaTeX)
> strange about Bruce's LaTeX output is that there is no command
> \footnote{...} or the like. So is the footnote-part of the LaTeX output
> real LaTeX? (Sorry for this naïve question.)
I noticed my ECM was not right. It took me a while to figure out the
issue.
> I've tested again.
> With verbose I get the same erroneous result: the citation in the footnote
> is not rendered (using the development version of org-mode, see below):
> INPUT:
>
[...]
> Body text [cite: @ravlic2021; @saric2010 with a SUFFIX][fn:1]
[...]
> [fn:1]Test [cite: @senker1987]
>
> LaTeX OUTPUT (shortened):
>
> Body text \autocites{ravlic2021}[][with a SUFFIX]{saric2010}\footnote{Test}
I think I fixed it. Could you confirm it?
Thank you.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
Many thanks to Nicolas and Bruce for their mails and their help.
However, it appears Nicolas' MWE unfortunately does not reproduce the
issue. It's not the footnote that is omitted/ not exported, it's the
citation in the footnote that is left out (when the footnote follows two or
more citations, of which one has a suffix). In Nicolas' MWE, there is no
citation in the footnote. What seems to me (being no export on LaTeX)
strange about Bruce's LaTeX output is that there is no command
\footnote{...} or the like. So is the footnote-part of the LaTeX output
real LaTeX? (Sorry for this naïve question.)
I've tested again.
With verbose I get the same erroneous result: the citation in the footnote
is not rendered (using the development version of org-mode, see below):
INPUT:
#+LANGUAGE: en
#+latex_header:\usepackage{minted}
#+bibliography_style: plain
#+cite_export: biblatex verbose
# Bibliography (bib file) specified within org-ref-cite in the init file
Body text [cite: @ravlic2021; @saric2010 with a SUFFIX][fn:1]
\printbibliography
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(org-version)
#+end_src
#+RESULTS:
: 9.5
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(emacs-version)
#+end_src
#+RESULTS:
: GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20, cairo
version 1.16.0)
: of 2021-06-04
* Footnotes
[fn:1]Test [cite: @senker1987]
LaTeX OUTPUT (shortened):
Body text \autocites{ravlic2021}[][with a SUFFIX]{saric2010}\footnote{Test}
\printbibliography
As a work around I insert a zero width space before footnotes in the
context described.
Am Mo., 4. Okt. 2021 um 16:26 Uhr schrieb Bruce D'Arcus :
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:11 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:23 PM Nicolas Goaziou
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Elias Bounatirou writes:
> > >
> > > > Just to clarify the BUG:
> > > > Citations in a footnote in the following environment are not
> exported to
> > > > LaTeX: when the footnote follows two or more citations, of which one
> has a
> > > > suffix, i.e. for instance in
> > > >
> > > > Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011 with a
> > > > suffix][fn:3].
> > >
> > > I cannot reproduce the problem. With the following document:
> > >
> > > --8<---cut here---start->8---
> > > #+bibliography: foo.bibtex
> > > #+cite_export: biblatex authoryear
> >
> > Can you try with a note-based style like verbose?
>
> Now I'm not sure.
>
> Input:
>
>
> #+language: en
> #+bibliography: test.bib
> #+cite_export: biblatex verbose
>
> Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011; with a
> suffix][fn:1].
>
> #+print_bibliography:
>
> * Footnotes
>
> [fn:1] Third commentary, and then a citation: [cite:@low2001].
> ---
>
> LaTeX output:
>
> ---
> Body text with a citation: \autocites(with a
> suffix){low2001}[][]{mcneill2011}\relax[1].
>
> \printbibliography
>
>
>
> Footnotes
> ─
>
> [1] Third commentary, and then a citation: \autocite{low2001}.
> ---
>
> But the PDF leaves off the last citation, in the footnote.
>
> Bruce
>
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:11 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:23 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Elias Bounatirou writes:
> >
> > > Just to clarify the BUG:
> > > Citations in a footnote in the following environment are not exported to
> > > LaTeX: when the footnote follows two or more citations, of which one has a
> > > suffix, i.e. for instance in
> > >
> > > Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011 with a
> > > suffix][fn:3].
> >
> > I cannot reproduce the problem. With the following document:
> >
> > --8<---cut here---start->8---
> > #+bibliography: foo.bibtex
> > #+cite_export: biblatex authoryear
>
> Can you try with a note-based style like verbose?
Now I'm not sure.
Input:
#+language: en
#+bibliography: test.bib
#+cite_export: biblatex verbose
Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011; with a suffix][fn:1].
#+print_bibliography:
* Footnotes
[fn:1] Third commentary, and then a citation: [cite:@low2001].
---
LaTeX output:
---
Body text with a citation: \autocites(with a
suffix){low2001}[][]{mcneill2011}\relax[1].
\printbibliography
Footnotes
─
[1] Third commentary, and then a citation: \autocite{low2001}.
---
But the PDF leaves off the last citation, in the footnote.
Bruce
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:23 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > Elias Bounatirou writes: > > > Just to clarify the BUG: > > Citations in a footnote in the following environment are not exported to > > LaTeX: when the footnote follows two or more citations, of which one has a > > suffix, i.e. for instance in > > > > Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011 with a > > suffix][fn:3]. > > I cannot reproduce the problem. With the following document: > > --8<---cut here---start->8--- > #+bibliography: foo.bibtex > #+cite_export: biblatex authoryear Can you try with a note-based style like verbose? Bruce
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
Hello,
Elias Bounatirou writes:
> Just to clarify the BUG:
> Citations in a footnote in the following environment are not exported to
> LaTeX: when the footnote follows two or more citations, of which one has a
> suffix, i.e. for instance in
>
> Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011 with a
> suffix][fn:3].
I cannot reproduce the problem. With the following document:
--8<---cut here---start->8---
#+bibliography: foo.bibtex
#+cite_export: biblatex authoryear
Body text with a citation: [cite:@foo; @bar with a suffix][fn:1].
* Footnotes
[fn:1] Test
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
I get,
--8<---cut here---start->8---
Body text with a citation: \autocites{foo}[][with a suffix]{bar}\footnote{Test}.
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
If I write
--8<---cut here---start->8---
Body text with a citation: [cite:@foo; @bar; with a suffix][fn:1].
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
instead, I get
--8<---cut here---start->8---
Body text with a citation: \autocites(with a
suffix){foo}[][]{bar}\footnote{Test}.
--8<---cut here---end--->8---
Both seem correct.
Regards,
--
Nicolas Goaziou
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
Just to clarify the BUG:
Citations in a footnote in the following environment are not exported to
LaTeX: when the footnote follows two or more citations, of which one has a
suffix, i.e. for instance in
Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011 with a
suffix][fn:3].
Am Mo., 6. Sept. 2021 um 17:45 Uhr schrieb Bruce D'Arcus :
> It does seems there's a little bug with this; for in-footnote citation
> outputs, but the second not.
>
> Body text with a citation: [cite:@mcneill2011 with a suffix][fn:2].
>
> Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011; with a
> suffix][fn:3].
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:50 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> >
> > This works fine for me:
> >
> > #+bibliography: test.bib
> > #+cite_export: biblatex verbose
> >
> > Body text with a citation: [cite:@mcneill2011].
> >
> > Footnote: [fn:1]
> >
> > #+print_bibliography:
> >
> > * Footnotes
> >
> > [fn:1] A commentary, and then a citation: [cite:@low2001].
> >
> > Results for the end is:
> >
> > Body text with a citation: \autocite{mcneill2011}.
> >
> > Footnote: \footnote{A commentary, and then a citation:
> \autocite{low2001}.}
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 6:04 AM Elias Bounatirou
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I tried to insert a citation in a footnote using Org-ref-cite.
> Unfortunately, when exporting to LaTeX, the citation is ignored, i.e., it
> is left out and does not appear in the LaTeX output. Is there a way to make
> references appear in the footnotes or is there at least a work around? The
> footnote itself in my case was created by C-c C-x f.
> > > I am writing to the list, following John Kitchin's advice, who
> supposes that the problem might be a limitation in Org-cite, see also my
> github issue https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref-cite/issues/22.
> > > I am using Org-mode to write a book on a linguistic subject and I
> absolutely (desperately!) need footnotes with references in them.
> Therefore, if the functionality in question does not exist, my mail is also
> a feature request to create it.
> > > Many thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > Elias
> > >
> > > (org-version)
> > > "9.4.6"
> > > (emacs-version)
> > > "GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20,
> cairo version 1.16.0)
> > > of 2021-06-04"
>
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
It does seems there's a little bug with this; for in-footnote citation
outputs, but the second not.
Body text with a citation: [cite:@mcneill2011 with a suffix][fn:2].
Body text with a citation: [cite:@low2001; @mcneill2011; with a suffix][fn:3].
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 7:50 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
>
> This works fine for me:
>
> #+bibliography: test.bib
> #+cite_export: biblatex verbose
>
> Body text with a citation: [cite:@mcneill2011].
>
> Footnote: [fn:1]
>
> #+print_bibliography:
>
> * Footnotes
>
> [fn:1] A commentary, and then a citation: [cite:@low2001].
>
> Results for the end is:
>
> Body text with a citation: \autocite{mcneill2011}.
>
> Footnote: \footnote{A commentary, and then a citation: \autocite{low2001}.}
>
> On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 6:04 AM Elias Bounatirou
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I tried to insert a citation in a footnote using Org-ref-cite.
> > Unfortunately, when exporting to LaTeX, the citation is ignored, i.e., it
> > is left out and does not appear in the LaTeX output. Is there a way to make
> > references appear in the footnotes or is there at least a work around? The
> > footnote itself in my case was created by C-c C-x f.
> > I am writing to the list, following John Kitchin's advice, who supposes
> > that the problem might be a limitation in Org-cite, see also my github
> > issue https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref-cite/issues/22.
> > I am using Org-mode to write a book on a linguistic subject and I
> > absolutely (desperately!) need footnotes with references in them.
> > Therefore, if the functionality in question does not exist, my mail is also
> > a feature request to create it.
> > Many thanks for your help.
> >
> > Elias
> >
> > (org-version)
> > "9.4.6"
> > (emacs-version)
> > "GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20, cairo
> > version 1.16.0)
> > of 2021-06-04"
Re: Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
This works fine for me:
#+bibliography: test.bib
#+cite_export: biblatex verbose
Body text with a citation: [cite:@mcneill2011].
Footnote: [fn:1]
#+print_bibliography:
* Footnotes
[fn:1] A commentary, and then a citation: [cite:@low2001].
Results for the end is:
Body text with a citation: \autocite{mcneill2011}.
Footnote: \footnote{A commentary, and then a citation: \autocite{low2001}.}
On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 6:04 AM Elias Bounatirou
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I tried to insert a citation in a footnote using Org-ref-cite. Unfortunately,
> when exporting to LaTeX, the citation is ignored, i.e., it is left out and
> does not appear in the LaTeX output. Is there a way to make references appear
> in the footnotes or is there at least a work around? The footnote itself in
> my case was created by C-c C-x f.
> I am writing to the list, following John Kitchin's advice, who supposes that
> the problem might be a limitation in Org-cite, see also my github issue
> https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref-cite/issues/22.
> I am using Org-mode to write a book on a linguistic subject and I absolutely
> (desperately!) need footnotes with references in them. Therefore, if the
> functionality in question does not exist, my mail is also a feature request
> to create it.
> Many thanks for your help.
>
> Elias
>
> (org-version)
> "9.4.6"
> (emacs-version)
> "GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20, cairo
> version 1.16.0)
> of 2021-06-04"
Citation in footnote not expanded/exported to LaTeX (using Org-ref-cite)
Hello, I tried to insert a citation in a footnote using Org-ref-cite. Unfortunately, when exporting to LaTeX, the citation is ignored, i.e., it is left out and does not appear in the LaTeX output. Is there a way to make references appear in the footnotes or is there at least a work around? The footnote itself in my case was created by C-c C-x f. I am writing to the list, following John Kitchin's advice, who supposes that the problem might be a limitation in Org-cite, see also my github issue https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref-cite/issues/22. I am using Org-mode to write a book on a linguistic subject and I absolutely (desperately!) need footnotes with references in them. Therefore, if the functionality in question does not exist, my mail is also a feature request to create it. Many thanks for your help. Elias (org-version) "9.4.6" (emacs-version) "GNU Emacs 27.2 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.20, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2021-06-04"
