Re: [O] C-c ^ not fully useful
Hi François, François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: P.S. About an option to sort the previous way, that is, by the physical contents of the line, visible or not, I do not have a use case for it, I would not need such an option. I sometimes, yet not often, need to group together links by their originating site, and then, the standard Emacs line sorting function gave me a very good approximation, good enough for my little needs. Thanks for your feedback on this. We will announce the feature widely enough so that users who need the parameter can chime in. Best, -- Bastien
Re: [O] C-c ^ not fully useful
Hi François, sorting list items and headlines is now done against the visible part of the item and headlines, i.e., it ignores hidden links and emphasis markers. I am not sure it is useful to add a parameter to `org-sort-list' and `org-sort-entries' to let the user change this default behavior: do you have a significant use-case for this? François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: - Could some parameterisation be added so one could map user written functions over (free) option letters? Here again, my feeling is that it would be over-engineered -- would you use it yourself? How? Thanks for suggesting this improvements! -- Bastien
Re: [O] C-c ^ not fully useful
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: are you sure it removes emphasis markers as well? Looks to me that org-sort-remove-invisible only removes links. I guess it could be rewritten looking at invisibility properties, but that might be problematic when sorting includes a part of the buffer that has not yet been visible in a window and therefore might not be propertized properly. You are right, the version that removes emphasis markers based on the visibility[1] specs is buggy. I tweaked `org-sort-remove-invisible' so that it removes emphasis markers for good[2]. I did some testing and it works okay, let me know if you anticipate any other problem. Thanks, [1] http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=30d6dc [2] http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=662cb9 -- Bastien
Re: [O] C-c ^ not fully useful
On 25 feb. 2013, at 10:28, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hi François, sorting list items and headlines is now done against the visible part of the item and headlines, i.e., it ignores hidden links and emphasis markers. Hi Bastien, are you sure it removes emphasis markers as well? Looks to me that org-sort-remove-invisible only removes links. I guess it could be rewritten looking at invisibility properties, but that might be problematic when sorting includes a part of the buffer that has not yet been visible in a window and therefore might not be propertized properly. - Carsten I am not sure it is useful to add a parameter to `org-sort-list' and `org-sort-entries' to let the user change this default behavior: do you have a significant use-case for this? François Pinard pin...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: - Could some parameterisation be added so one could map user written functions over (free) option letters? Here again, my feeling is that it would be over-engineered -- would you use it yourself? How? Thanks for suggesting this improvements! -- Bastien -- Having an entire horizon of things you half-care about. -- Merlin Mann in Inbox Zero
Re: [O] C-c ^ not fully useful
Bastien b...@altern.org writes: [1] http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=30d6dc [2] http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=662cb9 While your commits are rather small, I would likely never have figured out how to do them, the magic goes over my head. It's a little like playing go against someone who is far from your own level: you objectively observe that the heavens is falling apart on your head, but you just don't understand how nor why it is happening. :-) By the way, Bastien, it seems that your correction wonderfully works. It's so comfortable being able to see long lists of links (visually) sorted in a correct way. Thanks a lot for this. François P.S. About an option to sort the previous way, that is, by the physical contents of the line, visible or not, I do not have a use case for it, I would not need such an option. I sometimes, yet not often, need to group together links by their originating site, and then, the standard Emacs line sorting function gave me a very good approximation, good enough for my little needs.
Re: [O] C-c ^ not fully useful
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 02:36:57PM -0500, François Pinard wrote: - Could org-sort, by default and for most of its current option letters, sort alphabetically (or lexicographically as they say!) over the visual aspect of the line instead of its physical contents? It might be difficult if Emacs has no function to reach the visual aspect of a line. I guess that most users would expect a visual sort. I think this is a good idea. It should be possible to just test if the first entity is a link and extract the title part using org-elements - Options might be added to sort over the physical contents of the line instead. And there always is M-x sort-lines RET !). Agreed. - Could some parameterisation be added so one could map user written functions over (free) option letters? Again, a good idea. :) Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.
