Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-13 Thread Josef Wolf
On Mo, Mai 12, 2014 at 10:22:02 +, Dominic Surano wrote:
 Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current 
 year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before 
 it's due.
 
 * Calendar
 ** Birthdays
 *** Somebody
 DEADLINE: 2014-05-12 Tue +1y

By setting it to the current year, I'd loose track of the original year when
the event happened.
I _really_ like the idea of XXX is %d years old, like it is shown in the
org-anniversary example!

-- 
Josef Wolf
j...@raven.inka.de



Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-13 Thread Josef Wolf
On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 09:40:56 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
 Dominic Surano sk8ing...@gmail.com writes:
 Deadlines and schedules are generally for things that require an action
 on your part, and thus will continue to show up in the agenda as
 un-acted-upon if you don't do anything. Usually, for things like
 birthdays, you just use a plain timestamp (no scheduled or deadline),
 and then you can just see it coming in the usual org agenda. I don't
 think there's any other way to give a specific warning about an upcoming
 timestamp, though...

Yeah, that seems to work better.

But still no way for something like Married %d years ago! like its shown in
the org-anniversary example on orgmode.org/manual/Weekly_002fdaily-agenda.html

-- 
Josef Wolf
j...@raven.inka.de



Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-13 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de writes:

 On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 09:40:56 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
 Dominic Surano sk8ing...@gmail.com writes:
 Deadlines and schedules are generally for things that require an action
 on your part, and thus will continue to show up in the agenda as
 un-acted-upon if you don't do anything. Usually, for things like
 birthdays, you just use a plain timestamp (no scheduled or deadline),
 and then you can just see it coming in the usual org agenda. I don't
 think there's any other way to give a specific warning about an upcoming
 timestamp, though...

 Yeah, that seems to work better.

 But still no way for something like Married %d years ago! like its shown in
 the org-anniversary example on orgmode.org/manual/Weekly_002fdaily-agenda.html

Ah, for that you'll want (setq org-agenda-include-diary t). I assume you
don't have that set right now?




Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-13 Thread Josef Wolf
On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 05:07:19 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
 Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de writes:
 Ah, for that you'll want (setq org-agenda-include-diary t). I assume you
 don't have that set right now?

Yes, it works with this setting. Thanks!

I was confused by this paragraph:

| If you are using the diary only for sexp entries and holidays, it is faster to
| not use the above setting, but instead to copy or even move the entries into
| an Org file. Org mode evaluates diary-style sexp entries, and does it faster
| because there is no overhead for first creating the diary display.

Since I don't want the DIARY-ANNIVERSARY anyway (because of its wired ordering
of arguments), I hesitated to use the setting that the documentation suggests
not to set =8-()
 
-- 
Josef Wolf
j...@raven.inka.de



Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-13 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de writes:

 On Di, Mai 13, 2014 at 05:07:19 +0800, Eric Abrahamsen wrote:
 Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de writes:
 Ah, for that you'll want (setq org-agenda-include-diary t). I assume you
 don't have that set right now?

 Yes, it works with this setting. Thanks!

 I was confused by this paragraph:

 | If you are using the diary only for sexp entries and holidays, it is faster 
 to
 | not use the above setting, but instead to copy or even move the entries into
 | an Org file. Org mode evaluates diary-style sexp entries, and does it faster
 | because there is no overhead for first creating the diary display.

 Since I don't want the DIARY-ANNIVERSARY anyway (because of its wired ordering
 of arguments), I hesitated to use the setting that the documentation suggests
 not to set =8-()

You're right, that bit is confusing! I think the diary is a bit of a
holdover that no one quite knows what to do with. It's the only package
that defines arbitrary period expressions, so it keeps getting used,
but it seems like not many people actually use the diary as a diary.




Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-13 Thread Nick Dokos
Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de writes:

 On Mo, Mai 12, 2014 at 10:22:02 +, Dominic Surano wrote:
 Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current 
 year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before 
 it's due.
 
 * Calendar
 ** Birthdays
 *** Somebody
 DEADLINE: 2014-05-12 Tue +1y

 By setting it to the current year, I'd loose track of the original year when
 the event happened.
 I _really_ like the idea of XXX is %d years old, like it is shown in the
 org-anniversary example!

I don't use the diary at all: I keep anniversaries in BBDB.

See

  (info (org) weekly/daily agenda)

for details.

Nick







Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-12 Thread Dominic Surano
Josef Wolf jw at raven.inka.de writes:

 
 Hello,
 
 I am trying to use org-mode for birthdays. I have tried those two entries:
 
 * Calendar
 ** Birthdays
 *** Somebody
 SCHEDULED: 1970-05-20 Mo +1y
 *** Somebody1
 SCHEDULED:
  %%(org-anniversary 1970  5 20) Somebody1 is %d years old
 
 The first entry is shown in the agenda for the current day as:
 
   Calendar:   Sched.358x:  Somebody
 
 I find this a bit strange. I want a reminder a couple of days before the
 event. But I don't want an everday reminder of how days have gone past the
 last event.
 
 The second entry doesn't appear at all in the agenda.
 
 Any ideas what I am missing here?
 

Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current 
year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before 
it's due.

* Calendar
** Birthdays
*** Somebody
DEADLINE: 2014-05-12 Tue +1y




Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-12 Thread Erik Iverson
Not a direct answer, but have you found the org-contacts package?

 https://julien.danjou.info/projects/emacs-packages#org-contacts

It supports the BIRTHDAY property. See the note at bottom of the link above
about how it integrates with the agenda.

Example:

** Dad
:PROPERTIES:
:BIRTHDAY: 1955-01-21
:END:



On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Josef Wolf j...@raven.inka.de wrote:

 Hello,

 I am trying to use org-mode for birthdays. I have tried those two entries:

 * Calendar
 ** Birthdays
 *** Somebody
 SCHEDULED: 1970-05-20 Mo +1y
 *** Somebody1
 SCHEDULED:
  %%(org-anniversary 1970  5 20) Somebody1 is %d years old


 The first entry is shown in the agenda for the current day as:


   Calendar:   Sched.358x:  Somebody

 I find this a bit strange. I want a reminder a couple of days before the
 event. But I don't want an everday reminder of how days have gone past the
 last event.

 The second entry doesn't appear at all in the agenda.

 Any ideas what I am missing here?

 --
 Josef Wolf
 j...@raven.inka.de




Re: [O] How to specify birthdays?

2014-05-12 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Dominic Surano sk8ing...@gmail.com writes:

 Josef Wolf jw at raven.inka.de writes:

 
 Hello,
 
 I am trying to use org-mode for birthdays. I have tried those two entries:
 
 * Calendar
 ** Birthdays
 *** Somebody
 SCHEDULED: 1970-05-20 Mo +1y
 *** Somebody1
 SCHEDULED:
  %%(org-anniversary 1970  5 20) Somebody1 is %d years old
 
 The first entry is shown in the agenda for the current day as:
 
   Calendar:   Sched.358x:  Somebody
 
 I find this a bit strange. I want a reminder a couple of days before the
 event. But I don't want an everday reminder of how days have gone past the
 last event.
 
 The second entry doesn't appear at all in the agenda.
 
 Any ideas what I am missing here?
 

 Make it a deadline instead of a SCHEDULED item and set it to the current 
 year with the +1y modifier. That way it will only come up a few days before 
 it's due.

 * Calendar
 ** Birthdays
 *** Somebody
 DEADLINE: 2014-05-12 Tue +1y

Deadlines and schedules are generally for things that require an action
on your part, and thus will continue to show up in the agenda as
un-acted-upon if you don't do anything. Usually, for things like
birthdays, you just use a plain timestamp (no scheduled or deadline),
and then you can just see it coming in the usual org agenda. I don't
think there's any other way to give a specific warning about an upcoming
timestamp, though...

Eric