Re: [O] URGENT Need help fixing beamer exporting, can someone jump on IRC?

2013-03-05 Thread James Harkins
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:18 PM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, sorry to press, but is anyone on the org-mode IRC channel?

 The new beamer exporter has suddenly gotten borked on my system and I
 can't restore it. I have class tomorrow morning. This is an emergency.

OK, in desperation, I checked out my sandbox branch (based on master),
cleaned all the elc files, and quit and relaunched Emacs. Now it's
fine.

I had been using C-c C-x ! to reload org after doing a make but this
turned out to mess things up pretty badly. I could get reasonable
behavior only by quitting emacs and restarting it. I don't know if
that should be considered a bug or not. Perhaps I don't understand
what C-c C-x ! is supposed to do? Tonight at least, it was totally
unreliable.

So, crisis averted, but it was quite scary to get essentially complete
garbage from the beamer exporter...

hjh



Re: [O] URGENT Need help fixing beamer exporting, can someone jump on IRC?

2013-03-05 Thread Achim Gratz
James Harkins jamshark70 at gmail.com writes:
 I had been using C-c C-x ! to reload org after doing a make but this
 turned out to mess things up pretty badly. I could get reasonable
 behavior only by quitting emacs and restarting it. I don't know if
 that should be considered a bug or not. Perhaps I don't understand
 what C-c C-x ! is supposed to do? Tonight at least, it was totally
 unreliable.

You can't switch between maint and master without restarting Emacs.  Even when
it appears to work it really doesn't.


Regards,
Achim.





Re: [O] URGENT Need help fixing beamer exporting, can someone jump on IRC?

2013-03-05 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi James,

On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 11:28:35PM +0800, James Harkins wrote:
 I had been using C-c C-x ! to reload org after doing a make but this
 turned out to mess things up pretty badly. I could get reasonable
 behavior only by quitting emacs and restarting it. I don't know if
 that should be considered a bug or not. Perhaps I don't understand
 what C-c C-x ! is supposed to do? Tonight at least, it was totally
 unreliable.

org-reload is there for convenience, quite often a proper emacs restart
is indeed required to get a consistent Org instance.

That said, I have noticed something odd about the new exporter and
org-reload.  I think with the new exporter after doing org-reload, org
related config is not reloaded properly.  This borks the Org instance.
This is more visible when using the Beamer backend since it requires
customisation of org-latex-classes by the user.  One of these days, I'll
try to come up with a proper recipe to reproduce this.

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.



Re: [O] URGENT Need help fixing beamer exporting, can someone jump on IRC?

2013-03-05 Thread Achim Gratz
Suvayu Ali writes:
 That said, I have noticed something odd about the new exporter and
 org-reload.  I think with the new exporter after doing org-reload, org
 related config is not reloaded properly.

Config is not reloaded at all (and never has been), any configuration
variables that are already existing are not touched when the file gets
reloaded.

 This borks the Org instance.  This is more visible when using the
 Beamer backend since it requires customisation of org-latex-classes by
 the user.  One of these days, I'll try to come up with a proper recipe
 to reproduce this.

Please do, this should not happen.


Regards,
Achim.
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