Re: [O] org-cook
Hello everyone, Since we are on this subject, are you aware of any package that would make an 'automatic' shopping list based on recipes? My idea was to record recipes in this format: * Name of the recipe :tag: 1) Step one. 2) Step two. 3) Step three. :PROPERTIES: :ingredient_1: quantity :ingredient_2: quantity :ingredient_3: quantity :END: Tags could be anything, be mainly things like 'breakfast', 'main course' or 'dessert'. Then, with the point on the headline, (in the file buffer or in the agenda buffer), you could call a function that would add the ingredient to a list, or increment its quantity if the ingredient is already there. Maybe a function to add a random number of recipes (through a filter or not) to the shopping list would be nice too, if you don't know what to cook in a particular week. I'm planning to do this but my Elisp-fu is not great... Any tips of how implementing this? Are lists a good data structure for stocking the shopping list, before dumping it in a buffer? FC On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu wrote: I also use tables, and have one big recipe.org file. I considered ingredient properties, etc., but ended up just text and find recipes by using simple searches. They look like this: * Texas Skillet Corn Bread | Ingredient | Quantity | Instructions| |+--+-| | Bacon drippings or oil | 1/4 cup | | | Yellow CornMeal| 1 cup| | | All Purpose Flour | 1 cup| | | Salt | 1/2 tsp | | | Baking Power | 1 tsp| | | Baking Soda| 1 tsp| | | Sugar | 1 tbs| optional| | Buttermilk | 1 cup| | | Eggs | 2| slightly beaten | |+--+-| 1. Heat drippings in iron skillet 2. In large mixing bowl, mix cornmeal, flour, salt, baking x, and sugar. 3. Add buttermilk and stir rapidly. 4. Add eggs and mix 5. Add drippings 6. Pour into skillet, cover, and cook on low heat until lightly browned and almost cooked through.
Re: [O] org-cook
thank you all for the great answers Fletcher, your idea sounds great, but why not use org tables as people suggested for ingredients. ive started using it yesterday and im very pleased, in example: *** COOK Pancakes:American: :PROPERTIES: :Source: TV :Serves: :Time: :Rating: :Fav: :END: | Quantity | scale | Ingredient| Instructions | |--+---+---+--| |8 | | eggs | | |1 | liter | milk | | | 350 | g | butter| melted | | 730 | g | flour | | | 90 | g | powderd sugar | | | 60 | g | baking powder | | | 10 | g | salt | | _*Directions*:_ best Z On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Fletcher Charest fletcher.char...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Since we are on this subject, are you aware of any package that would make an 'automatic' shopping list based on recipes? My idea was to record recipes in this format: * Name of the recipe :tag: 1) Step one. 2) Step two. 3) Step three. :PROPERTIES: :ingredient_1: quantity :ingredient_2: quantity :ingredient_3: quantity :END: Tags could be anything, be mainly things like 'breakfast', 'main course' or 'dessert'. Then, with the point on the headline, (in the file buffer or in the agenda buffer), you could call a function that would add the ingredient to a list, or increment its quantity if the ingredient is already there. Maybe a function to add a random number of recipes (through a filter or not) to the shopping list would be nice too, if you don't know what to cook in a particular week. I'm planning to do this but my Elisp-fu is not great... Any tips of how implementing this? Are lists a good data structure for stocking the shopping list, before dumping it in a buffer? FC On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu wrote: I also use tables, and have one big recipe.org file. I considered ingredient properties, etc., but ended up just text and find recipes by using simple searches. They look like this: * Texas Skillet Corn Bread | Ingredient | Quantity | Instructions| |+--+-| | Bacon drippings or oil | 1/4 cup | | | Yellow CornMeal| 1 cup| | | All Purpose Flour | 1 cup| | | Salt | 1/2 tsp | | | Baking Power | 1 tsp| | | Baking Soda| 1 tsp| | | Sugar | 1 tbs| optional| | Buttermilk | 1 cup| | | Eggs | 2| slightly beaten | |+--+-| 1. Heat drippings in iron skillet 2. In large mixing bowl, mix cornmeal, flour, salt, baking x, and sugar. 3. Add buttermilk and stir rapidly. 4. Add eggs and mix 5. Add drippings 6. Pour into skillet, cover, and cook on low heat until lightly browned and almost cooked through.
Re: [O] org-cook
That would be better yes, but it looked easier (to me and my limited skills) to access properties through Emacs Lisp than accessing tables. Org experts might have some useful tips. FC On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com wrote: thank you all for the great answers Fletcher, your idea sounds great, but why not use org tables as people suggested for ingredients. ive started using it yesterday and im very pleased, in example: *** COOK Pancakes:American: :PROPERTIES: :Source: TV :Serves: :Time: :Rating: :Fav: :END: | Quantity | scale | Ingredient| Instructions | |--+---+---+--| |8 | | eggs | | |1 | liter | milk | | | 350 | g | butter| melted | | 730 | g | flour | | | 90 | g | powderd sugar | | | 60 | g | baking powder | | | 10 | g | salt | | _*Directions*:_ best Z On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Fletcher Charest fletcher.char...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Since we are on this subject, are you aware of any package that would make an 'automatic' shopping list based on recipes? My idea was to record recipes in this format: * Name of the recipe :tag: 1) Step one. 2) Step two. 3) Step three. :PROPERTIES: :ingredient_1: quantity :ingredient_2: quantity :ingredient_3: quantity :END: Tags could be anything, be mainly things like 'breakfast', 'main course' or 'dessert'. Then, with the point on the headline, (in the file buffer or in the agenda buffer), you could call a function that would add the ingredient to a list, or increment its quantity if the ingredient is already there. Maybe a function to add a random number of recipes (through a filter or not) to the shopping list would be nice too, if you don't know what to cook in a particular week. I'm planning to do this but my Elisp-fu is not great... Any tips of how implementing this? Are lists a good data structure for stocking the shopping list, before dumping it in a buffer? FC On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu wrote: I also use tables, and have one big recipe.org file. I considered ingredient properties, etc., but ended up just text and find recipes by using simple searches. They look like this: * Texas Skillet Corn Bread | Ingredient | Quantity | Instructions| |+--+-| | Bacon drippings or oil | 1/4 cup | | | Yellow CornMeal| 1 cup| | | All Purpose Flour | 1 cup| | | Salt | 1/2 tsp | | | Baking Power | 1 tsp| | | Baking Soda| 1 tsp| | | Sugar | 1 tbs| optional| | Buttermilk | 1 cup| | | Eggs | 2| slightly beaten | |+--+-| 1. Heat drippings in iron skillet 2. In large mixing bowl, mix cornmeal, flour, salt, baking x, and sugar. 3. Add buttermilk and stir rapidly. 4. Add eggs and mix 5. Add drippings 6. Pour into skillet, cover, and cook on low heat until lightly browned and almost cooked through.
Re: [O] org-cook
Hi, This isn't directly related to Org, but I'll mention it anyway since people are discussing quantities and scale for their recipes. Various programming languages have physical units packages that can make working with units quite fun. I use the python Quantities package http://pythonhosted.org/quantities/user/tutorial.html . It lets you define custom quantities such as how many grams of butter are in a stick, etc. A wrapper to this would let you convert Org recipe shopping lists from units of g and teaspoon to units of sticks and fluid oz. -k. On 2014-03-17 at 10:26, Xebar Saram wrote: thank you all for the great answers Fletcher, your idea sounds great, but why not use org tables as people suggested for ingredients. ive started using it yesterday and im very pleased, in example: *** COOK Pancakes:American: :PROPERTIES: :Source: TV :Serves: :Time: :Rating: :Fav: :END: | Quantity | scale | Ingredient| Instructions | |--+---+---+--| |8 | | eggs | | |1 | liter | milk | | | 350 | g | butter| melted | | 730 | g | flour | | | 90 | g | powderd sugar | | | 60 | g | baking powder | | | 10 | g | salt | | _*Directions*:_ best Z On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Fletcher Charest fletcher.char...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, Since we are on this subject, are you aware of any package that would make an 'automatic' shopping list based on recipes? My idea was to record recipes in this format: * Name of the recipe :tag: 1) Step one. 2) Step two. 3) Step three. :PROPERTIES: :ingredient_1: quantity :ingredient_2: quantity :ingredient_3: quantity :END: Tags could be anything, be mainly things like 'breakfast', 'main course' or 'dessert'. Then, with the point on the headline, (in the file buffer or in the agenda buffer), you could call a function that would add the ingredient to a list, or increment its quantity if the ingredient is already there. Maybe a function to add a random number of recipes (through a filter or not) to the shopping list would be nice too, if you don't know what to cook in a particular week. I'm planning to do this but my Elisp-fu is not great... Any tips of how implementing this? Are lists a good data structure for stocking the shopping list, before dumping it in a buffer? FC On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Robert Horn rjh...@alum.mit.edu wrote: I also use tables, and have one big recipe.org file. I considered ingredient properties, etc., but ended up just text and find recipes by using simple searches. They look like this: * Texas Skillet Corn Bread | Ingredient | Quantity | Instructions| |+--+-| | Bacon drippings or oil | 1/4 cup | | | Yellow CornMeal| 1 cup| | | All Purpose Flour | 1 cup| | | Salt | 1/2 tsp | | | Baking Power | 1 tsp| | | Baking Soda| 1 tsp| | | Sugar | 1 tbs| optional| | Buttermilk | 1 cup| | | Eggs | 2| slightly beaten | |+--+-| 1. Heat drippings in iron skillet 2. In large mixing bowl, mix cornmeal, flour, salt, baking x, and sugar. 3. Add buttermilk and stir rapidly. 4. Add eggs and mix 5. Add drippings 6. Pour into skillet, cover, and cook on low heat until lightly browned and almost cooked through.
Re: [O] org-cook
At Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:34:55 -0400, Ken Mankoff wrote: Hi, This isn't directly related to Org, but I'll mention it anyway since people are discussing quantities and scale for their recipes. Various programming languages have physical units packages that can make working with units quite fun. I use the python Quantities package http://pythonhosted.org/quantities/user/tutorial.html . It lets you define custom quantities such as how many grams of butter are in a stick, etc. A wrapper to this would let you convert Org recipe shopping lists from units of g and teaspoon to units of sticks and fluid oz. Hi Ken, emacs calc also handles units. For org-cook [1] I extended the definitions as follows (calc already has definitions for fluid oz): (setq math-additional-units '((pinch tsp / 8 Pinch) (drop tsp / 76 Drop) (dash drop * 6 Dash) (jigger floz * 1.5 Jigger) (gill floz * 4 Gill))) best, Erik 1. https://gitorious.org/org-cook/org-cook/ -- Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/.
Re: [O] org-cook
At Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:24:23 +0200, Xebar Saram wrote: Dear Eric and org users i am a new(ish) org user and an avid cooker. i have started using orgmodeas my recipe notebook and stumbled upon the old org-cook thread. Is there so documentation on this? do you still use it? are there any other ideas/suggestions on using orgmode as a recipe notebook? what i would mainly love is a way to scrape recipes off websites into org Hi Xebar, I still use org to manage my recipes, but I don’t use the org-cook features. It was kind of a proof of concept, and I think it could prove useful, but it turns out I don’t often need to convert between units. I have been trying out the format described in [1]. I used to use a format like: Grate zest from 3 of them. Combine. Add: - 2 tbsp peanut oil - 2 chicken bouillon cubes, crumbled - 5 onions, thinly julienned - salt and pepper But the new one looks like: Grate zest from 3 of them. Combine. Add: | 2 tbsp | peanut oil | | | 2 cubes | chicken bouillon | crumbled | | 5 | onions, | thinly julienned | | | salt and pepper | | I think the table structure should make it easier to manipulate, change units, or create shopping lists. (But I create shopping lists by hand.) One hack I do use is the following function: (defun org-random-element () Choose a random element from the buffer. (interactive) (let ((element-start -1) (count 1)) (while (not (org-first-sibling-p)) (org-goto-sibling t)) (save-excursion (while (org-goto-sibling) (setq count (+ 1 count (org-forward-heading-same-level (random count This chooses a random element from a list of headings. I use this to plan meals. I just keep running the function until I see something that I feel like cooking. Hope that helps! best, Erik 1. http://sachachua.com/blog/2012/06/emacs-org-grocery-lists-batch-cooking/ -- Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/.
Re: [O] org-cook
Thanks so much for the tips Erik i will explore the ingredients in table idea as suggested. do you know perhaps of a way to quick format online recipes to an org table (that is webpage html to org table) or perhaps a way to convert already entered recipes in my org files to tables kind regards Z. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Erik Hetzner e...@e6h.org wrote: At Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:24:23 +0200, Xebar Saram wrote: Dear Eric and org users i am a new(ish) org user and an avid cooker. i have started using orgmodeas my recipe notebook and stumbled upon the old org-cook thread. Is there so documentation on this? do you still use it? are there any other ideas/suggestions on using orgmode as a recipe notebook? what i would mainly love is a way to scrape recipes off websites into org Hi Xebar, I still use org to manage my recipes, but I don't use the org-cook features. It was kind of a proof of concept, and I think it could prove useful, but it turns out I don't often need to convert between units. I have been trying out the format described in [1]. I used to use a format like: Grate zest from 3 of them. Combine. Add: - 2 tbsp peanut oil - 2 chicken bouillon cubes, crumbled - 5 onions, thinly julienned - salt and pepper But the new one looks like: Grate zest from 3 of them. Combine. Add: | 2 tbsp | peanut oil | | | 2 cubes | chicken bouillon | crumbled | | 5 | onions, | thinly julienned | | | salt and pepper | | I think the table structure should make it easier to manipulate, change units, or create shopping lists. (But I create shopping lists by hand.) One hack I do use is the following function: (defun org-random-element () Choose a random element from the buffer. (interactive) (let ((element-start -1) (count 1)) (while (not (org-first-sibling-p)) (org-goto-sibling t)) (save-excursion (while (org-goto-sibling) (setq count (+ 1 count (org-forward-heading-same-level (random count This chooses a random element from a list of headings. I use this to plan meals. I just keep running the function until I see something that I feel like cooking. Hope that helps! best, Erik 1. http://sachachua.com/blog/2012/06/emacs-org-grocery-lists-batch-cooking/ -- Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/.
Re: [O] org-cook
At Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:03:33 +0200, Xebar Saram wrote: Thanks so much for the tips Erik i will explore the ingredients in table idea as suggested. do you know perhaps of a way to quick format online recipes to an org table (that is webpage html to org table) or perhaps a way to convert already entered recipes in my org files to tables Hi Xebar, Sadly, no. I like my recipes in a pretty terse style so when I put a recipe in my org file I end up rewriting a good deal of the content, so any automated translation probably wouldn’t work very well for me. As for the translation to tables, I imagine a keybord macro could do a lot of that work. best, Erik -- Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/.
Re: [O] org-cook
Pandoc can pull a web page, convert to Markdown and then to Org. That doesn't do all you want, but maybe a start. Cheers, Alan On 16 March 2014 05:03, Xebar Saram zelt...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks so much for the tips Erik i will explore the ingredients in table idea as suggested. do you know perhaps of a way to quick format online recipes to an org table (that is webpage html to org table) or perhaps a way to convert already entered recipes in my org files to tables kind regards Z. On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Erik Hetzner e...@e6h.org wrote: At Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:24:23 +0200, Xebar Saram wrote: Dear Eric and org users i am a new(ish) org user and an avid cooker. i have started using orgmodeas my recipe notebook and stumbled upon the old org-cook thread. Is there so documentation on this? do you still use it? are there any other ideas/suggestions on using orgmode as a recipe notebook? what i would mainly love is a way to scrape recipes off websites into org Hi Xebar, I still use org to manage my recipes, but I don't use the org-cook features. It was kind of a proof of concept, and I think it could prove useful, but it turns out I don't often need to convert between units. I have been trying out the format described in [1]. I used to use a format like: Grate zest from 3 of them. Combine. Add: - 2 tbsp peanut oil - 2 chicken bouillon cubes, crumbled - 5 onions, thinly julienned - salt and pepper But the new one looks like: Grate zest from 3 of them. Combine. Add: | 2 tbsp | peanut oil | | | 2 cubes | chicken bouillon | crumbled | | 5 | onions, | thinly julienned | | | salt and pepper | | I think the table structure should make it easier to manipulate, change units, or create shopping lists. (But I create shopping lists by hand.) One hack I do use is the following function: (defun org-random-element () Choose a random element from the buffer. (interactive) (let ((element-start -1) (count 1)) (while (not (org-first-sibling-p)) (org-goto-sibling t)) (save-excursion (while (org-goto-sibling) (setq count (+ 1 count (org-forward-heading-same-level (random count This chooses a random element from a list of headings. I use this to plan meals. I just keep running the function until I see something that I feel like cooking. Hope that helps! best, Erik 1. http://sachachua.com/blog/2012/06/emacs-org-grocery-lists-batch-cooking/ -- Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/. -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: 04 2748 6206
Re: [O] org-cook
I also use tables, and have one big recipe.org file. I considered ingredient properties, etc., but ended up just text and find recipes by using simple searches. They look like this: * Texas Skillet Corn Bread | Ingredient | Quantity | Instructions| |+--+-| | Bacon drippings or oil | 1/4 cup | | | Yellow CornMeal| 1 cup| | | All Purpose Flour | 1 cup| | | Salt | 1/2 tsp | | | Baking Power | 1 tsp| | | Baking Soda| 1 tsp| | | Sugar | 1 tbs| optional| | Buttermilk | 1 cup| | | Eggs | 2| slightly beaten | |+--+-| 1. Heat drippings in iron skillet 2. In large mixing bowl, mix cornmeal, flour, salt, baking x, and sugar. 3. Add buttermilk and stir rapidly. 4. Add eggs and mix 5. Add drippings 6. Pour into skillet, cover, and cook on low heat until lightly browned and almost cooked through.
