Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Hello, Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: One way to do this is to make a drawer. Unfortunately, from what I can tell, within a drawer it is not posible to use org structures like lists. Drawers can contain any structure but drawers and headlines. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: or- mark certain elements (like a list or subheading) as not-for-export? Maybe using the :noexport: tag on a heading? -- cheers, Thorsten
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: One way to do this is to make a drawer. Unfortunately, from what I can tell, within a drawer it is not posible to use org structures like lists. Drawers can contain any structure but drawers and headlines. inside a drawer, when I try to make a lit, org-meta-return doesn't seem to create a new ist item, but instead just indents the next line without also inserting a - . Is this a bug? THanks, Matt
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Hello, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Well, it is to avoid that a new headline would be made inside a drawer, because it would violate Org syntax. But of course, it would be OK to insert an item. What would be a good solution? Maybe we better catch this problem in org-insert-heading? Or maybe not at all? We also do not catch it in src block, for example. So I am fine with removing this condition in org-meta-return. I suggest to be very permissive and allow a user to shoot himself in the foot. The following function implements the same behaviour as before, without the drawer check, but with Elements. (defun org-meta-return (optional arg) Insert a new heading or wrap a region in a table. Calls `org-insert-heading' or `org-table-wrap-region', depending on context. See the individual commands for more information. (interactive P) (org-check-before-invisible-edit 'insert) (or (run-hook-with-args-until-success 'org-metareturn-hook) (let* ((element (org-element-at-point)) (type (org-element-type element))) (when (eq type 'table-row) (setq element (org-element-property :parent element))) (if (and (eq type 'table) (eq (org-element-property :type element) 'org) (= (point) (org-element-property :contents-begin element)) ( (point) (org-element-property :contents-end element))) (call-interactively 'org-table-wrap-region) (call-interactively 'org-insert-heading) Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Correcting myself, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com writes: (defun org-meta-return (optional arg) Insert a new heading or wrap a region in a table. Calls `org-insert-heading' or `org-table-wrap-region', depending on context. See the individual commands for more information. (interactive P) (org-check-before-invisible-edit 'insert) (or (run-hook-with-args-until-success 'org-metareturn-hook) (let* ((element (org-element-at-point)) (type (org-element-type element))) (when (eq type 'table-row) (setq element (org-element-property :parent element))) Oops. I forgot a (setq type 'table) within the `when'. (if (and (eq type 'table) (eq (org-element-property :type element) 'org) (= (point) (org-element-property :contents-begin element)) ( (point) (org-element-property :contents-end element))) (call-interactively 'org-table-wrap-region) (call-interactively 'org-insert-heading)
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: inside a drawer, when I try to make a lit, org-meta-return doesn't seem to create a new ist item, but instead just indents the next line without also inserting a - . Is this a bug? THanks, I think it is a bug, indeed. There's this condition in `org-meta-return', but I'm not sure why it is here. Probably historical reasons. (cond ... ((or (org-at-drawer-p) (org-in-drawer-p) (org-at-property-p)) (newline-and-indent)) ...) Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Hi Nicolas, this looks good to me, please apply it. Thanks - Carsten On 12.9.2013, at 21:41, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Well, it is to avoid that a new headline would be made inside a drawer, because it would violate Org syntax. But of course, it would be OK to insert an item. What would be a good solution? Maybe we better catch this problem in org-insert-heading? Or maybe not at all? We also do not catch it in src block, for example. So I am fine with removing this condition in org-meta-return. I suggest to be very permissive and allow a user to shoot himself in the foot. The following function implements the same behaviour as before, without the drawer check, but with Elements. (defun org-meta-return (optional arg) Insert a new heading or wrap a region in a table. Calls `org-insert-heading' or `org-table-wrap-region', depending on context. See the individual commands for more information. (interactive P) (org-check-before-invisible-edit 'insert) (or (run-hook-with-args-until-success 'org-metareturn-hook) (let* ((element (org-element-at-point)) (type (org-element-type element))) (when (eq type 'table-row) (setq element (org-element-property :parent element))) (if (and (eq type 'table) (eq (org-element-property :type element) 'org) (= (point) (org-element-property :contents-begin element)) ( (point) (org-element-property :contents-end element))) (call-interactively 'org-table-wrap-region) (call-interactively 'org-insert-heading) Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Thorsten Jolitz tjol...@gmail.com wrote: Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: or- mark certain elements (like a list or subheading) as not-for-export? Maybe using the :noexport: tag on a heading? yes, that works! thank you! sorry I missed it in the manual. Matt -- cheers, Thorsten
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Hi Carsten On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it is to avoid that a new headline would be made inside a drawer, because it would violate Org syntax. But of course, it would be OK to insert an item. What would be a good solution? Maybe we better catch this problem in org-insert-heading? Or maybe not at all? We also do not catch it in src block, for example. So I am fine with removing this condition in org-meta-return. What is the plan with my patches here?: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/75367/focus=76221 Michael
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi Nicolas, this looks good to me, please apply it. Done (in master). Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
On 12.9.2013, at 19:49, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Matt Price mopto...@gmail.com writes: inside a drawer, when I try to make a lit, org-meta-return doesn't seem to create a new ist item, but instead just indents the next line without also inserting a - . Is this a bug? THanks, I think it is a bug, indeed. There's this condition in `org-meta-return', but I'm not sure why it is here. Probably historical reasons. Well, it is to avoid that a new headline would be made inside a drawer, because it would violate Org syntax. But of course, it would be OK to insert an item. What would be a good solution? Maybe we better catch this problem in org-insert-heading? Or maybe not at all? We also do not catch it in src block, for example. So I am fine with removing this condition in org-meta-return. - Carsten (cond ... ((or (org-at-drawer-p) (org-in-drawer-p) (org-at-property-p)) (newline-and-indent)) ...) Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Hi Nicolas On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Done (in master). Thank you for this improvement. AFAIU org-in-drawer-p was introduced only for org-meta-return and can now be removed. Michael
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
On 12.9.2013, at 22:35, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi Nicolas, this looks good to me, please apply it. Done (in master). Thank you! - Carsten Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Hello, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com writes: What is the plan with my patches here?: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/75367/focus=76221 I think the approach taken is wrong. But we should definitely keep the tests. Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
On 12.9.2013, at 21:18, Michael Brand michael.ch.br...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Carsten On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it is to avoid that a new headline would be made inside a drawer, because it would violate Org syntax. But of course, it would be OK to insert an item. What would be a good solution? Maybe we better catch this problem in org-insert-heading? Or maybe not at all? We also do not catch it in src block, for example. So I am fine with removing this condition in org-meta-return. What is the plan with my patches here?: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/75367/focus=76221 Thank you for the reminder. I will take a look - these are in my action queue, but I had not gotten to them yet. - Carsten Michael signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [O] org structuresin a drawer? (or some other presentation soution)
Thanks Nicolas! Works great. Matt On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Nicolas Goaziou n.goaz...@gmail.com wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Hi Nicolas, this looks good to me, please apply it. Done (in master). Regards, -- Nicolas Goaziou
