Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
T. V. Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could we perhaps introduce a special property that is used by org-agenda to build the left column? What about: :PROPERTIES: :CATEGORY: general :ARCHIVE: archives:: :END: as a future replacement for #+CATEGORY and #+ARCHIVE? I adhere to this notation. I would also keep the old notation for compliance for 2 or 3 other future versions. Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
On Sep 6, 2007, at 7:34, Bastien wrote: T. V. Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could we perhaps introduce a special property that is used by org-agenda to build the left column? What about: :PROPERTIES: :CATEGORY: general :ARCHIVE: archives:: :END: as a future replacement for #+CATEGORY and #+ARCHIVE? I think this is exactly how it should be - I am only hesitating because many people have come to rely on the other behavior. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
T. V. Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could we perhaps introduce a special property that is used by org-agenda to build the left column? What about: :PROPERTIES: :CATEGORY: general :ARCHIVE: archives:: :END: as a future replacement for #+CATEGORY and #+ARCHIVE? -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
Yes, a minor thing, fixed now. - Carsten On Sep 5, 2007, at 7:19, Bastien wrote: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it will be okay to set whatever property you want through the column view -- and perhaps the column view itself would be available in the agenda ebuffer it is! Argh... I didn't even give it a try, shame on me. But now that I boldly did, C-c C-x C-c in the agenda buffer complained: , | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) | org-get-level-face(2) | org-columns-display-here(((SCHEDULED . 2007-09-08 sam))) | #[(x) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [x goto-line org-columns-display-here] 2]((15 (SCHEDULED . 2007-09-08 sam))) | mapc(#[(x) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [x goto-line org-columns-display-here] 2] ((15 (SCHEDULED . 2007-09-08 sam)) (14 (SCHEDULED . 2007-09-08 sam)) (13 (SCHEDULED . 2007-09-08 sam)) (12 (SCHEDULED . 2007-09-08 sam)) (10 (SCHEDULED . 2007-09-07 ven) (CLOSED . 2007-09-04 mar 18:38)) (9) (5))) | org-agenda-columns() | call-interactively(org-agenda-columns) ` Looks like `org-columns-display-here' is expecting some *real* headings with leading asterisks (See (looking-at \\(\\**\\)\\(\\* \\))). Or did I miss something? -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
I'm perfectly happy to do this with properties rather than categories. But I suggested categories because that is what agenda views are using at present in the left column. Could we perhaps introduce a special property that is used by org-agenda to build the left column? Carsten == Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Carsten On Sep 4, 2007, at 20:00, Bastien wrote: Carsten T. V. Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be nice to have an interactive org-agenda-set-category alongside org-agenda-set-tag in the agenda buffer. I think it doesn't make sense to have `org-agenda-set-category' until we are able to set the category as a property of the headline. For now categories (like the archiving locations) are set by looking *backward* for a line like #+CATEGORY or #+ARCHIVE. When setting the category with `org-agenda-set-category', where should such a line be inserted/modified? Just above the headline? Then storing this headline won't delete the #+CATEGORY line. Just under the headline? Then the headline itself won't be recognized as belonging to that category... See the discussion here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2898 Please anybody stops me if I'm wrong, but I guess the #+ARCHIVE and #+CATEGORY instructions are slowly dying and will be set as properties in the future. Carsten Carsten I have been thinking in this direction as well. The Carsten only problem is that properties are quite invisible Carsten during normal working. Carsten Carsten But I agree that the multiple #+CATEGORY things in a Carsten single file are complex and not very clean, so Carsten properties might be better. Then, in the new world, where such #+CONSTRUCTS are only used to set *file* properties (not headlines properties), Carsten Carsten Yes, I'd like to go there, eventually. Carsten it will be okay to set whatever property you want through the column view -- and perhaps the column view itself would be available in the agenda ebuffer Carsten Carsten it is! Carsten Carsten Carsten Carsten ___ Carsten Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Best Regards, --raman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW:http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM:emacspeak GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP:http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC:irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
T. V. Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be nice to have an interactive org-agenda-set-category alongside org-agenda-set-tag in the agenda buffer. I think it doesn't make sense to have `org-agenda-set-category' until we are able to set the category as a property of the headline. For now categories (like the archiving locations) are set by looking *backward* for a line like #+CATEGORY or #+ARCHIVE. When setting the category with `org-agenda-set-category', where should such a line be inserted/modified? Just above the headline? Then storing this headline won't delete the #+CATEGORY line. Just under the headline? Then the headline itself won't be recognized as belonging to that category... See the discussion here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2898 Please anybody stops me if I'm wrong, but I guess the #+ARCHIVE and #+CATEGORY instructions are slowly dying and will be set as properties in the future. We already (as of 5.07) have these new properties when archiving: :ARCHIVE_TIME: 2007-09-01 sam 05:54 :ARCHIVE_FILE: ~/org/bzg.org :ARCHIVE_CATEGORY: nothot Then, in the new world, where such #+CONSTRUCTS are only used to set *file* properties (not headlines properties), it will be okay to set whatever property you want through the column view -- and perhaps the column view itself would be available in the agenda ebuffer, which would let you have your `org-agenda-set-category'. (Of course #+CATEGORY will remain, but only as a way to categorize files, not headlines.) This would allow one to quickly categorize tasks. Yes, as the column view allows quick selection of *any* property. Later, it might also be nice to implement a function that say rearranges all todo entries of a particular category under a common section. I find myself doing this by hand at present, and Emacs will probably do it better than my fingers. Maybe `org-sort-entries' could group entries that have a property in common. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
It would be nice to have an interactive org-agenda-set-category alongside org-agenda-set-tag in the agenda buffer. +1 Later, it might also be nice to implement a function that say rearranges all todo entries of a particular category under a common section. I find myself doing this by hand at present, and Emacs will probably do it better than my fingers. Also +1. This one is even a must-have for me. Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
Putting it immediately after the headline is how I would implement it. And it would work depending on ones workstyle --- most features of org make sense only in the context of a work style. Bastien == Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bastien T. V. Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be nice to have an interactive org-agenda-set-category alongside org-agenda-set-tag in the agenda buffer. Bastien Bastien I think it doesn't make sense to have Bastien `org-agenda-set-category' until we are able to set Bastien the category as a property of the headline. Bastien Bastien For now categories (like the archiving locations) Bastien are set by looking *backward* for a line like Bastien #+CATEGORY or #+ARCHIVE. Bastien Bastien When setting the category with Bastien `org-agenda-set-category', where should such a line Bastien be inserted/modified? Just above the headline? Then Bastien storing this headline won't delete the #+CATEGORY Bastien line. Just under the headline? Then the headline Bastien itself won't be recognized as belonging to that Bastien category... See the discussion here: Bastien Bastien http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2898 Bastien Bastien Please anybody stops me if I'm wrong, but I guess Bastien the #+ARCHIVE and #+CATEGORY instructions are slowly Bastien dying and will be set as properties in the Bastien future. We already (as of 5.07) have these new Bastien properties when archiving: Bastien Bastien :ARCHIVE_TIME: 2007-09-01 sam 05:54 :ARCHIVE_FILE: Bastien ~/org/bzg.org :ARCHIVE_CATEGORY: nothot Bastien Bastien Then, in the new world, where such #+CONSTRUCTS are Bastien only used to set *file* properties (not headlines Bastien properties), it will be okay to set whatever Bastien property you want through the column view -- and Bastien perhaps the column view itself would be available in Bastien the agenda ebuffer, which would let you have your Bastien `org-agenda-set-category'. Bastien Bastien (Of course #+CATEGORY will remain, but only as a way Bastien to categorize files, not headlines.) Bastien This would allow one to quickly categorize tasks. Bastien Bastien Yes, as the column view allows quick selection of Bastien *any* property. Bastien Later, it might also be nice to implement a function that say rearranges all todo entries of a particular category under a common section. I find myself doing this by hand at present, and Emacs will probably do it better than my fingers. Bastien Bastien Maybe `org-sort-entries' could group entries that Bastien have a property in common. Bastien Bastien -- Bastien Bastien Bastien Bastien ___ Bastien Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Bastien http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Best Regards, --raman Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW:http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/ AIM:emacspeak GTalk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP:http://emacspeak.sf.net/raman/raman-almaden.asc Google: tv+raman IRC:irc://irc.freenode.net/#emacs ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: org-agenda-set-category
On Sep 4, 2007, at 20:00, Bastien wrote: T. V. Raman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be nice to have an interactive org-agenda-set-category alongside org-agenda-set-tag in the agenda buffer. I think it doesn't make sense to have `org-agenda-set-category' until we are able to set the category as a property of the headline. For now categories (like the archiving locations) are set by looking *backward* for a line like #+CATEGORY or #+ARCHIVE. When setting the category with `org-agenda-set-category', where should such a line be inserted/modified? Just above the headline? Then storing this headline won't delete the #+CATEGORY line. Just under the headline? Then the headline itself won't be recognized as belonging to that category... See the discussion here: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/2898 Please anybody stops me if I'm wrong, but I guess the #+ARCHIVE and #+CATEGORY instructions are slowly dying and will be set as properties in the future. I have been thinking in this direction as well. The only problem is that properties are quite invisible during normal working. But I agree that the multiple #+CATEGORY things in a single file are complex and not very clean, so properties might be better. Then, in the new world, where such #+CONSTRUCTS are only used to set *file* properties (not headlines properties), Yes, I'd like to go there, eventually. it will be okay to set whatever property you want through the column view -- and perhaps the column view itself would be available in the agenda ebuffer it is! ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
