Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
My process has gone through some revisions. My current setup is as follows: client-projects.org I keep all paid projects for clients in one big file. I used to keep them in a file for each client until one of them noticed that their name was being pushed to github in my agenda files. studio-projects.org This file holds all internal projects for my studio. Paintings, drawings, administrative tasks, repair and studio related research materials. home-projects.org Just that. Anything related to the house, cars, wife, kid, dogs, etc. notes.org I use this file for random thoughts and information I find online. mind.org How to explain this one? When I find information that I want to act on in the future as RD I throw it into mind.org and give it a todo status. Usually stuff in here pertains to things I don't understand and want to spend time learning. Hence the name. phone.org When on client calls I take notes in the phone file which later gets refiled to their respective places calendar.org This is synced using Doug Hellmann's ical2org python script. I have a cron set to sync it every hour so that my google calendar updates my org file. I have todochiku installed to notify me via growl of appointments. I may go back to having a single org file for each client. Right now I have about 20 projects in that file with long lists and I'm struggling a little with keeping it organized enough that I don't lose track of projects. Beyond this setup, every hour a cron syncs my org files to a private mercurial repository at bitbucket. — Greg ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
My .02Euro-cents worth. I used to have an uber.org file setup, but i found it de-focused my thinking. I'd get sidetracked because a topic caught my attention or looked out of place. I've moved to something a bit more dynamic now, its still under construction though. I wanted to be able to minimize the amount of keystrokes i need to access a particular file, and have something that translated well to a mobile keypad. So my new philosophy is that I've decided to use numbers. They're easy to memorize and can be used in a kind of personal Dewey decimal scheme. Breaking it down, I have a bunch of directories in ~/ | org | the main org directory, under git | | 0_INBOX | a clearing house for file based stuff - firefox downloads to here | | 1_PROJECT | root tree for current project folders | | 2_SOMEDAY | root tree for someday project folders and tickler reminder files| | 5_TOREAD| electronic media i want to read - pdfs text files etc. | | 6_TOLISTEN | podcasts, audiobooks etc, | | 7_TOWATCH | downloaded videos etc. | | 8_REFERENCE | general reference material. | Using git, I sync my ~/org directory across the various machines i use org-mode on, but i leave the [0-9]_ named directories local to the machine. That provides context. I'm still experimenting with keeping the numbered directories under git. Its proving problematic when my sourcecode is also under git too. The 1_PROJECT folder contains a folder per project. Each project folder has a 1+project name.org file in it, which automatically gets picked up and used in the Agenda (see .emacs stuff below for details). That way the agenda is only populated with work i can actually do on that machine. I'm still looking into how to use git and the attachment system to manage project directories as separate git projects... In the sycned ~/org folder i have these files which are included in the agenda. All of these files can be found with two keystrokes, a number then a '+'. | 0+inbox.org| where all my remember stuff is dumped.| | 1+projects.org | personal/portable misc small project container| | 2+someday.org | Someday/Tickler/To-Buy| | 4+calendar.org | Appointments, birthdays (yet to sync with google) | | 8+contacts.org | Contact information | | 9+journal.org | Musings, Writings, rants etc. | And finally i'm using the numbers again, and traffic light style colors for task and project state tracking. | key | color | tag | description | |-++--+-| | 0 | green | DONE | Task done | | 1 | grey | TODO | Heading is a next action that was outlined and might need doing | | 2 | yellow | NEXT | Heading is a next action that needs doing. | | 3 | orange | WAIT | Heading is something i am waiting for | | 4 | yellow | APPT | Heading is an appointment of some kind | Tim. the .emacs code (setq org-default-notes-file (expand-file-name ~/org/0+inbox.org) org-todo-keywords (quote (;; normal workflow need action | no action required (sequence TODO(1!) NEXT(2!/!) WAIT(3@/!) APPT(4@/!) | DONE(0!/@!) DEFERRED(d...@!/!) CANCELED(c...@!/!)) ;; project state indicators (type PROJECT(P!/@!) SOMEDAY(S!/@!) | PROJDONE PROJCANC) )) org-todo-keyword-faces (quote (;; traffic light style task colours (TODO :foreground grey :weight bold) (NEXT :foreground gold :weight bold) (DONE :foreground forest green :weight bold) (WAIT :foreground orange :weight bold) (APPT :foreground gold :weight bold) (CANCELED :foreground indianred :weight bold) ;; project level todo indicators (SOMEDAY :foreground orchid :weight bold) (PROJECT :foreground grey :weight bold) (PROJDONE :foreground forest green :weight bold) (PROJCANC :foreground indianred :weight bold) ))) (setq org-agenda-files ()) ;; use ~/org and search the top level directories in the 1_PROJECT folder (defun toc:add-org-agenda-directories (dir filter) add files matched by filter in directory dir to org-agenda-files list (interactive) (dolist (d2 (file-expand-wildcards (expand-file-name dir))) (if (file-directory-p d2) (dolist (f (directory-files d2 t filter t)) (push f org-agenda-files) ; only include numbered files from org directory (toc:add-org-agenda-directories ~/org [1-9]+.*.org$) ; auto include - 1+project-name files (toc:add-org-agenda-directories ~/1_PROJECT/* 1\+.*.org$) ;; (setq org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :maxlevel . 3))) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use
Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote: Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: FWIW, I've found it quite convenient to rely on filetags to organize my notes. I've written a few functions that allow me to limit my agenda to a subset of agenda files that share a filetag (e.g., emacs or writing). This is a bit quicker than calling agenda commands on all agenda files and then filtering afterward. It also allows for greater focus on a particular area of work. Here are the functions: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#set-agenda-files-by-filetag Hi Matt, this is very interesting! One idea: Instead of setting the value of org-agenda-files, you can also restrict in the following way: (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock) (put 'org-agenda-files 'org-restrict my-file-list) (setq org-agenda-overriding-restriction 'files) The restriction sticks until you remove it with `C-c C_x ' I am not sure this will work better for your case - but maybe it will. Thanks for the tip! That's much more elegant. I find that (org-agenda-restriction-lock) makes subsequent calls to my-org-agenda-files-by-filetag slow, since it refreshes the current agenda. Are there any potential pitfalls if I use (setq org-agenda-restrict nil) instead? I think you might mean org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock? That function does some cleanup which I think you should keep, so maybe just call it like this: (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock 'noupdate) Otherwise, while you are inside your system, (setq org-agenda-restrict nil) is enough - only when you mix the normal subtree/file restriction with you system, you may get funny effects. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote: I find that (org-agenda-restriction-lock) makes subsequent calls to my-org-agenda-files-by-filetag slow, since it refreshes the current agenda. Are there any potential pitfalls if I use (setq org-agenda-restrict nil) instead? I think you might mean org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock? Yes, sorry for the typo. That function does some cleanup which I think you should keep, so maybe just call it like this: (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock 'noupdate) Thanks! This was exactly what I was looking for. Otherwise, while you are inside your system, (setq org-agenda-restrict nil) is enough - only when you mix the normal subtree/file restriction with you system, you may get funny effects. I've put updated versions of the functions on Worg: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#set-agenda-files-by-filetag Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: FWIW, I've found it quite convenient to rely on filetags to organize my notes. I've written a few functions that allow me to limit my agenda to a subset of agenda files that share a filetag (e.g., emacs or writing). This is a bit quicker than calling agenda commands on all agenda files and then filtering afterward. It also allows for greater focus on a particular area of work. Here are the functions: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#set-agenda-files-by-filetag Hi Matt, this is very interesting! One idea: Instead of setting the value of org-agenda-files, you can also restrict in the following way: (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock) (put 'org-agenda-files 'org-restrict my-file-list) (setq org-agenda-overriding-restriction 'files) The restriction sticks until you remove it with `C-c C_x ' I am not sure this will work better for your case - but maybe it will. Thanks for the tip! That's much more elegant. I find that (org-agenda-restriction-lock) makes subsequent calls to my-org-agenda-files-by-filetag slow, since it refreshes the current agenda. Are there any potential pitfalls if I use (setq org-agenda-restrict nil) instead? Thanks, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
Thank you for the replies ;) One thing that I miss, is a way to make org-todo-list where each todo item would, somehow, show its parent until the topmost (or with configurable levels). Is it possible somehow? It would make it more easier to keep projects in only one file (GTD.org for example). I can use follow mode, but this would be nice. Thanks, Marcelo. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.comwrote: On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: Hi Marcelo, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com writes: This is a thread to share your org dir (you have one right) file structure. The title is because I see many of org users prefer having big monolithic files, and I have a slightly different line of thought. I have a handful of central files: e.g, inbox.org, reading.org, computer.org, writing.org, and so on. I've found, however, that on my relatively modest machines org/outline buffers slow down at appr. 12,000+ lines and become more or less unnavigable at appr. 30,000+ lines (especially if they have a deeply nested structure). Whenever a file gets too large, I simply create new files for sub-projects and sub-topics (e.g., perl.org, emacs.org, etc.) and link to them from the main file (e.g., computer.org). I also do a lot of archiving. FWIW, I've found it quite convenient to rely on filetags to organize my notes. I've written a few functions that allow me to limit my agenda to a subset of agenda files that share a filetag (e.g., emacs or writing). This is a bit quicker than calling agenda commands on all agenda files and then filtering afterward. It also allows for greater focus on a particular area of work. Here are the functions: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#set-agenda-files-by-filetag Hi Matt, this is very interesting! One idea: Instead of setting the value of org-agenda-files, you can also restrict in the following way: (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock) (put 'org-agenda-files 'org-restrict my-file-list) (setq org-agenda-overriding-restriction 'files) The restriction sticks until you remove it with `C-c C_x ' I am not sure this will work better for your case - but maybe it will. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
Actually, what I want is to show the path to the item, it arealdy does it when I have the item on focus, but maybe an option to display it on the todo list would be nice :) On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the replies ;) One thing that I miss, is a way to make org-todo-list where each todo item would, somehow, show its parent until the topmost (or with configurable levels). Is it possible somehow? It would make it more easier to keep projects in only one file (GTD.org for example). I can use follow mode, but this would be nice. Thanks, Marcelo. On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: Hi Marcelo, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com writes: This is a thread to share your org dir (you have one right) file structure. The title is because I see many of org users prefer having big monolithic files, and I have a slightly different line of thought. I have a handful of central files: e.g, inbox.org, reading.org, computer.org, writing.org, and so on. I've found, however, that on my relatively modest machines org/outline buffers slow down at appr. 12,000+ lines and become more or less unnavigable at appr. 30,000+ lines (especially if they have a deeply nested structure). Whenever a file gets too large, I simply create new files for sub-projects and sub-topics (e.g., perl.org, emacs.org, etc.) and link to them from the main file (e.g., computer.org). I also do a lot of archiving. FWIW, I've found it quite convenient to rely on filetags to organize my notes. I've written a few functions that allow me to limit my agenda to a subset of agenda files that share a filetag (e.g., emacs or writing). This is a bit quicker than calling agenda commands on all agenda files and then filtering afterward. It also allows for greater focus on a particular area of work. Here are the functions: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#set-agenda-files-by-filetag Hi Matt, this is very interesting! One idea: Instead of setting the value of org-agenda-files, you can also restrict in the following way: (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock) (put 'org-agenda-files 'org-restrict my-file-list) (setq org-agenda-overriding-restriction 'files) The restriction sticks until you remove it with `C-c C_x ' I am not sure this will work better for your case - but maybe it will. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: How you ORGanize yourself? (aka: Why not one file to rule'em all?)
On Apr 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: Hi Marcelo, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa celose...@gmail.com writes: This is a thread to share your org dir (you have one right) file structure. The title is because I see many of org users prefer having big monolithic files, and I have a slightly different line of thought. I have a handful of central files: e.g, inbox.org, reading.org, computer.org, writing.org, and so on. I've found, however, that on my relatively modest machines org/outline buffers slow down at appr. 12,000+ lines and become more or less unnavigable at appr. 30,000+ lines (especially if they have a deeply nested structure). Whenever a file gets too large, I simply create new files for sub-projects and sub-topics (e.g., perl.org, emacs.org, etc.) and link to them from the main file (e.g., computer.org). I also do a lot of archiving. FWIW, I've found it quite convenient to rely on filetags to organize my notes. I've written a few functions that allow me to limit my agenda to a subset of agenda files that share a filetag (e.g., emacs or writing). This is a bit quicker than calling agenda commands on all agenda files and then filtering afterward. It also allows for greater focus on a particular area of work. Here are the functions: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.php#set-agenda-files-by-filetag Hi Matt, this is very interesting! One idea: Instead of setting the value of org-agenda-files, you can also restrict in the following way: (org-agenda-remove-restriction-lock) (put 'org-agenda-files 'org-restrict my-file-list) (setq org-agenda-overriding-restriction 'files) The restriction sticks until you remove it with `C-c C_x ' I am not sure this will work better for your case - but maybe it will. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
