Re: [Orgmode] Re: remember template is slow
Hi Buck, what is the value of the variable org-agenda-files in your setup? Thanks. - Carsten On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Buck Brody wrote: Bernt, Here are the results: org-remember 1 2.497 2.497 org-do-remember 1 2.496 2.496 org-remember-apply-template 1 2.493999 2.493999 org-mode 1 2.259 2.259 org-install-agenda-files-menu 1 2.258 2.258 org-agenda-files 1 2.257 2.257 org-select-remember-template 1 0.229 0.229 org-remember-handler 1 0.001 0.001 org-set-regexps-and-options 1 0.001 0.001 org-remember-finalize 1 0.001 0.001 org-fix-tags-on-the-fly 2 0.001 0.0005 org-delete-backward-char 1 0.001 0.001 org-remember-kill 1 0.001 0.001 org-set-font-lock-defaults1 0.001 0.001 org-hide-wide-columns 2 0.001 0.0005 org-align-tags-here 2 0.001 0.0005 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: Daniel J. Sinder dan...@sindercity.com writes: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding that my remember templates are slow to load. I've got a lag of about three to four seconds. I know that doesn't sound like much, but it's kind of puts a kink in the workflow. I use GNU emacs on Windows. I also have cygwin installed, and I have noticed that the problem doesn't occur when using cygwin. Any ideas? For what it's worth, I've also had this problem for a while now. However, I *do* use emacs w/ cygwin: Windows XP (w/ Cygwin) GNU Emacs 23.2.1 Org-mode version 6.36trans (release_6.36.453.g0cd4) I suspect (for no particular reason other than disdain for Windows) that it is related to poor file system (NTFS) access speeds. For example, maybe org is trying to open several files to look for TODO keywords and/or tags? You may want to try profiling the code as described by Carsten in the following post: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/13182 That may provide additional information to show exactly where the slowdown is taking place. Regards, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: remember template is slow
(~/Documents/org/outline.org) On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Buck, what is the value of the variable org-agenda-files in your setup? Thanks. - Carsten On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Buck Brody wrote: Bernt, Here are the results: org-remember 1 2.497 2.497 org-do-remember 1 2.496 2.496 org-remember-apply-template 1 2.493999 2.493999 org-mode 1 2.259 2.259 org-install-agenda-files-menu 1 2.258 2.258 org-agenda-files 1 2.257 2.257 org-select-remember-template 1 0.229 0.229 org-remember-handler 1 0.001 0.001 org-set-regexps-and-options 1 0.001 0.001 org-remember-finalize 1 0.001 0.001 org-fix-tags-on-the-fly 2 0.001 0.0005 org-delete-backward-char 1 0.001 0.001 org-remember-kill 1 0.001 0.001 org-set-font-lock-defaults 1 0.001 0.001 org-hide-wide-columns 2 0.001 0.0005 org-align-tags-here 2 0.001 0.0005 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: Daniel J. Sinder dan...@sindercity.com writes: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding that my remember templates are slow to load. I've got a lag of about three to four seconds. I know that doesn't sound like much, but it's kind of puts a kink in the workflow. I use GNU emacs on Windows. I also have cygwin installed, and I have noticed that the problem doesn't occur when using cygwin. Any ideas? For what it's worth, I've also had this problem for a while now. However, I *do* use emacs w/ cygwin: Windows XP (w/ Cygwin) GNU Emacs 23.2.1 Org-mode version 6.36trans (release_6.36.453.g0cd4) I suspect (for no particular reason other than disdain for Windows) that it is related to poor file system (NTFS) access speeds. For example, maybe org is trying to open several files to look for TODO keywords and/or tags? You may want to try profiling the code as described by Carsten in the following post: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/13182 That may provide additional information to show exactly where the slowdown is taking place. Regards, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: remember template is slow
On Jul 13, 2010, at 5:21 PM, Buck Brody wrote: (~/Documents/org/outline.org) Well, then I have no ideas what might make this so slow - it seems that this call takes up all of the time. The only further recommendation I would have is to do use uncompiled code with C-u M-x org-reload RET and then do M-x debug-on-entry RET org-agenda-files RET If you then call a remember command, Emacs will stop in the debugger in that function. The you could step through using d and just watch if you see which particular form inside that function eats up the time. - Carsten On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 4:06 AM, Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Buck, what is the value of the variable org-agenda-files in your setup? Thanks. - Carsten On Jul 12, 2010, at 6:18 PM, Buck Brody wrote: Bernt, Here are the results: org-remember 1 2.497 2.497 org-do-remember 1 2.496 2.496 org-remember-apply-template 1 2.493999 2.493999 org-mode 1 2.259 2.259 org-install-agenda-files-menu 1 2.258 2.258 org-agenda-files 1 2.257 2.257 org-select-remember-template 1 0.229 0.229 org-remember-handler 1 0.001 0.001 org-set-regexps-and-options 1 0.001 0.001 org-remember-finalize 1 0.001 0.001 org-fix-tags-on-the-fly 2 0.001 0.0005 org-delete-backward-char 1 0.001 0.001 org-remember-kill 1 0.001 0.001 org-set-font-lock-defaults1 0.001 0.001 org-hide-wide-columns 2 0.001 0.0005 org-align-tags-here 2 0.001 0.0005 On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: Daniel J. Sinder dan...@sindercity.com writes: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding that my remember templates are slow to load. I've got a lag of about three to four seconds. I know that doesn't sound like much, but it's kind of puts a kink in the workflow. I use GNU emacs on Windows. I also have cygwin installed, and I have noticed that the problem doesn't occur when using cygwin. Any ideas? For what it's worth, I've also had this problem for a while now. However, I *do* use emacs w/ cygwin: Windows XP (w/ Cygwin) GNU Emacs 23.2.1 Org-mode version 6.36trans (release_6.36.453.g0cd4) I suspect (for no particular reason other than disdain for Windows) that it is related to poor file system (NTFS) access speeds. For example, maybe org is trying to open several files to look for TODO keywords and/or tags? You may want to try profiling the code as described by Carsten in the following post: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/13182 That may provide additional information to show exactly where the slowdown is taking place. Regards, Bernt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: remember template is slow
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Richard Riley rile...@gmail.com wrote: Daniel J. Sinder dan...@sindercity.com writes: On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Buck Brody buckbr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finding that my remember templates are slow to load. I've got a lag of about three to four seconds. I know that doesn't sound like much, but it's kind of puts a kink What does remember templates are slow to load mean in this context? You mean when you want to enter any new remember item or only the first one? Any delay is normally once only when org is initialised. Another thing to look at which crucified my erc (irc client for emacs) performance was flyspell - I had to remove it from my erc setup. in the workflow. I use GNU emacs on Windows. I also have cygwin installed, and I have noticed that the problem doesn't occur when using cygwin. Any ideas? For what it's worth, I've also had this problem for a while now. However, I *do* use emacs w/ cygwin: Windows XP (w/ Cygwin) GNU Emacs 23.2.1 Org-mode version 6.36trans (release_6.36.453.g0cd4) I suspect (for no particular reason other than disdain for Windows) that it is related to poor file system (NTFS) access speeds. For example, maybe org is trying to open several files to look for TODO keywords and/or tags? What makes you think ntfs would be a bottle neck? Bringing religious wars into help discussions is rarely productive and better kept to the advocacy groups ;) People use org on pretty much all mainstream OSen. Dan Actually, I should have been more explicit -- I use emacs and org *exclusively* on Windows (via cygwin). In fact, for years now, I exclusively use Windows as far as operating systems go. However, not being an OS expert, but just a user, I am frequently frustrated by file access speeds. I have heard (just water-cooler talk) that as the registry gets bloated over time, NTFS file access slows, having something to do with frequent checks of the registry prior to file access. Originally, I didn't feel I understood the issue well enough to claim this as a legitimate reason in this forum. But, seeing your (over)reaction, perhaps I should have explained myself better. Did I bring a religious war into the discussion? No, I most certainly did not. I didn't mention any other OS's, nor make comparisons between OS's. Rather, I suggested a possible cause (slow NTFS file access) for the problem that others and myself are seeing with org on Windows. I followed that with a question about whether org is trying to open several files when calling remember, to see if that would lead to a proper diagnosis of the problem. How did you contribute to the conversation? I didn't bring up OS comparisons -- you did! Now I know org is used on all OSen. Thanks! If you have nothing to contribute to this topic, and can't help solve my problem, then I suggest you reserve your accusations for an appropriate forum. Dan ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
