Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text

2006-09-19 Thread Jan Djärv



Kenichi Handa skrev:

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I've checked in a fix that changes UTF8_STRING to STRING if the data 
doesn't look like UTF8.  However, this might give errors too.  The only 
way to be sure to copy raw binary data correctly is by adding a new type 
(like application-specific/octet-stream).   But if we do that, nobody 
will be able to get data from Emacs, as such a type is not standard and 
unsupported.  Copy-paste with raw binary data is just something most 
apps don't do.


AFAIK, only when TEXT is requested, an selection owner can
choose the returning type from STRING, COMPOUND_TEXT, or
UTF8_STRING.  When UTF8_STRING is requested, we should
return it or return nothing.

And, if Emacs owns a unibyte string, perhaps the right thing
is to make it multibyte according to the current
lang. env. (by string-make-multibyte) at first, then encode
it by utf-8.


What would that do to illegal UTF-8 sequences in the original unibyte string? 
 I.e. will this procedure always produce valid UTF-8 data?


Jan D.


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Re: GNU Emacs 22.0.50 fails to find ä in different ISO Latin encodings

2006-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Kenichi Handa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Peter Dyballa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Launched with -Q

  unify-8859-on-decoding-mode is nil
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode is t

 I start i-search in an Unicode encoded buffer (*Help*). In an ISO  
 8859-1 encoded buffer ä and Ä are found, also in ISO 8859-10, ISO  
 8859-13 (except for Ä), ISO 8859-14, and ISO 8859-16 encoded buffers,  
 but fails in ISO 8859-2, ISO 8859-3, ISO 8859-4, ISO 8859-9, and ISO  
 8859-15. It is similiar to ö and ü, accept that these are not found  
 in the ISO 8859-14 encoded buffer. Changing unify-8859-on-decoding- 
 mode's value makes no difference.

 This is the story I remember.

 A while ago, I proposed to change isearch so that it
 translates characters by translation-table-for-input to
 solve such a problem, but there raised an objection that
 read-char should do that translation.  RMS asked to check if
 such a change to read-char is surely safe or not, but as
 such a check is very difficult and time-consuiming, no one
 took on the job.

 So, this problem is still unfixed.

 I again propose to change isearch.  When we know that
 changing read-char is safe in the future, we can cancel that
 change in isearch.

in the future, namely after the release, we are going to switch to
the unicode2 branch and presumably the problem will go away.  So it
does not sound like we should attempt any complicated fix for Emacs 22
that is not going to stay around, anyway.  If the one problem where
people are complaining is search-and-replace, we should fix that case
for Emacs 22 and that's it for Emacs 22, in my opinion.

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Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text

2006-09-19 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jan Djärv [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  AFAIK, only when TEXT is requested, an selection owner can
  choose the returning type from STRING, COMPOUND_TEXT, or
  UTF8_STRING.  When UTF8_STRING is requested, we should
  return it or return nothing.
  
  And, if Emacs owns a unibyte string, perhaps the right thing
  is to make it multibyte according to the current
  lang. env. (by string-make-multibyte) at first, then encode
  it by utf-8.

 What would that do to illegal UTF-8 sequences in the original unibyte string? 

The original unibyte string won't be in UTF-8 format.  But,
string-make-multibyte will convert it to a correct multibyte
string, thus encoding that multibyte string by UTF-8 will
produce a correct UTF-8 string ... usually.

   I.e. will this procedure always produce valid UTF-8 data?

No.  If a byte in the original unibyte string is not a valid
code point of the primary charset of the current lang. env.,
string-make-unibyte will produce a multibyte string that
contains eight-bit-control or eight-bit-graphic character.
Then, encoding it by UTF-8 will results in incorrect UTF-8
sequence.  So, for safely, we must delete such eight-bit
characters or replace them with U+FFFD (REPLACEMENT
CHARACTER) before encoding by UTF-8.

Or, in such a case, don't return anything (which means Emacs
doesn't hold a requested data).

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RE: mouse-autoselect-window with menu pane

2006-09-19 Thread Marshall, Simon
  Increment of the counter is suspended during the file dialog/menu 
  operation.  And after the operation, the timer fires multiple times 
  continuously until the counter catches up the value that it would be 
  if no file dialog/menu were activated.
 
  Weird.  Suppose `mouse-autoselect-window-select' cancels the timer 
  after it fired the nth time, for some n  2.  There's no reason why 
  the timer was not cancelled when it fired the (n - 1)th time.
  What's even more troubling: There's no reason why the timer shouldn't 
  fire a (n + 1)th time.
 
 My description above is about the count-up example in Simon's message.
 You can observe a similar behavior using the example and M-! sleep 5 RET

Funnily enough, weird was the exact word I used in an email too.  But then
I thought buffering up the timers to run later might be the most logical
thing to do, in the circumstances.  Maybe it makes more sense than not
running the timers at all.  After all, as I'm sure the documentation aught
to say, the timer will be repeated *as soon as possible* after REPEAT
seconds.  The behaviour is consistent at that level.  A very quick simple
test shows the behaviour seems consistent if the function run by the timer
cancels the timer, when the function is run later due to buffering up of
timers, in the scenario you describe.

I found that buffering up of timers also occurs under X, at least for popups
of the sort you get from File  Open Directory...  Under X, timers are
buffered up when the mouse is within the popup (though they are run as you
go in/out of the Filter, Directory, Files and Selection areas).  I'm not
sure why that needs to be so for this particular case though.

You learn something every day.  At least, I do about Emacs.


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Re: mouse-autoselect-window with menu pane

2006-09-19 Thread martin rudalics

 My description above is about the count-up example in Simon's message.
 You can observe a similar behavior using the example and M-! sleep 5
 RET

I see, delayed window autoselection turns itself off in that case.

Anyway, does it make sense that a timer fires more frequently than
prescribed by the REPEAT argument?  If you keep a dialog window open for
a while, timers trying to catch up may keep your system rather busy.



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RE: mouse-autoselect-window with menu pane

2006-09-19 Thread Marshall, Simon
   What did you think of treating the scroll-bars in the same way?  (That
is,
   suspend autoselection if scrolling.)
 
 I could write
 
((or (menu-or-popup-active-p)
 (not (coordinates-in-window-p
   (cons mouse-x-position mouse-y-position) window)))
 ;; A menu / popup dialog is active or the mouse is on the
scroll-bar.
 ;; Suspend autoselection.
 (setq mouse-autoselect-window-suspend t))
 
 in `mouse-autoselect-window-select'. Or did you think of something more
 elaborate?

That looks good.  (You can avoid the cons with (cdr mouse-position)
instead.)

I was thinking that it would also simplify mouse-autoselect-window-cancel,
to avoid the tests specific to scrolling, but now I see maybe that's not the
case.

Ta, Simon.


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Re: mouse-autoselect-window with menu pane

2006-09-19 Thread martin rudalics

 Funnily enough, weird was the exact word I used in an email too.  But then
 I thought buffering up the timers to run later might be the most logical
 thing to do, in the circumstances.  Maybe it makes more sense than not
 running the timers at all.  After all, as I'm sure the documentation aught
 to say, the timer will be repeated *as soon as possible* after REPEAT
 seconds.  The behaviour is consistent at that level.  A very quick simple
 test shows the behaviour seems consistent if the function run by the timer
 cancels the timer, when the function is run later due to buffering up of
 timers, in the scenario you describe.

I admit that the behavior is consistent in each and every sense.  I'm
not sure whether it's reasonable, though.  It's better than not running
the timers at all, admittedly.  Nevertheless, I think that timers should
not run more often than indicated by the repeat argument.

The documentation is misleading in any case.  It tells you that when
Emacs is busy, timers might not run.  It doesn't tell you that timers
may trigger more frequently than requested when Emacs is idle.

 I found that buffering up of timers also occurs under X, at least for popups
 of the sort you get from File  Open Directory...  Under X, timers are
 buffered up when the mouse is within the popup (though they are run as you
 go in/out of the Filter, Directory, Files and Selection areas).  I'm not
 sure why that needs to be so for this particular case though.

I agree that one-shot timers are generally better.  But when I tried to
implement a one-shot timer for delayed autoselection, it occasionally
didn't trigger for some reason.  Maybe I should give it another try.

 You learn something every day.  At least, I do about Emacs.



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Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text

2006-09-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
 I've checked in a fix that changes UTF8_STRING to STRING if the data
 doesn't look like UTF8.  However, this might give errors too.  The only
 way to be sure to copy raw binary data correctly is by adding a new type
 (like application-specific/octet-stream).   But if we do that, nobody
 will be able to get data from Emacs, as such a type is not standard and
 unsupported.  Copy-paste with raw binary data is just something most
 apps don't do.

 AFAIK, only when TEXT is requested, an selection owner can
 choose the returning type from STRING, COMPOUND_TEXT, or
 UTF8_STRING.  When UTF8_STRING is requested, we should
 return it or return nothing.

Also IIRC a perfectly valid utf-8 buffer may contain eight-bit-* chars, use
to keep track of valid unicode chars that have no corresponding character in
emacs-mule.  So the presence of eight-bit-* chars does not imply that the
utf-8 encoded form of the text will contain an invalid utf-8 byte sequence.

 And, if Emacs owns a unibyte string, perhaps the right thing
 is to make it multibyte according to the current
 lang. env. (by string-make-multibyte) at first, then encode
 it by utf-8.

That sounds terribly fragile/buggy.


Stefan


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Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text

2006-09-19 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  AFAIK, only when TEXT is requested, an selection owner can
  choose the returning type from STRING, COMPOUND_TEXT, or
  UTF8_STRING.  When UTF8_STRING is requested, we should
  return it or return nothing.

 Also IIRC a perfectly valid utf-8 buffer may contain eight-bit-* chars, use
 to keep track of valid unicode chars that have no corresponding character in
 emacs-mule.  So the presence of eight-bit-* chars does not imply that the
 utf-8 encoded form of the text will contain an invalid utf-8 byte sequence.

Yes, but such eight-bit-* chars can be detected by checking
`untranslated-utf-8' property.

  And, if Emacs owns a unibyte string, perhaps the right thing
  is to make it multibyte according to the current
  lang. env. (by string-make-multibyte) at first, then encode
  it by utf-8.

 That sounds terribly fragile/buggy.

Then, what do you think Emacs should do in such a case?

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Re: mouse-autoselect-window with menu pane

2006-09-19 Thread martin rudalics

 You learn something every day.  At least, I do about Emacs.

`timer-max-repeats' is the maximum number of times to repeat a timer,
if real time jumps.  Hence, there is an upper bound on the number of
times such timer run.

I think the Elisp manual should mention two things: (1) That a timer can
fire more frequently than indicated by the repeat argument once it has
been delayed.  (2) That there's an upper bound on the number of times a
timer may fire more frequently when it has been delayed.



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Re: mouse-autoselect-window with menu pane

2006-09-19 Thread martin rudalics

 I was thinking that it would also simplify mouse-autoselect-window-cancel,
 to avoid the tests specific to scrolling, but now I see maybe that's not the
 case.

The test in `mouse-autoselect-window-cancel' serves to avoid that the
pre-command hook cancels autoselection while scrolling.  I could test
whether the mouse is on the scroll bar in the pre-command hook.  Do you
think it's worth the trouble?



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Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text

2006-09-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
 Also IIRC a perfectly valid utf-8 buffer may contain eight-bit-* chars, use
 to keep track of valid unicode chars that have no corresponding character in
 emacs-mule.  So the presence of eight-bit-* chars does not imply that the
 utf-8 encoded form of the text will contain an invalid utf-8 byte sequence.

 Yes, but such eight-bit-* chars can be detected by checking
 `untranslated-utf-8' property.

Sure, but the current code doesn't do that.

  And, if Emacs owns a unibyte string, perhaps the right thing
  is to make it multibyte according to the current
  lang. env. (by string-make-multibyte) at first, then encode
  it by utf-8.

 That sounds terribly fragile/buggy.

 Then, what do you think Emacs should do in such a case?

I think we can't know what should be done, so we should strive for
simplicity and try to avoid losing information.  I.e. just return the
unibyte string as-is.


Stefan


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Re: Suggestion for ediff

2006-09-19 Thread Stefan Monnier
 It currently does word-granularity, and does it very well. Character
 granularity would probably be too much work compared to what it would
 provide.

Actually, smerge-mode (take a look at smerge-refine) does
character-granularity and it wasn't more work (quite the opposite,
actually).

It usually works great, but it turns out that character granularity
sometimes fails spectacularly (diff gets confused by some apparent
similarity somewhere and ends up getting completely out of sync).

It'd probably be best to layer the diffs: first do a word-granularity diff
and then do a char-granularity diff within words.  But maybe that'd be
too slow.


Stefan


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Unable to run (Carbon) emacs from the command line

2006-09-19 Thread Chris Rose
This isn't so much a bug, per se, as it is missing functionality.  It  
would be

convenient to be able to run emacs from the command line, as well as
emacsclient.  However, the actual binaries are not on the path  
(obviously) and
when I place a symlink to them in ~/bin and invoke them from there (~/ 
bin/emacs

~/.bashrc, for example) I get this:
Warning: arch-dependent data dir (/Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/ 
MacOS/libexec/emacs/22.0.50/i386-apple-darwin8.7.1/) does not exist.
Warning: arch-independent data dir (/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/ 
Resources/share/emacs/22.0.50/etc/) does not exist.


Subsequent to that, I get no emacs window.

If I invoke the command by typing ~/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/ 
MacOS/Emacs

I get a working window.


In GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (i386-apple-darwin8.7.1)
 of 2006-08-19 on petit.local
X server distributor `Apple Computers', version 10.4.7
configured using `configure '--prefix=/Applications/Emacs.app/ 
Contents/Resources' '--with-carbon' '--without-x' '--libexecdir=/ 
Volumes/Emacs/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/libexec' 'CFLAGS=-arch i386 - 
arch ppc -isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk -DUSE_ATSUI - 
DUSE_MAC_TSM''


Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mac-input-method-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
M-x r e p tab o tab r tab return

Recent messages:
Loading senator...done
Source file `/Users/offline/.emacs.d/modules/cedet-1.0pre3/semantic/ 
semanticdb-find.el' newer than byte-compiled file
Source file `/Users/offline/.emacs.d/modules/cedet-1.0pre3/semantic/ 
semantic-sort.el' newer than byte-compiled file
Source file `/Users/offline/.emacs.d/modules/cedet-1.0pre3/semantic/ 
semantic-ia-sb.el' newer than byte-compiled file

ECB 2.32 uses loaded semantic 2.0pre3, eieio 1.0pre3 and speedbar 1.0.
Loading /Users/offline/.emacs.d/modules/nxml-mode-20041004/rng- 
auto.el (source)...done

Loading semantic-el...done
Loading encoded-kb...done
Making completion list... [2 times]
Loading emacsbug...done


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Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text

2006-09-19 Thread Jan D.
Stefan Monnier skrev:
 Also IIRC a perfectly valid utf-8 buffer may contain eight-bit-* chars, use
 to keep track of valid unicode chars that have no corresponding character in
 emacs-mule.  So the presence of eight-bit-* chars does not imply that the
 utf-8 encoded form of the text will contain an invalid utf-8 byte sequence.
   

   
 Yes, but such eight-bit-* chars can be detected by checking
 `untranslated-utf-8' property.
 

 Sure, but the current code doesn't do that.

   
 And, if Emacs owns a unibyte string, perhaps the right thing
 is to make it multibyte according to the current
 lang. env. (by string-make-multibyte) at first, then encode
 it by utf-8.
 

   
 That sounds terribly fragile/buggy.
   

   
 Then, what do you think Emacs should do in such a case?
 

 I think we can't know what should be done, so we should strive for
 simplicity and try to avoid losing information.  I.e. just return the
 unibyte string as-is.
   

That was the problem the original report was about.  Gtk+-applications
print big warnings.  And there is no agreed upon selection type that
represents just  bytes.

W.r.t the standards, Emacs has two choices, return a valid UTF8-string
or don't return anything at all.  I'm beginning to think the second
option is the best.

Jan D.



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Re: leim: No such file or directory

2006-09-19 Thread Leon
On Mon, 03/06/2006 07:58 +, Kenichi Handa wrote:

 Hi,
 This might be a bug.
 During the last step of installation, ``make install prefix=/tmp/E/emacs
 gives error: 
   /tmp/E/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/leim: No such file or directory

 ``make install will run without error.
 -- 
 Leon
 GNU Emacs 23.0.0.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.3) of
 2006-03-06 on morannon

 Please show us the full output mesage of make.

 At least, in my case, /tmp/E/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/leim
 is created at the toplevel Makfile by the target mkdir.


I'm still seeing this bug in today's emacs-unicode-2 branch.

The procedure I used to compile emacs:

1.
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/packages/emacs --enable-debug
--with-gtk --with-xft --enable-font-backend
--enable-locallisppath=/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
2.
make bootstrap
3.
make install INSTALL_STRIP=-s

emacs still complains leim: No such file or directory

Then I manually mkdir leim to make emacs happy. But I won't be able to
use any input methods. It appears that leim is not in the load-path.

,[ load-path in emacs -Q ]
| load-path is a variable defined in `C source code'.
| Its value is 
| (/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/circe 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/color-theme-el 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/emms /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/epg 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnuplot 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/imaxima 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/maxima 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/misc /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/muse 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/planner 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/psgml 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/remember 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/vm /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/w3m 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/xtla 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/var 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/color-theme-el/themes 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/muse/contrib 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/muse/experimental 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml/char-name 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml/schema 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml/char-name/unicode 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/url 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/textmodes 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/progmodes 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/play 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/obsolete 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/net 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/mh-e 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/mail 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/language 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/international 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/gnus 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/eshell 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/erc 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/emulation 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/emacs-lisp 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/calendar 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/calc)
| 
| 
| Documentation:
| *List of directories to search for files to load.
| Each element is a string (directory name) or nil (try default directory).
| Initialized based on EMACSLOADPATH environment variable, if any,
| otherwise to default specified by file `epaths.h' when Emacs was built.
`

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Re: GNU Emacs 22.0.50 fails to find ä in different ISO Latin encodings

2006-09-19 Thread Richard Stallman
A while ago, I proposed to change isearch so that it
translates characters by translation-table-for-input to
solve such a problem, but there raised an objection that
read-char should do that translation.  RMS asked to check if
such a change to read-char is surely safe or not, but as
such a check is very difficult and time-consuiming, no one
took on the job.

So, this problem is still unfixed.

I again propose to change isearch.

Yes, let's do it that way.  Could you do it now?

David Kastrup wrote:

in the future, namely after the release, we are going to switch to
the unicode2 branch and presumably the problem will go away.

That is true, so we already have our long-term solution.
For now, fixing isearch is sufficient.



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Re: Emacs puts binary junk into the clipboard, marking it as text

2006-09-19 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I think we can't know what should be done, so we should strive for
 simplicity and try to avoid losing information.  I.e. just return the
 unibyte string as-is.

Even if it doesn't conform to ICCCM?  I'll attach the
relevant part of that document.

Jan D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 W.r.t the standards, Emacs has two choices, return a valid UTF8-string
 or don't return anything at all.  I'm beginning to think the second
 option is the best.

This will be useful for checking UTF-8 validity.

(define-ccl-program ccl-check-utf-8
  '(0
((r0 = 1)
 (loop
  (read-if (r1  #x80) (repeat)
((r0 = 0)
 (if (r1  #xC2) (end))
 (read r2)
 (if ((r2  #xC0) != #x80) (end))
 (if (r1  #xE0) ((r0 = 1) (repeat)))
 (read r2)
 (if ((r2  #xC0) != #x80) (end))
 (if (r1  #xF0) ((r0 = 1) (repeat)))
 (read r2)
 (if ((r2  #xC0) != #x80) (end))
 (if (r1  #xF8) ((r0 = 1) (repeat)))
 (read r2)
 (if ((r2  #xC0) != #x80) (end))
 (if (r1 == #xF8) ((r0 = 1) (repeat)))
 (end))
  Check if the input unibyte string is a valid UTF-8 sequence or not.
If it is valid, set the register `r0' to 1, else set it to 0.)

(defun string-utf-8-p (string)
  Return non-nil iff STRING is a unibyte string of valid UTF-8 sequence.
  (if (or (not (stringp string))
  (multibyte-string-p string))
  (error Not a unibyte string: %s string))
  (let ((status (make-vector 9 0)))
(ccl-execute-on-string ccl-check-utf-8 status string)
(= (aref status 0) 1)))


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   Inter-Client Communication Conventions Manual

 Version 2.0.xf86.1
[...]
2.7.  Use of Selection Properties

The names of the properties used in selection data transfer
are chosen by the requestor.  The use of None property
fields in ConvertSelection requests (which request the
selection owner to choose a name) is not permitted by these
conventions.

The selection owner always chooses the type of the property
in the selection data transfer.  Some types have special
semantics assigned by convention, and these are reviewed in
the following sections.

In all cases, a request for conversion to a target should
return either a property of one of the types listed in the
previous table for that target or a property of type INCR
and then a property of one of the listed types.

Certain selection properties may contain resource IDs.  The
selection owner should ensure that the resource is not
destroyed and that its contents are not changed until after
the selection transfer is complete.  Requestors that rely on
the existence or on the proper contents of a resource must
operate on the resource (for example, by copying the con-
tents of a pixmap) before deleting the selection property.

The selection owner will return a list of zero or more items
of the type indicated by the property type.  In general, the
number of items in the list will correspond to the number of
disjoint parts of the selection.  Some targets (for example,
side-effect targets) will be of length zero irrespective of
the number of disjoint selection parts.  In the case of
fixed-size items, the requestor may determine the number of
items by the property size.  Selection property types are
listed in the table below.  For variable-length items such
as text, the separators are also listed.

-
Type Atom   Format   Separator
-
APPLE_PICT8  Self-sizing
ATOM  32 Fixed-size
ATOM_PAIR 32 Fixed-size
BITMAP32 Fixed-size
C_STRING  8  Zero
COLORMAP  32 Fixed-size
COMPOUND_TEXT 8  Zero
DRAWABLE  32 Fixed-size
INCR  32 Fixed-size
INTEGER   32 Fixed-size
PIXEL 32 Fixed-size
PIXMAP32 Fixed-size
SPAN  32 Fixed-size
STRING8  Zero
UTF8_STRING   8  Zero
WINDOW32 Fixed-size
-


It is expected that this table will grow over time.

2.7.1.  TEXT Properties

In general, the encoding for the characters in a text string
property is specified by its type.  It is highly desirable
for there to be a simple, invertible mapping between string
property types and any character set names embedded within
font names in any font naming standard adopted by the Con-
sortium.

The atom TEXT is a polymorphic target.  Requesting conver-
sion into TEXT will convert into whatever encoding is conve-
nient for the owner.  The encoding chosen will be indicated
by the type of the property returned.  TEXT is not defined
as a type; it will never be the returned type from a selec-
tion conversion request.

If the requestor wants the owner to return the contents of
the selection in a specific encoding, it 

emacs conflicts with gnome-settings-daemon

2006-09-19 Thread Zhang Wei
There's a lot of report from chinese Emacs community that Emacs conflicts
with gnome-settings-daemon.

`C-SPC' is widely accepted as the hot-key to activate XIM input method
such as SCIM or fcitx in chinese linux community. But when
gnome-settings-daemon is running, `C-SPC' is swallowed by emacs and
not passed to the system, it's really a big trouble because that mean's
you can't input chinese with XIM in Emacs.

I'm not sure it's a bug of GNOME or Emacs, but only Emacs users observed
this phenomenon, so I report it here.



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Re: leim: No such file or directory

2006-09-19 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 03/06/2006 07:58 +, Kenichi Handa wrote:
 Hi,
 This might be a bug.
 During the last step of installation, ``make install prefix=/tmp/E/emacs
 gives error: 
 /tmp/E/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/leim: No such file or directory
 
 ``make install will run without error.
 -- 
Leon
 GNU Emacs 23.0.0.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.3) of
 2006-03-06 on morannon
 
  Please show us the full output mesage of make.
 
  At least, in my case, /tmp/E/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/leim
  is created at the toplevel Makfile by the target mkdir.

 I'm still seeing this bug in today's emacs-unicode-2 branch.

Do you see the same bug with HEAD?

Anyway, I'd like to repeat this.

Please show us the full output mesage of make command.

 The procedure I used to compile emacs:

 1.
 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/packages/emacs --enable-debug
 --with-gtk --with-xft --enable-font-backend
 --enable-locallisppath=/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 2.
 make bootstrap
 3.
 make install INSTALL_STRIP=-s

 emacs still complains leim: No such file or directory

You wrote that `make install prefix=/tmp/E/emacs' gives
error, but `make install' will run without error..  The
above procedure is the third pattern.  Do you meant that the
first two patterns give the same result as before?

And does emacs still complains really mean that leim: No
such file or directory is printed by Emacs, not by make
command?

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 Then I manually mkdir leim to make emacs happy. But I won't be able to
 use any input methods. It appears that leim is not in the load-path.

 ,[ load-path in emacs -Q ]
 | load-path is a variable defined in `C source code'.
 | Its value is 
 | (/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/bbdb 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/circe 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/color-theme-el 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/emms 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/epg /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/ess 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnuplot 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/imaxima 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/maxima 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/misc 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/muse 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/planner 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/psgml 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/remember 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/vm /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/w3m 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/xtla 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex/var 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/color-theme-el/themes 
 /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/muse/contrib /usr/local/sh!
 are/emacs/site-lisp/muse/experimental 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml/char-name 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml/schema 
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/nxml/char-name/unicode 
/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/url 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/textmodes 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/progmodes 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/play 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/obsolete 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/net 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/mh-e 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/mail 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/language 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/international 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/gnus 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/eshell /!
 usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/erc /usr/local/pack
ages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/emulation 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/emacs-lisp 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/calendar 
/usr/local/packages/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/lisp/calc)
 | 
 | 
 | Documentation:
 | *List of directories to search for files to load.
 | Each element is a string (directory name) or nil (try default directory).
 | Initialized based on EMACSLOADPATH environment variable, if any,
 | otherwise to default specified by file `epaths.h' when Emacs was built.
 `

 -- 
 Leon 

 GNU Emacs 23.0.0.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.3) of
 2006-09-19 on Hawk



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Re: Suggestion for ediff

2006-09-19 Thread Matthieu Moy
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It'd probably be best to layer the diffs: first do a word-granularity diff
 and then do a char-granularity diff within words.

That's my opinion too.

 But maybe that'd be too slow.

This is why I was proposing just looking at the beginning and end of
each word, which is two comparison if the words are actually
different, and linear in the number of common chars otherwise.

-- 
Matthieu


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