Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Rod Webster
Probably a missing dependency Stuart.
Get the source with git clone per the docs.
I did a video a while ago https://youtu.be/Oe4Hfq3G2_A?si=B6_IhIcShkuF77Hk
Sometimes a dependency will not get caught when checking build dependencies.

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On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 at 00:32, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Make will not go past a requirement for A2X. Looks like this is a python
> file.
> I must leave for a while.
> Is there an easy fix?
> thanks
> Stuart
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:44 AM Stuart Stevenson 
> wrote:
>
> > Andy,
> > thank you
> > for now I will download the zip file
> > I will bookmark the contributing link for later
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Stuart
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:08 AM andy pugh  wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 12:56, Stuart Stevenson 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I want to download the source from git. Is there a script of
> >> instructions
> >> > to get me there?
> >>
> >>
> >> If you only want the code, and don't want to make pull requests etc,
> then
> >> just download this zip file:
> >> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/archive/refs/heads/master.zip
> >>
> >> Otherwise, see:
> >>
> https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/code/contributing-to-linuxcnc.html
> >>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Building from source. Was:Re Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
will do

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 10:17 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 15:07, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:
>
> > I have found/installed all the configure dependencies.
> > A2X stops the make process. There is no A2X in synaptic unless it is in a
> > python package and not obvious.
>
>
> It's part of asccidoc, I think.
>
> Try
>
> ./autogen.sh
> ./configure --enable-build-documentation=none
> make
>
> That should bypass all the docs building dependencies.
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Building from source. Was:Re Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 15:07, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> I have found/installed all the configure dependencies.
> A2X stops the make process. There is no A2X in synaptic unless it is in a
> python package and not obvious.


It's part of asccidoc, I think.

Try

./autogen.sh
./configure --enable-build-documentation=none
make

That should bypass all the docs building dependencies.

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Re: [Emc-developers] Building from source. Was:Re Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I have found/installed all the configure dependencies.
A2X stops the make process. There is no A2X in synaptic unless it is in a
python package and not obvious.
I will try the build-dep this evening.
thanks
Stuart


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 9:49 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 14:35, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:
>
> > Make will not go past a requirement for A2X. Looks like this is a python
> > file.
>
>
> There are lots of build-time dependencies.
>
> You _might_ be able to (from the source root, ie below /src/
>
> ./debian/configure
> sudo apt-get build-dep
>
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[Emc-developers] Building from source. Was:Re Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 14:35, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Make will not go past a requirement for A2X. Looks like this is a python
> file.


There are lots of build-time dependencies.

You _might_ be able to (from the source root, ie below /src/

./debian/configure
sudo apt-get build-dep

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Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Make will not go past a requirement for A2X. Looks like this is a python
file.
I must leave for a while.
Is there an easy fix?
thanks
Stuart


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:44 AM Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Andy,
> thank you
> for now I will download the zip file
> I will bookmark the contributing link for later
>
> Sincerely
> Stuart
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:08 AM andy pugh  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 12:56, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:
>>
>> > I want to download the source from git. Is there a script of
>> instructions
>> > to get me there?
>>
>>
>> If you only want the code, and don't want to make pull requests etc, then
>> just download this zip file:
>> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/archive/refs/heads/master.zip
>>
>> Otherwise, see:
>> https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/code/contributing-to-linuxcnc.html
>>
>> --
>> atp
>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
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Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Andy,
thank you
for now I will download the zip file
I will bookmark the contributing link for later

Sincerely
Stuart

On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:08 AM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 12:56, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:
>
> > I want to download the source from git. Is there a script of instructions
> > to get me there?
>
>
> If you only want the code, and don't want to make pull requests etc, then
> just download this zip file:
> https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/archive/refs/heads/master.zip
>
> Otherwise, see:
> https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/code/contributing-to-linuxcnc.html
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 12:56, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> I want to download the source from git. Is there a script of instructions
> to get me there?


If you only want the code, and don't want to make pull requests etc, then
just download this zip file:
https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/archive/refs/heads/master.zip

Otherwise, see:
https://linuxcnc.org/docs/stable/html/code/contributing-to-linuxcnc.html

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Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I want to download the source from git. Is there a script of instructions
to get me there?


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:46 AM Rod Webster  wrote:

> Its my understanding that the version of linuxcnc in Bookworm is dated
> around February 2023 and is well out of date.
> I get frustrated when I see people recommending installing linuxCNC from
> the repos when Andy has a script documented in the 2.9 getting linuxcnc
> docs that gets a current version.
> It would be nice to get it into testing again.
>
> Rod Webster
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>
>
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 20:31, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:
>
> > Andy,
> > I sent you a reply then received a message it needs moderator approval
> > because it is too long.
> > It must be because I included a screen shot to show you the response in
> > synaptic.
> >
> > Synaptic shows linuxcnc is a choice to install.
> >
> > thanks
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:27 AM Stuart Stevenson 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes
> > > Here is my uname -a response for a fresh install last week.
> > > Linux Debian12-Optiplex 6.1.0-18-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian
> > > 6.1.76-1 (2024-02-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> > >
> > > Here is what I see in Synaptic
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Stuart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:15 AM andy pugh  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Is LinuxCNC currently in Debian? I know that we were due for removal
> > from
> > >> Testing, and since then I have heard no further updates from Debian
> > about
> > >> anything at all.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> atp
> > >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> designed
> > >> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
> > >> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> > >>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread gene heskett

On 3/22/24 06:13, andy pugh wrote:

Is LinuxCNC currently in Debian? I know that we were due for removal from
Testing, and since then I have heard no further updates from Debian about
anything at all.


IDK about testing/sid, I'm on stable and 2.9.0 is still there.
personally our inability to get fixes needed into user space for users 
via being in a distro has turned into a PITA. I no longer see it as a 
feather in our collective hat. I see it today as wasting time over 
minutia although the docs are now much improved.


My $.02.

I did get my holes drilled. And in drilling them disclosed that the 2 
linear bearings I chose out of the 4 I ordered, were not made on the 
same machine, I chose to use every third bolthole, which on 1 was about 
59.98 mm while the other was 60.000 mm. I don't have accurate enough 
gauges to say which was correct. Or if either.


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Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Rod Webster
Its my understanding that the version of linuxcnc in Bookworm is dated
around February 2023 and is well out of date.
I get frustrated when I see people recommending installing linuxCNC from
the repos when Andy has a script documented in the 2.9 getting linuxcnc
docs that gets a current version.
It would be nice to get it into testing again.

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On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 20:31, Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Andy,
> I sent you a reply then received a message it needs moderator approval
> because it is too long.
> It must be because I included a screen shot to show you the response in
> synaptic.
>
> Synaptic shows linuxcnc is a choice to install.
>
> thanks
> Stuart
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:27 AM Stuart Stevenson 
> wrote:
>
> > Yes
> > Here is my uname -a response for a fresh install last week.
> > Linux Debian12-Optiplex 6.1.0-18-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian
> > 6.1.76-1 (2024-02-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux
> >
> > Here is what I see in Synaptic
> >
> > regards
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:15 AM andy pugh  wrote:
> >
> >> Is LinuxCNC currently in Debian? I know that we were due for removal
> from
> >> Testing, and since then I have heard no further updates from Debian
> about
> >> anything at all.
> >>
> >> --
> >> atp
> >> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
> >> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
> >> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> >>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Andy,
I sent you a reply then received a message it needs moderator approval
because it is too long.
It must be because I included a screen shot to show you the response in
synaptic.

Synaptic shows linuxcnc is a choice to install.

thanks
Stuart


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:27 AM Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Yes
> Here is my uname -a response for a fresh install last week.
> Linux Debian12-Optiplex 6.1.0-18-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_RT Debian
> 6.1.76-1 (2024-02-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> Here is what I see in Synaptic
>
> regards
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 5:15 AM andy pugh  wrote:
>
>> Is LinuxCNC currently in Debian? I know that we were due for removal from
>> Testing, and since then I have heard no further updates from Debian about
>> anything at all.
>>
>> --
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>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
>> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
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[Emc-developers] Status of LinuxCNC in Debian

2024-03-22 Thread andy pugh
Is LinuxCNC currently in Debian? I know that we were due for removal from
Testing, and since then I have heard no further updates from Debian about
anything at all.

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