Re: Why are CB reports truly useful?

1998-11-22 Thread Lou Aiken
Here are my thoughts on CB Certificates:

I have gotten CB Certificates with the complete test report accepted in 
countries that were NOT members of the CB Scheme. 

After they became readily available I have always requested a CB Certificate 
and 
complete test report before I approved the use of an alternate power supply or 
CD ROM drive. 

If a lab does a decent job of testing the power supply or the CD ROM drive they 
will have produced a test report anyway. So the addition of the certificate is 
not a big hit.

I review the test report and ask that any omissions or mistakes are corrected, 
before I send it anywhere else.  Usually there are some minor problems even 
from 
the very best labs.

Consequently, the alternate power supplies or CD ROM drives are approved for 
use 
in a certified product with very little cost and effort - just send them the 
certificare, the test report and a sample.

If you request the lab to test the laser output of the CD ROM drive during 
fault 
conditions. and find it can't exceed class I limits (per 825) and state that in 
the test report, it will cost very little extra and save the cost of 
translating 
all of the required laser safety messages.

Regards, Lou Aiken

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Ron Hi!

In short, the new CB full Certification Scheme will allow acceptance 
by another CB member of BOTH the test results and construction. 
Under the present scheme, another CB member should accept test 
results but has the right to ask for sample(s) and other pertinent 
information for a construction evaluation.

Based on my experience, CB could be a pain in the neck. Here 
is one example:

Consider a product with an Approved Switching Power Supply. 
Unless the power supply has a CB Test Report of its own (and 
most do not!) the certification agency must include an evaluation of 
the power supply. This means you have to contact the power 
supply manufacturer and ask him to provide all the necessary 
information and/or samples needed by the certification agency in 
order to issue the CB Certificate. Now imagine a manufacturer had 
more than one or altenate power supplies in his product. 

As we all know, most power supplies in the market today are UL 
Recognized and/or CSA Certified and TUV/VDE Approved. 
Therefore, it seems that the best approach to get a CB for a 
product with switching power supply(ies) is to go to UL/CSA/TUV 
or VDE, all who have a record of the power supply safety evaluation 
(including schematics, parts list, etc.). This really is not fair to the 
other CB certifiers who have paid lots of money to get their labs 
accredited under the CB program.

Regards

PETER MERGUERIAN


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Best Regards, Lou Aiken

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EMC Enforcement

1998-11-22 Thread reheller


Can anyone tell me of recent EMC Directive enforcement or what the various
countries of the world are doing to enforce EMC standards?



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