Re: EN equivalent to UL1951

[Paul McCoy]

Fowell,
I will let you determine the cross reference - but the site that lists
standards harmonized to the LVD (and the other new approach directives
such as EMC and Machinery safety) is :

"http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/reflist.html";

It is maintained by DG III

- Paul McCoy -

fwhitfi...@rheintech.com wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I am currently involved with safety testing of a product which I know
> falls under UL1951 - Safety of Electric Plumbing Accessories.
>
> The device also needs to be tested for compliance with the LVD - does
> anyone know what is the equivalent EN standard ?  Also, is there a web
> site where I can find a comprehensive list of LVD standards ?
>
> Thanking you for any responses.
>
> Fowell Whitfield
> Safety Engineer
> Rhein Tech Labs
>
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Russian Scientist seeking US Research partner

[Grasso, Charles (Chaz)]

Greetings all.

Dr Marina Koledintseva is a scientist based in Russia with
a need for a US Research Partner. If you have an interest
or know of anyone else who is interested please let me know. 


Her resume follows:




Marina Y. Koledintseva, Ph.D.
Home address in Russia:  Yaroslavskaya St., 17-9, Moscow , Russia 129366
Tel (home): +7-095-286-43-18; tel (office): +7-095-362-79-58; fax (office):
+7-095-362-89-38
E-mail: ko...@orc.ru

Objective
Employment in R&D Radio Frequency and Microwave Engineering, post-doc
position; teaching.  

Education
December 1990- December 1996
Moscow Power Engineering Institute (Technical University) - Faculty of
Radioengineering, Moscow, Russia
Ph.D. course of studying. Ph.D. degree in Theoretical Bases of
Radioengineering. Research, modeling and design of frequency-selective
ferrite devices for microwave and mm-wave signals parameters measurement.
Title of Ph.D. dissertation: "Frequency-selective power conversion in
mm-waveband by means of hexagonal ferrite resonators".
 September 1978-March 1984
Moscow Power Engineering Institute (Technical University) - Faculty of
Radioengineering, Moscow, Russia
M. Sc. degree with honors in Radiophysics and Electronics.  Research and
modeling in the field of ferrite microwave engineering, signal and noise
processing by ferrite non-linear resonance elements. Title of M.Sc. diploma
thesis: "Conversion of additive sum 'signal plus noise' by ferrite
cross-multiplier". 
  
 Summary of Positions Held and Experience
  September 1996 up till now
Moscow Power Engineering Institute (Technical University) - Laboratory of
Gyromagnetic Electronics and Electrodynamics (Ferrite Lab), Moscow, Russia
Senior Researcher. Research, modeling and design in ferrite microwave and
mm-wave engineering, related problems of EMC/EMI, frequency-selective
methods of detection and measurement of microwave and mm-wave irradiation
parameters, spectrum analysis, microwave filters and absorbers.
  September 1997 -January 1999 
Moscow Power Engineering Institute (Technical University) -Chair of
Technical English - Associate Professor
  September 1995 - September 1996 
Moscow Power Engineering Institute (Technical University) - Patent
Department, Moscow, Russia
Leading Engineer of the Patent Department- expert of inventions in
Electrical, Radio  and  Electronic Engineering 
  October  1983-September 1995
Moscow Power Engineering Institute (Technical University) - Laboratory of
Gyromagnetic Electronics and Electrodynamics (Ferrite Lab), Moscow, Russia
Research Engineer. Research, modeling and design in the field of microwave
ferrite devices, frequency-selective methods of detection and measurement of
microwave and mm-wave irradiation parameters, spectrum analysis.
At the same time took part in educational process: course on Electrodynamics
for 2-nd year students, Theory of Radioengineering Signals and Circuits;
Physics of Ferrites (special course for graduate students), supervising a
number of students M.Sc. diploma works. 
   
Professional Achievements
R&D: methods of frequency-selective power conversion in mm-waveband using
hexagonal ferrite resonator for panorama spectrum measuring devices,
algorithms and computation of their characteristics; methods of analysis of
stable non-linear phenomena in ferrite resonators at their interaction with
electromagnetic field, theoretical and experimental research of
characteristics and application of composite gyromagnetic absorbing
materials for filtering of unwanted ocsillations.
Design: samples of frequency-selective ferrite power and frequency
converters, filters, absorbing coatings; computer programs for computation
of their characteristics.
Took part in 14 industrial projects, the most considerable are the
following:
1.  Investigation of frequency-selective conversion of electromagnetic
signals parameters by gyromagnetic media for ecological purity of microwave
active devices (1994).
2.  Methods and means of spurious irradiation suppression of aircraft
radioelectronic equipment (1996-1997).
3.  Reduction of unwanted radiation produced by microwave ovens by means of
frequency-selective absorbers (1998).
Teaching: courses on Electrodynamics for 2-nd year students, Theory of
Radioengineering Signals and Circuits; Physics of Ferrites (special course
for graduate students), supervising  a number of students M.Sc. diploma
works; Technical English.

  Professional Membership
Member of IEEE (EMC, MTT) since June 1996
Member of working group of the International Bureau on Gyromagnetic
Electronics and Electrodynamics (translator of Proceedings) and interpreter
at a number of Conferences (ICMF'92- Crimea, annual ICCSE'94-98 - Moscow).

   Patents and Publications
53 scientific papers, including 7 inventions, protecte

Re: Just safety - nnot telecomunications

[Chris Healy]

Gary, Kevin, Barry,

A list of the current 'harmonized' declared articles with the applicable
standards for Australia can be found in AS/NZS4417 part 2. The separate New
Zealand list is also in this document. An electronic copy can be obtained from
the Standards Australia www.standards.org.au. for a fee.

I don't have one to hand at the moment, but from memory it includes all mains
plugs. i.e. the list includes plug packs (plug mounted transformers), as well as
any power plug or appliance coupler.

Barry, does the  marking relate to just the flexible cable or the plug as
well?

Barry Esmore wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Most of what you have said is correct except I believe the authorities here
> consider all power cords (except for  marked) to be declared whether
> they are detachable or not. This is how we viewed the situation when I was
> involved in regulatory policing some years back, and I would be interested
> in knowing if the regulators had changed this policy.
>
> Also, other declared items that could be associated with Gary's equipment
> are the Australian plug, appliance connectors (IEC320 type plugs), and the
> majority of detachable power supplies.
>
> Regards
>
> Barry Esmore
> AUS-TICK
>
> Phone: + 61 3 9886 1345
> Fax: + 61 3 9884 7272
> Email: bar...@melbpc.org.au
>
> - Original Message -
> Subject: Just safety - nnot telecomunications
>
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > The ACA (Australian Communications Authority) is only responsible for EMC,
> > Radcoms and Telecommunications. It is not responsible for any other type
> of
> > product.
> >
> > The safety of any product placed on the Australian market is controlled by
> > "trade practices" type legislation and essentially requires that any
> > product meets the appropriate and relevant standards for such products.
> In
> > the case of IT equipment the relevant standard is AS/NZS 3260 (Australia's
> > version of IEC 950).  NOTE:  AS/NZS 3260 is essentially the same as IEC
> 950
> > however compliance with IEC 950 by itself is not considered sufficient in
> > many cases.
> >
> > If you have your product tested for IEC 950 PLUS Australian deviations in
> a
> > CB accredited lab you will have no problems.
> >
> > In terms of electrical safety the Australian State regulatory authorities
> > have listings of "Declared Articles" (used to be known as "Prescribed
> > Articles") and if the device/item is included in the "Declared Articles"
> > listing, formal approval is required with an electrical authority (utility
> > provider) in one of the Australian States (approval in one State is
> > accepted in all other States).  In essence, the only thing at the moment
> > impacting IT equipment on the Declared Articles listing is a detachable
> > power cord.
> >
> > There is not much available on the internet regarding these requirements.
> > You could check the following URL for a very basic few paragraphs on what
> > the State of New South Wales (Sydney is in the State of New South Wales)
> > has available on the internet.  there is no documentation however:
> >
> http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Products.nsf/All+Products+Docs/37A6ECBE54
> > 30E7384A25677C002C04B0?OpenDocument
> >
> > Summary
> > For IT equipment, no approval is required, except for the possibility of a
> > detachable power cord.  An electrical authority in any Australian State
> has
> > the power however to request evidence of compliance with the appropriate
> > electrical safety standard for any product offered for sale in that State.
> > Usually this only occurs when a complaint is made about some equipment or
> > an incident occurs.  It is my recommendation any supplier ensure they are
> > able to provide at short notice (10 days) a test report, by a reputable
> > laboratory, demonstrating compliance with AS/NZS 3260 or IEC 950 plus
> > Australian deviations.
> >
> > Hope this helps.  For more detailed information contact me directly (see
> > bottom of email for contact info).
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Kevin
> > >
> > > I'm pretty frustrated trying to officially determine the safety
> > requirements
> > > for Australia. I can't seem to get a handle on the ITE - but not
> > > telecommunications - stuff. The EMC I have handled but want to confirm
> > what
> > > safety standards I need to meet. Again, I've tried the ACA URL
> > > http://www.aca.gov.au/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
> > >   without success.
> > They
> > > have not responded, but there site seems to address only the EMC and
> > safety
> > > requirements of telecommunications equipment. What is the status on just
> > > good ol' safety for ITE. Anybody have a different URL than the above.
> > > I apologize for asking this question when we just went through it not
> too
> > > long ago, but I took the URL and thought I was home free but I'm unable
> > to
> > > get ACA to respond to the e-mail or find a link that doesn't tie into
> the
> > > telecommunications.
> > > Rat Farts!
>

RE: French Customs demand EC Declaration!

[Kevin Harris]

Sorry I don't have a legal type answer for you, although I agree that it is
against the spirit of the directive. I just though I would expand the
controversy and ask if you know if they are also demanding that declarations
for other directives like the LVD are also included with the shipment?


Best Regards,

Kevin Harris
Manager, Approval Services
Digital Security Controls
1645 Flint Road
Downsview, Ontario
CANADA
M3J 2J6

Tel +1  416 665 8460 Ext. 2378
Fax +1 416 665 7753 

email: harr...@dscltd.com



> -Original Message-
> From: roger.vi...@wwgsolutions.com [SMTP:roger.vi...@wwgsolutions.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 11:34 AM
> To:   emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject:  French Customs demand EC Declaration!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Recently French customs have started to demand that shipments of CE marked
> electronic products are accompanied by a copy of the EC Declaration of
> Conformity to the EMC Directive. Companies are having product held up and
> are
> being fined.
> This seems contrary to the spirit of the single market and is NOT
> envisaged in
> the  EMC Directive, which requires only that the Declaration be held in
> the EU.
> It is required by French Law under "Bulletin Officiel du Douane"  no. 6267
> of 26
> June 1998. This includes a specific law: DA no 98-112 - E/S (P.6112)
> concerning
> EMC of electrical and electronic equipment.
> This includes a section (III - Role du Service) which reckons that any
> importation is the first placing on the (EU) market of that item and
> demands
> that the importer must produce, at the time of importation, the necessary
> documents, including the EC Declaration of Conformity, in order to support
> the
> customs declaration. Production of the document at a later date is not
> authorised.
> 
> Because customs inspections are applied only to goods from outside the EU,
> the
> problem occurs with products imported from US, etc.
> 
> Does anyone have experience of this or believe it contravenes any EU laws?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> 
> Roger Viles
> Group Standards Manager
> Wavetek Wandel Goltermann
> 
> 
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Re: 50 ohm or 75 ohm?

[bma]

Hi Leslie,

You may try a very convenient hand-held RF analyzer, Site Master 
(http://www.global.anritsu.com/products/test/rfmicrowireless/s100_s200a_s300
a.html), to determine whether the cable is 50 or 75 ohm. The price of Site 
Master is much less than Time Domain Reflector.

Barry Ma
-
From: "Leslie Bai" , on 7/13/99 12:36 PM:

Dear members,

Anyone there can share the experience to measure cables' impedance thus to 
identify whether a BNC is a 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable.


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RE: EN equivalent to UL1951

[WOODS, RICHARD]

You can find the harmonized standards at
http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg03/directs/dg3b/newapproa/eurstd/harmstds/index.
html
 


--
From:  fwhitfi...@rheintech.com [SMTP:fwhitfi...@rheintech.com]
Sent:  Wednesday, July 14, 1999 12:29 PM
To:  emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject:  EN equivalent to UL1951


Hi everyone,

I am currently involved with safety testing of a product which I
know 
falls under UL1951 - Safety of Electric Plumbing Accessories.

The device also needs to be tested for compliance with the LVD -
does 
anyone know what is the equivalent EN standard ?  Also, is there a
web 
site where I can find a comprehensive list of LVD standards ?

Thanking you for any responses.

Fowell Whitfield
Safety Engineer
Rhein Tech Labs


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EN equivalent to UL1951

[fwhitfield]

Hi everyone,

I am currently involved with safety testing of a product which I know 
falls under UL1951 - Safety of Electric Plumbing Accessories.

The device also needs to be tested for compliance with the LVD - does 
anyone know what is the equivalent EN standard ?  Also, is there a web 
site where I can find a comprehensive list of LVD standards ?

Thanking you for any responses.

Fowell Whitfield
Safety Engineer
Rhein Tech Labs


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Fw: RE: 50 ohm & 75 ohm

[ed . price]

Posted for "Green, Henry" :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



  From: "Green, Henry" 
  Subject: RE: 50 ohm & 75 ohm
  Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:21:49 -0500 
  To: 'Leslie Bai' , emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org


> I HAVE HAD GREAT SUCCESS USING THE TDR. I FOUND IT QUITE INTERESTING TO NOTE
> THE VARIATION IN IMPEDANCE OF CABLES THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY "THE SAME."  IF
> YOU HAVE ACCESS TO A TIME DOMAIN REFLECTOMETER, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THIS IS
> THE WAY TO GO. IT IS A VERY ACCURATE INSTRUMENT.
> Henry Green
> Gateway Regulatory Compliance
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From:   Leslie Bai [mailto:leslie_...@yahoo.com]
>   Sent:   Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:36 PM
>   To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
>   Subject:50 ohm & 75 ohm
> 
> 
> 
>   Dear members,
> 
>   Anyone there can share the experience to measure
>   cables' impedance thus to identify whether a BNC
>   is a 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable.
> 
>   Thanks,
>   Leslie
>   _
>   Do You Yahoo!?
>   Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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French Customs demand EC Declaration!

[roger . viles]

Recently French customs have started to demand that shipments of CE marked
electronic products are accompanied by a copy of the EC Declaration of
Conformity to the EMC Directive. Companies are having product held up and are
being fined.
This seems contrary to the spirit of the single market and is NOT envisaged in
the  EMC Directive, which requires only that the Declaration be held in the EU.
It is required by French Law under "Bulletin Officiel du Douane"  no. 6267 of 26
June 1998. This includes a specific law: DA no 98-112 - E/S (P.6112) concerning
EMC of electrical and electronic equipment.
This includes a section (III - Role du Service) which reckons that any
importation is the first placing on the (EU) market of that item and demands
that the importer must produce, at the time of importation, the necessary
documents, including the EC Declaration of Conformity, in order to support the
customs declaration. Production of the document at a later date is not
authorised.

Because customs inspections are applied only to goods from outside the EU, the
problem occurs with products imported from US, etc.

Does anyone have experience of this or believe it contravenes any EU laws?

Thanks for any help,

Roger Viles
Group Standards Manager
Wavetek Wandel Goltermann



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R&TTE Directive - Transitional Period

[WOODS, RICHARD]

Every time I read this darn Directive, I find something new or I form a new
opinion. Now I have questions about the transitional period found in Article
18.2.

"Member States shall not impede the placing on the market and putting into
service of apparatus which is in accordance with the provisions in Directive
98/13/EC or rules in force in their territory and was placed on the market
for the first time before this Directive entered into force or at the latest
two years after this Directive entered into force."

Assume that the product is radio equipment not subject to 98/13/EC and is
currently being sold in the EU. This equipment is subject to the "rules in
force" in the member states - the transposition of the EMC Directive and
national radio regulations. Therefore, it would appear that this equipment
may continue to be sold for the next two years without the need of complying
with the R&TTE Directive. Also, new radio equipment not subject to 98/13/EC
but complying with the present national rules could be placed on the market
during the next two years without the need of complying with the R&TTE
Directive.

Am I correct?

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Re: Just safety - nnot telecomunications

[Barry Esmore]

Hi Kevin,

Most of what you have said is correct except I believe the authorities here
consider all power cords (except for  marked) to be declared whether
they are detachable or not. This is how we viewed the situation when I was
involved in regulatory policing some years back, and I would be interested
in knowing if the regulators had changed this policy.

Also, other declared items that could be associated with Gary's equipment
are the Australian plug, appliance connectors (IEC320 type plugs), and the
majority of detachable power supplies.

Regards

Barry Esmore
AUS-TICK

Phone: + 61 3 9886 1345
Fax: + 61 3 9884 7272
Email: bar...@melbpc.org.au

- Original Message -
Subject: Just safety - nnot telecomunications


>
> Gary,
>
> The ACA (Australian Communications Authority) is only responsible for EMC,
> Radcoms and Telecommunications. It is not responsible for any other type
of
> product.
>
> The safety of any product placed on the Australian market is controlled by
> "trade practices" type legislation and essentially requires that any
> product meets the appropriate and relevant standards for such products.
In
> the case of IT equipment the relevant standard is AS/NZS 3260 (Australia's
> version of IEC 950).  NOTE:  AS/NZS 3260 is essentially the same as IEC
950
> however compliance with IEC 950 by itself is not considered sufficient in
> many cases.
>
> If you have your product tested for IEC 950 PLUS Australian deviations in
a
> CB accredited lab you will have no problems.
>
> In terms of electrical safety the Australian State regulatory authorities
> have listings of "Declared Articles" (used to be known as "Prescribed
> Articles") and if the device/item is included in the "Declared Articles"
> listing, formal approval is required with an electrical authority (utility
> provider) in one of the Australian States (approval in one State is
> accepted in all other States).  In essence, the only thing at the moment
> impacting IT equipment on the Declared Articles listing is a detachable
> power cord.
>
> There is not much available on the internet regarding these requirements.
> You could check the following URL for a very basic few paragraphs on what
> the State of New South Wales (Sydney is in the State of New South Wales)
> has available on the internet.  there is no documentation however:
>
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Products.nsf/All+Products+Docs/37A6ECBE54
> 30E7384A25677C002C04B0?OpenDocument
>
> Summary
> For IT equipment, no approval is required, except for the possibility of a
> detachable power cord.  An electrical authority in any Australian State
has
> the power however to request evidence of compliance with the appropriate
> electrical safety standard for any product offered for sale in that State.
> Usually this only occurs when a complaint is made about some equipment or
> an incident occurs.  It is my recommendation any supplier ensure they are
> able to provide at short notice (10 days) a test report, by a reputable
> laboratory, demonstrating compliance with AS/NZS 3260 or IEC 950 plus
> Australian deviations.
>
> Hope this helps.  For more detailed information contact me directly (see
> bottom of email for contact info).
>
> Best regards,
> Kevin
> >
> > I'm pretty frustrated trying to officially determine the safety
> requirements
> > for Australia. I can't seem to get a handle on the ITE - but not
> > telecommunications - stuff. The EMC I have handled but want to confirm
> what
> > safety standards I need to meet. Again, I've tried the ACA URL
> > http://www.aca.gov.au/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
> >   without success.
> They
> > have not responded, but there site seems to address only the EMC and
> safety
> > requirements of telecommunications equipment. What is the status on just
> > good ol' safety for ITE. Anybody have a different URL than the above.
> > I apologize for asking this question when we just went through it not
too
> > long ago, but I took the URL and thought I was home free but I'm unable
> to
> > get ACA to respond to the e-mail or find a link that doesn't tie into
the
> > telecommunications.
> > Rat Farts!
> > Thanks
> > Gary
> >
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Phantom Power for NT

[Nezam Najafi]

To All:

I have ISDN card that runs on +/- 2.5 Vdc. This is on my  U- interface
board. I need to connect it the Net work Terminal. I have a  36 Vdc to 90
Vdc from exchange. How would I modify the design so that I can superimpose
the phantom power and still be in compliance with CTR and FCC.  I appreciate
your advice and assistance in advance.

Regards,
Nezam Najafi
Sr. Compliance Engineer
Madge Networks,

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RE: Just safety - nnot telecomunications

[WOODS, RICHARD]

I concur with Kevin.

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Sent:  Wednesday, July 14, 1999 4:10 AM
To:  Gary McInturff
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Subject:  Just safety - nnot telecomunications


Gary,

The ACA (Australian Communications Authority) is only responsible
for EMC,
Radcoms and Telecommunications. It is not responsible for any other
type of
product.

The safety of any product placed on the Australian market is
controlled by
"trade practices" type legislation and essentially requires that any
product meets the appropriate and relevant standards for such
products.  In
the case of IT equipment the relevant standard is AS/NZS 3260
(Australia's
version of IEC 950).  NOTE:  AS/NZS 3260 is essentially the same as
IEC 950
however compliance with IEC 950 by itself is not considered
sufficient in
many cases.  

If you have your product tested for IEC 950 PLUS Australian
deviations in a
CB accredited lab you will have no problems.

In terms of electrical safety the Australian State regulatory
authorities
have listings of "Declared Articles" (used to be known as
"Prescribed
Articles") and if the device/item is included in the "Declared
Articles"
listing, formal approval is required with an electrical authority
(utility
provider) in one of the Australian States (approval in one State is
accepted in all other States).  In essence, the only thing at the
moment
impacting IT equipment on the Declared Articles listing is a
detachable
power cord.

There is not much available on the internet regarding these
requirements. 
You could check the following URL for a very basic few paragraphs on
what
the State of New South Wales (Sydney is in the State of New South
Wales)
has available on the internet.  there is no documentation however:

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Products.nsf/All+Products+Docs/37A6ECBE54
30E7384A25677C002C04B0?OpenDocument

Summary
For IT equipment, no approval is required, except for the
possibility of a
detachable power cord.  An electrical authority in any Australian
State has
the power however to request evidence of compliance with the
appropriate
electrical safety standard for any product offered for sale in that
State. 
Usually this only occurs when a complaint is made about some
equipment or
an incident occurs.  It is my recommendation any supplier ensure
they are
able to provide at short notice (10 days) a test report, by a
reputable
laboratory, demonstrating compliance with AS/NZS 3260 or IEC 950
plus
Australian deviations.

Hope this helps.  For more detailed information contact me directly
(see
bottom of email for contact info).

Best regards,
Kevin
> 
> I'm pretty frustrated trying to officially determine the safety
requirements
> for Australia. I can't seem to get a handle on the ITE - but not
> telecommunications - stuff. The EMC I have handled but want to
confirm
what
> safety standards I need to meet. Again, I've tried the ACA URL
> http://www.aca.gov.au/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
>   without
success.
They
> have not responded, but there site seems to address only the EMC
and
safety
> requirements of telecommunications equipment. What is the status
on just
> good ol' safety for ITE. Anybody have a different URL than the
above.
> I apologize for asking this question when we just went through it
not too
> long ago, but I took the URL and thought I was home free but I'm
unable
to
> get ACA to respond to the e-mail or find a link that doesn't tie
into the
> telecommunications.
> Rat Farts!
> Thanks
> Gary
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Re: Just safety - nnot telecomunications

[Barry Esmore]

Hi Gary,

Give me some info on your products and I will see if I can help. I
specialise in Australian electrical equipment safety issues and regulations.

Regards

Barry Esmore
AUS-TICK
(The Australian Compliance Professionals)

Phone: + 61 3 9886 1345
Fax: + 61 3 9884 7272
Email: bar...@melbpc.org.au


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Subject: Just safety - nnot telecomunications


>
> I'm pretty frustrated trying to officially determine the safety
requirements
> for Australia. I can't seem to get a handle on the ITE - but not
> telecommunications - stuff. The EMC I have handled but want to confirm
what
> safety standards I need to meet. Again, I've tried the ACA URL
> http://www.aca.gov.au/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
>   without success.
They
> have not responded, but there site seems to address only the EMC and
safety
> requirements of telecommunications equipment. What is the status on just
> good ol' safety for ITE. Anybody have a different URL than the above.
> I apologize for asking this question when we just went through it not too
> long ago, but I took the URL and thought I was home free but I'm unable to
> get ACA to respond to the e-mail or find a link that doesn't tie into the
> telecommunications.
> Rat Farts!
> Thanks
> Gary
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Just safety - nnot telecomunications

[Kevin Richardson]

Gary,

The ACA (Australian Communications Authority) is only responsible for EMC,
Radcoms and Telecommunications. It is not responsible for any other type of
product.

The safety of any product placed on the Australian market is controlled by
"trade practices" type legislation and essentially requires that any
product meets the appropriate and relevant standards for such products.  In
the case of IT equipment the relevant standard is AS/NZS 3260 (Australia's
version of IEC 950).  NOTE:  AS/NZS 3260 is essentially the same as IEC 950
however compliance with IEC 950 by itself is not considered sufficient in
many cases.  

If you have your product tested for IEC 950 PLUS Australian deviations in a
CB accredited lab you will have no problems.

In terms of electrical safety the Australian State regulatory authorities
have listings of "Declared Articles" (used to be known as "Prescribed
Articles") and if the device/item is included in the "Declared Articles"
listing, formal approval is required with an electrical authority (utility
provider) in one of the Australian States (approval in one State is
accepted in all other States).  In essence, the only thing at the moment
impacting IT equipment on the Declared Articles listing is a detachable
power cord.

There is not much available on the internet regarding these requirements. 
You could check the following URL for a very basic few paragraphs on what
the State of New South Wales (Sydney is in the State of New South Wales)
has available on the internet.  there is no documentation however:
http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Products.nsf/All+Products+Docs/37A6ECBE54
30E7384A25677C002C04B0?OpenDocument

Summary
For IT equipment, no approval is required, except for the possibility of a
detachable power cord.  An electrical authority in any Australian State has
the power however to request evidence of compliance with the appropriate
electrical safety standard for any product offered for sale in that State. 
Usually this only occurs when a complaint is made about some equipment or
an incident occurs.  It is my recommendation any supplier ensure they are
able to provide at short notice (10 days) a test report, by a reputable
laboratory, demonstrating compliance with AS/NZS 3260 or IEC 950 plus
Australian deviations.

Hope this helps.  For more detailed information contact me directly (see
bottom of email for contact info).

Best regards,
Kevin
> 
> I'm pretty frustrated trying to officially determine the safety
requirements
> for Australia. I can't seem to get a handle on the ITE - but not
> telecommunications - stuff. The EMC I have handled but want to confirm
what
> safety standards I need to meet. Again, I've tried the ACA URL
> http://www.aca.gov.au/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
>   without success.
They
> have not responded, but there site seems to address only the EMC and
safety
> requirements of telecommunications equipment. What is the status on just
> good ol' safety for ITE. Anybody have a different URL than the above.
> I apologize for asking this question when we just went through it not too
> long ago, but I took the URL and thought I was home free but I'm unable
to
> get ACA to respond to the e-mail or find a link that doesn't tie into the
> telecommunications.
> Rat Farts!
> Thanks
> Gary
> 
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Kevin Richardson

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FW: Computer Monitor Magnetic Immunity

[Arun Kaore]

General Immunity thresholds for computer monitors:

30-450Hz: Approx. 160-170 dBpT
450Hz-15kHz: 100 dBpT

I have generally seen good immunity at frequencies in excess of 15kHz. 

Tests performed with MIL-461C RS01 loop/audio oscillater+audio amplifier.

Monitor most sensitive when disturbance is applied 5 cm away from the outer
shell near the yoke coil.


Arun Kaore
EMC Engineer

ADI Limited
Systems Group
Test & Evaluation Centre
Forrester Road, St Marys 2760
P O Box: 315, St Marys NSW 1790

Tel: 61 2 9673 8375
Fax: 61 2 9673 8321
Email: kao...@sg.adi-limited.com.au  

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Sent:   Tuesday, 13 July, 1999 11:03
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Subject:Computer Monitor Magnetic Immunity


Hi Listmembers!
Does anyone have an estimate of the magnetic field immunity levels of recent
production computer monitors? What levels, in Gauss or Tesla, do monitors
actually start to show disturbance? And at what levels could you expect a
typical monitor to be not just annoying, but virtually useless?
Thanks,
Ed

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Re: 50 ohm & 75 ohm

[Cortland Richmond]

Leslie Bai wrote:

Anyone there can share the experience to measure
cables' impedance thus to identify whether a BNC
is a 50 ohm or 75 ohm cable.

The SECOND simplest way I've found (short of using an SWR meter and a 1:1.5
transformer)_ is as follows:

If you have an impedance bridge operating in the high MHz region, you need
only measure a quarter wave of coax -- as evidenced by inverting the open
circuit at its far end, at any convenient frequency, then measure the
capacitive reactance at half the first frequency. Alternatively measure a
shorted quarter wave stub -- as  evidenced by an infinite or very high
impedance reading -- and then look for the inductive  reactance at half the
frequency.

The reactance of a 45 degree line is equal to its characteristic impedance,
with  the sign depending on the termination.

This will not only tell you "higher or lower" but will identify odd ball
coax which might mess up a whole test. Don't ask how I learned THAT. (grin)

Good luck!

Cortland

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RE: 50 ohm & 75 ohm

[Qu Pingyu]

Bai:

If you have a Network Analyzer, just connect the cable to the two port of
the analyzer through a BNC-SMA adpator. Measure the reflection coefficient
(S11 or S22) and the 75 ohm cable should have a larger reflection. That's my
expensive way of doing it.:-)

Alternatively, if the two cables are made of the same material, maybe you
can check the ratio of outer conductor radius vs. that of inner conductor.
The one with larger ratio should have high impedance.

Regards

Qu Pingyu

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> 
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Just safety - nnot telecomunications

[Gary McInturff]

I'm pretty frustrated trying to officially determine the safety requirements
for Australia. I can't seem to get a handle on the ITE - but not
telecommunications - stuff. The EMC I have handled but want to confirm what
safety standards I need to meet. Again, I've tried the ACA URL
http://www.aca.gov.au/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm
  without success. They
have not responded, but there site seems to address only the EMC and safety
requirements of telecommunications equipment. What is the status on just
good ol' safety for ITE. Anybody have a different URL than the above.
I apologize for asking this question when we just went through it not too
long ago, but I took the URL and thought I was home free but I'm unable to
get ACA to respond to the e-mail or find a link that doesn't tie into the
telecommunications.
Rat Farts!
Thanks
Gary

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