RE: [Fwd: ESD Gun recommendations?]
Dan - we have a Keytek Model MZ-15/EC Mini-zap ESD simulator with contact discharge tip Model MZTPC-2. We use it for pre-compliance testing per EN61000-4-2. We have been very pleased with its performance. We have Keytek perform the calibration and maintenance of the simulator and it never has been in need of repair. You should be able to locate a local rep for a demo and I would think they would provide a loaner for a few days. Good Luck on your search! -Original Message- From: David Heald [mailto:davehe...@mediaone.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:37 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; daniel.bi...@gefanuc.com Subject: [Fwd: ESD Gun recommendations?] Forwarded for Daniel Biggs . Please include Daniel in any replies. -Dave Heald Original Message Subject: ESD Gun recommendations? List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:04:23 -0400 From: "Biggs, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA)" To: "'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'" Greetings, Looking to replace our old ESD guns and would appreciate any recommendations on who makes a good product and what features are most important. Also, when it comes to EMC test equipment which companies offer better services and technical support. Thanks, DB ___ GE Fanuc Automation Daniel Biggs Test Engineer Hardware Design Services ph: 804-978-6946 fax: 804-978-5588 e-mail: daniel.bi...@cho.ge.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall," --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
[Fwd: ESD Gun recommendations?]
Forwarded for Daniel Biggs . Please include Daniel in any replies. -Dave Heald Original Message Subject: ESD Gun recommendations? List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:04:23 -0400 From: "Biggs, Daniel (IndSys, GEFanuc, NA)" To: "'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'" Greetings, Looking to replace our old ESD guns and would appreciate any recommendations on who makes a good product and what features are most important. Also, when it comes to EMC test equipment which companies offer better services and technical support. Thanks, DB ___ GE Fanuc Automation Daniel Biggs Test Engineer Hardware Design Services ph: 804-978-6946 fax: 804-978-5588 e-mail: daniel.bi...@cho.ge.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
Re: HP 8546A calibration facility
We have our 8546A calibrated at Excalibur Engineering. Excalibur Engineering 11 Musick Irvine, Ca. 92618-1638 949-454-6603 949-454-6642 fax exsa...@excaliburengineering.com Regards, Randall Flinders EMC Engineer Emulex Corporation - We Network Storage 3535 Harbor Blvd. Costa Mesa, Ca. 92626 (714) 513-8012 voice (714) 513-8265 fax randall.flind...@emulex.com<>
RE: HP 8546A calibration facility
>-Original Message- >From: Sykes, Bob [mailto:bob.sy...@marconi.com] >Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:02 AM >To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' >Subject: HP 8546A calibration facility > > > > >Worldly Compliance Experts, > >Can anyone recommend a calibration facility (besides Agilent) >in the U.S. >that can >accommodate a HP 8546A EMI receiver? > >adTHANKSvance, > >-Bob Bob: Try Harlan Labs, in San Diego, at: http://www.harlanlabs.com Ed Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military & Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
Re: Production Line Test Requirements - Medical Devices
<200105212113.oaa14...@epgc196.sdd.hp.com>, Rich Nute inimitably wrote: >Yes, for one strand. No, for five strands. I agree with what you say. In Europe, the PEC within equipment may be 16/0.2, so the possibility of the connection being reduced to one or two strands is, in one sense, 1 in 560, while for your 36 strand wire it is very much lower. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. Phone +44 (0)1268 747839 Fax +44 (0)1268 777124. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Why not call a vertically- applied manulo-pedally-operated quasi-planar chernozem-penetrating and excavating implement a SPADE? --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
HP 8546A calibration facility
Worldly Compliance Experts, Can anyone recommend a calibration facility (besides Agilent) in the U.S. that can accommodate a HP 8546A EMI receiver? adTHANKSvance, -Bob --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
RE: Production Line Test Requirements - Medical Devices
Dick, This is the situation as I understand it. Please note that a few years ago I did factory inspections for TUV Rheinland, so I'm speaking from a position of some knowledge (though a bit outdated). UL includes its production test requirements in its standards. It traditionally has only required a check of earth continuity under low current conditions. The European test labs work on the basis of extracting production tests from the standards. They require these tests to be performed as a condition of using their mark on the product. It is the test lab's decision which production tests are to be performed and it is not mandated by any standard. Traditionally, the European test labs require the earth continuity test to be carried out at high current conditions, as in the standard. The logic behind this is that if there is a fault to earth, it will cause a high current which may cause any weak links in the earth circuit to heat up and possibly char and increase in resistance or even burn out completely. (We've all seen charring around sockets). Thus this test is considered more effective in identifying loose connections, etc. due to production mistakes than the UL test, which might miss them. Presumably if you are selling your medical product in the EU, you have a Notified Body (unless your product is Group 1). You should agree your production test plan with them. Be aware that they may insist on the high current earth continuity test. Good Luck, Jon Griver Medson Ltd > -Original Message- > From: Dick Grobner [mailto:dick.grob...@medgraph.com] > Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 18:23 > To: 'Jon Griver' > Cc: IEEE EMC-PSTC E-Mail Forum (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Production Line Test Requirements - Medical Devices > > > Jon > Thx for the info, however, I re-checked the two known US > standards (UL2601, > Appendix D - Manufacturer's Responsibilities, Construction Considerations > and Requirements for Factory Tests) (NFPA 99, Grounding Circuit > Continuity - > Measurement of Resistance). UL defines "Production Line Grounding > Continuity > Test Equipment" as: Any suitable continuity indication device (such as an > ohmmeter, a battery and buzzer combination, or the like) may be used to > determine compliance with Grounding Continuity Test requirements. The NFPA > std is even less definitive on this matter. > EN60601-1, Appendix B - "Testing During Manufacture and/or Installation", > Not Used. See rational to sub-clause 4.1. Which states - Tests > described in > this standard are type tests. > > I checked all of the amendments including EN60601-1 for medical > systems, and > I do not see anything changing this. > > My questions remains, where does it state to use the 10-25Amp, 50 > or 60Hz @ > 6Volt for 5 seconds test? Is this a carry over from another EN > standard? Why > wouldn't a simple continuity tests as defined by UL be appropriate from > equipment coming off of the production line (assuring that the protective > earth circuit in intake)? > > Appreciate your feedback Jon! & thanks again. > > Does anyone else on this forum have any input - would appreciate it. > --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. Visit our web site at: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/ To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org Dave Healddavehe...@mediaone.net For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.rcic.com/ click on "Virtual Conference Hall,"
