RE: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed
To avoid any confusion regarding my earlier reply on this topic I feel it best I clarify that I did not mean anyone could sign a DoC. Only someone within the Australian supplier's organization/company or in some circumstances, the overseas manufacturer's organization/company may sign a DoC. What I did mean however was that the Australian regulations requiring compliance with C-Tick did not require the person to hold any particular position within the organization however explanatory information concerning these regulations suggested the person should hold a senior position in the organization/company. Best regards, Kevin Richardson Stanimore Pty Limited Compliance Solutions for Technology (Legislation/Regulations/Standards/Australian Agent Services) Ph: 02-4329-4070 (Int'l: +61-2-4329-4070) Fax: 02-4328-5639 (Int'l: +61-2-4328-5639) Mobile: 04-1224-1620 (Int'l: +61-4-1224-1620) Email: kevin.richard...@stanimore.com URL: www.stanimore.com This material (this message and the information contained in all attachments to this message) is confidential and/or privileged information and is intended only for the addressee/s named above. Any unauthorised dissemination, copying, use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee/s named above is prohibited. If you receive this material in error, please notify Stanimore Pty Limited and destroy all copies electronic and hardcopy) of this message and all attachments immediately. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of emcp...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 5:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed Hello, I had to send this message again because it was rejected by the server. I'm wondering who should sign the CE and C-Tick DoC. Does it have to be someone in upper management? Is there any written requirement? Thanks, Tim Pierce This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed
In terms of a DoC for C-Tick compliance, the regulations do not specify who must sign however the Information to Supplier type guides advise it should be a senior person in the company or organization. In reality, suppliers of C-Tick products are quite often the importers of the product and have limited, if any, technical knowledge. The regulations requiring marking with the C-Tick essentially require the person who signs the DoC be the person who has satisfied themselves the product does indeed comply with C-tick requirements (i.e. obtained the necessary documentation and reviewed it to satisfy themselves the product complies). My advice is generally similar to John Woodgate's, i.e. the person signing a DoC with respect to C-Tick compliance should be someone who is not necessarily very technical but someone who: - has satisfied themselves the product complies by personally reviewing the compliance documentation required by C-tick regulations etc; and - who is senior enough to have control over the supply of the product Best regards, Kevin Richardson Stanimore Pty Limited Compliance Solutions for Technology (Legislation/Regulations/Standards/Australian Agent Services) Ph: 02-4329-4070 (Int'l: +61-2-4329-4070) Fax: 02-4328-5639 (Int'l: +61-2-4328-5639) Mobile: 04-1224-1620 (Int'l: +61-4-1224-1620) Email: kevin.richard...@stanimore.com URL: www.stanimore.com This material (this message and the information contained in all attachments to this message) is confidential and/or privileged information and is intended only for the addressee/s named above. Any unauthorised dissemination, copying, use of or reliance upon this material by persons or entities other than the addressee/s named above is prohibited. If you receive this material in error, please notify Stanimore Pty Limited and destroy all copies electronic and hardcopy) of this message and all attachments immediately. From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of emcp...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 5:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed Hello, I had to send this message again because it was rejected by the server. I'm wondering who should sign the CE and C-Tick DoC. Does it have to be someone in upper management? Is there any written requirement? Thanks, Tim Pierce This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed
Tim: You may find answers to your questions in the “Guidelines on the Application of Council Directive 89/336/EEC of 3 May 1989 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to electromagnetic compatibility”. http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/ lectr_equipment/emc/guides/emcguide.htm EUROPA - Enterprise Industry - Electrical Equipment - EMC ... GUIDELINES ON THE Application of THE Directive 89/336/EEC ... See also the Frequently Asked Questions on the EMC Directive 89/336/EEC. EU Guide ... http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/emcguide.htm Best regards, Samuel Lifshutz Manager QA MRV Communications Inc. 20520 Nordhoff Street Chatsworth, CA 91311, USA Tel: (818) 772-6235 x265 Fax: (818) 772-0576 email: slifsh...@mrv.com Registered by QMI to ISO 9001:2000 _ From: Chris Maxwell [mailto:chris.maxw...@nettest.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:10 PM To: emcp...@aol.com; EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: RE: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed Tim, It’s my understanding that the DOC must be signed by an “Officer of the Company”…someone who has authority to sign legal documents. In my time here, we have bounced this responsibility around a little. We have used various people, such as: the CEO, General Manager and/or Vice President of Engineering. Best regards, Chris Maxwell Design Engineer Nettest _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of emcp...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed Hello, I had to send this message again because it was rejected by the server. I'm wondering who should sign the CE and C-Tick DoC. Does it have to be someone in upper management? Is there any written requirement? Thanks, Tim Pierce This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed
John Woodgate wrote: ** A company can authorise anyone to sign legal documents that are not subject to very specific legal restrictions on signatories (mostly under company and taxation laws). 'Officer of the company' could be anyone so designated by the management. Many CEOs and General Managers wouldn't have enough technical knowledge to know when not to sign. *** John, Good point. Personally, I liked it when the Vice President of Engineering signed. He usually had tracked the project development and had visibility of any EMC/Safety issues that we had come up against. When I have a General Manager or CEO sign, I usually give them the opportunity to review the documentation (which they probably don't) along with a short (page or two) memorandum describing the compliance status of the product. This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed
Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com wrote (in 39f7060a00b5e946b516261c077441c06df...@utexch1w.gnnettest.com) about 'Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed', on Tue, 9 Aug 2005: It?s my understanding that the DOC must be signed by an ?Officer of the Company?someone who has authority to sign legal documents. In my time here, we have bounced this responsibility around a little. We have used various people, such as: the CEO, General Manager and/or Vice President of Engineering. A company can authorise anyone to sign legal documents that are not subject to very specific legal restrictions on signatories (mostly under company and taxation laws). 'Officer of the company' could be anyone so designated by the management. Many CEOs and General Managers wouldn't have enough technical knowledge to know when not to sign. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. Deadlines are 90% of deadliness. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: Who should sign DoCs
emcp...@aol.com wrote (in 129.62a8be55.302a6...@aol.com) about 'Who should sign DoCs', on Tue, 9 Aug 2005: I'm wondering who should sign the CE and C-Tick DoC. Does it have to be someone in upper management? Is there any written requirement? There is no requirement for the CE Declaration of Conformity in strict legal terms, which is the only type of requirement that would be binding. My advice is that the signatory should be someone technical enough to know whether to sign and senior enough to refuse to do so, if necessary. -- Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. Deadlines are 90% of deadliness. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed
Tim, It’s my understanding that the DOC must be signed by an “Officer of the Company”…someone who has authority to sign legal documents. In my time here, we have bounced this responsibility around a little. We have used various people, such as: the CEO, General Manager and/or Vice President of Engineering. Best regards, Chris Maxwell Design Engineer Nettest _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of emcp...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed Hello, I had to send this message again because it was rejected by the server. I'm wondering who should sign the CE and C-Tick DoC. Does it have to be someone in upper management? Is there any written requirement? Thanks, Tim Pierce This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Declaration of Conformity - Clarification Needed
Hello, I had to send this message again because it was rejected by the server. I'm wondering who should sign the CE and C-Tick DoC. Does it have to be someone in upper management? Is there any written requirement? Thanks, Tim Pierce This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Who should sign DoCs
Hello, I'm wondering who should sign the CE and C-Tick DoC. Does it have to be someone in upper management? Is there any written requirement? Thanks, Tim Pierce This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
RE: VCCI cost
http://www.vcci.or.jp/vcci_e/general/nyukai/nyukai.html The link below might be of interest. http://www.vcci.or.jp/vcci_e/general/nyukai/nyukai.html Regards, Kaz From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of McInturff Gary Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:59 PM To: EMC-PSTC (E-mail) Subject: VCCI cost Anybody have the current manufacturers (not test house fee’s) for VCCI membership – small company. I’m remembering $2k or something of that nature. Large companies pay more – theoretically based on the number of test reports submitted. Thanks Gary This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
VCCI cost
Anybody have the current manufacturers (not test house fee’s) for VCCI membership – small company. I’m remembering $2k or something of that nature. Large companies pay more – theoretically based on the number of test reports submitted. Thanks Gary This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: High temperature coaxial cable
Cable noise? Don't forget that all these esoteric materials, especially the high voltage types, demonstrate a pretty active triboelectric effect. I assume the spectrum drops a lot with the distributed capacitance, don't know how much. When the cable is first manufactured, it's pretty tight, so quiet. But when the cable ages and loosens up, it can start to become noisy. If you need low noise cable, you may wish to include such performance in your purchasing spec. - Robert - On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 08:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Bob Richards b...@toprudder.com wrote: Ian, You did not mention frequency range, but RG393 is rated to 5kv (with proper connectors) and 200C. It is good up to 1 or 2 GHz. http://www.pasternack.com/Search/SearchResults.asp?partNum=rg393%2FuRecNo=0 Pasternack also has some special high-voltage C connectors, part num PE4950, and SHV connectors, which are rated for high voltages. The normal type N connectors are not rated for high voltages. Bob Richards, NCT --- Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@bocedwards.com wrote: All Can anyone recommend a source coaxial cable rated to at least 4kV and operating temperature of at least 150C? Ian Gordon This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
Re: High temperature coaxial cable
Ian, You did not mention frequency range, but RG393 is rated to 5kv (with proper connectors) and 200C. It is good up to 1 or 2 GHz. http://www.pasternack.com/Search/SearchResults.asp?partNum=rg393%2FuRecNo=0 Pasternack also has some special high-voltage C connectors, part num PE4950, and SHV connectors, which are rated for high voltages. The normal type N connectors are not rated for high voltages. Bob Richards, NCT --- Gordon,Ian ian.gor...@bocedwards.com wrote: All Can anyone recommend a source coaxial cable rated to at least 4kV and operating temperature of at least 150C? Ian Gordon This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc
High temperature coaxial cable
All Can anyone recommend a source coaxial cable rated to at least 4kV and operating temperature of at least 150C? Ian Gordon *** The information contained in this email and any attachments may be confidential and is provided solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, or use of this e-mail, its attachments or any information contained therein is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments. No responsibility is accepted for any virus or defect that might arise from opening this e-mail or attachments, whether or not it has been checked by anti-virus software. This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list.Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org Instructions: http://listserv.ieee.org/listserv/request/user-guide.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@ptcnh.net Mike Cantwellmcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc