Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)
John's right, Google knows where it is, and I can't help wondering what it finds that it shouldn't. I imagine Google's crawled searches are passed through very sophisticated filtering algorithms that divert certain discovered content to a top secret office buried deeply and covertly somewhere within the Googleverse. Such content could be ultra secrect, revolutionary or illegal and what happens to it thereafter, who knows? Tony... (the Conspiricy Theorist (not really)) - Original Message - From: John Woodgate Sent: 04/10/14 04:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Google knows where it is. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:260:0013: 0059:en:PDF -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to! unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)
Why obviously, it then gets posted to YouTube. Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything) John's right, Google knows where it is, and I can't help wondering what it finds that it shouldn't. I imagine Google's crawled searches are passed through very sophisticated filtering algorithms that divert certain discovered content to a top secret office buried deeply and covertly somewhere within the Googleverse. Such content could be ultra secrect, revolutionary or illegal and what happens to it thereafter, who knows? Tony... (the Conspiricy Theorist (not really)) - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)
Actually neither, and/or both. Sometimes the search engine just 'knows' where it is at, and sometimes the engine has previously parsed and indexed the data with contextual implications. Search engines use both retrospective searches AND prospective searches. The various search engines are important compliance engineering tools. Most have much more available than the browser interface. Note Google's Python API for prospective searching. Throw in the python stuff for NLTK and BeautifulSoup and your seat at the foot of the emperor's throne is assured. Brian Janitorial Services for the Chief Conspirator From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything) John's right, Google knows where it is, and I can't help wondering what it finds that it shouldn't. I imagine Google's crawled searches are passed through very sophisticated filtering algorithms that divert certain discovered content to a top secret office buried deeply and covertly somewhere within the Googleverse. Such content could be ultra secrect, revolutionary or illegal and what happens to it thereafter, who knows? Tony... (the Conspiricy Theorist (not really)) - Original Message - From: John Woodgate Sent: 04/10/14 04:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Google knows where it is. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:260:0013: 0059:en:PDF -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)
Anthony: 1) If you have top secret stuff on your web server in the first place, that's actually the problem and not what Google's spiders can find, and 2) That's what the robots.txt file is for. All you need to do is exclude them from those pages you don't want crawled for any reason. 3) Reference point 1. Doug On 11-Apr-2014, at 18:55, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com wrote: John's right, Google knows where it is, and I can't help wondering what it finds that it shouldn't. I imagine Google's crawled searches are passed through very sophisticated filtering algorithms that divert certain discovered content to a top secret office buried deeply and covertly somewhere within the Googleverse. Such content could be ultra secrect, revolutionary or illegal and what happens to it thereafter, who knows? Tony... (the Conspiricy Theorist (not really)) - Original Message - From: John Woodgate Sent: 04/10/14 04:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Google knows where it is. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:260:0013: 0059:en:PDF -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)
Subjects of the emperor have been known to write crawlers specifically intended to ignore robots.txt. The 'Robot Exclusion Standard' is voluntary; that is, not a normative requirement. Brian From: Douglas Nix [mailto:d...@mac.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:28 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything) Anthony: 1) If you have top secret stuff on your web server in the first place, that's actually the problem and not what Google's spiders can find, and 2) That's what the robots.txt file is for. All you need to do is exclude them from those pages you don't want crawled for any reason. 3) Reference point 1. Doug On 11-Apr-2014, at 18:55, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com wrote: John's right, Google knows where it is, and I can't help wondering what it finds that it shouldn't. I imagine Google's crawled searches are passed through very sophisticated filtering algorithms that divert certain discovered content to a top secret office buried deeply and covertly somewhere within the Googleverse. Such content could be ultra secrect, revolutionary or illegal and what happens to it thereafter, who knows? Tony... (the Conspiricy Theorist (not really)) - Original Message - From: John Woodgate Sent: 04/10/14 04:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Google knows where it is. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:260:0013: 0059:en:PDF -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] Greece and HAR cable
Visiting the EEPCA web site to look up some ENEC certification information, I did a little extra browsing and came across this statement: Due to the recent changes that happened in Greece, ELOT is obliged to abandon the maintenance of its issued HAR licences. http://www.eepca.eu/page.php?p=6 Following the link on the page to a HAR member list shows Greece is absent. Does anyone know the back story? Regards, Peter Tarver This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not an intended recipient, you may not review, use, copy, disclose or distribute this message. If you received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] Greece and HAR cable
In message d2f93a7b9e22324ebde70a2ea4e72...@mail.gmail.com, dated Fri, 11 Apr 2014, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: Visiting the EEPCA web site to look up some ENEC certification information, I did a little extra browsing and came across this statement: Due to the recent changes that happened in Greece, ELOT is obliged to abandon the maintenance of its issued HAR licences. http://www.eepca.eu/page.php?p=6 Following the link on the page to a HAR member list shows Greece is absent. Does anyone know the back story? It will probably never be told, but one can read between the lines of recent pronouncements by the European Commission, with no names mentioned. Fake cables have been coming into the EU via southern routes, and some test houses haven't be quite as demanding as they should have been. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Nondum ex silvis sumus John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
